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Re: Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

 

Mark,

I have seen that 2nd O ring photo before. I do not remember where I saw it, but I think it is wrong. I took a photo of the V Plug/Bolt from Amel right after I unwrapped it. Here it is:
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There were a total of 3 pieces. V Plug/Bolt, O ring, and metal washer.

I believe that Amel once told me that sometimes you have to use 2 metal washers, especially if reusing a metal washer which has been compressed.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:28 PM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I have some confusion about sealing the C-drive drain plug used with the Spurs linecutter.  I re-installed the plug with an O-ring and a Dowty washer (the metal washer with a rubber insert) but it is too loosely fitted when the V lines up and I do not think I can tighten it further to get the V correctly oriented.  I then found the photo below on my PC that shows an second o-ring and a sealing washer.  I also have a photo posted by someone else without these two.  Plus Nikimat does not show these. Which is correct? I have attached both photos below.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

Re: 160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

Will Stout <tango708@...>
 

Hi Nick,
I had the same issue after leaving Martinique for the state last year.  The CAT pumps are built in the USA and are rebuildable, however I was not able to find a dealer in the USA to rebuild mine.  After purchasing a new pump ($1,300) I learned that's almost every carwash in America has that pump and the folks who service carwashes will rebuild them for you.  BTW, they rebuild them in Martinique regularly. Mine failed after testing the high pressure switch, which was working just fine but of course ran the pressure up beyond normal operating pressure.

I notice that you are in Greece but I would still check with a local automated carwash about service.

Good Luck,

Will Stout,
Anni Bea True, SM180
For Sale in Annapolis

Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

Mark Pitt
 

Hi all,

I have some confusion about sealing the C-drive drain plug used with the Spurs linecutter.  I re-installed the plug with an O-ring and a Dowty washer (the metal washer with a rubber insert) but it is too loosely fitted when the V lines up and I do not think I can tighten it further to get the V correctly oriented.  I then found the photo below on my PC that shows an second o-ring and a sealing washer.  I also have a photo posted by someone else without these two.  Plus Nikimat does not show these. Which is correct? I have attached both photos below.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

Re: Maramu - Goiot Y-Track Mizzen Car Repair

Gerhard Mueller
 

I have used bronze and so was the old broken ones.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Mike Ondra
 

Paul,

I had put this list together to help reference all the seals on Aletes. I cannot guarantee its exhaustiveness nor 100% accuracy, but it may be a start for you.

If anyone has corrections or additions, I would be happy to adjust and repost.

Mike

ALETES SM #240

Departing Norfolk for Martinique Monday Nov 4

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arthur Sundqvist
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:10 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lip Seals Amel SM

 

Ask. Maud I think AMEL has all you need.....

Arthur

Skickat från min iPhone



1 nov. 2019 kl. 11:51 skrev Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>:

I thought I saw a list of various lip seals needed for the Amel SM, but now I can't find it. I'm doing overhaul of a few things and thought I should order a collection of Lip seals for now a future needs. Does such list exist? I assume different vintage might have some different measures but most should be the same I guess
If not maybe we together can make one, and maybe one for the various o rings needed when servicing various items aboard.

Paul on S/Y Kerpa #259 Lagos, Portugal

Re: Maramu - Goiot Y-Track Mizzen Car Repair

sbmesasailor
 

Jeremy,

You created a nice alternative BUT.

It looks like you used steel washers.  The original washers were aluminum as is the rest of the car.  Using dissimilar metals is inviting galvanic corrosion.  If you did use steel washers, I'd keep an eye on the assembly over the following months to see if any corrosion occurs.  If it does, it will only get worse.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121 

Re: Amel in lower Chesapeake

Gary Wells
 

Hi Brian

You'd be welcome aboard but we must depart on the 11/3 in order to hit our weather opening southbound.  

I know there are a couple of other Amels around the area and I hope you can get connected. 

I also know of one for sale up near Annapolis that I could put you in touch with the owner.

Best! 

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Hampton, VA 

Re: Main furler

Mark McGovern
 

Paul,

People use the term "Pulley Puller" and "Bearing Puller" interchangeably.  They are similar tools and sometimes either one can be used to do the same job but in this case you really need a Bearing Puller to get into the narrow gap between the bearing and the gear in order to be able to pull the bearing off the shaft.

See the picture below of my 3 Jaw Pulley Puller next to my Bearing Puller:




--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Ask. Maud I think AMEL has all you need.....
Arthur

Skickat från min iPhone

1 nov. 2019 kl. 11:51 skrev Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>:

I thought I saw a list of various lip seals needed for the Amel SM, but now I can't find it. I'm doing overhaul of a few things and thought I should order a collection of Lip seals for now a future needs. Does such list exist? I assume different vintage might have some different measures but most should be the same I guess
If not maybe we together can make one, and maybe one for the various o rings needed when servicing various items aboard.

Paul on S/Y Kerpa #259 Lagos, Portugal

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

karkauai
 

No, Elja, just the top and bottom plates. The cast aluminum plates that are easily broken when servicing the gear boxes. In my experience, the gear boxes and gears are in good shape, but can’t be used if you break the corner off of the plate as Paul did. The nylon ones seem strong enough, but I haven’t taken the repaired gearbox apart again to see if they are reusable.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Nov 1, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <@Balu> wrote:
He Kent ,
you print the gaer boxes ?

Best Elja Röllinghoff
SM Balu



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Re: Prop antifouling

Wade Shikoski
 

Rustoleum cold galvanize spray over the proper 2 part epoxy primer. Has a lot of zinc
10$ plus primer

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Kent,

 Which parts did you have made ?  3-D printing could play a huge role in replacing parts that are no longer in production.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: 01 November 2019 00:33
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Leroy Somer Spare parts
 
I had some made by 3D printing in nylon that seem to be holding up.  Contact Ronan at Pro 3D Printing Services +1 (410) 831-5891

They were $150 each with the cost of design work.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 30, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He paul ,
We ordert new gaerboxes in Italy and install one new .
It was not expencive
Only the leroy somer motor you ca order it only by amel
It was not possoble to order the motor  by leroy somer

When you intrested i will lock tomorow for some fotos and mre details

Best
Elja
SM Balu 222

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Lip Seals Amel SM

Paul Osterberg
 

I thought I saw a list of various lip seals needed for the Amel SM, but now I can't find it. I'm doing overhaul of a few things and thought I should order a collection of Lip seals for now a future needs. Does such list exist? I assume different vintage might have some different measures but most should be the same I guess
If not maybe we together can make one, and maybe one for the various o rings needed when servicing various items aboard.

Paul on S/Y Kerpa #259 Lagos, Portugal

Re: Main furling "clutch"

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Paul ,
It is not realy dificult , but you need good tools and 4-5 hours and a little know how ,
For me this do a frind of mine incloudit the black rings .
If you like i will ask him to do it again for you , and what is the price for the compleatly gaerbox .

Feel free to replay
Elja Röllinghoff
SM Balu
222

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Re: B&G Halcyon (GSC) Gyro-Stabilized Compass

Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
 

I used the NMEA 0183 out at the Raymarine Autopilot to read Mag HDG heading by Actisense NGW-1 (actually I build my own but does the same, only better software).
The actisense bridge sends the mag HDG into my NMEA2000 bus and all connected devices use it for their calculations.

For now I did not realise any delays in the calculations based on HDG. That might be caused by my DIY Actisense bridge, because it has a very fast CPU, taking in consideration that the NMEA 0183 is relative slow.

Oliver from 
Vela Nautica 
A54#39 
Gibraltar 

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 23:39 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Oliver,

Early 54s had Raymarine autopilots and a fluxgate compass. The fluxgate was located on the port side near the forward port side corner of the dining table sectional seating.

Later 54s had Furuno AutoPilots and had a Furuno electronic compass located on the Starboard side just forward of the saloon water tight bulkhead. The strange thing that I discovered is that B&G will not read the HDG of a Raymarine Fluxgate Compass from the NMEA OUT on the Raymarine processor, but the B&G will read HDG from the NMEA OUT of the Furuno compass. I have always believed that "fluxgate" is a Raymarine Trademark for an electronic compass.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:47 PM Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:
Hi Wolfgang,

I think I got also only the fluxgate from Raymarine. I will look for it in the forward cabin. 

I could not find any other compass or wires for it when I remouved the hydra system 2 weeks ago. It was no more working and we replaced it by a NMEA2000 system. New windvane and tridata sounder with sonic speed integrated.

Maybe I need to add a faster Nmea 2k compass if the fluxgate updates slow. For now I did not reasise any delay

Regards Oliver
A54#39 
Vela Nautica 
Gibraltar 

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 11:09 Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Oliver,
In the moment I am not on the boat, but I think I only have the compass which belongs to the Furuno Autopilot, which is in the Bb Forwardcabin in the bilge. My boat is now in Fort Lauderdale and will be shipped to Gibraltar (hopefully) the next week. So I should be there end of November.
All the best to the group   Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162





160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

ngtnewington Newington
 

I have a small oil leak on the Desalateur Cat HP Pump.
I am wondering if others have found this issue and possible solutions.
I have not yet taken it out and had a good look. I am hesitant to take it all apart without rebuild kit.
Any thoughts?
Nick
Amelia sailing to Koiladhia, Greece.
AML 54-019

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Kent ,
you print the gaer boxes ?

Best Elja Röllinghoff
SM Balu



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Re: B&G Halcyon (GSC) Gyro-Stabilized Compass

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Yes Brent. For the reasons you enumerate the right place for the flux gate compass is low down and central as possible.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 01 November 2019 at 15:35 Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:

Bill, a fluxgate isn’t a proprietary Raymarine term.  It is a relatively simple device consisting of iron cores surrounded by primary and secondary copper windings.  It is used to determine the magnetic fields of the earth.  They need to be level against the horizon to work and the old ones are usually gimbal stabilized or mounted in some sort of dampening fluid like a compass or use may even use electronic dampening so that it doesn’t swing with the boat yawing, pitching and rolling.  Newer models are often combined with gyro compasses which use the principle of a top spinning maintaining its orientation in space despite the world turning around it.  The fluxgate provides a stable long term reference to the magnetic field while the gyro provides short term dynamic stability and allows dampening of any external forces on it.  The challenge is that this takes a fair bit of energy to keep that gyroscope spinning and of course advances occur.  Now even newer units combine all this by using 3-axis fluxgates with the horizon vector being determined by a line perpendicular to gravity all done inside a small chip in silicon.  Y ou likely have one in your pocket with your iPhone.   

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator


 


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


 

Re: B&G Halcyon (GSC) Gyro-Stabilized Compass

Brent Cameron
 

Bill, a fluxgate isn’t a proprietary Raymarine term.  It is a relatively simple device consisting of iron cores surrounded by primary and secondary copper windings.  It is used to determine the magnetic fields of the earth.  They need to be level against the horizon to work and the old ones are usually gimbal stabilized or mounted in some sort of dampening fluid like a compass or use may even use electronic dampening so that it doesn’t swing with the boat yawing, pitching and rolling.  Newer models are often combined with gyro compasses which use the principle of a top spinning maintaining its orientation in space despite the world turning around it.  The fluxgate provides a stable long term reference to the magnetic field while the gyro provides short term dynamic stability and allows dampening of any external forces on it.  The challenge is that this takes a fair bit of energy to keep that gyroscope spinning and of course advances occur.  Now even newer units combine all this by using 3-axis fluxgates with the horizon vector being determined by a line perpendicular to gravity all done inside a small chip in silicon.  You likely have one in your pocket with your iPhone.   

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada

Re: Prop antifouling

James Cromie
 

Has anyone tried simply rubbing marine grease on the prop every 2 - 3 months?  I have been told that this works well for periods up to about 3 months.  Haven’t tried it myself yet…

James
SV Soteria, preparing to sail Aruba to Cartagena

On Oct 31, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

I tried PropSpeed 3 separate times. (They certainly are proud of that stuff!)
I had the same results as you. Very unsatisfactory. I tried everything, and finally found a decent solution.
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I use the spray. About $35 US for a can.
I use the whole can on my underwater metal, usually 3 or 4 coats on the prop. I burnish the fully dried paint with a heavy duty scotch brite pad, to expose the zinc (not on the edges, but the flats of the blades).
In an entire season, not a single barnacle or growth of any kind on the prop. And the paint stayed adhered to my stainless prop. I don’t burnish the other underwater metals, and do have some growth on them, so the burnishing is important. I spray the prop once a year.


~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Looking for advice- I'm doing a bottom job in 6 weeks. Last year I used Propspeed on my Autoprop and 6 months later there was no evidence of it.....the barnacles however were flourishing. While I enjoy diving I like it better without a scraper in my hand.  Given the cost of Propspeed, 6 months is unacceptable. Would love to know if there's something better out there.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422
Bocas del Toro Panama