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Re: Ground strap in bilge
The fact that it is only milliamps makes the conductivity very important. Even a slightly bad connection at the keel bolt will make the keel rust. Best to use 3mm flat copper bar to make the best conductor for the bonding system.
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt
Karen Smith
When Bill recently did the timing belt on our engine, he used a good belt tension gauge, and a dial indicator to re-time the injection pump. He also replaced the tension and idler pulleys. They weren't expensive, and are critical bearings that are really easy to change while you have the belt off anyway.
If you look at the shop manual, one of the last steps is to reset the timing of the injection pump. That is an important step that people seem to frequently skip. The camshaft and the crankshaft are locked in place (6mm bolts work as well as the $pecial pin$ from Volvo!) and as you tension the belt, the shaft of the injection pump will rotate--at least a little bit. If you don't reset it, fuel injection timing will be off, and that is a bad thing. Late injection will result in unburned fuel and reduced power, early injection can seriously damage the engine if the fuel ignites significantly before TDC. The adjustment is a little fiddly, but not hard. It might be our imagination, but it sure looks like we accumulate a lot less soot on the hull after this job. Could fine tuning the pump timing have helped with this chronic problem? This is a very important project on these engines. If the belt breaks or gets loose enough to jump a couple cogs the valves and pistons will hit each other and in seconds your engine turns into a very expensive mooring anchor. It's worth doing better than just eyeballing the belt tension, which is really high and quite hard to do by feel.
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Copper wire should work. I still prefer copper bar. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 2:53 PM Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.
Hi Mark,
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No, unfortunately I did not get a manual for the earlier SM’s — as you say it would be very handy to have. The search continues! Best, Mark S/V It’s Good SM #105
On Oct 19, 2019, at 4:58 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Randall Walker
I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.
Glad I joined this group.
And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.
I love my boat,
Randall
A-54 #56
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.
Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and
will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
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Re: Mizzen mast paint.
Patrick McAneny
Paul, I painted my main mast with alwgrip ten yrs. and it was a perfect match. I just sanded it with 320 grit and then roll and tipped it , I did not prime it other than a few spots where I had corrosion. Having the boat repainted this winter due to a 47' cat who drug anchor and hit us at 4:30 am. in Guadeloupe . I will try to determine the paint color and get back ,need to anyway as I plan to paint the mizzen mast and the booms since I will be demasting the boat to go into a shed for painting .
Pat,
SM Shenanigans
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From: John Clark <john.biohead@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2019 9:03 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen mast paint. Hi Paul,
I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store. Check the Forum for my post. Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour?
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Re: Back up tablet navigation aid
I have Furuno Tz as the main system using C map charts. I do all routing on a laptop Interfaced with the Furuno and running the same charts. I’ve come to appreciate Navionics app and charts on my iPad because it often provides additional detail on anchorages. But cmap charts are sometimes more accurate as well. So bottom line is: two separate systems is a good idea. I like Navionics generally but any app on a tablet is no match for a real computer when you want to build a route. For serious weather routing you will need a laptop anyways.
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Hi Bill what’s your thoughts on using copper wire, instead of the strap. Will this provide enough electrical conductivity?
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Regards Ross SV INTREPID KIWI SM2K 356
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 9:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Back up tablet navigation aid
Thanks for the input All it looks like there are a lot of options. i like open cpn but it will not work with IOS think i will invest in Aqua maps for now
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part. Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
This bilge bonding strap conducts micro volts. Stainless steel is much, much less conductive than copper. If I remember correctly, stainless steel has about 2-5% the conductivity of copper. Additionally, I had a client/engineer fashion one out of 1/8" x 2" stainless steel bar. He told me it was very difficult and to warn others that it wasn't worth it. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 12:00 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Randall Walker
That is awesome Robin.
I will be onto it in the morning.
All the best,
Randall
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.
It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.
Robin
Amel 54 # 54
Carré d‘As
Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.
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It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one. Robin Amel 54 # 54 Carré d‘As Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Randall Walker
Thanks Robin,
Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.
I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?
Thanks again,
Randall
54 #56
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog
Robin
Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Randall Walker
Thought of that, if that is all I can get it will be a last resort. Copper pipe is a blend of metal. I believe hat Bill R. is not a fan either. Hoping to find a good quality copper.
Thanks Keith take care
Randall
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Keith Tice via Groups.Io <b.tice@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 10:02 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge Any plumbing supply store. Copper tubing. Use a hammer to flatten it into a sheet.
Regards, Keith Tice Bikini SM2k #282
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Keith Tice <b.tice@...>
Any plumbing supply store. Copper tubing. Use a hammer to flatten it into a sheet.
Regards, Keith Tice Bikini SM2k #282
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Re: Back up tablet navigation aid
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi Mark,
Not sure how this thread got mixed up as I did not ask the original question, that was Rob Hughes.
You have raised an interesting point about routing software. This is something I know nothing about and am certainly interested in getting. My chart plotter is Furuno, and I use Navionics on IOS. Any suggestions for compatible routing software?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: 19 October 2019 21:15 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Back up tablet navigation aid
Hi Paul,
We have been turned onto iSailor by other cruisers who use it. I downloaded the app and charts. It really works well. One of the very appealing features is you “rent” the charts rather than buy them at full price. The price of the rental averages about US$30 for a year and charts are automatically updated when newer versions become available.
We use iSailor only as a secondary system to our main onboard ships custom PC running Nobeltec Time Zero: https://mytimezero.com/
We have used Nobeltec TZ as our primary source for navigation since purchasing Cream Puff. We upgraded the ships PC to a solid-state computer custom built for us by Island Time PC and linked the PC to the NMEA 0183. Other aspects include integrated ActiveCaptain and AIS. In addition to a very comprehensive routing engine we have the ability to download weather and sea conditions while in-route using our sat-phone. This overlays onto the plotter and the routing engine will adjust the suggested course as necessary.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Mizzen mast paint.
John Clark
Hi Paul, I used a spray can mixed at a NAPA autoparts store. Check the Forum for my post. Am at work...will send you accurate paint code when I get home
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:48 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote: I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour?
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Thomas Peacock
Cannot argue with the logic. We are fortunate, our strap seems to be pretty intact. But fashioning a copper connector by hammering a pipe has also been suggested, which seems easy enough.
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Re: Ground strap in bilge
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
Why a copper strap at all then. Why not use heavy duty copper wire?
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Ross INTREPID KIWI SM2K 356
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 2:45 PM, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote:
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