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Re: AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit
Jose Alegria
Bill, hi
Thank you very much for your opinion but I would like to detail the situation further and request your re-examination The Amel 50 and 60 currently come equipped with a central chiller system (Webasto ) and the last 55 at least from July 2017 have also been equipped with central chiller systems. My actual situation: My 55 hull nº 3 comes with: 2 compact CLIMA in the aft cabin both of 3.5; in the saloon one of 7 plus other 12 and in the front cabin another of 7; 5 equipments of a total of 33,000 btu, but 3,5 + 3,5 at the main cabin are clearly insufficient in places like Greece in July-August; They are totally ineffective and extremely noisy. How to solve?
a) Installing new independent CLIMA or WEBASTO equipment, increasing power in the aft cabin to at least 12-15 000BTU and benefiting from the fact that the most modern appliances have about 25% more cooling capacity,
b) keeping 5 equipment and also keeping the noise of the compressors in the noble spaces or following the current Amel philosophy by placing a WEBASTO variable speed schiller (Webasto V50) that drains only at 2.5 to 15 amp, not exceeding 5/8 amp in eco mode, and puts 5 air handlers (smaller than the compact units) How change all pipes system?
Probably the path of the current saltwater circuit can be replaced by Schiller liquid (water and glycol). I will also be able to take advantage of the condensate circuit to make the pipes pass through the same holes.
And maybe I need more new holes !.... I would be grateful for your more detailed appreciation of the issue. Thanks in advance Can you
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Re: Dishwasher top loading
Joerg Esdorn
No it replaces two drawers - no 2 and 3 from top. I haven’t installed it - still thinking about it.
Joerg
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Re: Reckman EF90 Genoa furler
Joerg Esdorn
Type 2 for both Genoa and staysail.
Joerg Esdorn A55 #53 Kincsem
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Re: Dishwasher top loading
Thank you Joerg
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Did you install this to your 55 and if so what location? In the early 55 model they installed a top-loader Regards Paul
On 13 Sep 2019, at 5:37 pm, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:
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Re: Reckman EF90 Genoa furler
Although I can find nothing on Amel specifications, I believe that you will find that the Reckmann EF series comes in 3 sizes: EF-90, EF90-2, and EF90-3 and that the Reckmann EF-90 is installed on the 55 and a recommended replacement for bamar on the 54. If I were you, I would ask this question to SAV"at"Amel.fr. --
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM Aldo Roldan via Groups.Io <aroldan1796=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Dishwasher top loading
Joerg Esdorn
Hi Paul, this is the unit Amel installs now. BOSCH SKT 5102. Let me know how you like it!!
joerg Esdorn A55#53 Kincsem currently in Sevilla
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Reckman EF90 Genoa furler
Aldo Roldan
Question for the group. What is the size of the Reckman EF90 Genoa electric furler in the AMEL 55? I have been told it would be either a 2 or a 3, but which one? Aldo AMEL 55 Hull 36
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals
eric freedman
Hi Kent, Thanks Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:33 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals
I ordered from Amel, I haven’t received it yet, but Maud had several kinds. I described what was originally installed and she said she’d send what appears to be the same. It’s a D with all the walls the same, about 5mm thick all the way. She didn’t know anything about the cylindrical piece that was described as placed into the D seals at the corners, and said they don’t have anything like that.
When I get it, I’ll take some pics and try to describe the material and compressibility. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM243
Hi Kent, What gasket did you find for this job? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best,
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals
I ordered from Amel, I haven’t received it yet, but Maud had several kinds. I described what was originally installed and she said she’d send what appears to be the same. It’s a D with all the walls the same, about 5mm thick all the way. She didn’t know anything about the cylindrical piece that was described as placed into the D seals at the corners, and said they don’t have anything like that.
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When I get it, I’ll take some pics and try to describe the material and compressibility. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM243
On Sep 12, 2019, at 8:38 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, What gasket did you find for this job? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best,
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals
eric freedman
Hi Kent, What gasket did you find for this job? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best,
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
eric freedman
Hi, There are a number of insertion rubbers available made of different rubbers. What type did you use? What thickness did you use for the diaphragm and the flapper valves? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:45 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Hi, in the absence of a kit to hand I made copies of the flap valves out of thick insertion rubber. This a fibre reinforced rubber sheet. I found the replacements tended to take a curve and not seal well. I got about 5 years out of the ones I made. I have just installed a new diaphragm I made out of a suitable thickness insertion rubber sheet. I punched the centre hole, put it on the shaft, closed the pump on to it, held it there while I drilled the holes. Then bolted it up and trimmed around to outer size. Working well. I made a second while I was at it to put in spares. I have been carrying the insertion rubber sheet as spare for some years. If I get premature failure (which I doubt) Ill buy the replacement I could have bought one first up but I enjoy the process. Cruising again at last. At Volivoli, Viti Vevu Fiji. Had two magnificent dives with Wananuva dive this morning. Wow. Danny SM299 Ocean pearl Regards Danny
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Dishwasher top loading
hello all, I’m wanting to install a top loading dishwasher back into the counter space of my 55 and would like to know what is the best model and the experience that other owners have had with the installation and reliability, your assistance would be very much appreciated please?
the previous owner had the original machine removed due to unreliability I believe after 4 years of use kind regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17
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Re: AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit
I had too CLIMA units that were noisey which was only the fan unit vibrating and rattling, I used some gentle persuading to some areas of the frame which stopped the issue, they all run acceptably quiet now
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Regards Paul - Fortuna II A55/17
On 11 Sep 2019, at 11:19 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi, in the absence of a kit to hand I made copies of the flap valves out of thick insertion rubber. This a fibre reinforced rubber sheet. I found the replacements tended to take a curve and not seal well. I got about 5 years out of the ones I made. I have just installed a new diaphragm I made out of a suitable thickness insertion rubber sheet. I punched the centre hole, put it on the shaft, closed the pump on to it, held it there while I drilled the holes. Then bolted it up and trimmed around to outer size. Working well. I made a second while I was at it to put in spares. I have been carrying the insertion rubber sheet as spare for some years. If I get premature failure (which I doubt) Ill buy the replacement I could have bought one first up but I enjoy the process. Cruising again at last. At Volivoli, Viti Vevu Fiji. Had two magnificent dives with Wananuva dive this morning. Wow. Danny SM299 Ocean pearl Regards Danny
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Re: AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit
Jose, It is at least a very big job, and possibly almost impossible job. The size of the remote chiller blower unit is smaller than a typical drop-in Climma Compact unit, and the saltwater condenser plumbing throughout the 55 does not exist. It is only in the engine room. I recommend that you exhaust other means of sound reduction. I have been on several 55s and I did not notice loud sounds...maybe something is wrong. I hope this helps. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:13 PM Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:
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AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit
Jose Alegria
The CLIMA® unit systems of my Amell 55 - 2012 are inefficient and very noisy.
Someone in the group has experience with replacing to a central schiller system. All imputes are welcome
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Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Alan Grayson
Perfect, thank you
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Alan From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Roque <ediroque@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2019 7:55:41 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit Alan
I recently bought from Amel. The rubber valve is a reinforced new version ( see pic)
2 [03219] CLAPET ASPIRATION POMPE HENDERSON 72621/ Rubber valve for electric bilge pump E$17,42 each 34,84 plus VAT Rgds
Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty
Em qua, 11 de set de 2019 às 16:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
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Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Roque
Alan I recently bought from Amel. The rubber valve is a reinforced new version ( see pic) 2 [03219] CLAPET ASPIRATION POMPE HENDERSON 72621/ Rubber valve for electric bilge pump E$17,42 each 34,84 plus VAT Rgds Roque Attika A54 117 Paraty Em qua, 11 de set de 2019 às 16:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
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Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Amel - sav@... recently had them for the Marina ZZ TF Marine makes an identical pump. It is either number TM-50 or TM-70...not sure. I cannot tell you where to find TF Marine spares, except at Amel...Amel replaced the reya pump with TF Marine. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:33 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know where to get the rebuild kits for the Reya Marina ZZ bilge pump. I got on the Reya website but if my translation is right they do not sell to individuals and a google search under their part numbers has not turned up any suppliers.
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Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit
Alan Grayson
Hi All, Does anyone know where to get the rebuild kits for the Reya Marina ZZ bilge pump. I got on the Reya website but if my translation is right they do not sell to individuals and a google search under their part numbers has not turned up any suppliers.
Regards Alan Grayson SM 406 Ora Pai St Michaels, MD
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