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Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Pat and Diane
Many thanks. Hard to believe that it was only recently in March/April that we met at St Pierre and again at Ills de Saints, and now we are in Australia.
It was our absolute pleasure to get to know you both, and so many other wonderful Amel folk.
Best regards
Colin

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:51 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Colin, I want to add our congratulations on your achievement ,no small thing. It was nice to meet you and Lauren albeit briefly in St Pierre .
Pat& Diane,
SV Shenanigans
Sassafras River Md.


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From: islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2019 9:26 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Hi Kent

Thank you very much. I fully understand your reasons for stopping and shipping from Australia to Turkey. I met many in the Pacific who had similar plans.

We are glad we completed the circumnavigation, but I would not do it again. Next, we may buy a smaller boat, perhaps a Santarin in the Med and tour there for a season or two then sell it again rather than the long ocean passages. So no need for the wonderful ocean crossing capability of our lovely SM anymore. That said, our favorite oceans were certainly the Indian and the Pacific so you would miss out on some nice places in the Indian Ocean such as Rodrigues, Reunion, Chagos, Maldives, Madagascar etc.

Best of luck with it all Kent. I was hoping to catch up with you on our way around as it was so nice to meet so many Amel folk as we circumnavigated.  Perhaps look us up in Brisbane when you reach Australia.

Kind regards
Colin

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:03 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Congratulations on your circumnavigation, Colin and Lauren!  We aren’t quite that ambitious, but we are starting our 5 to 10 year cruising plan through the Caribbean, South Pacific, and Mediterranean. I think we will probably ship the boat from Australia to Turkey.  How has being at shore felt, after all that time at sea?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 24, 2019, at 8:36 AM, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:


Hi Teun

We have just arrived back in Australia after completing our circumnavigation this week. Right now we are in Bundaberg for a few weeks but will return home to Brisbane soon around mid-November.

Please do not ever consider leaving your Amel on an anchor anywhere in Brisbane. That was not good advice at all.

In terms of Brisbane Marinas, we choose a small fairly unknown marina called Newport Marina to berth SV island Pearl II since it is safe, within walking distance from the train to the city and airport. It is a quiet residential type marina with old, but well-kept facilities, and has plenty of car parking right near the boat. It is not a lively place with shops and restaurants, but we like it quiet and it is surrounded by nice upmarket waterfront homes on a canal system. This in our view makes it the safest marina in Brisbane if a tropical storm should ever hit, which is almost impossible. 

Fortunately, the prices there also very reasonable since it is not well known that the entrance channel has recently been deepened, and this was also not shown on the Navionics charts. Most cruisers would not be aware that they could get in there, but it is now at least  2m at low tide LAT, so it is easy to get your Amel in there at most times other than just an hour or two either side of absolute low tides. You can contact the Manager "Mandy" on email: info@..., or call her on and ask her if she has any free spots on D Berth facing the main channel as Island Pearl II is normally there, and am happy to keep a good eye on any Amels who berth near Island Pearl II. Unfortunately, I think there was recently only one space available, so if interested then try to contact her soon and mention me in case that helps get you in. The marina is located at 158 Griffith Road, Newport, QLD 4020... Phone: 07 3203 5855 

The marina/boatyard called "Laurie's Marina" in Mooloolaba is also a reasonable option, and I am aware that they did lift an Amel 53 there a few years ago, and built a nice hardtop for it, and the owner was happy with all the work they did. 

The other marina to consider is Scarborough Marina (very near Newport Marina) which has a fully working boatyard, however, their travel lift is a bit small, so I personally would not lift even my Amel 53 there. Contact them on +61 7 3880 0300 - website www.scarbmarina.com.au.

In terms of having Copper Coat work done I would firstly trust the "BOATWORKS" boatyard on the Gold Coast the most. That is where I always haul out Island Pearl II for normal antifouling paint and prop shaft / Bowthruster servicing, but I do the servicing myself and use them for the paint job. It is without any doubt the best boatyard we have come across anywhere in the world and has all the expertise and parts you could need right there. Prices are not bad too. You can contact them on admin@the boatworks.com.au or phone +61 7 55 000 000 and speak to the manager about who has the best copper coat application experience in his yard. If you have an Autoprop, there is the Australian Autoprop agent right there too who recently replaced my autoprop bearings there and did a great job.

Finally, Teuns, check with Boatworks about long term out of water storage for your Amel too. I have been away from Australia for 3 years now but recently heard that Boatworks now have this service too. That could be a good option for you too.

Best of luck with it and safe travels over to Australia

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Bundaberg Port Marina

Now that we have completed our circumnavigation, Island Pearl II is finally really for sale. Contact me direct via email for prices. She is Australian Duty and GST Paid and UK registered. 









On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:25 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
I am leaving around November 10 2019 from NOUMEA to AUSTRALIA; probably north of BRISBANE and south of BUNDABERG.
 
Can anybody recommend a safe & affordable marina where I can leave the boat for 8 weeks or so (Dec 12, 2019 thru Feb 12, 2020) and then have her, in the vicinity, hauled out for copper coat anti-fouling plus additional 2 yearly A54 maintenance. One of my previous AUSSIE crew, living in the area, is suggesting leaving her on anchor as it is free but I prefer a slip or on the hard while I am in USA.
 
Somebody here in NOUMEA suggested MOOLOOLABA QLD – I have no clue 😊
 
I am flying out of & back in (with a lot of luggage) BRISBANE so will need to have access to transportation to & from International Airport.
 
Any yards; trades people in the area familiar with AMEL?
 
Appreciate your help & suggestions.
 
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128
 
NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA
October 24, 2019 20:23:20
 
 
 
 
 


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24v alternator

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks Alan, James and Bill for your comments.
I can not see that there is any difference between Alan’s set up and mine. So it must be fine tuned.

I have seen other 54’s with the 24v alternator driven by the same belt as the water pump and 12v alternator. That set up works well on all account but it is only 110A v 175A. I am not going to go that way.
I think I will persist with the twin belt set up for a bit longer and do;
1. New bearings on idlers and new face
2. Polish and check faces of pulleys
3. Gates fleet runner matched belts
4. Fine tune the alignment.

Then if I am still not 100% happy I will change the pulleys to micro v serpentine.

Nick
Anchored off Nisos Elefonisos

AML54-019
Re: Remote two way valve for flushing the water maker

Alan Leslie
 

Yes Paul, that's how it works.
And when we start the watermaker we run it for a few minutes to allow the incoming saltwater to fully flush out the fresh before increasing the pressure slowly to start making water.
Fresh water applied under pressure to the membranes will damage them.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Dean,

 

Can you send me your contact information: teun@...  or teun at amelit dot net

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA

October 26, 2019 16:22:52

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Gillies via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 23:28
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

 

Hi Tuen, I’ll be at home in Sydney until late April then back to Stella, currently in Scotland. Ping me on here or private email if you are heading this way before April. Cheers Dean

X
Re: Yanmar Diesel Won't Stay Running

Mark Garver
 

And the winner goes to vacuum in the line. Bled the lines and averting is purring like a 80 HP Diesel.

Thanks all!!! I’m still going to check the vent lines we have a lot of wasps around. some of the ARC1500 boats are up here! All Beneteau’s so far!

Thanks again all!

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105



On Oct 24, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Chad & Leslie Shoaf <crshoaf21@...> wrote:


Had this happen with a clogged vet line. Wasps and other things build nest in them. Creates a vacuum in the fuel tank.

Chad

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 8:37 AM Mark Garver via Groups.Io <mgarver=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's been several months since my wife and I left our boat up in the Chesapeake and upon arrival today to have it hauled for a long over due cleaning. The Yanmar diesel fired right up, but then after a couple of minutes dies. Wait a couple of minutes and it fires right up again, runs for a couple of minutes and shuts off. It runs smoothly and fires up instantly so it doesn't sound like she's starving for fuel or air. The engine only has 30 hours and has be very reliable.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark
S/V It's Good
SM #105
Re: seals orientation

karkauai
 

That is how I have been orienting my seals for the last seven years now. I have had no water ingress, and no loss of oil.

Kent
Kristy
SM 243


On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:44 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:
HI Jose,
How many hours do you have on the seals, and what type of grease did you use
on them?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



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On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] seals orientation

Craig
Still pristine and constant oil level
Jose
Ipanema
Sm278
Re: Remote two way valve for flushing the water maker

David Wallace
 

Paul, yes that’s how it works. With no power on the solenoids the open one let’s salt water in and the closed one keeps freshwater out. Throwing the switch provides power to both solenoids simultaneously which closes the saltwater solenoid and opens the fresh water one. When done flushing I then turn off the RO master switch and power is simultaneously removed from both solenoids (since power to them is routed from the “downstream” side of the master power switch) so they return to their normal state: if I just turned off the solenoid switch saltwater would be introduced again until the RO system was shut off. Then be sure to turn off the solenoid switch or else you'll be making water with your own freshwater when you next start up your system! I've just built a relay switch to solve that problem but haven’t installed it yet.

Good luck!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104


On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 07:03 PM, Alan Leslie wrote:
Dave and Alan thanks, great idea with the timer, as I often forget to flush my membranes. If I understand it right on the saltwater side you have a "remote" valve open when no current and on the fresh water side the valve is open when current is on so when the current is on it flush with freshwater, as the saltwater valve is closed, and when current off it is free passage of salt water if one want to operate the desalinator.
Paul on SM#259 SY Kerpa

Re: Remote two way valve for flushing the water maker

Paul Osterberg
 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 07:03 PM, Alan Leslie wrote:
Dave and Alan thanks, great idea with the timer, as I often forget to flush my membranes. If I understand it right on the saltwater side you have a "remote" valve open when no current and on the fresh water side the valve is open when current is on so when the current is on it flush with freshwater, as the saltwater valve is closed, and when current off it is free passage of salt water if one want to operate the desalinator.
Paul on SM#259 SY Kerpa
Re: 24v alternator pulley

CW Bill Rouse
 

Nick,

Apparently Amel wasn't happy with the install of the 175 amp alternator on the first 54s either. They later changed the alternator to a 110 amp Mastervolt. If possible, you should look at a later model 54. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 2:27 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am still not completely happy with the 24v 175A alternator installation on Amelia.
There is belt dust that is annoying, and they do not last very long.

I have checked the alignment and it is pretty good.

The alternator is nearly new.

I have a smart regulator that ramps up the load gradually.

The two idler pulley are not perfect. So I will have them machined down say 0.5mm and new bearings and check they are true. Maybe this is the problem?

The faces of the grooved pulleys are smooth.

So far the best belt in terms of longevity is the Mitsubishi Set Free SPB 1320LW.

Belt tension; I do not have a gauge and do it by feel. Perhaps it is time to buy the tension gauge?

What I am beginning to think is that I should change from twin v pulleys to a Serpentine grooved pulley with a single wide belt. I
could use the existing idlers and the tensioner. Change the PTO pulley and the alternator pulley.

Has anyone done this?

Or does anyone have any thoughts.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored in the south of Peloponnisos
AML 54-019
Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Dean Gillies <dean@...>
 

Hi Tuen, I’ll be at home in Sydney until late April then back to Stella, currently in Scotland. Ping me on here or private email if you are heading this way before April. Cheers Dean

X
Re: seals orientation

eric freedman
 

HI Jose,
How many hours do you have on the seals, and what type of grease did you use
on them?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:37 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] seals orientation

Craig
Still pristine and constant oil level
Jose
Ipanema
Sm278
Re: seals orientation

Jose Venegas
 

Craig
Still pristine and constant oil level
Jose
Ipanema
Sm278
Re: 24v alternator pulley

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Nick,

We have the Leece Neville alternator with a smart reg on Elyse ...twin belt pulley...and no dust...and the belts are fine after years.
Previous experience with this leads me to believe that the pulley is the problem.
You don't need much of an imperfection in the pulley groove to lead to belt destruction.
The belt should be sitting in the pulley groove, not bottoming out and the faces of the pulley groove must be absolutely devoid of any corrosion or dirt, anything.
Ours has worked perfectly for the last 6 years ....and the big advantage of this setup is that the 2 belts on the LN 175A alternator are the same size as the belt on the small alt that charges the start battery.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Latest RigRite.com Goiot Tradition Prices 2019!

Andrew Eaves <andyeaves@...>
 

Hi Charles

Fantastic work and yes please. I don't need much as a repair but if you have sets that aren't costing much I may replace them all to match. My email address is andyeaves@... to note if you can send me a list of what you have, it would be appreciated. 

Do you know of a reasonable place to get the gaskets short of the same marine shops?

Thanks
Re: Engine Water leakage

Craig Briggs
 

Hi LO,
Your mechanic's educated guess could be correct, but not necessarily so. As I noted this could simply be a leaking freeze plug. I've had both and they are identical in appearance, that is, both drip down behind the timing belt cover and cannot be seen at the source. One costs $1, the other costs $179 ($184 with gasket sealant) from Parts 4 Diesels (don't know about European sourcing). 

You won't know until you pull the plastic timing belt housing off (after removing timing belt, drive and cam shaft pulleys, fuel pump pulley, idlers, etc.) Do not remove the water pump until you spot the leak so you will know if it is the pump or the freeze plug behind the pump. 

If you've got an oil leak too, it's easy and cheap to replace the front seals while you've got the timing cover off. (Well, the seals are cheap - as is my labor - don't know about a mechanic's charge if you're not doing the work yourself.)
 
Good luck with it,
Craig
Re: 24v alternator pulley

James Alton
 

Nick,

High output alternators and their pulleys can run pretty hot even when properly set up which seems to be a big factor in the dust problem and the early failure. With twin belts it is of course critical that the two belts be a perfectly matched set so that they share the load equally so try to buy belts from the same batch and don’t mix if at all possible. I had a customer with a twin belt setup with a 200 amp large case alternator that was going through belts in a relatively short period and what a mess the engine room was. I switched him to the Gates Fleetrunner belts used for long haul truckers and the belt dressing was greatly reduced and the failures pretty much stopped. Marine Pro liked the belts enough to begin putting them on customers engines too when possible. Might be worth giving them a try though unfortunately I have sometimes had problems finding the exact size that I needed.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno, Maramu #220
Now high and dry in Preveza

On Oct 25, 2019, at 4:27 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I am still not completely happy with the 24v 175A alternator installation on Amelia.
There is belt dust that is annoying, and they do not last very long.

I have checked the alignment and it is pretty good.

The alternator is nearly new.

I have a smart regulator that ramps up the load gradually.

The two idler pulley are not perfect. So I will have them machined down say 0.5mm and new bearings and check they are true. Maybe this is the problem?

The faces of the grooved pulleys are smooth.

So far the best belt in terms of longevity is the Mitsubishi Set Free SPB 1320LW.

Belt tension; I do not have a gauge and do it by feel. Perhaps it is time to buy the tension gauge?

What I am beginning to think is that I should change from twin v pulleys to a Serpentine grooved pulley with a single wide belt. I
could use the existing idlers and the tensioner. Change the PTO pulley and the alternator pulley.

Has anyone done this?

Or does anyone have any thoughts.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored in the south of Peloponnisos
AML 54-019
Re: 24v alternator pulley

michael winand
 





I have a new engine and 24v alternator with the belt. Still new so far am pleased with the set up. 


On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 6:27 pm, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io
<ngtnewington@...> wrote:
I am still not completely happy with the 24v 175A alternator installation on Amelia.
There is belt dust that is annoying, and they do not last very long.

I have checked the alignment and it is pretty good.

The alternator is nearly new.

I have a smart regulator that ramps up the load gradually.

The two idler pulley are not perfect. So I will have them machined down say 0.5mm and new bearings and check they are true. Maybe this is the problem?

The faces of the grooved pulleys are smooth.

So far the best belt in terms of longevity is the Mitsubishi Set Free SPB 1320LW.

Belt tension; I do not have a gauge and do it by feel. Perhaps it is time to buy the tension gauge?

What I am beginning to think is that I should change from twin v pulleys to a Serpentine grooved pulley with a single wide belt. I
could use the existing idlers and the tensioner. Change the PTO pulley and the alternator pulley.

Has anyone done this?

Or does anyone have any thoughts.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored in the south of Peloponnisos
AML 54-019
24v alternator pulley

ngtnewington Newington
 

I am still not completely happy with the 24v 175A alternator installation on Amelia.
There is belt dust that is annoying, and they do not last very long.

I have checked the alignment and it is pretty good.

The alternator is nearly new.

I have a smart regulator that ramps up the load gradually.

The two idler pulley are not perfect. So I will have them machined down say 0.5mm and new bearings and check they are true. Maybe this is the problem?

The faces of the grooved pulleys are smooth.

So far the best belt in terms of longevity is the Mitsubishi Set Free SPB 1320LW.

Belt tension; I do not have a gauge and do it by feel. Perhaps it is time to buy the tension gauge?

What I am beginning to think is that I should change from twin v pulleys to a Serpentine grooved pulley with a single wide belt. I
could use the existing idlers and the tensioner. Change the PTO pulley and the alternator pulley.

Has anyone done this?

Or does anyone have any thoughts.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored in the south of Peloponnisos
AML 54-019
Re: Engine Water leackage

Santorin LO
 

As bitter as as can...

However, Mechanic suggested leak from fresh water pump (must be right as leakage is from the back (under the timing) + leakage from oil gasket in the same area - made a lot of sense as both are coming from there.

On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 06:14:50 PM GMT+3, Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:


I had a similar colored liquid in my bilge. after a long search it turned out to be the red gear box oil mixed with diesel. reason was leaking gearbox and leaking diesel hp pump. fixed both and all is fine now.
you might also want to check on the heat exchanger lines if everything is tightened properly.
what does the liquid smell / taste like?
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Matt,

 

Thanks for the suggestion but, in all honesty, except for this forum I avoid any social media as I am looking for qualified advice 😊.

 

Have gotten real, real helpful feedback so far and it worked. I think I am all covered by now thanks to this Forum.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA

October 25, 2019 16:22:09

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 22:54
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

 

Try asking on the Sailing Australia FB page.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Oct 24, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

I am leaving around November 10 2019 from NOUMEA to AUSTRALIA; probably north of BRISBANE and south of BUNDABERG.

 

Can anybody recommend a safe & affordable marina where I can leave the boat for 8 weeks or so (Dec 12, 2019 thru Feb 12, 2020) and then have her, in the vicinity, hauled out for copper coat anti-fouling plus additional 2 yearly A54 maintenance. One of my previous AUSSIE crew, living in the area, is suggesting leaving her on anchor as it is free but I prefer a slip or on the hard while I am in USA.

 

Somebody here in NOUMEA suggested MOOLOOLABA QLD – I have no clue 😊

 

I am flying out of & back in (with a lot of luggage) BRISBANE so will need to have access to transportation to & from International Airport.

 

Any yards; trades people in the area familiar with AMEL?

 

Appreciate your help & suggestions.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA

October 24, 2019 20:23:20

 

 

 

 

 
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