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Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth

David Kurtz
 

Not that much of a long shot.  Bill was on my boat in October and spotted the same thing.  Once I re-sealed the cable from the Genoa furler my forward lockers dried right up.  Amazing how much water can leak down that cable!

Dave
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Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380 
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan

Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth

Alan Leslie
 

It could be the hatch seals on the port bow locker.... if you get water over the bow and the hatch seals are leaking, the water will wick down the security rope ans ewnd up on the wall of that small internal locker.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 

Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth

karkauai
 

Thanks James and Bill.  I’ll see where that cable goes and check it out.  James, I’d hoped you’d have a magic potion that would take the salt right out.  Maybe potatoes or rice? :-)

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy 
SM 243


On Dec 28, 2019, at 6:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Kent,

I assume that you have eliminated obvious sources like hatch and fixed plexiglass ports. So...this may be a long shot, but, check the RTV seal on the cable from the Genoa furler where it meets the stainless tube. I have seen water enter here and follow the cable until it bends, then drip-drip. There could be enough salt on the cable and deck to make it taste salty.

Like I said, the above is a long shot. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 4:23 PM James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,
  Sorry to hear about the wet carpet and mildew problem.  Since the carpet is soaked with salt water, you must remove the salt or else the carpet will stay forever damp since salt can pull moisture out of the air.  Rinse with fresh water as best you can.  Suck out as much of the water as possible with a wet/dry vacuum then dry the carpet with a dehumidifier and fans.  I would probably use a mild bleach solution to kill the mold and of course rinse everything that the bleach was applied to with fresh water since the bleach is corrosive.  Best of luck.  

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


On Dec 28, 2019 5:02 PM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.

we have just discovered very damp carpeting in the open storage space all the way forward on the port side of the V Berth (next to the shelves over the bow thruster).  The water is mostly on the forward wall shared by the port bow locker (where the security rope comes thru to cleat the locker hatch down.)  It is salty to taste.  The bow locker is dry (for the first time in two years since I replaced the seals ;-)> ).

Needless to say the mildew is already starting to grow.

Other than we vacuuming the carpet as best I can, and treating for mold, would you do anything else to the carpeting?

Any ideas where this water might be getting in?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Happy New Year!
Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy SM 243
Palm Beach FL heading S

Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth

 

Kent,

I assume that you have eliminated obvious sources like hatch and fixed plexiglass ports. So...this may be a long shot, but, check the RTV seal on the cable from the Genoa furler where it meets the stainless tube. I have seen water enter here and follow the cable until it bends, then drip-drip. There could be enough salt on the cable and deck to make it taste salty.

Like I said, the above is a long shot. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 4:23 PM James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,
  Sorry to hear about the wet carpet and mildew problem.  Since the carpet is soaked with salt water, you must remove the salt or else the carpet will stay forever damp since salt can pull moisture out of the air.  Rinse with fresh water as best you can.  Suck out as much of the water as possible with a wet/dry vacuum then dry the carpet with a dehumidifier and fans.  I would probably use a mild bleach solution to kill the mold and of course rinse everything that the bleach was applied to with fresh water since the bleach is corrosive.  Best of luck.  

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


On Dec 28, 2019 5:02 PM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.

we have just discovered very damp carpeting in the open storage space all the way forward on the port side of the V Berth (next to the shelves over the bow thruster).  The water is mostly on the forward wall shared by the port bow locker (where the security rope comes thru to cleat the locker hatch down.)  It is salty to taste.  The bow locker is dry (for the first time in two years since I replaced the seals ;-)> ).

Needless to say the mildew is already starting to grow.

Other than we vacuuming the carpet as best I can, and treating for mold, would you do anything else to the carpeting?

Any ideas where this water might be getting in?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Happy New Year!
Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy SM 243
Palm Beach FL heading S

Re: Water in far forward cubby in V berth

James Alton
 

Kent,
  Sorry to hear about the wet carpet and mildew problem.  Since the carpet is soaked with salt water, you must remove the salt or else the carpet will stay forever damp since salt can pull moisture out of the air.  Rinse with fresh water as best you can.  Suck out as much of the water as possible with a wet/dry vacuum then dry the carpet with a dehumidifier and fans.  I would probably use a mild bleach solution to kill the mold and of course rinse everything that the bleach was applied to with fresh water since the bleach is corrosive.  Best of luck.  

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


On Dec 28, 2019 5:02 PM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.

we have just discovered very damp carpeting in the open storage space all the way forward on the port side of the V Berth (next to the shelves over the bow thruster).  The water is mostly on the forward wall shared by the port bow locker (where the security rope comes thru to cleat the locker hatch down.)  It is salty to taste.  The bow locker is dry (for the first time in two years since I replaced the seals ;-)> ).

Needless to say the mildew is already starting to grow.

Other than we vacuuming the carpet as best I can, and treating for mold, would you do anything else to the carpeting?

Any ideas where this water might be getting in?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Happy New Year!
Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy SM 243
Palm Beach FL heading S

Water in far forward cubby in V berth

karkauai
 

Hi everyone, hope you are all having a great holiday and sailing season.

we have just discovered very damp carpeting in the open storage space all the way forward on the port side of the V Berth (next to the shelves over the bow thruster).  The water is mostly on the forward wall shared by the port bow locker (where the security rope comes thru to cleat the locker hatch down.)  It is salty to taste.  The bow locker is dry (for the first time in two years since I replaced the seals ;-)> ).

Needless to say the mildew is already starting to grow.

Other than we vacuuming the carpet as best I can, and treating for mold, would you do anything else to the carpeting?

Any ideas where this water might be getting in?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Happy New Year!
Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy SM 243
Palm Beach FL heading S

Re: Water heater troubleshooting

 

Paul,

I should have said, to first look for a loose or corroded connection. CorrosionX is your friend.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:31 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill, I’ll check that. The entire heater was replaced 5 years ago.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 27 December 2019 11:41
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Water heater troubleshooting

 

If I had this problem, I would check for 220VAC at the heating element terminals. If you have 220VAC at the terminals, it is the heating element, which is not difficult to change on a 54 Isotemp Basic. It is also the most common failure with a life of 6-12 years, depending on use.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 9:28 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.

 

Cheers, and Season’s Greetings!

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Water heater troubleshooting

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Bill, I’ll check that. The entire heater was replaced 5 years ago.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 27 December 2019 11:41
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Water heater troubleshooting

 

If I had this problem, I would check for 220VAC at the heating element terminals. If you have 220VAC at the terminals, it is the heating element, which is not difficult to change on a 54 Isotemp Basic. It is also the most common failure with a life of 6-12 years, depending on use.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 9:28 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.

 

Cheers, and Season’s Greetings!

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Water heater troubleshooting

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Paul;

 

We had the same issue December 2016 while winter sailing in Greece (Not a great idea by the way). We decided to change the entire unit due to age and other potential problems that could pop up later. It was a 4 hour job, but ended up with a new unit that should be trouble free for years. There were signs of corrosion in other parts in the tank, but the tank itself seemed to be in fair shape. The new tank also has a mixing valve that allows cold water to be mixed in at the outlet of the water heater preventing scalding hot water to be delivered to the faucets. It also makes the water heater more efficient by not filling the water supply line with max temperature hot water, every time you turn on the hot water at the faucet.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 7:29 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Water heater troubleshooting

 

Hi All,

 

My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.

 

Cheers, and Season’s Greetings!

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Water heater troubleshooting

 

If I had this problem, I would check for 220VAC at the heating element terminals. If you have 220VAC at the terminals, it is the heating element, which is not difficult to change on a 54 Isotemp Basic. It is also the most common failure with a life of 6-12 years, depending on use.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 9:28 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.

 

Cheers, and Season’s Greetings!

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Water heater troubleshooting

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi All,

 

My hot water heater has stopped heating the water. I’m guessing its either the thermostat or the heating element. Would anyone be able to give me a pointer as to how best to find out which one is at fault? The heater is an Isotemp Basic type 40HXCV.

 

Cheers, and Season’s Greetings!

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Christmas

Arlo
 

Merry Christmas !

Re: Christmas

Duane Siegfri
 

Merry Christmas Fanny & Yvonne, and to all on the forum. 

Duane
Wanderer, SM477

Re: Screw at filter. ZF25. Gearbox

Duane Siegfri
 

I you haven't yet, start applying a penetrating product like PB Blaster to it every day and crank the screw in both directions to help the product penetrate.  Heating the screw with a torch, letting it cool and repeating will help break the rusted parts apart too.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Christmas

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Many thank and same back to you

JPG


On 25/12/2019, at 7:14 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Hi All,

I would like to wish you all a happy and safe Christmas, where ever you may be and all the best for the new year.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Christmas

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi All,

I would like to wish you all a happy and safe Christmas, where ever you may be and all the best for the new year.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Re: Taking down masts for a run up the Hudson River and Erie Canal

Matt Salatino
 

12 feet! Then you’re gold!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 24, 2019, at 9:14 AM, David Kurtz via Groups.Io <Davidwkurtz@...> wrote:

That's what I understand.  The New York Canal System website says the canal is at least 12 foot deep throughout.
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan

Re: Taking down masts for a run up the Hudson River and Erie Canal

David Kurtz
 

That's what I understand.  The New York Canal System website says the canal is at least 12 foot deep throughout.
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan

Re: Taking down masts for a run up the Hudson River and Erie Canal

Matt Salatino
 

The canal is a wonderful, scenic trip.
Does it have the depth you require?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 24, 2019, at 5:15 AM, David Kurtz via Groups.Io <Davidwkurtz@...> wrote:

I'm getting ahead of myself a little, but next spring I will be making a 500 nm run up across New York's Erie Canal.  What has everyone done when it comes to pulling down both masts and storing them on deck for a river and canal trip like this?  I know that the lowest bridge only has 15 foot of clearance.  I also intend to use this opportunity for mast maintenance, painting, etc.

Thanks in advance!
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan

Taking down masts for a run up the Hudson River and Erie Canal

David Kurtz
 

I'm getting ahead of myself a little, but next spring I will be making a 500 nm run up across New York's Erie Canal.  What has everyone done when it comes to pulling down both masts and storing them on deck for a river and canal trip like this?  I know that the lowest bridge only has 15 foot of clearance.  I also intend to use this opportunity for mast maintenance, painting, etc.

Thanks in advance!
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan