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Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Paul Osterberg
 

Kent
How long have you had your 3d printed lids?
Paul

Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Paul Osterberg
 

I have updated with a few lip selas and some O rings
Paul

Re: Amel in lower Chesapeake

Mark McGovern
 

Brian,

Your are just a bit too late as everyone is departing this week for points East and South.  We keep our SM in the Middle Chesapeake but that's a four hour drive north.  The Chesapeake Bay really is huge!

Mark


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Paul Osterberg
 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Kleman wrote:
Interesting I have mailed them and ask if they would ship "the Kent part". to me in Portugal 
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259

Re: Prop antifouling

Thomas Kleman
 

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422

Re: Prop antifouling

Matt Salatino
 

Proper application is also the key to successful CopperCoat antifouling.
I tried PropSpeed, 3 times. Applied it myself. Followed the directions to the letter. Maybe the directions are wrong, as they don’t say you need to apply the top coat while the primer is still wet.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:41 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I used PropSpeed with mixed results.

But, while in Turkey I met an American catamaran cruising couple, who loved it. He and his wife had used PropSpeed 6 or 7 times with success. 
  • He said that PropSpeed was only as good as the installation. 
  • He would not allow anyone else to install it...only he and his wife installed it as a team.
  • He said that preparation and following the instructions were very important.
  • He also said that the top coating HAD to be applied so fast after the base coat that it required two people. 
  • He insisted that IT WAS NOT FAST ENOUGH even if you applied the base coat, then immediately applied the top coat. He said a normal prop required two people working as a team: One appling the final base coat with the other immediately behind the first applying the top coat.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I second the Pettit spray below. This is bar far the best solution I have found for the prop.

 

Unfortunately, I also fell victim to the claims of Propspeed and completely wasted a couple of hundred dollars in Grenada. It barely lasted 3 months.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:40 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Prop antifouling

 

I tried PropSpeed 3 separate times. (They certainly are proud of that stuff!)

I had the same results as you. Very unsatisfactory. I tried everything, and finally found a decent solution.

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I use the spray. About $35 US for a can.

I use the whole can on my underwater metal, usually 3 or 4 coats on the prop. I burnish the fully dried paint with a heavy duty scotch brite pad, to expose the zinc (not on the edges, but the flats of the blades).

In an entire season, not a single barnacle or growth of any kind on the prop. And the paint stayed adhered to my stainless prop. I don’t burnish the other underwater metals, and do have some growth on them, so the burnishing is important. I spray the prop once a year.

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Looking for advice- I'm doing a bottom job in 6 weeks. Last year I used Propspeed on my Autoprop and 6 months later there was no evidence of it.....the barnacles however were flourishing. While I enjoy diving I like it better without a scraper in my hand.  Given the cost of Propspeed, 6 months is unacceptable. Would love to know if there's something better out there.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422
Bocas del Toro Panama

Re: Prop antifouling

 

I used PropSpeed with mixed results.

But, while in Turkey I met an American catamaran cruising couple, who loved it. He and his wife had used PropSpeed 6 or 7 times with success. 
  • He said that PropSpeed was only as good as the installation. 
  • He would not allow anyone else to install it...only he and his wife installed it as a team.
  • He said that preparation and following the instructions were very important.
  • He also said that the top coating HAD to be applied so fast after the base coat that it required two people. 
  • He insisted that IT WAS NOT FAST ENOUGH even if you applied the base coat, then immediately applied the top coat. He said a normal prop required two people working as a team: One appling the final base coat with the other immediately behind the first applying the top coat.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I second the Pettit spray below. This is bar far the best solution I have found for the prop.

 

Unfortunately, I also fell victim to the claims of Propspeed and completely wasted a couple of hundred dollars in Grenada. It barely lasted 3 months.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:40 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Prop antifouling

 

I tried PropSpeed 3 separate times. (They certainly are proud of that stuff!)

I had the same results as you. Very unsatisfactory. I tried everything, and finally found a decent solution.

image1.jpeg

I use the spray. About $35 US for a can.

I use the whole can on my underwater metal, usually 3 or 4 coats on the prop. I burnish the fully dried paint with a heavy duty scotch brite pad, to expose the zinc (not on the edges, but the flats of the blades).

In an entire season, not a single barnacle or growth of any kind on the prop. And the paint stayed adhered to my stainless prop. I don’t burnish the other underwater metals, and do have some growth on them, so the burnishing is important. I spray the prop once a year.

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Looking for advice- I'm doing a bottom job in 6 weeks. Last year I used Propspeed on my Autoprop and 6 months later there was no evidence of it.....the barnacles however were flourishing. While I enjoy diving I like it better without a scraper in my hand.  Given the cost of Propspeed, 6 months is unacceptable. Would love to know if there's something better out there.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422
Bocas del Toro Panama

Re: 160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks for the info. I am waiting on an estimate from a UK outfit        cat pumps.co.uk for them to supply the kit and to do the job.
I have watched a couple of YouTube videos. It looks reasonably simple given a good working environment and a methodical approach.
Nick
Amelia 54-019 Greece


On 2 Nov 2019, at 15:30, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I rebuilt the 20 year old high pressure pump on my 24V D60 a few years ago with parts I got through Dessalator guy in Maine (Mark Fruehoff-Balcen Marine Technical Setvices-(207) 522-6737-info@...).  The parts cost ~$750US.  It wasn’t hard to do and has worked fine since.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:13 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Thanks Will. 
I reckon that the leak is from one of the oil seals on the crankcase. The pump works fine and has only 608 hours on it. 
However if I go to the trouble of taking it out then it should get a full service at the same time; new low and high pressure seals and valve check.
This is something that I could do myself so long as I have the parts...
I am hauling out on Monday; not sure I will find anyone here. Looks to me like either 
1. I send it to a repair shop in Athens. Anyone know one?
2. I take it in my bag to the UK and either service it myself or have it serviced.
3. Leave it on the boat and source the service kit in the UK and service it myself in the spring.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored off boatyard Kailadhia Greece
AML 54-019

On 1 Nov 2019, at 20:36, Will Stout via Groups.Io <tango708@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
I had the same issue after leaving Martinique for the state last year.  The CAT pumps are built in the USA and are rebuildable, however I was not able to find a dealer in the USA to rebuild mine.  After purchasing a new pump ($1,300) I learned that's almost every carwash in America has that pump and the folks who service carwashes will rebuild them for you.  BTW, they rebuild them in Martinique regularly. Mine failed after testing the high pressure switch, which was working just fine but of course ran the pressure up beyond normal operating pressure.

I notice that you are in Greece but I would still check with a local automated carwash about service.

Good Luck,

Will Stout,
Anni Bea True, SM180
For Sale in Annapolis

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Thomas Kleman
 

FYI- I just ordered 4 gear box tops from Kent's vendor in Annapolis for $100 each (no design work necessary so saved $50; thanks Kent). If you're buying this from Ronan, he now calls it "the Kent part".

Re: Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

99% works for me - thanks, Mark.

Re: Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

Mark McGovern
 

Craig,

I'm 99% sure it's M20 x 2.5 thread pitch.
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: 160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

karkauai
 

I rebuilt the 20 year old high pressure pump on my 24V D60 a few years ago with parts I got through Dessalator guy in Maine (Mark Fruehoff-Balcen Marine Technical Setvices-(207) 522-6737-info@...).  The parts cost ~$750US.  It wasn’t hard to do and has worked fine since.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:13 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Thanks Will. 
I reckon that the leak is from one of the oil seals on the crankcase. The pump works fine and has only 608 hours on it. 
However if I go to the trouble of taking it out then it should get a full service at the same time; new low and high pressure seals and valve check.
This is something that I could do myself so long as I have the parts...
I am hauling out on Monday; not sure I will find anyone here. Looks to me like either 
1. I send it to a repair shop in Athens. Anyone know one?
2. I take it in my bag to the UK and either service it myself or have it serviced.
3. Leave it on the boat and source the service kit in the UK and service it myself in the spring.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored off boatyard Kailadhia Greece
AML 54-019

On 1 Nov 2019, at 20:36, Will Stout via Groups.Io <tango708@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
I had the same issue after leaving Martinique for the state last year.  The CAT pumps are built in the USA and are rebuildable, however I was not able to find a dealer in the USA to rebuild mine.  After purchasing a new pump ($1,300) I learned that's almost every carwash in America has that pump and the folks who service carwashes will rebuild them for you.  BTW, they rebuild them in Martinique regularly. Mine failed after testing the high pressure switch, which was working just fine but of course ran the pressure up beyond normal operating pressure.

I notice that you are in Greece but I would still check with a local automated carwash about service.

Good Luck,

Will Stout,
Anni Bea True, SM180
For Sale in Annapolis

Re: Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Does anyone know the thread size of the drain plug? 

I'd like to use a short nipple with a hose on it to drain the oil into a proper container rather than a makeshift funnel or whatever that always gets messy. I'm using 90 weight oil so there's enough time after you remove the plug to screw in the nipple before the oil starts flowing.

Thanks,
Craig

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

karkauai
 

Hi Ian.  I first had new cabinet pulls made.  That worked out well, so when I had two good gear boxes with three broken covers (the plates on the top and bottom of the gear box), I had those printed, too.  So far they seem to be holding up well.
I agree that 3-D printing will become a very helpful tool with items that aren’t too complicated.  With multiple compound curves it requires a very sophisticated 3-D scanner that drives the cost up a lot, especially for small numbers.

I understand that 3-D printing can also be done with a variety of different metals, but haven’t had a need to try that yet.  Materials can add significantly to the cost as well.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:48 AM, ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:


Hi Kent,

 Which parts did you have made ?  3-D printing could play a huge role in replacing parts that are no longer in production.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: 01 November 2019 00:33
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Leroy Somer Spare parts
 
I had some made by 3D printing in nylon that seem to be holding up.  Contact Ronan at Pro 3D Printing Services +1 (410) 831-5891

They were $150 each with the cost of design work.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 30, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He paul ,
We ordert new gaerboxes in Italy and install one new .
It was not expencive
Only the leroy somer motor you ca order it only by amel
It was not possoble to order the motor  by leroy somer

When you intrested i will lock tomorow for some fotos and mre details

Best
Elja
SM Balu 222

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Lip Seals A54?? Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lip Seals Amel SM

Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
 

Hello,

Is there also a lipseal and maybe ballbearing list for the AMEL 54? 

Regards Oliver 
Vela Nautica 
A54#39 
Gibraltar 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 09:59 Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Mike  thank you 
Paul

Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Paul Osterberg
 

Mike  thank you 
Paul

Re: 160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks Will. 
I reckon that the leak is from one of the oil seals on the crankcase. The pump works fine and has only 608 hours on it. 
However if I go to the trouble of taking it out then it should get a full service at the same time; new low and high pressure seals and valve check.
This is something that I could do myself so long as I have the parts...
I am hauling out on Monday; not sure I will find anyone here. Looks to me like either 
1. I send it to a repair shop in Athens. Anyone know one?
2. I take it in my bag to the UK and either service it myself or have it serviced.
3. Leave it on the boat and source the service kit in the UK and service it myself in the spring.

Nick
S/Y Amelia anchored off boatyard Kailadhia Greece
AML 54-019

On 1 Nov 2019, at 20:36, Will Stout via Groups.Io <tango708@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
I had the same issue after leaving Martinique for the state last year.  The CAT pumps are built in the USA and are rebuildable, however I was not able to find a dealer in the USA to rebuild mine.  After purchasing a new pump ($1,300) I learned that's almost every carwash in America has that pump and the folks who service carwashes will rebuild them for you.  BTW, they rebuild them in Martinique regularly. Mine failed after testing the high pressure switch, which was working just fine but of course ran the pressure up beyond normal operating pressure.

I notice that you are in Greece but I would still check with a local automated carwash about service.

Good Luck,

Will Stout,
Anni Bea True, SM180
For Sale in Annapolis

Re: Prop antifouling

Mark Erdos
 

I second the Pettit spray below. This is bar far the best solution I have found for the prop.

 

Unfortunately, I also fell victim to the claims of Propspeed and completely wasted a couple of hundred dollars in Grenada. It barely lasted 3 months.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:40 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Prop antifouling

 

I tried PropSpeed 3 separate times. (They certainly are proud of that stuff!)

I had the same results as you. Very unsatisfactory. I tried everything, and finally found a decent solution.

image1.jpeg

I use the spray. About $35 US for a can.

I use the whole can on my underwater metal, usually 3 or 4 coats on the prop. I burnish the fully dried paint with a heavy duty scotch brite pad, to expose the zinc (not on the edges, but the flats of the blades).

In an entire season, not a single barnacle or growth of any kind on the prop. And the paint stayed adhered to my stainless prop. I don’t burnish the other underwater metals, and do have some growth on them, so the burnishing is important. I spray the prop once a year.

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Looking for advice- I'm doing a bottom job in 6 weeks. Last year I used Propspeed on my Autoprop and 6 months later there was no evidence of it.....the barnacles however were flourishing. While I enjoy diving I like it better without a scraper in my hand.  Given the cost of Propspeed, 6 months is unacceptable. Would love to know if there's something better out there.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422
Bocas del Toro Panama

Re: Drain plug for C-drive and Spurs

Mark Pitt
 

Thanks Mark and Bill.  I will add a second Dowty seal and some oil-resistant silicone sealant.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA


On Nov 1, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Mark,

The first picture is correct.  The second is not.

Olivier Beaute chimed in on this topic towards the end this thread:
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/33139860#47902

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: 160l/hr Water-maker hp pump

Porter McRoberts
 

This is really interesting news re the car wash. Pretty cool. Thank you!

Porter McRoberts 
A54-152. S/V IBIS
Opua. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Nov 2, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Will Stout via Groups.Io <tango708@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
I had the same issue after leaving Martinique for the state last year.  The CAT pumps are built in the USA and are rebuildable, however I was not able to find a dealer in the USA to rebuild mine.  After purchasing a new pump ($1,300) I learned that's almost every carwash in America has that pump and the folks who service carwashes will rebuild them for you.  BTW, they rebuild them in Martinique regularly. Mine failed after testing the high pressure switch, which was working just fine but of course ran the pressure up beyond normal operating pressure.

I notice that you are in Greece but I would still check with a local automated carwash about service.

Good Luck,

Will Stout,
Anni Bea True, SM180
For Sale in Annapolis