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SM deck maintenance-Polytrol

Thomas Kleman
 

Have not applied Polytrol for about a year and the Panamanian summer was rough on the deck. Amazing how much color fade occurs. I believe there are SM owners out there contemplating repainting who might be surprised at the results of this process. I've only seen it for sale in Dutch and French islands (not an exhaustive search). I have no financial interest in this product but wanted to add to the discussion on deck repainting.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422


Re: Twisted chain - Amel 54

Martin Bevan
 

When Caduceus 54 #56 was new we had a large problem with the galvanised chain twisting and forming knots in the chain locker and jamming in the hawse pipe. This continued despite having a swivel at the anchor end and dropping the chain in deep water many times to take the twists out. Having put up with this for a number of years and some exciting anchoring issues we changed the chain in 2012 in the USA for an “identical” spec chain. We have never had a repeat of the problem. I can only assume that the original AMEL supplies chain was not exactly to standard. 


Re: Gennaker + furler for sale

Paul Brown
 

No problem, I do need a 125sm Gennika for a 55 anyways

Hope to meet up in AU or along the way for sure 

Cheers Paul 


On 9 Oct 2019, at 7:09 pm, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul. It has just been sold.

Perhaps we'll still cross paths in AU/NZ! We plan to be there Nov 2020 or thereabouts.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Twisted chain - Amel 54

karkauai
 

I also have twisted chain after being at anchor all Summer.  The twist makes the chain jump on the gypsy every 5 meters or so.  So the fix is to find deep water and calm seas and let the chain and anchor hang for a while?  I really don’t want to do that on the deck!

Kent Robertson
Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:38 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


You did not state whether you have a swivel, which could account for some of the issue. The other thing that you should take into account is that SS chain will twist easier. The links of galvanized steel are harder to twist because they are not as slippery as SS.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:18 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
Since buying Wilna Grace in July I've been progressively working my way through her, one job being to take out the lovely stainless steel chain and inspect it. What I thought would be a quick job turned into a marathon.  I'd hauled out ~3 deck lengths when I discovered the rest of the chain remaining in the locker was twisted into a massive ball.  Sometime later I'd finally worked the chain onto the deck and had ~1.5 deck lengths of twisted chain.  I'm unclear why this twist should have built up or over what period of time.  Wilna Grace is 12 years old and I have reason to suspect the chain may not have been fully out for some time.

Never had this problem with my Super Maramu. Anyway from now on each year I shall make a point of finding some deep water and letting all the chain out!  Has anyone else experienced this twist problem?

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Re: Gennaker + furler for sale

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks Paul. It has just been sold.

Perhaps we'll still cross paths in AU/NZ! We plan to be there Nov 2020 or thereabouts.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: How to disassemble Nirvana Furling Swivel?

Tom Whitehill
 

Thanks Bill, Alan and Tom Fisher (offline) for your help,

I was able to remove the inner sleeve (my terminology might be not accurate) by soaking the unit in kerosene over-night and using a vise to push it out the 'top' of the outer shell.  'Top' meaning its orientation as it would be if the mast were up.  See pic of swivel in vise and of the separated pieces after the fact (the inner sleeve is top end down in the pic, sorry).

Now, I'm looking at using a 'blind hole bearing puller' to extract the topmost bearing.  I'm not sure how I'll get the bottom bearing out - maybe with a dowel as suggested by Tom F or figure out how to extend the length of the puller.

I've measured the diameters of the bearings so I can get the correct sized bearing puller.

Inner diameter = 1.75 inches = 44.45 millis

Outer = ~2.25 inches ~= 57.15 millis

I'll follow up with more later.  Bottom line at this point (assuming that I can extract the bearings) is:

- disassembling the manual furler gears and getting the swivel out of the mast was pretty easy - the difficulty was figuring out the mystery of how.  I needed only to make a simple home made puller which I'll describe in a follow up post.  But, now that I know how to disassemble, I will have no hesitation doing the same for the main mast swivel.


Re: Twisted chain - Amel 54

 

You did not state whether you have a swivel, which could account for some of the issue. The other thing that you should take into account is that SS chain will twist easier. The links of galvanized steel are harder to twist because they are not as slippery as SS.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:18 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
Since buying Wilna Grace in July I've been progressively working my way through her, one job being to take out the lovely stainless steel chain and inspect it. What I thought would be a quick job turned into a marathon.  I'd hauled out ~3 deck lengths when I discovered the rest of the chain remaining in the locker was twisted into a massive ball.  Sometime later I'd finally worked the chain onto the deck and had ~1.5 deck lengths of twisted chain.  I'm unclear why this twist should have built up or over what period of time.  Wilna Grace is 12 years old and I have reason to suspect the chain may not have been fully out for some time.

Never had this problem with my Super Maramu. Anyway from now on each year I shall make a point of finding some deep water and letting all the chain out!  Has anyone else experienced this twist problem?


Re: Standing rigging - France

Orion Martin
 

Congratulations to you. I am in the market for an SM and looked at Nunky a few times online. The deck looks simply amazing for her age, (redone in recent times perhaps?) and attention to detail was noticeable throughout the photos. May she keep you safe and happy:)


Re: SM Bow thruster wiring diagram?

Mark McGovern
 

Does the PCB in the control box look like the one in the picture below:





--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Standing rigging - France

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Mark;

 

I second Bill’s remarks. Nicky has replaced rigging and performed other work on Kokomo. He is as conscientious and fast, as they come. I would highly recommend him.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 7:21 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Standing rigging - France

 

Mark,

 

I am very happy that this worked out for you.

 

I have a Preferred Vendor in Malta who often travels Europe to install rigging. I highly recommend that you contact Nicky Sammut to install your ACMO rigging:

Nicky’s Rigging & Marine Services
Mobile +356 79271668
Email. nickysail"at"hotmail.com

ACMO is a recommended Preferred Vendor and will give you a discount. Be sure to share that quote with me to insure the discount.

 

Nicky has replaced ACMO rigging with ACMO kits on many SMs and 54s. He has also replaced Bamar Furlers on 54s with new generation Bamar and with Reckman furlers. I can assure you that you will not find a better rigger anywhere. He routinely works in Malta at Manoel Island Yacht Yard, which is also a Preferred Vendor and a great yard to haulot. Be sure to tell these Preferred Vendors that you are a client of mine in order to receive your discount.

Manoel Island Yacht Yard
Gzira GZR 3013,
Malta – Europe
General Email: info"at"yachtyard-malta.com Phone: (+356) 2133 4453/4 also Andrew Wilson <AWilson"at"yachtyard-malta.com>

 

If you haulout at Manoel, be sure to have antifouling and polishing applied by Alex and his uncle: Contact for Alex is ‎boatcarealex"at"gmail.com
‎Mobile Phone +356 9942 9724. They are fabulous. Tell Alex that you are a client.

 

Bill
--

CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:16 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi Mark , 

 

Welcome to the Amel world . We used the riggers recommended by Amel’s Hyeres office . They really know their stuff . Can’t remember the name of the company but a call to Sonja in that office will direct you to them . 

 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Serifos 


On 9 Oct 2019, at 15:34, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

We are now the very proud new owners of Nunky which is SM110 from 1993. 

Despite her age Nunky is in incredible condition due to the care her former owner lavished on her. As an example, he would only wear white below decks.

Anyway, the only major work required is replacement of the standing rigging. I have a quote for the rigging from ACMO but I need a rigger in The South of France. Nunky is currently in Golfe Juan for the winter.

If anyone can recommend a rigger I would be very grateful. 

Many thanks


Twisted chain - Amel 54

David Crisp
 

Since buying Wilna Grace in July I've been progressively working my way through her, one job being to take out the lovely stainless steel chain and inspect it. What I thought would be a quick job turned into a marathon.  I'd hauled out ~3 deck lengths when I discovered the rest of the chain remaining in the locker was twisted into a massive ball.  Sometime later I'd finally worked the chain onto the deck and had ~1.5 deck lengths of twisted chain.  I'm unclear why this twist should have built up or over what period of time.  Wilna Grace is 12 years old and I have reason to suspect the chain may not have been fully out for some time.

Never had this problem with my Super Maramu. Anyway from now on each year I shall make a point of finding some deep water and letting all the chain out!  Has anyone else experienced this twist problem?


Re: Standing rigging - France

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Mark and Congratulations - 
Suggest you do it yourself for 3 reasons: you'll do it right, you'll learn your rigging, you'll have fun. Oh, and you'll save money.
FWIW,
Craig


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Rob Hughes
 

Michele and I will be there Friday night as well.


Re: How to disassemble Nirvana Furling Swivel?

 

Tom,

I am not 100% sure, but I believe the swivel balls, which encircle the swivel internally also hold the swivel halves together. Inside the top or bottom of the swivel you will find a plug of some sort, which when removed, you can remove the balls and separate the halves. 

Please let me know if this helps.


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 2:45 PM Tom Whitehill <whitehillrei@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to the forum and am excited to be part of the community.
Current Challenge: The Nirvana Mizzen manual furler Swivel on our 1984 Amel Sharki was frozen when we bought her.
I've extracted the swivel from the mast and am now looking for advice/guidance on how to disassemble it so that I can replace bearings, etc.
I've attached some pics of the Swivel for your reference.
Your ideas would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Tom


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Oliver,

That is clever. It solves the problem of brushes and shaft seals in one go. Do you keep spares for the pump mechanism and for the motor/controller?
What did you to to replace the pump-switch?

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Standing rigging - France

Mark Garver <mgarver@...>
 

Congratulations Mark! Our SM, It's Good is #105 also from 1993 and we love her, she has been very good to us. Welcome to the family, or the cult! :)

Mark and Jennifer Garver
SV It's Good
SM #105

On October 9, 2019 at 8:34 AM, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

We are now the very proud new owners of Nunky which is SM110 from 1993. 

Despite her age Nunky is in incredible condition due to the care her former owner lavished on her. As an example, he would only wear white below decks.

Anyway, the only major work required is replacement of the standing rigging. I have a quote for the rigging from ACMO but I need a rigger in The South of France. Nunky is currently in Golfe Juan for the winter.

If anyone can recommend a rigger I would be very grateful. 

Many thanks




Re: Standing rigging - France

 

Mark,

I am very happy that this worked out for you.

I have a Preferred Vendor in Malta who often travels Europe to install rigging. I highly recommend that you contact Nicky Sammut to install your ACMO rigging:
Nicky’s Rigging & Marine Services
Mobile +356 79271668
Email. nickysail"at"hotmail.com
ACMO is a recommended Preferred Vendor and will give you a discount. Be sure to share that quote with me to insure the discount.

Nicky has replaced ACMO rigging with ACMO kits on many SMs and 54s. He has also replaced Bamar Furlers on 54s with new generation Bamar and with Reckman furlers. I can assure you that you will not find a better rigger anywhere. He routinely works in Malta at Manoel Island Yacht Yard, which is also a Preferred Vendor and a great yard to haulot. Be sure to tell these Preferred Vendors that you are a client of mine in order to receive your discount.
Manoel Island Yacht Yard
Gzira GZR 3013,
Malta – Europe
General Email: info"at"yachtyard-malta.com Phone: (+356) 2133 4453/4 also Andrew Wilson <AWilson"at"yachtyard-malta.com>

If you haulout at Manoel, be sure to have antifouling and polishing applied by Alex and his uncle: Contact for Alex is ‎boatcarealex"at"gmail.com
‎Mobile Phone +356 9942 9724. They are fabulous. Tell Alex that you are a client.

Bill
--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:16 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hi Mark , 

Welcome to the Amel world . We used the riggers recommended by Amel’s Hyeres office . They really know their stuff . Can’t remember the name of the company but a call to Sonja in that office will direct you to them . 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Serifos 


On 9 Oct 2019, at 15:34, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

We are now the very proud new owners of Nunky which is SM110 from 1993. 

Despite her age Nunky is in incredible condition due to the care her former owner lavished on her. As an example, he would only wear white below decks.

Anyway, the only major work required is replacement of the standing rigging. I have a quote for the rigging from ACMO but I need a rigger in The South of France. Nunky is currently in Golfe Juan for the winter.

If anyone can recommend a rigger I would be very grateful. 

Many thanks


Re: SM Bow thruster wiring diagram?

 

Andrew, he probably has the older version.

Eamonn,

There is a micro switch inside the control box which should be controlled by the rod and attached arm.

Here is a photo of part of a page from my Amel Book that might help. My guess is that the new arm was fabricated incorrectly, or the micro switch is not working.
image.png


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 7:57 AM Andrew & Kate Lamb <andrew.lamb@...> wrote:

Hi

 

This is the diagram I have

 

Andrew

SM472

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eamonn Washington
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:41 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM Bow thruster wiring diagram?

 

Hi

our bow thruster suddenly decided it would not  come up. The electric motor was fine, everything was connected.  I got a local mechanic to come in and he repaired the bow thruster in his workshop.  He said that there was a rod about 20cm long with a screw thread that had completely worn out, so he made a new screw thread.

The problem appears now to be that he made the new thread the wrong way around.  We figured out by experimentation that if we switched wires 3 and 6 in the little control box that the bow thruster up and down movement worked perfectly.  However the sideways movement stopped working, so that is no good.

Does anyone know the wiring diagram of this little control box in the fore cabin on the bow thruster?  I would love to be able to fix it by swapping around a couple of wires rather than waiting  a few days for a new part to be made or waiting for a delivery from Amel (if they  have it).

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.


Re: SM Bow thruster wiring diagram?

Eamonn Washington
 

Hi thanks for the diagram.  It does not show the numbered wires in the box, but it might help.  I also contacted Amel to see if they can provide the correct jack screw.

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Matt Salatino
 

Mangia, right?
Friday?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 9, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32@...> wrote:

Gary, I was able to reserve a table for 16, and 17 signed up for that table  a week or so ago. Since then Aras contacted Mangia and was able to reserve a table for four or six I think , they may hold the top floor for us ,as it is not too big. So I think there will be a seat for every .... 
Funny, when I suggested to another couple of owners to get together for diner ,I expected four to six. It now looks like over 20 . Same thing happened with the Chesapeake  Bay Rendezvous. Birds of a feather ...
See ya there,
Pat & Diane
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells <gary@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Oct 8, 2019 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

[Edited Message Follows]
*** EDIT***  We have another couple coming to join us so the table is full. :)

Really late in the game here but Robin and I will be able to attend the big event.  Even though the restaurant said their reservations were "maxed out" once I dropped the "Amel" name I got put on hold, then I got told I'd get a call back and in fact they let us have a table at 7:00 P.M.
Better late than never :)

~AND~ it's a table for four so if there is another couple wanting seats let me know and you are welcome to join us. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone!

Gary & Robin

SM 209, Adagio
Galesville, MD