Re: Supermaramu wire sizes?

Dan,

Yes, the Amels that I have seen have increased the size of the wiring.

You might want to look at this:https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/tools/dc-to-ac-amperage-conversion-run-through-an-inverter.html
3000 watts = 13.64 amps of 220 volts:

So the short answer is, assuming that the 24 volt wiring for the 100 charger watt was designed for 100 amps. You should NOT use that wire because you should expect a maximum of around 140 amps. Not good! So, replacement is going to be required. Since replacement is required, calculate the wiring size needed for the inverter/charger using an online calculator...here is one:  https://www.solar-wind.co.uk/info/dc-cable-wire-sizing-tool-low-voltage-drop-calculator

I am not sure about the length of the cable run...I used 12 feet...it could be 15 feet.

The result above shows required wire is 120 mm2 = 12.4mm diameter, which is about 1/2" diameter

Hope this helps.

--
 CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  Website:

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hi Bill, yes I'm well aware of the different cable sizing standards.  But was looking for the reference data for the actual cables in the SM.

The existing cables are well shielded and have shrink wrap covering right up to the terminal lug so the actual wire is not accessible for direct measurements.

I am just trying to understand the sizes with respect to the various loads.  Several of boats have talked  of replacing the original Dolphin 100A with a 3000watt Victron Multi or Quatro and I wanted to understand the impact in terms of current load and voltage drop potential.

Regards, Daniel Carlson

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 7:04 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@... wrote:
Dan,

I am sure that you know this: In Europe the wire is sized in square mm.

You might want to measure the diameter of the existing wire, calculate the area of the cross-section in square mm, then if you need AWG, use an online conversation chart to get to AWG. Here is one:

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 5:32 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello SM owners,

Does anyone know the original
wire sizes for the following:
1) 100 amp charger to battery switch
2) 30 amp charger to battery switch
3) Battery switch to bow thruster

The wiring does not appear to be labeled. And I'm not a good judge by eye.

I'm in Panama right now trying to search the forum from my phone with my cell connection isn't working for me.

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on SM #387, sv BeBe

Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit

Sv Garulfo

Dear Amelians

- the TF Marine pump is identical to the amfa reya marina zz?
- the maintenance kit provided by amel is a TF marine or marine ZZ? (Or are they the same?)
- @jose, did you use the TF Marine kit on an Amfa marina zz or TF Marine pump?

Regards
Soraya
Garulfo A54-122
Tahuata, Marquesas, French Polynesia

On 16 Sep 2019, at 12:30, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:

Dear fellows

If anyone needs a new pump or a maintenance kit, contact:

Francesca give me 6-8 weeks for a new pump:

Diaphragm pump TM 50 24V DC 0,12Kw

With body pump in PVC - 460 €

Francesca give too 10 days :

Spare parts kit for TM 50 complete of:

2 membranes

2 valves

1 o-ring - 40 €

Kindest regards

Re: Supermaramu wire sizes?

Dan Carlson

Hi Bill, yes I'm well aware of the different cable sizing standards.  But was looking for the reference data for the actual cables in the SM.

The existing cables are well shielded and have shrink wrap covering right up to the terminal lug so the actual wire is not accessible for direct measurements.

I am just trying to understand the sizes with respect to the various loads.  Several of boats have talked  of replacing the original Dolphin 100A with a 3000watt Victron Multi or Quatro and I wanted to understand the impact in terms of current load and voltage drop potential.

Regards, Daniel Carlson

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 7:04 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@... wrote:
Dan,

I am sure that you know this: In Europe the wire is sized in square mm.

You might want to measure the diameter of the existing wire, calculate the area of the cross-section in square mm, then if you need AWG, use an online conversation chart to get to AWG. Here is one:

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 5:32 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello SM owners,

Does anyone know the original
wire sizes for the following:
1) 100 amp charger to battery switch
2) 30 amp charger to battery switch
3) Battery switch to bow thruster

The wiring does not appear to be labeled. And I'm not a good judge by eye.

I'm in Panama right now trying to search the forum from my phone with my cell connection isn't working for me.

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on SM #387, sv BeBe

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Gerhard Mueller

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 03:39 PM, Paul Stascavage wrote:
Thank you Gerhard.  From the description I am not sure if the overall length is 22mm or if the hole to hole dimension is 22mm.

Have you purchased this item or can you verify that the hole to hole dimension is 20mm?

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring Brunswick, GA

www.RitaKathryn.com
Actually I am not on the boat for measuring.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: Greasing stegring cables

Arthur Sundqvist

Thank you. Bill...
Kindest regards
Arthur

Skickat från min iPhone

23 nov. 2019 kl. 14:52 skrev CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

﻿
The cables are sealed.

The racks and pinion have to be disassembled to add grease.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 7:32 AM Arthur Sundqvist <arthur@...> wrote:
How and where do I Grease the Steering Cables?
arthur sundqvist
sm435. Vista
Fair winds.....

Re: Heaving-to experiences/advice, and Jordan series drogue use

rossirossix4

As others have noted, good descriptions in our Group.  Also.... http://www.oceannavigator.com/March-April-2011/Prepare-for-survival-conditions/

Bob,KAIMI SM429

Re: Greasing stegring cables

The cables are sealed.

The racks and pinion have to be disassembled to add grease.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 7:32 AM Arthur Sundqvist <arthur@...> wrote:
How and where do I Grease the Steering Cables?
arthur sundqvist
sm435. Vista
Fair winds.....

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Paul Stascavage

The ones I saw at sailrite were all either 22mm hole to hole or just under 16mm.

I'll take another look.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring Brunswick, GA

www.RitaKathryn.com

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Craig Briggs

Hey Paul - Can't help you with the fasteners, but if you're exploring Brunswick, GA this is an absolute must visit." A short walk from the marina. Cheers, Craig

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Paul Stascavage

Thank you Gerhard.  From the description I am not sure if the overall length is 22mm or if the hole to hole dimension is 22mm.

Have you purchased this item or can you verify that the hole to hole dimension is 20mm?

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring Brunswick, GA

www.RitaKathryn.com

Greasing stegring cables

Arthur Sundqvist

How and where do I Grease the Steering Cables?
arthur sundqvist
sm435. Vista
Fair winds.....

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

If you are in the US www.sailrite.com

If delivery to the rest of the world freight and VAT will be added.

Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998

Skickat från min iPhone

23 nov. 2019 kl. 09:39 skrev Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...>:

Re: Heaving-to experiences/advice, and Jordan series drogue use

Alexander Hofmann

Hi Kent,
What Eric on Kimberlite reports is really impressive - and completely in line with what I have heard from other sailors with gale / storm / hurricane experiences.
What our Amel's do stand and perform in heaving-to is already more than amazing, but the Jordan Sea Drogue is 'the saviour'.
I have decided now finally to install one.
For questions of the bridle (I have a bring at the Stern for solar / wind turbines / dinghy) and retrieval and where to buy I will contact Eric directly.
Once again thanks a lot and happy saling with JSD onboard without taking her out!
Alexander
SY Oceanica I, Amel54 #156

Re: Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Gerhard Mueller

Bimini Twist Lock Fastener

Paul Stascavage

Good day to all.

Has anyone located a source for the Twist Lock Fasteners that are mounted on the hard dodger for locking down the bimini side curtains and the tonneau cover?

I can only find ones whose center hole to center hole measurement for the mounting screws, is either larger or smaller than the 20mm ones that we have on our boat.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring Brunswick, GA

www.RitaKathryn.com

Re: Supermaramu wire sizes?

Dan,

I am sure that you know this: In Europe the wire is sized in square mm.

You might want to measure the diameter of the existing wire, calculate the area of the cross-section in square mm, then if you need AWG, use an online conversation chart to get to AWG. Here is one:

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 5:32 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello SM owners,

Does anyone know the original
wire sizes for the following:
1) 100 amp charger to battery switch
2) 30 amp charger to battery switch
3) Battery switch to bow thruster

The wiring does not appear to be labeled. And I'm not a good judge by eye.

I'm in Panama right now trying to search the forum from my phone with my cell connection isn't working for me.

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on SM #387, sv BeBe

Supermaramu wire sizes?

Dan Carlson

Hello SM owners,

Does anyone know the original
wire sizes for the following:
1) 100 amp charger to battery switch
2) 30 amp charger to battery switch
3) Battery switch to bow thruster

The wiring does not appear to be labeled. And I'm not a good judge by eye.

I'm in Panama right now trying to search the forum from my phone with my cell connection isn't working for me.

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on SM #387, sv BeBe

Re: Heaving-to experiences/advice, and Jordan series drogue use

karkauai

Alexander, search this forum for Jordan Drogue and you will find detailed post from Eric on Kimberlite about using one in hurricane conditions.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 22, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Alexander Hofmann <DACJ@...> wrote:

﻿Thanks Alan, Miles,
I am happy to learn from your experiences in heaing-to with the staysail and the mizzen. I did not use the mizzen yet for that, and it is just very logic that you can balance the Amel ketches with both sails in a heaving-to situation.
Many long distance sailors, also singled-handed ones, report excellent experiences in really rough seas, even far upon 50 kts, with the Jordan sea drogue. Some spak About life saving. I plan to install one. Does anybody have experiences with the Jordan Sea Drogue on an Amel ketch? How does it perform? How do you retrieve it?
Thanks, happy to hear from you.
Alexander
SY Oceanica I, Amel54 #156

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Kurt Wetzel

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 02:45 PM, Willem Kroes wrote:

Van: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 december 2018 12:10
Aan: amelyachtowners@...
Onderwerp: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

you can get the original Bonfiglioli gears for about 86 Euros from Sotek - sales@... - talk to Daria, she speaks english - you will have to ask for BONTVF44A100P63B1
4B3
RIDUTTORE VF 44 A-100 P63 B14 B3. version "P"!!!!!

fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d’As
Mallorca/Spain

Re: Heaving-to experiences/advice, and Jordan series drogue use

Alexander Hofmann

Thanks Alan, Miles,
I am happy to learn from your experiences in heaing-to with the staysail and the mizzen. I did not use the mizzen yet for that, and it is just very logic that you can balance the Amel ketches with both sails in a heaving-to situation.
Many long distance sailors, also singled-handed ones, report excellent experiences in really rough seas, even far upon 50 kts, with the Jordan sea drogue. Some spak About life saving. I plan to install one. Does anybody have experiences with the Jordan Sea Drogue on an Amel ketch? How does it perform? How do you retrieve it?
Thanks, happy to hear from you.
Alexander
SY Oceanica I, Amel54 #156

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