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Re: Maramu window ply interior removal

Ian Park
 

Yes, glued under the edge line of the wood then replaced it. I shaved the foam off the back of the vinyl that was behind the wood to ensure a good fit with the window again.
Ian


On 4 Nov 2019, at 08:55, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard@...> wrote:


this looks great! thanks for sharing and i like the smaller panels so might copy!
So re the headliner by the ply window trim  - did you glue this in place then replace the ply trim over the top as per the original installation?
All the very best
Miles

On Monday, November 4, 2019, 07:46:22 AM GMT, Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:


Miles
Photo of aft cabin with the panels held in place by screwed in battens.
The original decorative battens were fewer, but I have added more to make the panels smaller and more manageable. Works well. Self adhesive Velcro makes positioning easy until the battens are screwed in place.
> On 3 Nov 2019, at 21:23, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi there fellow Amelians
>
> Thanks to Ian on Ocean Hobo for describing how the interior ply window panels come out on his SN. Apparently remove window screws and bolts and the ply will come away with some persuasion. So in effect the window screws and through bolts hold the ply interior in place on the SN.
>
> Does anyone on the group have direct experience of this on a Maramu? Is it the same ?
>
>
> I have a troublesome leak on the main coach roof and it’s effecting  the ply around the windows and damaging the veneer. Grr.
>
> I am failing to locate the source . I think it’s from the handrail or the main hatch above the table so have tarped these and will apply a process of elimination but the answer probably lies in headliner removal
>
> The headliner ticks under the window ply so hence the question!
>
> I do wish Amel had used screwed into headliner panels. Seems to make so much sense for many reasons and wonder why they didn’t. Can’t imagine it was a cost cutting thing. Perhaps aesthetics but I’d trade those for simplicity. Perhaps the newer models have adopted this ?

>
> All the best and happy sailing for those afloat
>
> Miles
> Maramu 162
> In the hard !
> Plymouth uk

>
>
>


Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

smiles bernard
 

Hi there

Ours genoa 150% or perhaps even 160% when we purchased the boat

We reduced it to 135 with a new sail and that seemed like a good compromise to us and got us around the North Atlantic very well. 

We pull  the big old one out of retirement for the downwind trade winds passage East to West but at all other times used the 135%

If you go this route .... its well worth checking the smaller sail's clew is cut so it can still be poled out and reefed whilst poled etc 

Ours was cut high which worked well fo the poles but just too high so that I can’t reach the leech line or clew without gymnastics - also worth considering imo

As a related aside......my next trip ... (if it happens!) .... for downwind work we will use the 135% and have a dedicated 110ish% strong sail piston hanked onto a removable forestay for pole plus pole downwind work with double headsails

Ive done this before and tried other things like cruising chutes and small spinnakers but for simplicity it cant be beaten in my humble opinion. 

The main genoa on the furler as the throttle and the smaller bullet proof one hanked on and up for the whole passage (unless it gets seriously windy). 

I appreciate that SM have the choice of the double headsails up the same foil and the means to release this which looks pretty awesome so probably more of a consideration for vintage Maramu folk

All the best and happy sailing 

Miles

Maramu 162 1986

Re: Maramu window ply interior removal

smiles bernard
 

this looks great! thanks for sharing and i like the smaller panels so might copy!
So re the headliner by the ply window trim  - did you glue this in place then replace the ply trim over the top as per the original installation?
All the very best
Miles

On Monday, November 4, 2019, 07:46:22 AM GMT, Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:


Miles
Photo of aft cabin with the panels held in place by screwed in battens.
The original decorative battens were fewer, but I have added more to make the panels smaller and more manageable. Works well. Self adhesive Velcro makes positioning easy until the battens are screwed in place.
> On 3 Nov 2019, at 21:23, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi there fellow Amelians
>
> Thanks to Ian on Ocean Hobo for describing how the interior ply window panels come out on his SN. Apparently remove window screws and bolts and the ply will come away with some persuasion. So in effect the window screws and through bolts hold the ply interior in place on the SN.
>
> Does anyone on the group have direct experience of this on a Maramu? Is it the same ?
>
>
> I have a troublesome leak on the main coach roof and it’s effecting  the ply around the windows and damaging the veneer. Grr.
>
> I am failing to locate the source . I think it’s from the handrail or the main hatch above the table so have tarped these and will apply a process of elimination but the answer probably lies in headliner removal
>
> The headliner ticks under the window ply so hence the question!
>
> I do wish Amel had used screwed into headliner panels. Seems to make so much sense for many reasons and wonder why they didn’t. Can’t imagine it was a cost cutting thing. Perhaps aesthetics but I’d trade those for simplicity. Perhaps the newer models have adopted this ?

>
> All the best and happy sailing for those afloat
>
> Miles
> Maramu 162
> In the hard !
> Plymouth uk

>
>
>


Re: Maramu window ply interior removal

James Lochhead
 

Hi,

I removed the ply when I replaced the windows.  I have some photos but not with me.  There is a timber molding running the length of the window at the top and the bottom.  Removing that exposes nuts that go right through the window from the outside.  I will see if I can find some photos when I get home.


--

James
Maramu #147 (1984)

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

James Lochhead
 

Thanks.  150 does seem like alot.  I am not sure exactly the % lap on our current Genoa however the previous owner advised that when he replaced it he got it made smaller.  He said in hindsight that was a mistake.

We have been sailing a lot in SE Asia and could definitely made use of a larger Genoa at times.
--

James
Maramu #147 (1984)

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

James Lochhead
 

Thanks Karen.  I have reached out to Dave.
--

James
Maramu #147 (1984)

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

Ian Park
 

James
I replaced my 150% Genoa with a 130% in Trinidad.
Coming back across the Atlantic to UK the difference in size with the ballooner and poles set the difference in size was noticeable visually, but didn't affect downwind performance or boat balance.
I have thought that if/when I plan another ocean passage I would get another ballooner made to fit the Genoa track. Two lightweight sails make a lot of sense and would certainly be easier to store than a Genoa. I would just drop my 130 onto the deck and lash it to the rail. Easy enough in light downwind conditions.
The 130% performs much better here in UK weather conditions even when it's furled (with foam luff).

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: Maramu window ply interior removal

Ian Park
 

Miles
Photo of aft cabin with the panels held in place by screwed in battens.
The original decorative battens were fewer, but I have added more to make the panels smaller and more manageable. Works well. Self adhesive Velcro makes positioning easy until the battens are screwed in place.

On 3 Nov 2019, at 21:23, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi there fellow Amelians

Thanks to Ian on Ocean Hobo for describing how the interior ply window panels come out on his SN. Apparently remove window screws and bolts and the ply will come away with some persuasion. So in effect the window screws and through bolts hold the ply interior in place on the SN.

Does anyone on the group have direct experience of this on a Maramu? Is it the same ?


I have a troublesome leak on the main coach roof and it’s effecting the ply around the windows and damaging the veneer. Grr.

I am failing to locate the source . I think it’s from the handrail or the main hatch above the table so have tarped these and will apply a process of elimination but the answer probably lies in headliner removal

The headliner ticks under the window ply so hence the question!

I do wish Amel had used screwed into headliner panels. Seems to make so much sense for many reasons and wonder why they didn’t. Can’t imagine it was a cost cutting thing. Perhaps aesthetics but I’d trade those for simplicity. Perhaps the newer models have adopted this ?

All the best and happy sailing for those afloat

Miles
Maramu 162
In the hard !
Plymouth uk


salt water leaking out of speed sensor

Randall
 

Speed sensor. I have been on the hard for a few months now prepping to be splashed in 3 weeks.
I have water (salty) a very small amount seeping from the speed sensor at the front of the keel. My question is has anyone ever had to find the route to the sensor within the keel?

Randall,
A-54 #56

Furler Swivel - Santorin

Eric Meury
 

Furler swivel. Since I'm in the process of changing the rigging and the headstay is down I might as well do the swivel. Any tips. I dont have the parts on board to do this (or do I Robert Rossi). So I will need to order them. I'm the mean time any tips besides what is in bills book. Specifically we are having trouble getting the head stay out of the furler. Both are on the ground in one piece but no bushings dropped out as described from from previous owners. 1993 Santorin

Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

karkauai
 

I have had one of the “lids” for a year, and just got 2 more.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Hi Kent and Ian.

When we were in Shelter Bay marina Colon waiting to transit the Panama canal a staff member of the marina smashed one of the top plates trying to remove the central shaft. I only had two days before we transited and we found an egineeering shop in Colon who turned up a new one in aluminiun.

It  was perfect.

The breakage occured because he applied force instead of heat which is what I had asked him to do. Once the blow torch was subseqently applied the shaft came out easily.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 00:33 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Ian.  I first had new cabinet pulls made.  That worked out well, so when I had two good gear boxes with three broken covers (the plates on the top and bottom of the gear box), I had those printed, too.  So far they seem to be holding up well.
I agree that 3-D printing will become a very helpful tool with items that aren’t too complicated.  With multiple compound curves it requires a very sophisticated 3-D scanner that drives the cost up a lot, especially for small numbers.

I understand that 3-D printing can also be done with a variety of different metals, but haven’t had a need to try that yet.  Materials can add significantly to the cost as well.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:48 AM, ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

 Which parts did you have made ?  3-D printing could play a huge role in replacing parts that are no longer in production.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: 01 November 2019 00:33
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Leroy Somer Spare parts
 
I had some made by 3D printing in nylon that seem to be holding up.  Contact Ronan at Pro 3D Printing Services +1 (410) 831-5891

They were $150 each with the cost of design work.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 30, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He paul ,
We ordert new gaerboxes in Italy and install one new .
It was not expencive
Only the leroy somer motor you ca order it only by amel
It was not possoble to order the motor  by leroy somer

When you intrested i will lock tomorow for some fotos and mre details

Best
Elja
SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet




 


 

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

Karen Smith
 

James,

You might want to contact Dave Benjamin of Island Planet Sails.  He is a former Maramu owner, and is well familiar with the various Amel sails and how the originals fit the boat.  

Because of the unique features of the Amel, in general if you have someone asking you what size jib you want, you can be pretty sure they don't really know what the boat should have or how it should work. This is especially true of boats that use the Amel downwind rig.  You can't vary your sail size and have it work well.

Maramu window ply interior removal

smiles bernard
 

Hi there fellow Amelians

Thanks to Ian on Ocean Hobo for describing how the interior ply window panels come out on his SN. Apparently remove window screws and bolts and the ply will come away with some persuasion. So in effect the window screws and through bolts hold the ply interior in place on the SN.

Does anyone on the group have direct experience of this on a Maramu? Is it the same ?


I have a troublesome leak on the main coach roof and it’s effecting the ply around the windows and damaging the veneer. Grr.

I am failing to locate the source . I think it’s from the handrail or the main hatch above the table so have tarped these and will apply a process of elimination but the answer probably lies in headliner removal

The headliner ticks under the window ply so hence the question!

I do wish Amel had used screwed into headliner panels. Seems to make so much sense for many reasons and wonder why they didn’t. Can’t imagine it was a cost cutting thing. Perhaps aesthetics but I’d trade those for simplicity. Perhaps the newer models have adopted this ?

All the best and happy sailing for those afloat

Miles
Maramu 162
In the hard !
Plymouth uk

Circuit break switch panel LED back lighting

David Crisp
 

Hi All,

 

Most of the blue LEDs that back light the labels on the AC and DC circuit breaker switch panels are not working.  Wilna Grace is 12 years so it’s either age or not being suitable for the variance in voltage variance (I’m thinking of the 28V one gets when charging batteries). I’m not aboard at the moment so does anyone know the specification of these LED (voltage, luminance etc.)?  I’ll buy some component replacements and then get the soldering iron out and fit them when I get back aboard.

 

Best

David

SV Wilna Grace

Amel 44

Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

Bill Fletcher
 

My MARAMU sn 179 has a 150 headsail that was copied from the original. I am currently sailing South Pacfic and I am thinking of replacing it with a 130. The reason any wind over 15 knots it needs to be reefed to 130 or 100 And the boat preforms better.  My two cents. 
Bill Fletcher 
SN 179


On Nov 3, 2019, at 1:18 AM, James Lochhead <j_lochhead@...> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know the %overlap on the original sailplan for the Maramu.  Ours is hull number #147 year 1984.

James

Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Mike Ondra
 

Thanks Paul.

I appreciate the updates to the list.

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lip Seals Amel SM

 

I have updated with a few lip selas and some O rings
Paul

Re: Prop antifouling

JOHN HAYES
 

That is my experience too ie I do it myself. I follow the instructions carefully and it outlasts ablative antifouling

Best

John


On 3/11/2019, at 10:13 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Thanks Ross and Donna. Looks like I need to do it myself cause the pros charge and isnt working.

Regards

Danny

On 03 November 2019 at 22:02 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna




Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 

 


 


 

Re: Prop antifouling

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Ross and Donna. Looks like I need to do it myself cause the pros charge and isnt working.

Regards

Danny

On 03 November 2019 at 22:02 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna




Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 

 


 


 

Re: Prop antifouling

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 

Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

James Lochhead
 

Hello,

Does anyone know the %overlap on the original sailplan for the Maramu.  Ours is hull number #147 year 1984.

James