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Diesel Leak

augusto.dominguez <agdominguezo@...>
 

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247


MARAMU MIZZEN SAIL MEASUREMENTS NON FURLING VERSION

Alejandro Paquin
 

Does anyone have the detailed mizzen sail measurements for a 1981 Maramu. Ours is a non furling system. Also what hardware is required and original sail reefing data.

Regards,

A.Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
MARAMU 1981


Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

Alejandro Paquin
 

Dear Barry & Robyn:
Many thanks for responding to my question. Although we own a Maramu, I will look at your diagram to see if the SM solution could apply as well.
All the best
A.Paquin

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Bernard PERIN <perin-bernard@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank's a lot for your information, I was looking for a solution to get the water temperature and the oil pressure.

Yes I would like to have the wiring diagram, could you send it to me.

Best regards.

Bernard PERIN
SM 100





Message du 06/04/09 09:43
De : "seagasm"
A : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Copie à :
Objet : [Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this out.
There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash, only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires. Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin" ...> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


[Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

I have uploaded the wiring diagram to the files folder. The numbered boxes in the component sketch represent the plug connection pins found behind the panel. The corresponding numbers in wiring circuit can be found on the bar of either the standard circuit (without gauges) or the De Luxe circuit (with gauges). All wiring is standard colour coded.

All the best
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM #171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, sailw32@... wrote:

Barry, I would appreciate the wiring diagram I have been wanting to add
gauges to my boat. Thanks,Pat SM123


In a message dated 4/6/2009 3:43:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
seagasm@... writes:




I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been
through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became
blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water
temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong
direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this
out.

There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a
temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation
of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash,
only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature
exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature
gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off
the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires.
Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a
VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an
oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com) , "Alex Paquin" <alex.paquin@ale> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94




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Re: Onan Model 7 MDKVA starting problems

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks Bill for your reply. I did just as you advised but without any luck.

I purchased a fuel shut off solenoid (as it contains a contact that is necessary for the start circuitry, I purchased K4 Relay, K1 Relay (that is good for all the other relays, a starter contacter etc. All this I hauled to the boat in the Caribbean along with the schematics that I had posted on this site and the service manual. I set about trouble shooting my system and everything that the book said to check was ok but the genset would not crank. I checked every continuity and all was ok, but still no start. I then began swapping out parts with new ones and still no cranking. I finally applied 24 volt power directly to the starter and it did not crank, so I assumed (incorrectly) that the starter was dead. (That is the one part I did not buy). The starter from the USA was going to be $570.00 USD (outrageous) so I tracked down a shop in Road Town Tortola, Al's Marine Service (I can high recommend them). The tested the starter and it worked fine. Just to be sure we disassembled it, inspected everything, found everything in practically new condition including brushes etc, lubed it and reassembled it. Back on the boat the thing would not start. While re-installing the starter I spied the ground side heavy duty solenoid that sits directly below the starter (part of the ground isolation option for the marine gensets). I tested across this and found that the coil was open. The engine case ground goes through this solenoid to the battery ground cable. Only the glow plugs and the starter are grounded to the engine block and then via the solenoid to the battery ground cable. All the other genset electronic's grounds go to a ground bus and then to the battery ground cable. If this ground side solenoid doesn't close during the start cycle then there is no ground path for the starter and the starter won't crank. The service manual does not mention trouble shooting this and all my previous, non-marine, mechanical electrical experience was with non-isolated grounds. Nigel Calder in his book gives an excellent summary of why this important on boats and if I had read that first then I would have saved some time and grief. At any rate I was able to get my genset running by using a screw and nut to bind all the grounds together and bypass the faulty solenoid. I did this at the risk of some galvanic corrosion occuring during the time that the genset runs as this effectively ties the electronics of the genset to the engine block. It will be short term until I can get a new solenoid.

So, moral to the story, on all things marine consider the ground side of the equation when trouble shooting electrical circuits as well as the hot side.

Hope this helps someone in the future.

Gary Silver, Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335 Onan Model 7 MDKVA Specification B

PS When ordering parts for the Onan Genset they require you to know the Spec. (this is posted on the engine decals and is not part of the serial number or part number.)

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Gary,

You were recently researching Onan starter problems as I did about a
year ago. I did not find information specific to my situation, but I
solved the problem. Unfortunately, I did not share this with the Group.

I had starting problems where the there was some clicking and fuel
pumping, but no starter engage. The Genset would go no error with an
indication that there was excessive cranking when in fact there was no
cranking.

Solution:
All of the sensor wire terminals (temp, exhaust temp, fuel pressure,
water flow, etc) and the Positive & Negative starter solenoid
connections were loosened, cleaned then reattached...I assume that one
or more of the terminals needed cleaning...no more problem.

I hope this helps you and/or someone else.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ


Re: Bowthruster and main propellor seals

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Brian,

The 80 x 60 x 12 seal is the seal for the bow thruster tube. This seal is under the upper foam seal on top of the Thruster Trunk. There are 3 foam seals...one upper two under the "Thruster Trunk" which is the rectangular shaft, fiber-glassed into the hull of the boat, in which the bow thruster foot assembly rides up and down.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "briantrautman@..." <briant@...> wrote:

Hello,

We're located in Seattle, WA and preparing to head south this summer! We're hauling the boat ou next week and I had a question regarding the seals required for servicing the bow thruster.

In this thread I saw a mention of two different seals required:

one 80 x 60 x 12
one 42 x 30 x 7

I have 3 of the the 42 x 30 x 7 seal which appears to be a typical shaft&#92;oil seal.

Is the 80 x 60 x 12 seal the foam ring that the unit rests on or is this another shaft seal that I need to purchase? If it's the foam ring does anyone know of a good source to purchase spares or any ideas for making them yourself?

Regards,
Brian Trautman
SM#303 Delos


Re: [Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

Bernard PERIN <perin-bernard@...>
 

Hi,

Thank's a lot for your information, I was looking for a solution to get the water temperature and the oil pressure.

Yes I would like to have the wiring diagram, could you send it to me.

Best regards.

Bernard PERIN
SM 100





Message du 06/04/09 09:43
De : "seagasm"
A : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Copie à :
Objet : [Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this out.
There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash, only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires. Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin" ...> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Bowthruster and main propellor seals

briantrautman@ymail.com <briant@...>
 

Hello,

We're located in Seattle, WA and preparing to head south this summer! We're hauling the boat ou next week and I had a question regarding the seals required for servicing the bow thruster.

In this thread I saw a mention of two different seals required:

one 80 x 60 x 12
one 42 x 30 x 7

I have 3 of the the 42 x 30 x 7 seal which appears to be a typical shaft&#92;oil seal.

Is the 80 x 60 x 12 seal the foam ring that the unit rests on or is this another shaft seal that I need to purchase? If it's the foam ring does anyone know of a good source to purchase spares or any ideas for making them yourself?

Regards,
Brian Trautman
SM#303 Delos


Re: [Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

Patrick McAneny
 

Barry, I would appreciate the wiring diagram I have been wanting to add
gauges to my boat. Thanks,Pat SM123

In a message dated 4/6/2009 3:43:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
seagasm@gmail.com writes:




I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been
through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became
blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water
temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong
direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this
out.

There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a
temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation
of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash,
only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature
exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature
gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off
the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires.
Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a
VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an
oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com) , "Alex Paquin" <alex.paquin@ale> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94




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Re: [Amel] Re: Which model?

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Thanks Horst

I was confused of the painted "sundeck" on the aft cabin. All other pictures I have seen it has been white.



Regards

Annsofie



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: horst.puddleduck@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:03:52 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Which model?





It's a Maramu

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

I have posted a picture of an Amel. Could anyone plese help me with the model?

Regards
Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila








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Re: [Amel] Re: Which model?

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Thanks Eric

The painted "sundeck" made me confused.



This is one of two Amels in Sweden, we have the other one :) But soon there will be a 54 aswell.



Regards

Annsofie



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: ericmeury@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:33:39 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Which model?





i don't own an amel right now but probably spend more time looking at them on the web than any other non-owner

i'm going to go with a maramu form the 80's maybe a 48ft...if its an early 80's like 81 it probably won't have a bow thruster...









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Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this out.

There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash, only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires. Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin" <alex.paquin@...> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94


Iridium Sat Phone Antenna Installation

Craig Scott
 

I have an Iridium Sat Phone and want to know what kind of antenna installations have been done on Amel 54's. Are they all on the top of the mizzen? Has anyone mounted one on the dodger? All comments will be appreciated.

Craig Scott
LONE STAR
Amel 54 #101


Fw: Alternator smart charger

Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@...>
 

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:57:04 AM
Subject: Alternator smart charger


Hallo Everyone,
Pls, your opinion abb. alternator smart charger Xantrex, Sterling ,Adverc,  Beter charging  or dameging
atteries?  Acc. Adverc opinion ,the ratio Altern.--Batter. is 1 to 3 ?
Thank you,
Pepe SM 223





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Re: Which model?

horst.puddleduck <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

It's a Maramu

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

I have posted a picture of an Amel. Could anyone plese help me with the model?

Regards
Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila


SAFE MODEL NUMBER?

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

As preivously posted, I can not get into my safe. If someone knows the model number of the Hartmann Tresore safe, perhaps I can get help from Hartmann Tresore. Thanks Peter Pappas SM #369 "Callisto" Gulf Calebra Costa Rica


MY SAFE WON'T OPEN

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

My Hartmann Tresore safe will not open. I do not have a key as the previous owner lost it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Peter Pappas SM #369 "Callisto". Gulf Calebra, Costa Rica


MY SAFE WON'T OPEN

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

My Hartmann Tresore safe will not open. I do not have a key as the previous owner lost it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Peter Pappas SM #369 "Callisto". Gulf Calebra, Costa Rica


Re: Shipping from Amel

rossirossix4
 

I also have had amazingly expensive shipping for parts that I was not in a hurry to receive. Maybe Joel or Ray knows the answer.

Bob
Brittany de la Mer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sailw32" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Everything that I have ordered from Amel has been shipped via Federal express to the USA .For a very small box that weighed only a few ounces the shipping was $80.00,that seemed a bit exspensive to me and was twice the cost of the contents.Someone a week ago wrote to have things sent "airmail" I assume to save on cost.Iam going to order a gearbox and was wondering if there is a cheaper alternative means to have things shipped from Amel ? Thanks,SM123


Re: Which model?

ericmeury <ericmeury@...>
 

i don't own an amel right now but probably spend more time looking at them on the web than any other non-owner

i'm going to go with a maramu form the 80's maybe a 48ft...if its an early 80's like 81 it probably won't have a bow thruster...