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Autopilot

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Dear Amelians,
I see some black dust that seems to come from the cylinder of the autopilot (see pic). How concerned should I be? Is it something serious that needs to be repaired immediately or is it just normal to have this sort of dust?
Thanks for your advice,
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
Amel54#15


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

Yes, I'll dinghy over. I have a few extra, what I believe to be SM spare parts that I can bring. Previous owner, who also owned a SM prior, left them aboard.

Free to anyone who wants them. 
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

 

Jeroen,

Pantaenius has apparently inserted a clause that gives them complete wiggle room to not pay an electronics claim because they do not list a type of system, or approved systems. In fact, there are no systems that will always protect electronics from the electromagnetic surge caused by some lightning.  My guess is that even if you used what Olivier Beaute suggests, the insurance company can easily say that it was not adequate protection, because damage to onboard electronics occurred, and that is proof that your system was not adequate. Regarding Olivier Beaute, there is not a better surveyor in the world and I only recommend Olivier.

If it were me, I would ask Pantaenius if they approve the Forespar Lightning Master Static Dissipater (photo below), which you can buy for about 150€. If this is approved by them, please let us all know and install it for this reason: "You will have insurance when lightning strikes and damages your electronics." If they do not approve this Forespar item, ask them specifically what they approve. If you know a Catholic Priest, he will have a blessing to protect your boat from lightning strikes (Yes, they really do). And, lastly, between you and me, the priest's blessing will work slightly better than the Forespar Lightning Master Static Dissipater.
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--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:43 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Matt
This was 2 years ago since then they have changed their restrictions in the Caribbean so much for hurricane protection that I have changed to Novamar
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Courtney,
When did this happen.
I’m shopping for insurance for our new Amel, and was steered away from Pantaenius USA by many....
Thanks,

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

When I first bought Trippin we had a near lightning strike not direct but close enough other boats in the Marina were affected Pantaenius US was my carrier and covered Most of the costs upward of $17,000 and were very easy to work with.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada 


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .

Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. 

We are owner of Fidelis  A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018.

We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience.

Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations,  yet..

On the policy( september 2019)  is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by

lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage !

The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage  by lighting strike ?

Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ?

comment welcome.

Jeroen Jeltes

sv Fidelis A54


Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Bill, my remark was a joke

Danny

On 08 October 2019 at 08:53 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Danny,

The water is not in the keel on a 55.


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
     
 


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

I'm shocked, amel has abandoned its high tech floating rod.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 07 October 2019 at 06:32 Paul Brown < feeder.brown@...> wrote:

On my 55/17 it is above the fuel gauge on the 24v panel at the captains table

Regards Paul - Fortuna II

 

On 6 Oct 2019, at 1:16 am, Stuart Hemingway < stuart@...> wrote:

Can anyone advise please where to find the water gauge in an Amel 55

 

Stuart

 

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

 

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

 

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

 


 


 

 

 


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi,

We don’t cool the fridge with fresh water. We thought of doing it but then abandoned the idea for a number of reasons. However I’m puzzled about your comment, can you give more details?

Thanks for the tip on the up2a pump!

Best,

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 09:21, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Soraya,

I can say that the March Brushless won't work if you're cooling the fridges with fresh water. I switched to a Marco UP2A pump as you can replace the brushes/seals for cheap and they seem to meet my requirements: low draw and 4L per minute at 12v.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Spurs linecutter

 

Wolfgang,

Spurs B 1 ½ "

 

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 6:53 AM Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello to the group,
I would like to  buy a service-kit for the spurs linecutter for Amel 54.
Does anyone know the size or partnumber ?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada

 

Danny,

The water is not in the keel on a 55.


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I'm shocked, amel has abandoned its high tech floating rod.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 07 October 2019 at 06:32 Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

On my 55/17 it is above the fuel gauge on the 24v panel at the captains table

Regards Paul - Fortuna II

 

On 6 Oct 2019, at 1:16 am, Stuart Hemingway < stuart@...> wrote:

Can anyone advise please where to find the water gauge in an Amel 55

 

Stuart

 

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

 

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

 

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

 


 


 


Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)

Sv Garulfo
 


It disconnects the batteries altogether. There is ‘only’ one pair of poles on the battery. I’ve seen lithium setups where the loads and the chargers were on separate pairs of poles. If that is your case, i guess you could put the relay on whichever pair is appropriate. 

On a side note to follow up on the 90%SOC management in the MasterVolt set up, i programmed the ‘battery full’ event to put the MPPT in float state, where it feeds amps as per the load requirement and only drips a few amps into the batteries. 
It does not seem to go back to ‘bulk’ if the SOC drops back below the ‘battery full’ level, bit it would based on the “return to bulk” voltage. The next day it automatically switches back on with daylight in bulk mode. 

I also set the Alpha Pro alternator regulator charging mode to “suspended” upon the ‘battery full’ event. Again it does not fall back to charging below that level, so I created a button to turn the charging ON/OFF manually. 
I need to test what the float mode of the alternator does to see if that’s a better state. 

I haven’t tried the battery charger yet but I guess i would just set it on float state and it should just feed the loads and keep the batteries at 90%SOC, for instance for long term on shore power. 


Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Fakarava, French Polynesia 


On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 09:29, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Thomas,

Do your ML7720B disconnects completely disconnect the battery? I would like to simply disconnect the loads,  but allow the charging circuits to remain intact as our Victron VE.BMS has separate triggers to cutoff charging (overvoltage or over temperature) and load (under voltage). 

I talked to Victron about using three BP220 load disconnects, one for each battery, but two problems arose: (1) the BP220 is not bidirectional with respect to current and (2) I don't want to disconnect the battery, just the load.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Mike Ondra
 

Great. You have transport from Weems Creek?

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 3:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

Mike,

I'm keen to join the maintenance/repair get together on your boat. Thanks for hosting it!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
Currently anchored at Weems Creek, MD
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thomas,

Do your ML7720B disconnects completely disconnect the battery? I would like to simply disconnect the loads,  but allow the charging circuits to remain intact as our Victron VE.BMS has separate triggers to cutoff charging (overvoltage or over temperature) and load (under voltage). 

I talked to Victron about using three BP220 load disconnects, one for each battery, but two problems arose: (1) the BP220 is not bidirectional with respect to current and (2) I don't want to disconnect the battery, just the load.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Scott SV Tengah
 
Edited

Soraya,

I can say that the March Brushless won't work if you're cooling the fridges with fresh water. I switched to a Marco UP2A (Correction: UP2-P) pump as you can replace the brushes/seals for cheap and they seem to meet my requirements: low draw and 4L per minute at 12v.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

Mike,

I'm keen to join the maintenance/repair get together on your boat. Thanks for hosting it!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
Currently anchored at Weems Creek, MD
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Polar Files for Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

Alex,

I can't remember where I got this from and haven't verified the accuracy, but here ya go.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Mike Ondra
 

I checked with Davis’ Pub (Eastport) for Thursday evening. They do not take reservations but said they are not too busy between 5:00 and 6:00 so seating for 10 or so should not be a problem. Let’s shoot for 5:30. Alan and Kent/Iris have expressed interest in dinner. All are welcome aboard Aletes earlier in the afternoon to talk about the exciting topic of Amel maintenance.  Please confirm attendance at either event. Looking forward it!

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

From: Mike Ondra <mdondra@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:08 AM
To: 'main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io' <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

For the maintenance/repairs “forum” (sounds way too formal) I have RSVP’s so far from Jay Pokorski and Charles (SV Saturn). We’ll meet on Aletes (anchored at the mouth of Back  Creek…unless weather pushes an alternative anchorage…will advise) at 2:00 Thursday afternoon. Anyone land based or dinghy deprived that wants to attend let us know and we can arrange a pickup. Anyone is welcome to join us for beverages and dinner afterwards at Davis’ Pub.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:51 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

Aletes would like to host an Amel maintenance/repair forum on board either Thurs or Friday afternoon of Boat Show week. The idea would be to share everyone’s experiences with some of the unique equipment on our vessels.

 

Possible topics, and please add to the list, might include:

Bow Thrusters, furling gearboxes (motorized and manual), battery strategies, deck finish (restoration and striping), anti-fouling, hard-won lessons and other tricks.

 

We’ll do it if there is interest, so let me know which day and additional topics. Bring your issues and get the insights of others.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay


Re: Companionway screen

Ric <ric@...>
 

May I chime in? I have a 2 roll up companionway covers. One is a blackout cover that  snaps on & rolls down to allow crew to turn on lights  below without the loss of night vision for watch. The other.is a roll down screen that snaps in place at top. Both 1 piece and rolls up for easy storage. Screen has cloth edges for snaps & weights at bottom. 
Bali Hai Annapolis 
Currently for sale


Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

No employee or agent is authorized to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc without express written confirmation by a Officer of the Corporation

On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Companionway screen

karkauai
 

Thanks Mark

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Companionway screen

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

We had a stay sail installed a few years ago in Turkey. Olivier had a look t it and had nothing negative to say about the installation. However the cut on the jib it self was not good. This year when our heard sail swivel broke down, it was a great advantage to have the stay sail. The same when our Genoa started to delaminate and falling apart on the way to the Azores, from Bermuda again it was great to have a stay sail. It will save on your genoa who will not need to be deployed in have weather up wind sailing. I do not find the stay sail to be an obstacle when tacking. First if going up wind we do not tack very often from 30 minutes to maybe 3 hours between the tack. Second we furl in ca 50 % of the Genua during the tack which we did even before we had the stay sail.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu

Thomas Kleman
 

My staysail is not from La Rochelle. However is was installed by Caraibe Greement (just down the dock from Amel in Martinique) per Alban's instructions regarding how it should be done. Very robust bracing and backstays along with the dos and donts of using it.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Gary Wells
 
Edited

*** EDIT***  We have another couple coming to join us so the table is full. :)

Really late in the game here but Robin and I will be able to attend the big event.  Even though the restaurant said their reservations were "maxed out" once I dropped the "Amel" name I got put on hold, then I got told I'd get a call back and in fact they let us have a table at 7:00 P.M.

Better late than never :)

~AND~ it's a table for four so if there is another couple wanting seats let me know and you are welcome to join us. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone!

Gary & Robin

SM 209, Adagio
Galesville, MD