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Re: Mast foot rubber seal pad

Roque
 

Hi Ruedi

If the leak you are worried about is water getting inside the boat, then don’t. This pad is not intended to seal that.

It is made out of PU (polyurethane), 90 SH (“hardness”), 5 mm thick. Several A54 reported a short life span of this material. Mine was paper thin after 8 years. The Mizzen pad usually holds longer.

I have discussed this with a few experienced Amel owners and with a very knowledgeable Naval Engineer who build boats over 100 ft. and it seems that replacing it with phenolic laminated (such as Tufnol), would be an improvement. It is a little harder (103 SH), though. 

Regarding Amel statement that “Even if it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, I would only add that, as it gets thinner and thinner, you have to check and adjust the standing rigging. 

Enjoy Sicily

Roque

Attika A54 117

Paraty- Rio de Janeiro


Em qua, 18 de set de 2019 às 06:48, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> escreveu:

Hi Folks 

The mast foot rubber pad on my boat is quite brown and very brittle. I’m a bit nervous that it will leak one day (see pictures). 

I heard from Barry “Lady Penelope II” that he changed the Mast-Foot Rubber Pad in Hieres recently. 

 

I asked AMEL and got the answer that they haven’t done it very often and I should not worry about it. “Even it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, Amel said. In Hieres they did it first time 2 weeks ago with “Lady Penelope II”. Barry mentioned the rubber was like fluid and I’m confused about the answers from AMEL. 

What is your experience and who has done it on their SM or 54 over the years? 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards

Ruedi 

 

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Sicily
Re: Amel OEM Rigging

Gerhard Mueller
 

I just get new shrouds here in Kalamata, Greece, manufactured by a shop in Athen, Greece and fitted by the sailmaker here. For the Sharki the total is 2800,- Euro.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece
Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Gerhard Mueller
 

Dennis is correct.
No problem to order a machine shop for a new disk. Often the pin is still OK.
I have changed all disks.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece
Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Jeremy,

I had a failure just like yours and it was no problem and not very expensive to have a machine shop produce a new disk and pin.

Dennis
Libertad
Maramu #121
Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Matt Salatino
 

Don Green has a business of making sheaves and rebuilding Genoa cars and blocks.
You can find him on FaceBook and the Sailing and Cruising Page.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Sep 18, 2019, at 1:37 AM, christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy@...> wrote:

Good day to you,
Try rigrite.com (Rig-rite Inc.)
They are the experts on vintage rigging (goiot incld) & their catalog is well documented.
I need to replace my travelers also & will send them a request.
Good hunting
Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet


Le mer., sept. 18, 2019 à 2:28, mr_hermanns
<jeremy@...> a écrit :
Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!
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--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA
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Re: Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hi Ruedi,

The best is to fix it, but if you fix it it MUST be without any gap (possibility that the rude can move) ... else do not fix it ...

JLMERTZ

CottonBay


Le 18/09/2019 à 11:52, Rudolf Waldispuehl a écrit :

Dear Amel'ias

I’m curious about experience with tie on the steering wheel and maybe someone has a proven technical answer. 

When I’m on Anchor or in a Marina I always fix/tie the steering wheel in the cockpit with a rope. After this summer in many anchorages with some swell I was not sure anymore if these is the right solution. 

 

Always when small waves hitting the rudder the wheel tried to turn in one or other direction and there is a noticeable noise (little dong) on the cables. 

When I was loosing the rope then the noise was notable under the aft bed because the Autopilot linear drive gear is moving and made noise.   

I’m now quite unsecure which option is the better, -  fix the wheel or let it move around?  Both ways are working on either AP Linear drive and/or steering cables. 

 

Would be the best option to make a fix/tie on the rudder quadrant to stop moving? Has someone done it?
What is your experience and long-term observations? 

 

Thanks for your thought and best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55


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Re: Amel OEM Rigging

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hi,

In France with our President Emmanuel Macron we are Champion in the World for Taxes and Taxes and Taxes !



Le 18/09/2019 à 11:51, Eric Meury a écrit :
hello.

I just got the quote for new rigging from ACMO.  Background.  my boat is an Amel Santorin. Ketch.  Boat is in Georgia USA.  The quote i received is for 6197 Euro for the parts plus     684 TPF  (some sort of france tax) and then another 1400 for shipping.

I have no idea what TPF is but google says it is some sort of transfer of ownership of Realestate?  and 1400 seems a bit high for shipping?  Thoughts.  

Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com

Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Dear Amel'ias

I’m curious about experience with tie on the steering wheel and maybe someone has a proven technical answer. 

When I’m on Anchor or in a Marina I always fix/tie the steering wheel in the cockpit with a rope. After this summer in many anchorages with some swell I was not sure anymore if these is the right solution. 

 

Always when small waves hitting the rudder the wheel tried to turn in one or other direction and there is a noticeable noise (little dong) on the cables. 

When I was loosing the rope then the noise was notable under the aft bed because the Autopilot linear drive gear is moving and made noise.   

I’m now quite unsecure which option is the better, -  fix the wheel or let it move around?  Both ways are working on either AP Linear drive and/or steering cables. 

 

Would be the best option to make a fix/tie on the rudder quadrant to stop moving? Has someone done it?
What is your experience and long-term observations? 

 

Thanks for your thought and best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55
Amel OEM Rigging

Eric Meury
 

hello.

I just got the quote for new rigging from ACMO.  Background.  my boat is an Amel Santorin. Ketch.  Boat is in Georgia USA.  The quote i received is for 6197 Euro for the parts plus     684 TPF  (some sort of france tax) and then another 1400 for shipping.

I have no idea what TPF is but google says it is some sort of transfer of ownership of Realestate?  and 1400 seems a bit high for shipping?  Thoughts.  
Mast foot rubber seal pad

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Folks 

The mast foot rubber pad on my boat is quite brown and very brittle. I’m a bit nervous that it will leak one day (see pictures). 

I heard from Barry “Lady Penelope II” that he changed the Mast-Foot Rubber Pad in Hieres recently. 

 

I asked AMEL and got the answer that they haven’t done it very often and I should not worry about it. “Even it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, Amel said. In Hieres they did it first time 2 weeks ago with “Lady Penelope II”. Barry mentioned the rubber was like fluid and I’m confused about the answers from AMEL. 

What is your experience and who has done it on their SM or 54 over the years? 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards

Ruedi 

 

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Sicily
Bow Thruster

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hello 
I lost the bottom of my bow thruster on my Sm 2000
Why I don't know. I am currently in Berlin and would like to make a new one. I will be back in Tahiti on the 30. Can someone tell me the dimensions and the angle of the bottom?
Fair Winds 
Heinz 
QUETZAL, Sm 2000, 292
Re :[AmelYachtOwners] OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good day to you,
Try rigrite.com (Rig-rite Inc.)
They are the experts on vintage rigging (goiot incld) & their catalog is well documented.
I need to replace my travelers also & will send them a request.
Good hunting
Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet


Le mer., sept. 18, 2019 à 2:28, mr_hermanns
<jeremy@...> a écrit :
Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!

--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA

Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Jeremie ,
I is from Goiot , i look for some 10 yaers ago for my Amel Eiros 39 but it was for me not possible to find .

Good luck Elja
SM Balu


Von meinem iPhone gesendet
OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Jer hermanns
 

Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!

--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA
Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thank you Olivier, I appreciate your knowledgeable input.

Kind Regards

Danny

On 18 September 2019 at 01:21 "Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io" <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Danny,

the type of locking pin you have is bolted into the aluminum sheave. The hole in the aluminum is tapped and the stainless steel unit is threaded. It is originally mounted with hard LOCTITE thread compound, and a nylon washer on top of the aluminum.
Ther is no nut at the backside of the pulley. You will certainly need to heat the area of the threaded part. You should use a small portable LPG welding tool in order not to heat the pulley too much (and damage the paint around).
Once removed, you should be able to drill a new hole for the pin. Try to make it 1 mm wider than the pin, and put some silicone grease or some sticky anti-corrosion stuff to avoid stainless steel from damaging the aluminum drive plate (the new hole will not be anodized).

Good luck.

Olivier


 


 
Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

CW Bill Rouse
 

You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer <olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445
Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Olivier Beaute
 

Hello Danny,

the type of locking pin you have is bolted into the aluminum sheave. The hole in the aluminum is tapped and the stainless steel unit is threaded. It is originally mounted with hard LOCTITE thread compound, and a nylon washer on top of the aluminum.
Ther is no nut at the backside of the pulley. You will certainly need to heat the area of the threaded part. You should use a small portable LPG welding tool in order not to heat the pulley too much (and damage the paint around).
Once removed, you should be able to drill a new hole for the pin. Try to make it 1 mm wider than the pin, and put some silicone grease or some sticky anti-corrosion stuff to avoid stainless steel from damaging the aluminum drive plate (the new hole will not be anodized).

Good luck.

Olivier
Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Matt Salatino
 

I believe they use crushed walnut shells as the medium, not sand. Whatever it is, isn’t abrasive enough to penetrate the gelcoat. Careful selection of blasting media is important.......or you’re right, you could damage the hull.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Thank you Nick, Matt Arlo, Bill and Mark for your advice.. 
Ruedi 
WASABI 
AML 54-055
Syracus (Sicily)

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Hi Ruedi,
In my opinion soda blasting is great at removing old paint and leaving a perfect surface for epoxy primer; so long as the operator knows what he is doing...
That is a big caveat. 
In the wrong hands the gelcoat can be damaged such that it will require some filling and fairing.
Perhaps you can see a sample of the work.
Sand and grit blasting are more aggressive and best avoided.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019
Kefalonia

On 16 Sep 2019, at 18:22, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Why don't you ask Amel?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 11:46 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Looking for opinions from the AMEL Group about Soda Blasting

 

Because I don’t’ know the history of the last 12 years on WASABI what was below the recent AF, how many layer of AF etc. I have in mind to sand down all the old layers. Before I bought my beloved AMEL I owned an Aluminum Boat and treatment of underwater where different.  I got an offer from MANOEL Yacht Yard in Malta to remove old paint with Soda Blasting of the underwater GPR Area. 

I don’t know this process and asking the group of their knowledge and how good/bad it is for the undelaying Gelcoat? 

Is there anything to be aware or specific care to know when doing Soda Blasting?

I know from reading that sandblasting can damage the gel-coat, is Soda Blasting same or less invasive for the hull? 

 

Best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Duane,

it would seem the later models had a different set up from mine at model 299. My emergency pulley is in one piece so not possible to separate it. Likewise different to Alan's in that there is not a nut securing the pin mechanism from below. The screwdriver slot on yours, did that unscrew the mechanism, if so perhaps the hex on the top of mine will do the same. In any event I don't have the easy access to the bottom plate you and Alan have. If I can get the mechanism out I believe my plan to drill a new hole in the plate by accessing through the hole for the mechanism will be an easy fix. Much easier than taking the foil down.

Olivier could you weigh in here. Do you know if the pin mechanism on 299 would be screwed in? See photo on my previous post.

Thanks all

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 17 September 2019 at 18:10 "Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io" <carlylelk@...> wrote:

Danny,

I had to do the same problem two years ago.  You need to remove the emergency rope furler from the foil.  On my boat (SM#477) it comes off in two halves, one on each side of the foil.  The pin is captive to the rope furler, it has a slot for a screwdriver on the bottom side.  I removed it and then had another one fabricated that was slightly longer.  I then ground the hole in the drive plate (that had been "scooped" out by the pin) so it had square edges to the top and bottom of the plate.  Reassemble and all was well.'

Duane 
Wanderer, SM#477
Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Thank you Nick, Matt Arlo, Bill and Mark for your advice.. 
Ruedi 
WASABI 
AML 54-055
Syracus (Sicily)

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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Hi Ruedi,
In my opinion soda blasting is great at removing old paint and leaving a perfect surface for epoxy primer; so long as the operator knows what he is doing...
That is a big caveat. 
In the wrong hands the gelcoat can be damaged such that it will require some filling and fairing.
Perhaps you can see a sample of the work.
Sand and grit blasting are more aggressive and best avoided.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019
Kefalonia

On 16 Sep 2019, at 18:22, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Why don't you ask Amel?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 11:46 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Looking for opinions from the AMEL Group about Soda Blasting

 

Because I don’t’ know the history of the last 12 years on WASABI what was below the recent AF, how many layer of AF etc. I have in mind to sand down all the old layers. Before I bought my beloved AMEL I owned an Aluminum Boat and treatment of underwater where different.  I got an offer from MANOEL Yacht Yard in Malta to remove old paint with Soda Blasting of the underwater GPR Area. 

I don’t know this process and asking the group of their knowledge and how good/bad it is for the undelaying Gelcoat? 

Is there anything to be aware or specific care to know when doing Soda Blasting?

I know from reading that sandblasting can damage the gel-coat, is Soda Blasting same or less invasive for the hull? 

 

Best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55
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