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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster stuck

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

I just added photos of the Bow Thruster "stuck" problem to the Photos
section titled "BOW THRUSTER SERVICE"

You should be able to see them by following this link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1587075684/pic/list

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ - soon to be continuing for a full circle back to the
Caribbean

What did work was the "drop thing" that Amel suggested. I disconnected
the end points of both the up & the down cables. I went outside to the
bow thruster and lifted it and pulled it down hard about 10 times when
it broke free. I should state that this was tried after about 2 hours
of everything else tried or suggested in this thread and possibly my
success was the sum of everything.

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ - soon to be continuing for a full circle back to the
Caribbean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster stuck

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

David, Ed and All,

I had the same problem with the bow thruster tube/shaft stuck to the
motor.

David said, "Amel told me to disconnect the motor from the cables and
drop it. Good Luck ! I did this many times with no success."

While on the hard, I tried everything that Ed et al tried with
penetrating solution. I also placed a "C" clamp around the thruster
shaft just before the bow thruster enclosure gets larger. Then with
some wooden blocks between the "C" clamp and the hull, I used the
lifting motor to attempt separate the tube from the motor while beating
with a hammer where the shaft joins the bottom of the motor. This did
not seem to work.

What did work was the "drop thing" that Amel suggested. I disconnected
the end points of both the up & the down cables. I went outside to the
bow thruster and lifted it and pulled it down hard about 10 times when
it broke free. I should state that this was tried after about 2 hours
of everything else tried or suggested in this thread and possibly my
success was the sum of everything.

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ - soon to be continuing for a full circle back to the
Caribbean



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <windmillerii@...>
wrote:

I had SM # 325 and had the exact same problem !
I now have an Amel 54 Windmiller II.
I will be sailing in the Med Red Ralley departing 1st May from
Finike.
Now to your BIG Problem
Before I did what you may have to do. Amel told me to disconnect the
motor from the cables and drop it. Good Luck ! I did this many times
with no success.
This is Probably what you should do:
You will have to separate the plastic shaft tube from the motor and
metal shaft. This you will acheive by going into the gear box behind the
propellor. You will have to take apart all the gear mechanizem &
propellor.
Unscrew the metal shaft from the gear mechanizem. This will separate
the motor and metal shaft from the plastic shaft tube.
Once you have this separation you can take the electric motor and
metal shaft up and out the forward hatch.
Take to a workshop and disasseble motor to bear minimum.
With two burners, heat up the female part of the connection between
shaft and motor, after much hammering it will come loose. While doing
this I put the coil in bucket of water so that coils of motor want get
damaged from the heat and the shaft was held in a vise.
This is going to be a good oppertunity to change all the bearings
and seals, inspect gear mechanisem.
After I found water in the bottom of the motor casing, I drilled
four holes in the bottom of the motor casing to allow water to exit. (I
thought it was good idea but not sure)

If you have any questions, I'm in Israel +972 544 700313

Good Luck
David Miller

Ed Steele edmundsteele@... wrote:
I have just returned to SV DoodleBug SM #331 which is
currently "on the
hard" at Marmaris, Turkey. I attempted to perform a routine 24 month
service
on the bow-thruster in order to replace the seals and oil. I removed
the
band that prevents the retaining screws from being removed and then
removed
all four of the 6mm Allen headed retaining bolts. The bow thruster leg
will
not drop from the drive motor. By looking through the retaining bolt
holes,
I can see that the shaft body has dropped several mm. from the motor
housing
and is now stuck. I have sprayed WD40 oil through the bolt holes but I
believe that the "foot" drive shaft is stuck to the motor drive shaft
-
probably by corrosion. I have tried lowering the unit and running the
propeller in both directions and have also tried placing a block of
wood
inside the propeller housing and then raising the unit. So far nothing
has
worked.

My questions are:
1) Is there anything I have forgotten to unbolt that is holding the
bowthruster foot to the motor?
2) If not, does anyone have any suggestions on how I can separate
these
units so that I can complete the service?

Ed Steele

edmundsteele@...
doodlebug@...






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Re: [Amel] CLIMA Heating/cooling

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi, according to Clima when using the "heat" cycle run the fan setting on high or the lack of air moving over the coils will burn them out..
Good luck.
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corsica SM 209

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, MERTZ <jlmertz@free.fr> wrote:

From: MERTZ <jlmertz@free.fr>
Subject: [Amel] CLIMA Heating/cooling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:11 AM












I just make somme preparation on CottonBay and I tested the value of

the condensators in the CLIMA unit (those wo regulate the fan speed).



<B> !! ALL capacitors are out of specification !!</B>



Donot forget to verifey this if the spead of the fan is to low the

theating termostat works more and he rapeadly faille ....































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CLIMA Heating/cooling

MERTZ <jlmertz@...>
 

I just make somme preparation on CottonBay and I tested the value of
the condensators in the CLIMA unit (those wo regulate the fan speed).

<B> !! ALL capacitors are out of specification !!</B>

Donot forget to verifey this if the spead of the fan is to low the
theating termostat works more and he rapeadly faille ....


VOLVO MD22 WATER PUMP CHANGE

perinbernard <perin-bernard@...>
 

Hello,
On my VOLVO MD22 I have a leak on the water pump (probably the seal on
the shaft).
To change the water pump it is a big job : it needs to remove the touth
belt, the 2 gear pulley and the timing gear casing.
I have already bought the special tools to do that.
If somebody did this job before thanks for advises.
Regards
Bernard PERIN
MARY BIRD VII
SM#100


Re: Servicing the Onan MDKVA Heat Exchanger

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Great post Bill,

Gary SM 2000 Hull # 335


Servicing the Onan MDKVA Heat Exchanger

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi,

FYI, I uploaded my service log on the Onan MDKVA Heat Exchanger to the
Photos section of this site.

It is titled "Servicing the Onan MDKVA Heat Exchanger"

I think this link will take you directly to it:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1489622282/pi\;
c/list

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ for the Pacific Cyclone Season, then on our way around


Amel Euros 39 Repairs

matt <russisland@...>
 

Hi All:)
Please check my new photos in album 'SV.Darien'-this is example of the
bad repairs from the past...Hull area shows lots of osmosis 'patched'
with all sorts of materials eg. epoxy, polyester, vinylester..and the
car bog??!
The plan is to let the hull dry for aprox. 3 months until the moisture
level reach 2-3%.
Then fill up the bad areas and previously repaired spots with
cabosil/vinylester putty. After sending smooth will go 2 layers of
450g. biaxial cloth with vinyl ester following 2 layers of 6oz. cloth
with epoxy. This 2 last layers will go over/under the steel keel shoe which should give peace of mind about keel bolts condition(just can't
locate them).
All underwater area will be then smooth with microballoons/epoxy.
This should make this hull strong and problem free.
Can anyone add any comments or suggestion to this plan?
Best Regards to All.
Fair Winds
Magic
S.V.Darien
Amel Euros #88


Color of Boot Stripe?

Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
 

I want to re-paint the boot stripe on my Sharki #123 and am wondering
whether anyone might know a source for the "original" orange paint? TIA.



Roy Duddy

Duddy Law Offices, PLLC

175 Route 101

Bedford, NH 03110



603-472-8500

603-472-7333 Fax


Re: [Amel] santorin 1989

amelforme
 

All Amel Santorin and Super Maramu boats had an anti-osmosis system
installed at the time of original construction. After the gel coat was put
on to the hull mold, a proprietary epoxy based anti-osmotic barrier was
applied behind the gel coat before the actual fiberglass laminations were
initiated. The reason Amel chose to put the barrier behind the gel coat was
to have the gel coat "protect" the epoxy to prevent damage from scratches
and possibly too aggressive sanding of anti- fouling. It has worked well
over the years as osmotic reactions on these series of Amel boats are very
rare and generally caused by improper maintenance procedures such as high
pressure sand/soda blasting of the hull to remove old anti-fouling.
The very early series of these models had the first version on the Amel
drive system that had an aluminum outer case in stead of the cast iron case
employed later. The aluminum case will, in every case, fail causing
destruction to the drive system. If you send a email to Amel service team at
sav@amel.fr and tell them the hull number of the vessel in question, they
can tell you if the boat has the early drive system and also if it was
replaced by the cast iron unit.
Good luck with your pursuit of an Amel boat.sav@amel.fr

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


santorin 1989

c_fruendt
 

Hi as i am searching for a santorin i come closer to a interestin
priced santorin from 89, one of the firt ones. Rigged as sloop.

Some questions:
the broker mentioned amel system for anti osmosis was applied. Does
anyone know what this exactly mean ?

Are there any problems with the old C drive and was the Santorin the
first one with C drive or does the older maramus or SM had the same one.

Are there any known problem with bow thruster of this age ?

Any specific areas which are maybe critical ?

Thanks for advice
carsten


Re: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

karkauai
 

I'll call you when I get to Galveston...might drop by when I'm in Kemah getting my EPIRB, dinghy, life raft, and outboard.
Look forward to having you and your daughter aboard for the shakedown.
kent

--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com> wrote:


From: Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:19 AM






Kent

My contact information below

Jenobi Inc.

10400 Westoffice Drive

Suite 111

Houston Texas 77042

Main 281 535 6400

Cell 281 831 0398

Fax 832 209 7252

http://www.jenobi. com <http://www.jenobi. com/>

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: Mark McBride
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Great, Mel, I look forward to meeting you as well. There may be one or even two previous Amel owners in Galveston for
the Shakedown in the Bay, and a good chance one will go with us to the Keys.
I'll be in Galveston Sat. early afternoon, probably won't have Kristy in the water until Mon. or Tues. (or Wed) We'll
play it by ear. You can reach my cell phone at 828 234 6819, I'll have it with me.
Kent

--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Mel Davis <davis@jenobi. com <mailto:davis% 40jenobi. com> > wrote:

From: Mel Davis <davis@jenobi. com <mailto:davis% 40jenobi. com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com> , jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com
<mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> , gmcerillo@yahoo. com <mailto:gmcerillo% 40yahoo.com>
Cc: "'John J McCarthy'" <jjmccart@comcast. net <mailto:jjmccart% 40comcast. net> >
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:06 PM

Kent

I am located in Kemah so let me know a good place and time and we can get together. Our Amel has not sailed yet so I
have no experience with this boat but have many years overall sailing experience and 8 yrs in Galveston Bay so am happy
to do some shakedown with you and my 19 year old daughter would also be happy to help if available (she works on the
weekends)

Coastal to the keys is a longish trip, I have friends who have sailed across the GOM and I have been offshore. It is not
a place to be finding out about your boat in my view, seas can be unpleasant and it is very crowded offshore Texas and
Louisiana with oil platforms etc, not all of which carry lights.

I look forward to meeting you

Cheers

Mel

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai@yahoo. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com; jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com; gmcerillo@yahoo. com
Cc: John J McCarthy; Mel
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Hi, Jim, John, and Mel (And George Cerillo if you're out there.)
Haven't talked to you for a while. I'm still hoping to take the boat from Galveston to the Keys around Mar 5 and hoped
we could get together while I'm down there. I've run into a snag with the del.capn who scheduled another delivery since
I couldn't give him a firm date for departure. I'm hoping to hook up with you or another Amel owner down that way
before I leave who'd be willing to take a daysail or two with me in the bay before I set sail to help me get familiar
with the boat's systems and quirks before we leave. There's an Mango being refit in Kemah who's project foreman (Mel)
and owner (John) said they'd like to get together while I'm there. Might be fun to get all of us together for a sail on
the bay and a few beers or a bottle of wine. I'll be there from midday Sat 2/28 until we depart. Are you interested?

Jim, I'd reallly be interested in the upgrades you've done to Pao-San and anything else you have to offer. I went ahead
and ordered the 145% genoa and the 110% high-cut jib on the recommendation of several owners and others. I also have a
storm sail that's never been used that attaches around the furled headsail if it get's stronger than 35-40 kts. There
are also the ballooner and an assymetrical spinnaker that are in good shape but stained pretty badly from being left wet
in the locker for a while. I think there may be a jib for the mizzen as well, but haven't actually seen it yet.

I've ordered The Cap'n and some charts for it as well as paper charts for this trip, but am trying to figure out how to
charge/power the laptop and my satphone with the current electrical setup. I'll wait a while before I buy a dedicated
chartplotter until I decide what I really want and/or need. Any suggestions about the laptop and satphone? I think all
I really need is to have the current 12v outlet changed to a cigarette-lighter type outlet, then I'd be golden. Don't
really want to have to charge using 220v AC power even though the charger is supposed to work on 220 volt with an
adapter. What do you use the two-hole 12v receptacle for on your boat...or am I misunderstanding something?

I'm about to decide to take the boat myself with the help of a couple of other sailors I know who don't have serious
passage-making experience. We'd probably go coastally to the keys instead of straight across the Gulf. Any thoughts
about that?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo. com <mailto:karkauai% 40yahoo.com>
828 234 6819

--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> > wrote:

From: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM

Dear Kent

I assume you live in the North Texas area-----I have owned a Super
Maramu (Pao-San) #88 since 1999 and live in Arlington Texas. If you wish
to get together some time mutually acceptable I will be pleased to share
with you what I know about the boat. Since I purchased it, I have sailed
about 30,000. miles and invested in substantial improvements to the
boat. Presently the boat is in Norfolk Virginia getting prepared for a
year long trip to the Med. in May 2009.
My office number is 817 288-2600.
Best Jim Dernehl

____________ _________ _________ __

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] New Set of Sails

Ahoy, Amel Family. New member here, just bought 1999SuperMaramu on
Lake Texoma. Trucking to Galveston this mo. and trying to get her
ready to go south by mid Jan. She needs a new set of sails, and I'd
like some opinions on what was recommended by Banks Sails Gulf Coast
after talking to Amel. He said that a 145% genoa was recommended for
anything up to 30kts of wind, and a smaller headsail ~110% for steady
winds of 20+.
145% genoa sounds like a LOT of sail. I was wondering if those you who
are sailing SuperMaramu' s are using this configuration and what you
think of it. If you're using something else, what?, and what are the
conditions your sailing in? I was thinking something more like 120-
130% genoa???

I'm going to need some hand-holding for a while, you'll probably hear a
lot from me in the coming months.

thanks in advance for your help.
Kent Robertson



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Re: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Mel Davis <davis@...>
 

Kent



My contact information below









Jenobi Inc.

10400 Westoffice Drive

Suite 111

Houston Texas 77042

Main 281 535 6400

Cell 281 831 0398

Fax 832 209 7252

http://www.jenobi.com <http://www.jenobi.com/>







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Mark McBride
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)



Great, Mel, I look forward to meeting you as well. There may be one or even two previous Amel owners in Galveston for
the Shakedown in the Bay, and a good chance one will go with us to the Keys.
I'll be in Galveston Sat. early afternoon, probably won't have Kristy in the water until Mon. or Tues. (or Wed) We'll
play it by ear. You can reach my cell phone at 828 234 6819, I'll have it with me.
Kent

--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com <mailto:davis%40jenobi.com> > wrote:

From: Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com <mailto:davis%40jenobi.com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com
<mailto:jim.dernehl%40operatingtech.com> , gmcerillo@yahoo.com <mailto:gmcerillo%40yahoo.com>
Cc: "'John J McCarthy'" <jjmccart@comcast.net <mailto:jjmccart%40comcast.net> >
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:06 PM

Kent

I am located in Kemah so let me know a good place and time and we can get together. Our Amel has not sailed yet so I
have no experience with this boat but have many years overall sailing experience and 8 yrs in Galveston Bay so am happy
to do some shakedown with you and my 19 year old daughter would also be happy to help if available (she works on the
weekends)

Coastal to the keys is a longish trip, I have friends who have sailed across the GOM and I have been offshore. It is not
a place to be finding out about your boat in my view, seas can be unpleasant and it is very crowded offshore Texas and
Louisiana with oil platforms etc, not all of which carry lights.

I look forward to meeting you

Cheers

Mel

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai@yahoo. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com; jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com; gmcerillo@yahoo. com
Cc: John J McCarthy; Mel
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Hi, Jim, John, and Mel (And George Cerillo if you're out there.)
Haven't talked to you for a while. I'm still hoping to take the boat from Galveston to the Keys around Mar 5 and hoped
we could get together while I'm down there. I've run into a snag with the del.capn who scheduled another delivery since
I couldn't give him a firm date for departure. I'm hoping to hook up with you or another Amel owner down that way
before I leave who'd be willing to take a daysail or two with me in the bay before I set sail to help me get familiar
with the boat's systems and quirks before we leave. There's an Mango being refit in Kemah who's project foreman (Mel)
and owner (John) said they'd like to get together while I'm there. Might be fun to get all of us together for a sail on
the bay and a few beers or a bottle of wine. I'll be there from midday Sat 2/28 until we depart. Are you interested?

Jim, I'd reallly be interested in the upgrades you've done to Pao-San and anything else you have to offer. I went ahead
and ordered the 145% genoa and the 110% high-cut jib on the recommendation of several owners and others. I also have a
storm sail that's never been used that attaches around the furled headsail if it get's stronger than 35-40 kts. There
are also the ballooner and an assymetrical spinnaker that are in good shape but stained pretty badly from being left wet
in the locker for a while. I think there may be a jib for the mizzen as well, but haven't actually seen it yet.

I've ordered The Cap'n and some charts for it as well as paper charts for this trip, but am trying to figure out how to
charge/power the laptop and my satphone with the current electrical setup. I'll wait a while before I buy a dedicated
chartplotter until I decide what I really want and/or need. Any suggestions about the laptop and satphone? I think all
I really need is to have the current 12v outlet changed to a cigarette-lighter type outlet, then I'd be golden. Don't
really want to have to charge using 220v AC power even though the charger is supposed to work on 220 volt with an
adapter. What do you use the two-hole 12v receptacle for on your boat...or am I misunderstanding something?

I'm about to decide to take the boat myself with the help of a couple of other sailors I know who don't have serious
passage-making experience. We'd probably go coastally to the keys instead of straight across the Gulf. Any thoughts
about that?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo. com <mailto:karkauai% 40yahoo.com>
828 234 6819

--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> > wrote:

From: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM

Dear Kent

I assume you live in the North Texas area-----I have owned a Super
Maramu (Pao-San) #88 since 1999 and live in Arlington Texas. If you wish
to get together some time mutually acceptable I will be pleased to share
with you what I know about the boat. Since I purchased it, I have sailed
about 30,000. miles and invested in substantial improvements to the
boat. Presently the boat is in Norfolk Virginia getting prepared for a
year long trip to the Med. in May 2009.
My office number is 817 288-2600.
Best Jim Dernehl

____________ _________ _________ __

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] New Set of Sails

Ahoy, Amel Family. New member here, just bought 1999SuperMaramu on
Lake Texoma. Trucking to Galveston this mo. and trying to get her
ready to go south by mid Jan. She needs a new set of sails, and I'd
like some opinions on what was recommended by Banks Sails Gulf Coast
after talking to Amel. He said that a 145% genoa was recommended for
anything up to 30kts of wind, and a smaller headsail ~110% for steady
winds of 20+.
145% genoa sounds like a LOT of sail. I was wondering if those you who
are sailing SuperMaramu' s are using this configuration and what you
think of it. If you're using something else, what?, and what are the
conditions your sailing in? I was thinking something more like 120-
130% genoa???

I'm going to need some hand-holding for a while, you'll probably hear a
lot from me in the coming months.

thanks in advance for your help.
Kent Robertson


Re: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

karkauai
 

Great, Mel, I look forward to meeting you as well.  There may be one or even two previous Amel owners in Galveston for the Shakedown in the Bay, and a good chance one will go with us to the Keys.
I'll be in Galveston Sat. early afternoon, probably won't have Kristy in the water until Mon. or Tues. (or Wed)  We'll play it by ear.  You can reach my cell phone at 828 234 6819, I'll have it with me.
Kent

--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com> wrote:


From: Mel Davis <davis@jenobi.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com, gmcerillo@yahoo.com
Cc: "'John J McCarthy'" <jjmccart@comcast.net>
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:06 PM






Kent

I am located in Kemah so let me know a good place and time and we can get together. Our Amel has not sailed yet so I
have no experience with this boat but have many years overall sailing experience and 8 yrs in Galveston Bay so am happy
to do some shakedown with you and my 19 year old daughter would also be happy to help if available (she works on the
weekends)

Coastal to the keys is a longish trip, I have friends who have sailed across the GOM and I have been offshore. It is not
a place to be finding out about your boat in my view, seas can be unpleasant and it is very crowded offshore Texas and
Louisiana with oil platforms etc, not all of which carry lights.

I look forward to meeting you

Cheers

Mel

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai@yahoo. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com; jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com; gmcerillo@yahoo. com
Cc: John J McCarthy; Mel
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Hi, Jim, John, and Mel (And George Cerillo if you're out there.)
Haven't talked to you for a while. I'm still hoping to take the boat from Galveston to the Keys around Mar 5 and hoped
we could get together while I'm down there. I've run into a snag with the del.capn who scheduled another delivery since
I couldn't give him a firm date for departure. I'm hoping to hook up with you or another Amel owner down that way
before I leave who'd be willing to take a daysail or two with me in the bay before I set sail to help me get familiar
with the boat's systems and quirks before we leave. There's an Mango being refit in Kemah who's project foreman (Mel)
and owner (John) said they'd like to get together while I'm there. Might be fun to get all of us together for a sail on
the bay and a few beers or a bottle of wine. I'll be there from midday Sat 2/28 until we depart. Are you interested?

Jim, I'd reallly be interested in the upgrades you've done to Pao-San and anything else you have to offer. I went ahead
and ordered the 145% genoa and the 110% high-cut jib on the recommendation of several owners and others. I also have a
storm sail that's never been used that attaches around the furled headsail if it get's stronger than 35-40 kts. There
are also the ballooner and an assymetrical spinnaker that are in good shape but stained pretty badly from being left wet
in the locker for a while. I think there may be a jib for the mizzen as well, but haven't actually seen it yet.

I've ordered The Cap'n and some charts for it as well as paper charts for this trip, but am trying to figure out how to
charge/power the laptop and my satphone with the current electrical setup. I'll wait a while before I buy a dedicated
chartplotter until I decide what I really want and/or need. Any suggestions about the laptop and satphone? I think all
I really need is to have the current 12v outlet changed to a cigarette-lighter type outlet, then I'd be golden. Don't
really want to have to charge using 220v AC power even though the charger is supposed to work on 220 volt with an
adapter. What do you use the two-hole 12v receptacle for on your boat...or am I misunderstanding something?

I'm about to decide to take the boat myself with the help of a couple of other sailors I know who don't have serious
passage-making experience. We'd probably go coastally to the keys instead of straight across the Gulf. Any thoughts
about that?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo. com <mailto:karkauai% 40yahoo.com>
828 234 6819


--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> > wrote:

From: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@ operatingtech. com <mailto:jim. dernehl%40operat ingtech.com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM

Dear Kent

I assume you live in the North Texas area-----I have owned a Super
Maramu (Pao-San) #88 since 1999 and live in Arlington Texas. If you wish
to get together some time mutually acceptable I will be pleased to share
with you what I know about the boat. Since I purchased it, I have sailed
about 30,000. miles and invested in substantial improvements to the
boat. Presently the boat is in Norfolk Virginia getting prepared for a
year long trip to the Med. in May 2009.
My office number is 817 288-2600.
Best Jim Dernehl

____________ _________ _________ __

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] New Set of Sails

Ahoy, Amel Family. New member here, just bought 1999SuperMaramu on
Lake Texoma. Trucking to Galveston this mo. and trying to get her
ready to go south by mid Jan. She needs a new set of sails, and I'd
like some opinions on what was recommended by Banks Sails Gulf Coast
after talking to Amel. He said that a 145% genoa was recommended for
anything up to 30kts of wind, and a smaller headsail ~110% for steady
winds of 20+.
145% genoa sounds like a LOT of sail. I was wondering if those you who
are sailing SuperMaramu' s are using this configuration and what you
think of it. If you're using something else, what?, and what are the
conditions your sailing in? I was thinking something more like 120-
130% genoa???

I'm going to need some hand-holding for a while, you'll probably hear a
lot from me in the coming months.

thanks in advance for your help.
Kent Robertson

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

Mel Davis <davis@...>
 

Kent



I am located in Kemah so let me know a good place and time and we can get together. Our Amel has not sailed yet so I
have no experience with this boat but have many years overall sailing experience and 8 yrs in Galveston Bay so am happy
to do some shakedown with you and my 19 year old daughter would also be happy to help if available (she works on the
weekends)



Coastal to the keys is a longish trip, I have friends who have sailed across the GOM and I have been offshore. It is not
a place to be finding out about your boat in my view, seas can be unpleasant and it is very crowded offshore Texas and
Louisiana with oil platforms etc, not all of which carry lights.



I look forward to meeting you



Cheers



Mel



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of karkauai@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com; jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com; gmcerillo@yahoo.com
Cc: John J McCarthy; Mel
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)





Hi, Jim, John, and Mel (And George Cerillo if you're out there.)
Haven't talked to you for a while. I'm still hoping to take the boat from Galveston to the Keys around Mar 5 and hoped
we could get together while I'm down there. I've run into a snag with the del.capn who scheduled another delivery since
I couldn't give him a firm date for departure. I'm hoping to hook up with you or another Amel owner down that way
before I leave who'd be willing to take a daysail or two with me in the bay before I set sail to help me get familiar
with the boat's systems and quirks before we leave. There's an Mango being refit in Kemah who's project foreman (Mel)
and owner (John) said they'd like to get together while I'm there. Might be fun to get all of us together for a sail on
the bay and a few beers or a bottle of wine. I'll be there from midday Sat 2/28 until we depart. Are you interested?

Jim, I'd reallly be interested in the upgrades you've done to Pao-San and anything else you have to offer. I went ahead
and ordered the 145% genoa and the 110% high-cut jib on the recommendation of several owners and others. I also have a
storm sail that's never been used that attaches around the furled headsail if it get's stronger than 35-40 kts. There
are also the ballooner and an assymetrical spinnaker that are in good shape but stained pretty badly from being left wet
in the locker for a while. I think there may be a jib for the mizzen as well, but haven't actually seen it yet.

I've ordered The Cap'n and some charts for it as well as paper charts for this trip, but am trying to figure out how to
charge/power the laptop and my satphone with the current electrical setup. I'll wait a while before I buy a dedicated
chartplotter until I decide what I really want and/or need. Any suggestions about the laptop and satphone? I think all
I really need is to have the current 12v outlet changed to a cigarette-lighter type outlet, then I'd be golden. Don't
really want to have to charge using 220v AC power even though the charger is supposed to work on 220 volt with an
adapter. What do you use the two-hole 12v receptacle for on your boat...or am I misunderstanding something?

I'm about to decide to take the boat myself with the help of a couple of other sailors I know who don't have serious
passage-making experience. We'd probably go coastally to the keys instead of straight across the Gulf. Any thoughts
about that?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo.com <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
828 234 6819


--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com <mailto:jim.dernehl%40operatingtech.com> > wrote:

From: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com <mailto:jim.dernehl%40operatingtech.com> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM

Dear Kent

I assume you live in the North Texas area-----I have owned a Super
Maramu (Pao-San) #88 since 1999 and live in Arlington Texas. If you wish
to get together some time mutually acceptable I will be pleased to share
with you what I know about the boat. Since I purchased it, I have sailed
about 30,000. miles and invested in substantial improvements to the
boat. Presently the boat is in Norfolk Virginia getting prepared for a
year long trip to the Med. in May 2009.
My office number is 817 288-2600.
Best Jim Dernehl

____________ _________ _________ __

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] New Set of Sails

Ahoy, Amel Family. New member here, just bought 1999SuperMaramu on
Lake Texoma. Trucking to Galveston this mo. and trying to get her
ready to go south by mid Jan. She needs a new set of sails, and I'd
like some opinions on what was recommended by Banks Sails Gulf Coast
after talking to Amel. He said that a 145% genoa was recommended for
anything up to 30kts of wind, and a smaller headsail ~110% for steady
winds of 20+.
145% genoa sounds like a LOT of sail. I was wondering if those you who
are sailing SuperMaramu' s are using this configuration and what you
think of it. If you're using something else, what?, and what are the
conditions your sailing in? I was thinking something more like 120-
130% genoa???

I'm going to need some hand-holding for a while, you'll probably hear a
lot from me in the coming months.

thanks in advance for your help.
Kent Robertson


Re: [Amel] New Set of Sails (Galveston to the Keys trip in March)

karkauai
 

Hi, Jim, John, and Mel (And George Cerillo if you're out there.)
Haven't talked to you for a while.  I'm still hoping to take the boat from Galveston to the Keys around Mar 5 and hoped we could get together while I'm down there.  I've run into a snag with the del.capn who scheduled another delivery since I couldn't give him a firm date for departure.  I'm hoping to hook up with you or another Amel owner down that way before I leave who'd be willing to take a daysail or two with me in the bay before I set sail to help me get familiar with the boat's systems and quirks before we leave.  There's an Mango being refit in Kemah who's project foreman (Mel) and owner (John) said they'd like to get together while I'm there.  Might be fun to get all of us together for a sail on the bay and a few beers or a bottle of wine.  I'll be there from midday Sat 2/28 until we depart.  Are you interested?
 
Jim, I'd reallly be interested in the upgrades you've done to Pao-San and anything else you have to offer.  I went ahead and ordered the 145% genoa and the 110% high-cut jib on the recommendation of several owners and others.  I also have a storm sail that's never been used that attaches around the furled headsail if it get's stronger than 35-40 kts.  There are also the ballooner and an assymetrical spinnaker that are in good shape but stained pretty badly from being left wet in the  locker for a while.  I think there may be a jib for the mizzen as well, but haven't actually seen it yet.
 
I've ordered The Cap'n and some charts for it as well as paper charts for this trip, but am trying to figure out how to charge/power the laptop and my satphone with the current electrical setup.  I'll wait a while before I buy a dedicated chartplotter until I decide what I really want and/or need.  Any suggestions about the laptop and satphone? I think all I really need is to have the current 12v outlet changed to a cigarette-lighter type outlet, then I'd be golden.  Don't really want to have to charge using 220v AC power even though the charger is supposed to work on 220 volt with an adapter.  What do you use the two-hole 12v receptacle for on your boat...or am I misunderstanding something?
 
I'm about to decide to take the boat myself with the help of a couple of other sailors I know who don't have serious passage-making experience.  We'd probably go coastally to the keys instead of straight across the Gulf.  Any thoughts about that?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Kent Robertson
karkauai@yahoo.com
828 234 6819

--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com> wrote:


From: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] New Set of Sails
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:30 AM






Dear Kent

I assume you live in the North Texas area-----I have owned a Super
Maramu (Pao-San) #88 since 1999 and live in Arlington Texas. If you wish
to get together some time mutually acceptable I will be pleased to share
with you what I know about the boat. Since I purchased it, I have sailed
about 30,000. miles and invested in substantial improvements to the
boat. Presently the boat is in Norfolk Virginia getting prepared for a
year long trip to the Med. in May 2009.
My office number is 817 288-2600.
Best Jim Dernehl

____________ _________ _________ __

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of karkauai
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] New Set of Sails

Ahoy, Amel Family. New member here, just bought 1999SuperMaramu on
Lake Texoma. Trucking to Galveston this mo. and trying to get her
ready to go south by mid Jan. She needs a new set of sails, and I'd
like some opinions on what was recommended by Banks Sails Gulf Coast
after talking to Amel. He said that a 145% genoa was recommended for
anything up to 30kts of wind, and a smaller headsail ~110% for steady
winds of 20+.
145% genoa sounds like a LOT of sail. I was wondering if those you who
are sailing SuperMaramu' s are using this configuration and what you
think of it. If you're using something else, what?, and what are the
conditions your sailing in? I was thinking something more like 120-
130% genoa???

I'm going to need some hand-holding for a while, you'll probably hear a
lot from me in the coming months.

thanks in advance for your help.
Kent Robertson

















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Re: Rudder Packing Service Photos

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

I use MS PowerPoint. By Using PowerPoint I am able to Insert Photos,
Text Boxes and Shapes (arrows) into a page (slide) then "save as" the
slide to a .jpg file.

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, New Zealand

Hi Bill:

Thanks for the nice photos and information in the photo section
on servicing the rudder post packing.
Likewise, thanks for you information on the Onan starting problems.
What program are you using to compose you photos with the text
balloons?

Gary

Amel SM2000 Hull # 335


Rudder Packing Service Photos

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill:

Thanks for the nice photos and information in the photo section
on servicing the rudder post packing.
Likewise, thanks for you information on the Onan starting problems.
What program are you using to compose you photos with the text
balloons?

Gary

Amel SM2000 Hull # 335


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