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Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

You can get one from Seapower Marine in the UK for £425 + VAT (20%). http://www.seapowermarine.co.uk

 

I have enquired about getting a discount for ordering several, and also to see if the VAT is not applicable for non-UK residents (which I believe should be the case).

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 18 October 2019 06:02
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

 

Mark,

From the local Onan dealer we were quoted $1600, still pretty crazy.

The internal geometry of the part is complex, with a partial water jacket, and they are typically investment cast.  There is a shop that will make the molds, but they need a part to cut open so they can measure and duplicate the internal geometry, and it takes a minimum of 8 weeks. If we could find an old one, we'd start that process while ours is still limping along.  

We were lucky--this time--that the salt water spray from the leaking elbow didn't hit anything fragile or important. It could easily have soaked and destroyed our battery charger, or the electrical end of the generator.  We do not consider JBWeld to be anything other than a very short term emergency repair to be made right as soon as possible, however that is done.




--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: A54 - bow roller hooks

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Thomas, dear Ameliens,

after 3 weeks on the anchor I have to take back my thoughts for the hooks on the bow roller. The rope (for the anchor chain) is now clearly reduced. The diameter of the hooks are to small. You have to take an extra protection or binding the rope a bit to side.
Any other ideas for the hooks?

Best regards
Stefan
A54-119-Lady Charlyette still in Porto Santo


Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Nicolas Klene
 

Hello Everybody
I am please to annonce that since this morning , I am the proud owner of the SM n° 476 ! My first ever boat !
It comes with a broken Climma 9EH AC unit in the salon as suspected  by Olivier during the survey ! 
It might only be the compressor, but a technicien suggested to change it all.
I will look into the Webasto unit 
Bill I wished you lived in the south of France, I have sooo much to lurn  !
Nick
SM.476


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Miles
 

Keran, Mark,

 

If anyone winds up having a genset exhaust elbow made,  I would like to have one also.  Maybe added numbers will reduce the unit cost. 

 

Miles Bidwell

 

s/y Ladybug, sm216 Newport, RI  soon leaving for Martinique


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Karen Smith
 

Mark,

From the local Onan dealer we were quoted $1600, still pretty crazy.

The internal geometry of the part is complex, with a partial water jacket, and they are typically investment cast.  There is a shop that will make the molds, but they need a part to cut open so they can measure and duplicate the internal geometry, and it takes a minimum of 8 weeks. If we could find an old one, we'd start that process while ours is still limping along.  

We were lucky--this time--that the salt water spray from the leaking elbow didn't hit anything fragile or important. It could easily have soaked and destroyed our battery charger, or the electrical end of the generator.  We do not consider JBWeld to be anything other than a very short term emergency repair to be made right as soon as possible, however that is done.





Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Orion,

The exhaust elbow is a relatively complex geometry that also fits into a fairly tight space.  While I am sure replicating it from measurements and sketches alone could be done, the chances of getting something wrong would be pretty high.  Here is a picture of one for reference:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/84403/13?p=Name,,onan,20,1,0,0  

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Companion way for removal

INUS - BUSCH
 

Ian and Judy,
beewax seems to fit good for natural wood, thanks for that.
All the best.
Dieter
Fal-lera Sharki #135

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.10.2019 um 19:01 schrieb ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...>:

Ian and Judy


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Orion Martin
 

Hi Karen,

 Is it possible to temporarily remove it and measure for dimensions? 


Re: mizzen traveller

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Mark
Paul


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

I just looked up the price for a replacement for this part.  US$2,269 is absolutely insane!  I could make them out of 316 Stainless Steel for way less than that.  I have to remove mine this winter for cleaning so I may just design a replacement and put a few extra on the shelf. Unfortunately, that will too late to help you guys out.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: mizzen traveller

Mark McGovern
 

Paul,

The track is Lewmar Size 1.  It would appear that Bill used:

1 x Size 1 End Stop With Single CL Sheave (Lewmar Part # 29471031BK): https://www.lewmar.com/node/13230?v=26088

1 x Size 1 End Stop With Double CL Sheaves (Lewmar Part # 29471032BK):  https://www.lewmar.com/node/13230?v=26089

I am sure Bill will eventually see this post and confirm or correct or you can contact him via email directly at GreatKetch "at" yahoo.com.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: mizzen traveller

Paul Osterberg
 

I have looked at the set up Harmonie did, and might make similar, but I can,t see what make the track is for ordering control block. 
Currently I use a preventer to control the shape and position of the sail, but improvement is needed
Paul


Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54 and SM

Paul Osterberg
 

talked with incidnce sail again, and no problem they will do the foam luff. On my current sail I had no foam luff, but had a rope sewed in and that improved the shape a lot on the genoa when furled. The sailmaker who sewed in the rope said that if one rope was not enough, one could sew in a shorter rope parallel to the first one. Understand that this is old school but it definitely made a big difference.
Paul SY Kerpa SM 259, Lagos


Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Ian Townsend
 

We installed a Webasto 10,000 BTU unit. Note that most other manufacturers do not outwardly state their units are dual cycle (so they don't have to replace parts under warranty). Webasto does. They also have a wide support network and are less expensive. 


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:05 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Bob,

Sorry it is 8k BTU. It works too well.

Dometic model DTU 6k 230 vac 60 hz 410  IT WORKS ON 50 AND 60 hz.

SXM digital display and cxp control cable.

total cost a few years ago was about 2500-.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Ross via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement #replacement

 

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the lead on an almost “plug and play”  idea with Dometic 10.
Can you share some model details?
model number, power, supplier, etc.
Much appreciated
Bob
Nomad Amel Super Maramu #362
Trinidad


Re: mizzen traveller

ngtnewington Newington
 

I have found that one can control the mizzen boom by centring it on the track and using a bang/preventer tackle to the  chain plate either side of the coach roof. So upon tacking or gybing one simply swaps the tackle from one side to the other.
Nick 
Amelia AML 54-019
Kefalonia


On 16 Oct 2019, at 18:18, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Hello!
I'm planning to arrange so that I can control the Mizzen traveller from the cockpit. does anyone now who have made the track? I need to add end "stop" with sheaves. all advice highly appreciated. such as a source for end "stop"

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

eric freedman
 

Hi Bob,

Sorry it is 8k BTU. It works too well.

Dometic model DTU 6k 230 vac 60 hz 410  IT WORKS ON 50 AND 60 hz.

SXM digital display and cxp control cable.

total cost a few years ago was about 2500-.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Ross via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement #replacement

 

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the lead on an almost “plug and play”  idea with Dometic 10.
Can you share some model details?
model number, power, supplier, etc.
Much appreciated
Bob
Nomad Amel Super Maramu #362
Trinidad


Re: Companion way for removal

eric freedman
 

Joel suggested that years ago,

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:56 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Courtney,

 

Good idea. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just a thought as I have no experience in removing the dodger but if you could thread braided fishing line between the dodger and the deck then you could tie 'Handles' to both ends and 'saw' through the caulk with NO risk of damage.  

Cheers

Courtney

Trippin

54 #101

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2019 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

[Edited Message Follows]

Our dodger was, indeed, well bedded to the deck. I'm sure everyone's is - it's the "AMEL Way".  What I did was to VERY carefully, using a fish filleting knife, insert it under the dodger to cut the caulk. That is a CAPITAL LETTERS VERY CAREFULLY! You may come up a better tool but it must be very sharp, very thin and very strong.

First though, I rigged a line to a halyard with some snatch blocks to the mizzen to make it lift straight up from the dodger, then led it through the windshield opening window and applied a LOT of lifting force.  Then I went to the filet knife and started cutting. After a while I saw some movement and then used some chisels as wedges to break the seal more and it finally worked. I had three tiny nicks (about 1/8th inch roundish)  in the deck gelcoat at some places in the base of the dodger where I was not careful enough with the chisel.  I patched them and they are not visible now. This took about 3 hours to do. You should take 4 hours and not nick the gelcoat at all.

Once the dodger popped free it is easy-peasy. There is wire through the deck in the middle of the dodger going to the overhead light but it has enough slack (about 6 inches) so you can easily tilt and swing the dodger to allow the companionway hatch to slide up and out. Re-bedding was very easy. I just used silicone so if I need to take it off again it will be easy, but you can take your pick of bedding compounds.

If I recall correctly, I did this about 2004 and the Plexiglas (Perspex in Europe?) is still in excellent condition. It does have a couple of barely noticeable vertical scratches where I must have been careless with not cleaning off some boatyard grit, but, it's hardly noticeable and hey, we're talking 15 years!. 

The one thing that isn't perfect is that I chose a plexiglass with a very light grey tint that seemed like a good idea at the time.  That's great, as during the day it looks like a black mirror from the outside, giving complete privacy below - at night with lights on below you can see right through, hence the hanging privacy shade. During the day, though, if the hatch is closed and exposed to direct sunlight it heats up and expands such that it binds in the track and is hard to open or close. Just a small annoyance, but if I did it again I might choose totally clear plexiglass and maybe a fraction thinner. Or, and it's one of those "one-of-these-years" things, I might just sand the wood slots a bit wider but, obviously, it's not a big deal. We've got a great "T-Top" over the cockpit so sun on the plexiglass is rare. 

Katherine and I think it is one of the best modifications we made to the boat and we did not do it until we had lived aboard for 5 years, so we did think it out thoroughly. Then, after we did it we hired a psychic who put us in touch with "The Captain" - the psychic said that he was smiling! That's our story and we're stickin' to it!

Cheers, Craig


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

eric freedman
 

Thanks Kent,

The seals and some other stuff should be here tomorrow.

I will install them in the heat of the Caribbean.

Thank you so much !

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 10:56 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

I ordered 20 meters.  It will do bow lockers, port deck locker, aft lazarette, and engine room hatches, with some left over....I hope ;-)>

I’ve done all but the engine room and still have quite a bit left, I’m all but certain it will be enough.

 

Kent

Kristy

SM 243



On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:25 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

How many meters of the gasket material did you order and what hatches will that quantity of

Material repair?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243





On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

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Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Bob Ross
 

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the lead on an almost “plug and play”  idea with Dometic 10.
Can you share some model details?
model number, power, supplier, etc.
Much appreciated
Bob
Nomad Amel Super Maramu #362
Trinidad


Re: Access behind the Eno Stove Oven

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Soraya,

I did this as well. Make sure you remove the stainless guard tube in front before removal. Next use books or whatever to put under the stove to take the weight off the hinges. The gimbal-hinges are just bolts that go right trough the walls adjacent of the stove. You will need a few spanners to remove the in-between-nuts on the bolts.

The biggest problem is the thing is heavy. It may be too heavy for you to take the weight alone and there is not much space to take it with two persons. This is why the weight support is important.
Getting the thing back is trick as you have to align the holes for the bolts and insert nuts between the stove and the adjacent wall.
You may want to replace the flexible hose as well if you can get one. The orange ones normally need to be replaced every 5 years (insurance).

Careful when handling the oven door. I managed to break the glass and had to replace the whole stove in the end. As it looked quite bad anyway it was no great loss.

Regards,

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121