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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
martin haméline
Hi warren,
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What Windvane do you use? Was just looking at a monitor .. Cheers Martin Hameline
On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Il Dom 29 Dic 2019, 19:41 Warren Traill <trailz@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Hi Warren, of course a pilot mounted on the wheel will never have the power of a fixed one installed on the rudder. However, I still have his original Neco driver who is not kidding in terms of power, although the electronics are 40 years old, so quite stupid! The Navico is mounted sideways and does not create problems with the bulkhead. You have to test based on the pilot you want to buy. I use it as a reserve in the event of an emergency going by motor, if unfortunately the Neco breaks. When sailing, I use the wind vane which has all the power and sensitivity I need on any occasion. However, what I can tell you is that the Sharki is a well balanced and light boat at the helm and if you hoist the right sail, even a pilot on the wheel could get along quite well. However, if you intend to face big journeys you must have a powerful and reliable pilot and not just a pilot on the wheel.
Il Dom 29 Dic 2019, 19:41 Warren Traill <trailz@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Gerhard Mueller
My Sharki has still the original equipped Neco 392 autopilot. The best autopilot I ever have seen and used. It works even with wind and waves from backwards when most autopilots fails and gave up. Sadly the Neco are not manufactured anymore. When you see a used one for selling buy it.
-- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Hi Giorgio. I also own a Sharki. I've been sailing with no autopilot for some years now in SE Asian waters. I am seriously considering a wheel mounted pilot but am constantly advised that they would be unsuitable for a vessel of the size of the Sharki and also because of the close proximity of the wheel to the bulk head.
On 30 Dec 2019 1:33 a.m., Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
On my Sharki I installed a Windpilot that also works as an emergency rudder. No problem with mizzen. Then I also have a Navico electronic pilot installed externally on the steering wheel. The idea of having all the spare parts of a Raymarine seems good, but a friend of mine this year during the crossing from Cabo Verde to Martinique broke the wheel rack and had to helm a SM for 1300 miles with the emergency bar! If you don't want to install a wind pilot I highly recommend you try installing a Raymarine directly on the rudder. Best Giorgio Ardrizzi - Sharki # 1 In Prickly Bay, Grenada
Il Dom 29 Dic 2019, 11:34 Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> ha scritto: I belive the mitzen boom will end with the deck it is no problem to insal a wind vane on my old euros 39 it was instalt one an sailomat 3040
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
I belive the mitzen boom will end with the deck it is no problem to insal a wind vane on my old euros 39 it was instalt one an sailomat 3040
If you like the salilomat sen me a mail Best Elja SM 222 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Great advice.
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Exactly what we do, except for selling it later. We let our spare go with the boat when we sold it. We found all of the components, used, but serviceable, on line.... ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:35 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
There are 5 components to your Raymarine autopilot system: Control Head Course Computer Drive Unit Fluxgate Compass Rudder Reference A failure of any component can cause the system to fail. Individual components are easy and fast to install. Maybe you should consider having one of each of the components ready to go. You will likely have to search for a used Control Head and Computer, and can probably find the other components in new condition. The used components can probably always be sold again for what you will pay for them. What I suggest is like "renting" a backup system at zero cost. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 6:36 AM Volker <Puchta@...> wrote: Dear all,
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Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot
Dear all,
hope everyone did have a great Chrismas and will have a good start into 2020. We are starting to prepare our Sharki for the long passage from Europe to the Caribbean. Up to now we have sailed her in the Netherlands and Baltic sea and the installed Autohelm ST6000 autopilot worked quite well. But crossing an ocean, I think we should have a second backup system. Especially as we are a small crew of just two persons. I know that Amel did install on the bigger models two autopilots, but I have never seen a second autopilot installed on a Sharki. The space in the aft cabin next to the rudder quadrat is quite limited. Even when a compact drive unit Like the Jefa DD15 may fit in, I am not sure whether it will work smoothly. We also thought about wind pilots, but also not sure there as mizzen boom seems to long and may hit the wind vane. Would be great to get some input from other Sharki owers Best regards, Volker S/Y MickMoon - Sharki #176
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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth
Not that much of a long shot. Bill was on my boat in October and spotted the same thing. Once I re-sealed the cable from the Genoa furler my forward lockers dried right up. Amazing how much water can leak down that cable!
Dave -- Dave Kurtz SM2 #380 S/V Celtic Cross Detroit, Michigan
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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth
It could be the hatch seals on the port bow locker.... if you get water over the bow and the hatch seals are leaking, the water will wick down the security rope ans ewnd up on the wall of that small internal locker.
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth
Thanks James and Bill. I’ll see where that cable goes and check it out. James, I’d hoped you’d have a magic potion that would take the salt right out. Maybe potatoes or rice? :-)
Kent & Iris S/V Kristy SM 243 On Dec 28, 2019, at 6:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote: Kent, I assume that you have eliminated obvious sources like hatch and fixed plexiglass ports. So...this may be a long shot, but, check the RTV seal on the cable from the Genoa furler where it meets the stainless tube. I have seen water enter here and follow the cable until it bends, then drip-drip. There could be enough salt on the cable and deck to make it taste salty. Like I said, the above is a long shot. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 4:23 PM James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth
Kent, I assume that you have eliminated obvious sources like hatch and fixed plexiglass ports. So...this may be a long shot, but, check the RTV seal on the cable from the Genoa furler where it meets the stainless tube. I have seen water enter here and follow the cable until it bends, then drip-drip. There could be enough salt on the cable and deck to make it taste salty. Like I said, the above is a long shot. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 4:23 PM James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth
James Alton
Kent, Sorry to hear about the wet carpet and mildew problem. Since the carpet is soaked with salt water, you must remove the salt or else the carpet will stay forever damp since salt can pull moisture out of the air. Rinse with fresh water as best you can. Suck out as much of the water as possible with a wet/dry vacuum then dry the carpet with a dehumidifier and fans. I would probably use a mild bleach solution to kill the mold and of course rinse everything that the bleach was applied to with fresh water since the bleach is corrosive. Best of luck. James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220
On Dec 28, 2019 5:02 PM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote: Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.
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Water in far forward cubby in V berth
Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.
we have just discovered very damp carpeting in the open storage space all the way forward on the port side of the V Berth (next to the shelves over the bow thruster). The water is mostly on the forward wall shared by the port bow locker (where the security rope comes thru to cleat the locker hatch down.) It is salty to taste. The bow locker is dry (for the first time in two years since I replaced the seals ;-)> ). Needless to say the mildew is already starting to grow. Other than we vacuuming the carpet as best I can, and treating for mold, would you do anything else to the carpeting? Any ideas where this water might be getting in? Thanks for any thoughts. Happy New Year! Kent & Iris S/V Kristy SM 243 Palm Beach FL heading S
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Re: Water heater troubleshooting
Paul, I should have said, to first look for a loose or corroded connection. CorrosionX is your friend. --
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:31 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Re: Water heater troubleshooting
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks Bill, I’ll check that. The entire heater was replaced 5 years ago.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
If I had this problem, I would check for 220VAC at the heating element terminals. If you have 220VAC at the terminals, it is the heating element, which is not difficult to change on a 54 Isotemp Basic. It is also the most common failure with a life of 6-12 years, depending on use. Best,
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 9:28 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Water heater troubleshooting
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Paul;
We had the same issue December 2016 while winter sailing in Greece (Not a great idea by the way). We decided to change the entire unit due to age and other potential problems that could pop up later. It was a 4 hour job, but ended up with a new unit that should be trouble free for years. There were signs of corrosion in other parts in the tank, but the tank itself seemed to be in fair shape. The new tank also has a mixing valve that allows cold water to be mixed in at the outlet of the water heater preventing scalding hot water to be delivered to the faucets. It also makes the water heater more efficient by not filling the water supply line with max temperature hot water, every time you turn on the hot water at the faucet.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 7:29 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Water heater troubleshooting
Hi All,
My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.
Cheers, and Season’s Greetings! Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Water heater troubleshooting
If I had this problem, I would check for 220VAC at the heating element terminals. If you have 220VAC at the terminals, it is the heating element, which is not difficult to change on a 54 Isotemp Basic. It is also the most common failure with a life of 6-12 years, depending on use. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 9:28 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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