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Re: Boatwide Power Loss

Andy Croney
 

Good to hear you have solved the issue Dennis ,
Thanks for sharing- will check whether we also have the fuse ...!!
Merry Caribbean Christmas
Andy
Maramu Paladin #75

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the details on your new autopilot, very helpful. 

We were docked right next to your boat at Caraibe Greement while we were getting a new rig.  I hope we do get a chance to get together, but we will probably have moved on by then. 

Duane

Boatwide Power Loss

sbmesasailor
 

For any of you who were interested in my inquiry (several weeks ago) about total power loss on my Maramu when a loose alternator cable shorted out, I solved the problem.  I wasn't in any hurry as it's winter in Santa Barbara and after several years sailing between the 20th parallels I've become a warm weather sailor, so my diagnosis was spread out over several days.  At any rate, in case anyone else has a similar event, check your main house battery switch terminals.  I had a 300A fuse on the red cable terminal that blew.  An $8 fix -whew.  Now I got to get that alternator re-installed....

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121

Re: Mango aft cabin bulkhead?

rob dillmann
 

Dear Daniel,

Our Mango has an aft cabin bulkhead with watertight door. No stern aft lazarette though, just a smaller locker on the port side.

Best regards,
Rob Dillmann
Westwind Mango nr 43

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 20 dec. 2019 om 01:24 heeft Daniel Alexander Thompson <Thompson.Xander@...> het volgende geschreven:

Would gratefully receive any replies. 

1. Do the Mangos have an aft cabin door bulkhead like the SM does. 

2 Do the Mangos have a watertight lazarette stern collision compartment?

Best wishes

Re: Mango aft cabin bulkhead?

Alan Ogilvie
 

Hi,
1. Yes there is a full watertight bulkhead door between aft cabin and passage way forward as in a SM. 

2. the lazarette at stern is probably half the width of the stern more to port, but there is therefore a significant part of stern without a water tight lazarette crash zone.

hope that helps

alan
Gorodish
Mango nr 52
about to leave Grand Canaria for Caribbean 

Mango aft cabin bulkhead?

Daniel Alexander Thompson
 

Would gratefully receive any replies. 

1. Do the Mangos have an aft cabin door bulkhead like the SM does. 

2 Do the Mangos have a watertight lazarette stern collision compartment?

Best wishes

Re: Customs Form?

John Clark
 

Hi Duane,
  direct answer to your question is I don't know, and don't think you need one for a part you already own.   But....I suggest you inquire at Douglas Yacht Services. (DYS)  Doug Rapier is a French Customs agent (speaks english) and is familiar with the issues facing yachties.    His office is near the pizza ...well used to be pizza I think it is Brazilian steak now ...anyway near Mango Bay Restaurant and Carib Marine.  I am sure he can point you int he right direction at least.

             Regards,  John Clark

SV Annie  SM #37
Brunswick GA

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:55 AM Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm at the Fedex office in Martinique, and they tell me I need a US Customs form that requires my boat info to send a part back to the USA.  Does anyone know where I would get the form on the internet?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Customs Form?

Duane Siegfri
 

The Commercial Invoice form?  That requires a Tax ID number and other information geared toward a business sale.  Am I missing something?

By the way i failed to note we're sending the part back for repair.

Thanks,
Duane

Re: Customs Form?

galacsea galacsea
 

They are supposed to give to you as kit is available on their own website.
See below:
https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/international/create-documents.html?cmp=KNC-1001816-11-10-950-1110000-US-US-EN-NBZ0001Z01ZINTL&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgO_VtJrC5gIVhZOzCh2W0A9uEAAYASAAEgJ82vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

Thomas Peacock
 

Hi Duane,

Lots of good suggestions on trouble-shooting your bad AH. We had major problems with the non-mechanical part of the system, and decided to replace, keeping the Raymarine AH drives by the rudder and in front of the wheel. 

The Raymarine ACU-400 was a very simple plug and play solution. The computer fit in nicely above the galley sink near the AH that drives the wheel. A new fluxgate (actually, part compass, part inertial guidance) unit fits in well behind the dining settee, similar to the old unit. The cockpit display/control is a standard size display similar to the depth/wind gauges. Your call as to where to put it. 
I made the mistake of not replacing the old rudder sensor, as it appeared identical to the new one. However, there were some control issues with it that then disappeared when I replaced it with the new rudder sensor. 
The ACU-400 does allow for 12V clutch operation.
You will have to run proprietary Raymarine networking in order to connect the fluxgate, computer, and display; the Raymarine network easily interfaces with NMEA-2000.

I see you are in Martinique. My boat is in the marina in Le Marin, I am returning January 11 if you are still around.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Martinique 

On Dec 18, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk@...> wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't each drive have a clutch?  Our boat has two drive units, a linear and a rotary.  We have the same error for both drives so I doubt that both clutches / drives failed simultaneously.

The clutch works when the "Auto" button is engaged since you cannot turn the wheel.  I connected the "Power" wires directly with the "Motor" wires outside of the Course Computer and the motor ran.  So both the clutch and motor is operable.  The problem is when "Auto" is engaged, no voltage is being sent to the "Motor" wires.  Dan Gerhardt replied to me already and I'm sending him the Course Computer tomorrow.  I'll let y'all know what happens.

Again, thanks for all the thoughtful replies!
Duane

Screw at filter. ZF25. Gearbox

Arthur Sundqvist
 

I just can not move the filterscrew on filtertop at my ZF25 gearbox. The top plate will crack if I put möte power. I want to change the filter.....
Has Anyone has this issue????
fair winds
arthyr sundqvist
sm435
vista

Customs Form?

Duane Siegfri
 

I'm at the Fedex office in Martinique, and they tell me I need a US Customs form that requires my boat info to send a part back to the USA.  Does anyone know where I would get the form on the internet?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Dripless shaft seal

James Alton
 

Arlo,

I am glad to hear that you have found a solution that you are happy with. Best of luck with the new SS shaft and the Lasdrop gen11 seal, it sounds like an interesting design. Maybe if you think about it, let us know how this worked out for you in the future. For now I will stay with the original bronze box and teflon packing since the maintenance in my case has been very minimal and I think the system is well proven and safe. I am curious if the reduction on friction in going from a traditional stuffing box to a seal could have any noticeable effect on fuel consumption, that might be a plus in going with a seal type unit over traditional packing. I also wonder which is better for stainless shaft, the seal or the packing in regards to crevice corrosion. I have seen more than a few SS shafts that had pitting which may have been related to the Graphite packing that was used in those cases. So far the boxes packed with the Teflon only (sometimes the Graphite is added to the Teflon) that I have maintained have not shown any pitting.

Best,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

eric freedman
 

Duane,

You are absolutely correct. Each drive has a clutch.

Therefore, I would check the wiring as the fault is on both drives. Possibly the rotary switch that connects one drive or the other. The Course computer is definitely a suspect. One time my S3G started to seek and not head in the direction that the control head was set for. I spent over a hour with Raymarine on the phone trying to calibrate the computer.. They said I was doing something wrong.  I said I will just swap out the course computer with my spare.

They said I would have to recalibrate it. It did lock on immediately without calibration.

 

I sent it to the chief poobah at Raymarine and he found a cold solder joint on the circuit board.

Problem solved.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:49 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Raymarine Autopilot

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't each drive have a clutch?  Our boat has two drive units, a linear and a rotary.  We have the same error for both drives so I doubt that both clutches / drives failed simultaneously.

The clutch works when the "Auto" button is engaged since you cannot turn the wheel.  I connected the "Power" wires directly with the "Motor" wires outside of the Course Computer and the motor ran.  So both the clutch and motor is operable.  The problem is when "Auto" is engaged, no voltage is being sent to the "Motor" wires.  Dan Gerhardt replied to me already and I'm sending him the Course Computer tomorrow.  I'll let y'all know what happens.

Again, thanks for all the thoughtful replies!
Duane

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

Duane Siegfri
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't each drive have a clutch?  Our boat has two drive units, a linear and a rotary.  We have the same error for both drives so I doubt that both clutches / drives failed simultaneously.

The clutch works when the "Auto" button is engaged since you cannot turn the wheel.  I connected the "Power" wires directly with the "Motor" wires outside of the Course Computer and the motor ran.  So both the clutch and motor is operable.  The problem is when "Auto" is engaged, no voltage is being sent to the "Motor" wires.  Dan Gerhardt replied to me already and I'm sending him the Course Computer tomorrow.  I'll let y'all know what happens.

Again, thanks for all the thoughtful replies!
Duane

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

eric freedman
 

I would also check the drive belt for missing teeth and the planetary gear. If you do not have the bronze gears in the drive section I would change them out.

Did you try applying Dc to the clutch to make sure it is engaging, its 12 volts. I would also try putting voltage to the drive motor.

 

It is a rather simple device and should not be difficult to repair. I also recall somewhere way back in my memory that I had an issue with the screw in the center of the clutch, a little too tight or loose and the drive showed an error.

.

 

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 5:41 PM JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:

Duane

 

We had 2 problems in our Raymarine auto helm

Which we sorted in the mid pacific

1 the springs holding the carbon brushes on the armature needed tightening to apply more pressure 

 

2 when we pulled the actuator arm to bits the tiny ball bearings were dry so we filled the arm and ball bearings with lithium grease and reassembled 

 

It has gone ever since with us sailing another 4000 miles

 

I have also purchased a new motor unit as a Spare part ein the USA for peace of mind. While dealing with the issue I noticed in the hand book that the unit should be sent to an autohelm agent for service every two years

 

Seasons greetings 

 

John Hayes

 

Nga Waka sn 141

 

Wellington 

 New Zealand 



On 19/12/2019, at 9:13 AM, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Hi, have a look at brushes dust inside linear drive to avoid bad electrical connections. That happened to me.

All the best to all

GIOVANNI

Eutikia SM2k 428

Inviato da iPhone


Il giorno 18 dic 2019, alle ore 19:13, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> ha scritto:

Hi Duane,

I'm fairly sure it was the wires to the drive motor that had the corroded connections , not the rudder sensor. The techs advising me did all those diagnostics too. Its not a hard job to check all connections.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 19 December 2019 at 06:40 "Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io" <carlylelk@...> wrote:

Danny,

Thanks for your reply, but I'm sure it's not the rudder sensor.  Raymarine gave me the resistance between various pairs of the four rudder sensor wires and they were all within spec.  If there was corrosion the resistance would be too high.

Thanks,
Duane

Re: Dripless shaft seal

Arlo
 

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:10 PM, Arlo wrote:
Great minds think alike. Your comment about the tides hose use with a traditional stuffing box and the additional resistance was exactly my concern as well. I called Tides technical support this morning at 2 different times and spoke to 2 different people and they said yes it will work fine. They apparently have these hoses special made for them and that the straight tube hoses are stiffer than the traditional rubber hose. The hose is supposed to be delivered tomorrow so I will check it out then. If I am not comfortable with the hose, then I will call Buck Algonquin and ask their thoughts on using the 2 1/4 hose with some t handle clamps...my only other really viable option if neither of those pan out is to change my drive shaft over to stainless and go with a metric sized dripless system. Not a bad option but it the traditional box has worked well for 35 years and fewer failure points.... Danny suggested I call Monster hose in Miami, I have used them before, but they didnt have any 4 or 5 ply hose in stock of the 2 and 1/8 size. I am suprised that I am the first one that has had trouble in the US with this....surely.other mango, maramu, or sanitorian owners have replaced their shaft tube hose.... will post tomorrow if the hose comes in and include some pics

Great tip on the drill bits and yes I agree with the stuffing recommendation!

Thanks 
Arlo

 Hello all. I posted more details under the topic of "stern tube hose"  but the short version is I decided to go with a Lasdrop gen II and a new stainless steel propshaft.

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

 


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On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 5:41 PM JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:
Duane

We had 2 problems in our Raymarine auto helm
Which we sorted in the mid pacific
1 the springs holding the carbon brushes on the armature needed tightening to apply more pressure 

2 when we pulled the actuator arm to bits the tiny ball bearings were dry so we filled the arm and ball bearings with lithium grease and reassembled 

It has gone ever since with us sailing another 4000 miles

I have also purchased a new motor unit as a Spare part ein the USA for peace of mind. While dealing with the issue I noticed in the hand book that the unit should be sent to an autohelm agent for service every two years

Seasons greetings 

John Hayes

Nga Waka sn 141

Wellington 
 New Zealand 


On 19/12/2019, at 9:13 AM, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Hi, have a look at brushes dust inside linear drive to avoid bad electrical connections. That happened to me.
All the best to all
GIOVANNI
Eutikia SM2k 428

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 18 dic 2019, alle ore 19:13, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> ha scritto:

Hi Duane,

I'm fairly sure it was the wires to the drive motor that had the corroded connections , not the rudder sensor. The techs advising me did all those diagnostics too. Its not a hard job to check all connections.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 19 December 2019 at 06:40 "Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io" <carlylelk@...> wrote:

Danny,

Thanks for your reply, but I'm sure it's not the rudder sensor.  Raymarine gave me the resistance between various pairs of the four rudder sensor wires and they were all within spec.  If there was corrosion the resistance would be too high.

Thanks,
Duane

Re: Stern tube hose

Arlo
 

Hello all.....well we did the haulout on Sunday and had the mechanic come by on Tuesday and pull the prop, prop shaft and cutlass bearing. As it turns out the bronze drive  shaft was significantly worn (really deep grooves) where the original stuffing box was located. This coupled with the fact that the Tides silicon hose just didnt make me feel comfortable I decided to get a new stainless drive shaft. I have also decided to proceed with the Lasdrop gen II dripless shaft seal. Everything should be done by early January. I am also taking the opportunity to have the drive shaft alternator rebuilt, replace the alternator belt and get a spare on the shaft and clean and paint the bilge...if anyone does solve the shaft tube hose issue, I am still interested in how and this group would be a great place to post it for the benefit of others...I appreciate everyone's help. Will post pics and cost when the job is done.

Re: Raymarine Autopilot

JOHN HAYES
 

Duane

We had 2 problems in our Raymarine auto helm
Which we sorted in the mid pacific
1 the springs holding the carbon brushes on the armature needed tightening to apply more pressure 

2 when we pulled the actuator arm to bits the tiny ball bearings were dry so we filled the arm and ball bearings with lithium grease and reassembled 

It has gone ever since with us sailing another 4000 miles

I have also purchased a new motor unit as a Spare part ein the USA for peace of mind. While dealing with the issue I noticed in the hand book that the unit should be sent to an autohelm agent for service every two years

Seasons greetings 

John Hayes

Nga Waka sn 141

Wellington 
 New Zealand 


On 19/12/2019, at 9:13 AM, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Hi, have a look at brushes dust inside linear drive to avoid bad electrical connections. That happened to me.
All the best to all
GIOVANNI
Eutikia SM2k 428

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 18 dic 2019, alle ore 19:13, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> ha scritto:

Hi Duane,

I'm fairly sure it was the wires to the drive motor that had the corroded connections , not the rudder sensor. The techs advising me did all those diagnostics too. Its not a hard job to check all connections.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 19 December 2019 at 06:40 "Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io" <carlylelk@...> wrote:

Danny,

Thanks for your reply, but I'm sure it's not the rudder sensor.  Raymarine gave me the resistance between various pairs of the four rudder sensor wires and they were all within spec.  If there was corrosion the resistance would be too high.

Thanks,
Duane