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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Patrick McAneny
 

Scott, We will definately hook up. I would be quite satisfied with the 54 ,I think its my favorite model. We will dinghy into Back Creek while there.
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

It'd be great if we could all anchor out together somewhere. Sounds like Back Creek, if you arrive early enough, is the best bet. Otherwise at least we should all try to meet up.

You will likely find me sitting in the cockpit of the A50 typing on my phone, furiously calculating how I can make it work, financially. Just kidding, after the effort I put into making my A54 just like I like it, I wouldn't give her up for anything. :)
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Scott SV Tengah
 

It'd be great if we could all anchor out together somewhere. Sounds like Back Creek, if you arrive early enough, is the best bet. Otherwise at least we should all try to meet up.

You will likely find me sitting in the cockpit of the A50 typing on my phone, furiously calculating how I can make it work, financially. Just kidding, after the effort I put into making my A54 just like I like it, I wouldn't give her up for anything. :)
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Insurance in Europe

Theo s/v Paloma
 

I'm happy with Novamar. Their prices are competitive. I've used them for three boats, including the one in the S. Pacific. I've had no claims though, ever.

Theo.
s/v Paloma
Amel 50 #18
Re: Insurance in Europe

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Matt,
    I think your post is a good example of what Bill Rouse was talking about recently in admonishing negative reviews on this forum. To be "warned to avoid" a vendor without any specifics and without a full story is, frankly, not very meaningful. "War stories", especially about insurance claims, are notoriously one sided.  And the many replies you got lauding Pantaenius USA points that out.  But then we all listen to our mates; we just need to judge when to add that grain of salt.
    There have been many factual posts here about Pantaenius USA's hurricane zone requirements in the Caribbean and Florida being virtually impossible to meet and their breathtaking premium quotes for that region essentially taking them out of that market.
    At the same time there also have been posts about their excellent coverage and very competitive rates for US boats cruising Europe, which I experienced.
    No claims in 32 years, btw, suggests that will be your continuing experience and other replies to your post praising Pantaenius USA should alleviate any concerns about Pantaenius USA's claim service.
Good luck with your shopping.
Craig - SN68 Sangaris
Re: Insurance in Europe

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

Yes, my experience with Pantenius is also good.

Quick respond clear , clear conditions of insurance

Fair prices are not cheap .

and in the damages settlement we had a damage 10 years ago and fair .

I don't trust anyone else


Grüße Elja Röllinghoff

SM Balu 222


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Re: Insurance in Europe

Patrick McAneny
 

Gary, I concur ,I have had nothing but positive experiences with Pantaenius . Unfortunately I have had now  three claims ,a lightning strike two years ago,they paid every penny ,replaced all the electronics on the boat . Representing me now against Dream Yacht Charters from damage they did to my boat in the Caribbean last winter. They already paid me for all the damages up front, and are pursuing reimbursement from DYC . I got that check within a week of submitting the estimate. Two weeks ago my wind transducer was damaged by lightning ,another claim and they were responsive to that as well ,although we are waiting for the estimate . Can't compare rates ,but mine seems reasonable .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells <gary@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 7:52 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance in Europe

I guess I've not had the same experience with Pantaenius as some others but for us they have been easy to work with and very responsive to our requests to change cruising grounds. 

I've been fortunate to not have a claim so I can't speak to that end but I have read (here, I think) that their post-lightning-strike service was very good.

I know all I have to do is write an email to them and within a day or two I get a new quote for our cruising grounds when we go from U.S. to Med. to Caribbean (which is now a very pricey market).

Without wanting to start a negative discourse, I would not be a person to warn you against them but rather to give a good in depth look at their merits and the scope of coverage they have.

So far, so good with them and the people I have dealt with have all be friendly and accommodating .. even when I "oopsee'd" and sailed out of my coverage area unknowingly :). 

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Halifax, NS

Re: Insurance in Europe

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

Yes, my experience with Pantenius is also good.

Quick respond clear , clear conditions of insurance

Fair prices are not cheap .

and in the damages settlement we had a damage 10 years ago and fair .

I don't trust anyone else


Grüße Elja Röllinghoff

SM Balu 222

Kalamata Greece 


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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike , Yes a few years ago they stopped people from anchoring in front of the Academy for security reasons,shame we have anchored there for forty years. The general anchorage is just out another 150 yards ,you need to cruise around a bit to find 15 -20' ft ,otherwise its mostly about 30'.
Pat
SM #123
Sassafras River

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

I got chased out of the Academy Anchorage area by the Dockmaster a few weeks ago. Apparently theiy are discouraging anchoring right off the bulkhead. Wound up anchoring at Back Creek where there’s opportunities both outside and inside the creek.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay


On Aug 23, 2019, at 7:59 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Patrick,

They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area.

Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Patrick McAneny
 

Scoot, If you arrive early days before the show you may well find a place to anchor or a mooring in Back Creek. It is a tight area not much swing room and gets crowded early. Because of that and we don't arrive early we anchor outside. It can get a bit rolly in certain  weather ,but we are generally comfortable and we like watching the activity out there ,dinghy racing ,etc.See ya there!
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Patrick,

They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area.

Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Insurance in Europe

Gary Wells
 

I guess I've not had the same experience with Pantaenius as some others but for us they have been easy to work with and very responsive to our requests to change cruising grounds. 

I've been fortunate to not have a claim so I can't speak to that end but I have read (here, I think) that their post-lightning-strike service was very good.

I know all I have to do is write an email to them and within a day or two I get a new quote for our cruising grounds when we go from U.S. to Med. to Caribbean (which is now a very pricey market).

Without wanting to start a negative discourse, I would not be a person to warn you against them but rather to give a good in depth look at their merits and the scope of coverage they have.

So far, so good with them and the people I have dealt with have all be friendly and accommodating .. even when I "oopsee'd" and sailed out of my coverage area unknowingly :). 

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Halifax, NS
Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Gary Wells
 

We'll be at the show for sure!
.
.
I need to.double/triple check but I think I got a.setmofmseals.from.Maude last time that were 29mm ID instead of 30.  Might be  the that tightening up seal.on the shaft helps a bit with preventing water ingress.

I'll look at my spares later today.

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Halifax, NS
Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake

karkauai
 

Definitely!  Are you having work done in Trinidad?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 23, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:

Hope to see you all as Kim and I make our way North from Trinidad in November. It's been a bit since St. Michaels. Tune into the Coconut Telegraph when you get settled in and we will connect from there. 
All the best 
Chuck and Kim 
Joy 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:00 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ah, too bad.  Now you’ve got us thinking of going to Bermuda again.  Iris hasn’t been since she was a kid.   Hmmm, we may get back to you in this.
K&I

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Kent, I will be heading to Bermuda first so that cuts me out sorry.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 5:25:32 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Heading S from the Chesapeake
 
Alan/Mark,
We are also heading S in Nov, first to St Augustine, then meeting friends in Bahamas for a few weeks, then working our way down to Martinique.  Are you going outside straight to Martinique?  If staying W of the Stream we might head out with you.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

I had a bit of corrosion at the mast base but not bad. I replaced the pads from Maud, expensive little suckers, $280 for the pair. I don’t think I really needed to do that as there is not really anyway for the water to get between the mast base and the pad. Those drain holes you see are the top side of a plate welded into the base of the mast so that there is no way for water to go anywhere else but out those holes..
I will be leaving as soon as the rugby World Cup is over which I think the final is Nov 2nd so absolutely let’s keep in touch, probably head down in company.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 11:21:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig
 

Thanks Alan.

Sounds like pulling the mast was a good solution for you and glad to hear it went well.

We are primarily focused on replacing the 20 year old standing rigging, but several “experts” have recommended pulling the mast to check the base. I wonder if that is more of a concern with a keel stepped mast as the base has greater potential for sitting in sea water and is not as readily observed on a regular basis. Did you find any issues at the base/deck interface? Is there a pad there that needed replacement? And as you said, repairs up and down the mast are certainly easier when it is horizontal and bench height.

I was able to locate Olivier’s instructions on the old Yahoo BB and attached them here for reference within the current bulletin board.

We also will depart the Chesapeake, on or around November 3, bound for Martinique. Let’s stay in touch.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Mike, yes we have just finished with the rerig. We pulled the masts which for us was the best way for us to go. We have only had the boat less than a year so we had no idea what condition all the parts were in, jib furler, gearboxes, motors etc so having the masts down allowed us to pull everything off in a much easier way. We were also able to remove old wires from each mast and renew, changed out the steaming light, paint touch up corroded areas, servicing the manual furler gearboxes mizzen and main were accomplished much easier. I felt there was no time pressure if something went wrong.
I watched a boat in Ft Lauderdale get there rigging replaced in the slip and if that's all you are doing then I would have no concerns doing that but for us we had a lot of extras to do.
One of the main reasons we did the rigging now and not wait till Martinique was we were getting a lot of mast pumping and could not get rid of it. Once the riggers had tuned it the pumping was even worse and they had no solution to it even after I had shown them the tuning write up so I loosened everything off and followed the directions explicitly and what do you know no more pumping. I'm sure it's not tight enough but I hope to bump into some SM's shortly and check tension with them and we still plan on heading direct to Martinique in Nov.
Acmo rigging was just as advertised, perfect.
Price for the crane was about $600 each way and all the riggers did was remove and replace the masts and do their tune.
Hope this helps
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis

From: main@... <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 12:47:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Alan.
We are looking at rerigging in the next few months with one vendor wanting to pull the mast and another planning to do it in place. Had not considered doing it ourselves. Have you completed your rerigging and have you any advice from your experience?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay 

Re: Insurance in Europe

karkauai
 

We’ve had the Jackline policy through IMIS, recently bought out by Gowrie group. I’ve dealt with the same contact there since before Gowrie took over. We haven’t had a claim, and haven’t asked about coverage in the Med, but they have been easy to deal with in every regard. Iris now insures her 100 year old wooden catboat with them as well.

It won’t hurt to contact them...
Rachel Sloan
(410) 364-7707
rachel.imis@gowrie.com

Good luck, stay safe, and have fun with Speed of Life. And don’t sign off as S.O.L. ;-)>

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Matt,

I used Y Yachts when I was in EU. Their rates went up almost 25% this year, so I’ve changed to a NZ based insurer.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera SM 007, Fiji
On 24 Aug 2019, at 10:24, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,
We are taking delivery of our new 50, Speed of Life, soon, and are shopping for insurance.
We will be US-flagged, but sailing, La Rochelle to Gibraltar, then throughout the Med.
We’re looking for great service, over lowest rates.
We have 3 or 4 quotes, so far.
We have been warned to avoid Pantaenius USA (different company than Pantaenius UK, who won’t insure us). Y-Yacht also won’t cover a US flagged vessel.
We do have a quote from Topsail (Global Yacht Cover) that is a bit high, but has good reviews.
Can anyone make a recommendation?
We value a company that will work hard to make us whole after a claim, vs one that works equally hard to deny a claim.
BTW, we have not had a claim in 32 years of boat ownership.
Thanks in Advance,

Cindy and Matt
Amel 50
S/V Speed of Life
Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Mike Ondra
 

I got chased out of the Academy Anchorage area by the Dockmaster a few weeks ago. Apparently theiy are discouraging anchoring right off the bulkhead. Wound up anchoring at Back Creek where there’s opportunities both outside and inside the creek.
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay


On Aug 23, 2019, at 7:59 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Patrick,

They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area.

Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hope to see you all as Kim and I make our way North from Trinidad in November. It's been a bit since St. Michaels. Tune into the Coconut Telegraph when you get settled in and we will connect from there. 
All the best 
Chuck and Kim 
Joy 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:00 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ah, too bad.  Now you’ve got us thinking of going to Bermuda again.  Iris hasn’t been since she was a kid.   Hmmm, we may get back to you in this.
K&I

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Kent, I will be heading to Bermuda first so that cuts me out sorry.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 5:25:32 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Heading S from the Chesapeake
 
Alan/Mark,
We are also heading S in Nov, first to St Augustine, then meeting friends in Bahamas for a few weeks, then working our way down to Martinique.  Are you going outside straight to Martinique?  If staying W of the Stream we might head out with you.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

I had a bit of corrosion at the mast base but not bad. I replaced the pads from Maud, expensive little suckers, $280 for the pair. I don’t think I really needed to do that as there is not really anyway for the water to get between the mast base and the pad. Those drain holes you see are the top side of a plate welded into the base of the mast so that there is no way for water to go anywhere else but out those holes..
I will be leaving as soon as the rugby World Cup is over which I think the final is Nov 2nd so absolutely let’s keep in touch, probably head down in company.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 11:21:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig
 

Thanks Alan.

Sounds like pulling the mast was a good solution for you and glad to hear it went well.

We are primarily focused on replacing the 20 year old standing rigging, but several “experts” have recommended pulling the mast to check the base. I wonder if that is more of a concern with a keel stepped mast as the base has greater potential for sitting in sea water and is not as readily observed on a regular basis. Did you find any issues at the base/deck interface? Is there a pad there that needed replacement? And as you said, repairs up and down the mast are certainly easier when it is horizontal and bench height.

I was able to locate Olivier’s instructions on the old Yahoo BB and attached them here for reference within the current bulletin board.

We also will depart the Chesapeake, on or around November 3, bound for Martinique. Let’s stay in touch.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Mike, yes we have just finished with the rerig. We pulled the masts which for us was the best way for us to go. We have only had the boat less than a year so we had no idea what condition all the parts were in, jib furler, gearboxes, motors etc so having the masts down allowed us to pull everything off in a much easier way. We were also able to remove old wires from each mast and renew, changed out the steaming light, paint touch up corroded areas, servicing the manual furler gearboxes mizzen and main were accomplished much easier. I felt there was no time pressure if something went wrong.
I watched a boat in Ft Lauderdale get there rigging replaced in the slip and if that's all you are doing then I would have no concerns doing that but for us we had a lot of extras to do.
One of the main reasons we did the rigging now and not wait till Martinique was we were getting a lot of mast pumping and could not get rid of it. Once the riggers had tuned it the pumping was even worse and they had no solution to it even after I had shown them the tuning write up so I loosened everything off and followed the directions explicitly and what do you know no more pumping. I'm sure it's not tight enough but I hope to bump into some SM's shortly and check tension with them and we still plan on heading direct to Martinique in Nov.
Acmo rigging was just as advertised, perfect.
Price for the crane was about $600 each way and all the riggers did was remove and replace the masts and do their tune.
Hope this helps
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis

From: main@... <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 12:47:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Alan.
We are looking at rerigging in the next few months with one vendor wanting to pull the mast and another planning to do it in place. Had not considered doing it ourselves. Have you completed your rerigging and have you any advice from your experience?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay 

Re: Maintenance costs for Amel yachts

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Good article, thanks Alan. Yes, we are across this and delayed our departure till tomorrow now. We are hoping that this has blow a little south of our direct track to Savasavu by then.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:17 PM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Well said Colin,

Are you in Vava'au ?

Heading for Fiji, hopefully you know about this :
https://www.noonsite.com/news/south-pacific-tonga-to-fiji-navigation-alert-dangerous-slick-of-volcanic-rubble/

All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445
Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake

karkauai
 

Ah, too bad.  Now you’ve got us thinking of going to Bermuda again.  Iris hasn’t been since she was a kid.   Hmmm, we may get back to you in this.
K&I

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Kent, I will be heading to Bermuda first so that cuts me out sorry.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 5:25:32 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Heading S from the Chesapeake
 
Alan/Mark,
We are also heading S in Nov, first to St Augustine, then meeting friends in Bahamas for a few weeks, then working our way down to Martinique.  Are you going outside straight to Martinique?  If staying W of the Stream we might head out with you.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

I had a bit of corrosion at the mast base but not bad. I replaced the pads from Maud, expensive little suckers, $280 for the pair. I don’t think I really needed to do that as there is not really anyway for the water to get between the mast base and the pad. Those drain holes you see are the top side of a plate welded into the base of the mast so that there is no way for water to go anywhere else but out those holes..
I will be leaving as soon as the rugby World Cup is over which I think the final is Nov 2nd so absolutely let’s keep in touch, probably head down in company.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 11:21:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig
 

Thanks Alan.

Sounds like pulling the mast was a good solution for you and glad to hear it went well.

We are primarily focused on replacing the 20 year old standing rigging, but several “experts” have recommended pulling the mast to check the base. I wonder if that is more of a concern with a keel stepped mast as the base has greater potential for sitting in sea water and is not as readily observed on a regular basis. Did you find any issues at the base/deck interface? Is there a pad there that needed replacement? And as you said, repairs up and down the mast are certainly easier when it is horizontal and bench height.

I was able to locate Olivier’s instructions on the old Yahoo BB and attached them here for reference within the current bulletin board.

We also will depart the Chesapeake, on or around November 3, bound for Martinique. Let’s stay in touch.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 7:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Mike, yes we have just finished with the rerig. We pulled the masts which for us was the best way for us to go. We have only had the boat less than a year so we had no idea what condition all the parts were in, jib furler, gearboxes, motors etc so having the masts down allowed us to pull everything off in a much easier way. We were also able to remove old wires from each mast and renew, changed out the steaming light, paint touch up corroded areas, servicing the manual furler gearboxes mizzen and main were accomplished much easier. I felt there was no time pressure if something went wrong.
I watched a boat in Ft Lauderdale get there rigging replaced in the slip and if that's all you are doing then I would have no concerns doing that but for us we had a lot of extras to do.
One of the main reasons we did the rigging now and not wait till Martinique was we were getting a lot of mast pumping and could not get rid of it. Once the riggers had tuned it the pumping was even worse and they had no solution to it even after I had shown them the tuning write up so I loosened everything off and followed the directions explicitly and what do you know no more pumping. I'm sure it's not tight enough but I hope to bump into some SM's shortly and check tension with them and we still plan on heading direct to Martinique in Nov.
Acmo rigging was just as advertised, perfect.
Price for the crane was about $600 each way and all the riggers did was remove and replace the masts and do their tune.
Hope this helps
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Annapolis

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig

 

Hi Alan.
We are looking at rerigging in the next few months with one vendor wanting to pull the mast and another planning to do it in place. Had not considered doing it ourselves. Have you completed your rerigging and have you any advice from your experience?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay 

Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Patrick,

They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area.

Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Maintenance costs for Amel yachts

Alan Leslie
 

Well said Colin,

Are you in Vava'au ?

Heading for Fiji, hopefully you know about this :
https://www.noonsite.com/news/south-pacific-tonga-to-fiji-navigation-alert-dangerous-slick-of-volcanic-rubble/

All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Insurance in Europe

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Matt,

I used Y Yachts when I was in EU. Their rates went up almost 25% this year, so I’ve changed to a NZ based insurer.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera SM 007, Fiji
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On 24 Aug 2019, at 10:24, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,
We are taking delivery of our new 50, Speed of Life, soon, and are shopping for insurance.
We will be US-flagged, but sailing, La Rochelle to Gibraltar, then throughout the Med.
We’re looking for great service, over lowest rates.
We have 3 or 4 quotes, so far.
We have been warned to avoid Pantaenius USA (different company than Pantaenius UK, who won’t insure us). Y-Yacht also won’t cover a US flagged vessel.
We do have a quote from Topsail (Global Yacht Cover) that is a bit high, but has good reviews.
Can anyone make a recommendation?
We value a company that will work hard to make us whole after a claim, vs one that works equally hard to deny a claim.
BTW, we have not had a claim in 32 years of boat ownership.
Thanks in Advance,

Cindy and Matt
Amel 50
S/V Speed of Life
9161 - 9180 of 56758