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Re: New companionway lock source

ERIC LICHTY & ROBYN ATKINSON
 

Hello group, Eric and Robyn here, recent owners of SM Libby in the Pacific NW.  Regarding keys, we had best match from local keysmith, close, but didn't work.  With eyeball filing to work out difference from original we got the new ones to work.  Good luck and happy New year.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 13:14 Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:
Hello all. So while my boat is hauled out and getting some work done I thought I would get some other smaller projects addressed. Anyone have any luck sourcing a new companionway lock? I am having difficulty getting a duplicate key made and thinking it may be easier to simply get a whole new lock.... mine measures about 81 x 36 mm. We are in the U.S.

Re: New companionway lock source

David Kurtz
 

I did exactly that only 3 months ago when I purchased my SM2.  Any good locksmith will have matching blanks.  I believe it was a Yale lock.  The Home Depot/Walmart locksmiths were not able to match it, however.
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan

Re: New companionway lock source

Alan Leslie
 

It's a French key and the blanks are hard to find outside France.
Maude sav at amel dot fr used to have them in stock...worth a try.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: New companionway lock source

James Alton
 

Arlo,

There have been some past discussions on the boards about sourcing key blanks so you might try searching. From what I have gathered, apparently Amel used a few different ones depending on the model. I ordered the Hy-Ko Key Blank Ez #Y2 single sided from Amazon for my own boat after reading that these fit some of the boats. They did not fit my Maramu but apparently they fit some or perhaps all of the SM’s based on what I read. They were only about $8 for a pack of 10. I managed to find the keys I needed for my boat in Montenegro so even those are still out there.

Best,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Preveza, Greece

Re: New companionway lock source

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Arlo,

 

If you do a search in the Amel Group forum for “Companionway Key” This message will should up and help you.

 

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/message/35917?p=,,,50,0,0,0::Created,,companionway+lock,50,2,0,29767180

 

 

 

And this one for Ace Hardware in Ft. Lauderdale:

 

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/message/35912?p=,,,50,0,0,0::Created,,Companionway+key,50,2,0,29767180

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlo
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:14 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New companionway lock source

 

Hello all. So while my boat is hauled out and getting some work done I thought I would get some other smaller projects addressed. Anyone have any luck sourcing a new companionway lock? I am having difficulty getting a duplicate key made and thinking it may be easier to simply get a whole new lock.... mine measures about 81 x 36 mm. We are in the U.S.

Re: New companionway lock source

Thomas Peacock
 

Hi Arlo,

Are you in a SM? Hull number? Always helpful.

If a SM. indeed the key blanks can be hard to locate. The big box hardware stores do not carry them. I have had luck in two separate old-time, rusty and musty hardware stores that recognized the blanks immediately. Or you could try a locksmith. The smaller hardware stores and locksmiths, even if they don’t have the blanks, might special order them for you, albeit for a little more money. I would still think a better option than a new lock.

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Martinique



On Jan 2, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello all. So while my boat is hauled out and getting some work done I thought I would get some other smaller projects addressed. Anyone have any luck sourcing a new companionway lock? I am having difficulty getting a duplicate key made and thinking it may be easier to simply get a whole new lock.... mine measures about 81 x 36 mm. We are in the U.S.

New companionway lock source

Arlo
 

Hello all. So while my boat is hauled out and getting some work done I thought I would get some other smaller projects addressed. Anyone have any luck sourcing a new companionway lock? I am having difficulty getting a duplicate key made and thinking it may be easier to simply get a whole new lock.... mine measures about 81 x 36 mm. We are in the U.S.

Re: Recommentation for Sharki second autopilot

Aras <aras.grinius@...>
 

On my Sharki I have a Simrad AP28 CONTROLLER, RAYMARINE MOTOR mounted just above in the galley. It came with the boat. I also had a 2nd unit which was a RAYMARINE 3000 wheel mount.

I trashed the 3000. The mount interfered with helmsman, and was only good in calm conditions.

Re: Damp in Sharki aft Cabin bulkhead

rob dillmann
 

We had the same problem with our Mango. The source was water ingress through the mizzen, following the cables of the radar and the vhf. These pass through an opening in the bulkhead and can be inspected by removing the mirror in the aft heads. Possibly this is the same in the sharki.
Regards,
Rob Dillmann
Westwind Amel Mango 43

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jan. 2020 om 01:18 heeft Warren Traill <trailz@...> het volgende geschreven:



Yes we have that problem. And have tried waterweld in the corners of each cavity. It has made a difference.
However now that we are in monsoon season the water ingress has increased.
I am now considering fitting  a lid to the top cavity to reduce the water intake.
Also I am now wondering if it's possible that water could be entering the bulkhead through the inside of the mast. Is this possible?
I'll be following this subject with great interest.

On 31 Dec 2019 1:31 a.m., marklesparkle59 <marklesparkle59@...> wrote:
Has any other Sharki owner experienced moisture getting into the aft cabin bulkhead from the mizzen pockets? How did you deal with it?

Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki 96

Re: Damp in Sharki aft Cabin bulkhead

Warren Traill
 

Yes we have that problem. And have tried waterweld in the corners of each cavity. It has made a difference.
However now that we are in monsoon season the water ingress has increased.
I am now considering fitting  a lid to the top cavity to reduce the water intake.
Also I am now wondering if it's possible that water could be entering the bulkhead through the inside of the mast. Is this possible?
I'll be following this subject with great interest.

On 31 Dec 2019 1:31 a.m., marklesparkle59 <marklesparkle59@...> wrote:
Has any other Sharki owner experienced moisture getting into the aft cabin bulkhead from the mizzen pockets? How did you deal with it?

Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki 96

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

You and me too Alan.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 31 December 2019 at 21:32 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

YES check all the hoses and connections, of course.
I'm very curious to know what goes on in that compartment!
What's the black seacock for?
And the yellow/black hose and the orange thingy and the black bizzo with the wires attached.
The only things I recognise are the white hose and the speed and depth xdcrs!
Cheers...and Happy New Year !
Alan
Elyse
SM437

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

 

Lucy & Chris,

More than likely the water accumulation is because the bow thruster needs servicing with tube seal replacements, or you have sailed the boat without using the locking pin to secure the bow thruster in the UP position, or maybe you sailed with the bow thruster in the DOWN position. Whatever the cause, the accumulated water is likely not the only thing you need to address. Things like seals, rust on the base of the motor, and possibly a bow thruster tube frozen to the base of the motor. I don't mean to scare you, but you probably need some help. 

Maybe we should discuss this. I offer 1 hour of consulting at no cost to you: 1 hour free consulting Let me know. brouse@... 

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 5:59 AM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
You can buy in-expensive battery powered water alarms from Amazon.  Place one in this compartment and you will get a quick reminder when you leave the bow thruster down, un-pinned or the seals no longer keep the water out. 

If you really bash into the waves for a while, some sea water may be forced past the bow thruster seals even when they keep it out in other conditions. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 8:11 PM Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io <lucyannepearce=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io wrote:
Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Dan Carlson
 

You can buy in-expensive battery powered water alarms from Amazon.  Place one in this compartment and you will get a quick reminder when you leave the bow thruster down, un-pinned or the seals no longer keep the water out. 

If you really bash into the waves for a while, some sea water may be forced past the bow thruster seals even when they keep it out in other conditions. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 8:11 PM Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io <lucyannepearce=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io wrote:
Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Ian Park <sunbeat2@...>
 

The seacock should be the sea water intake for the toilet. If you have closed the sea cock the pump won’t work.
The black and yellow tubing looks like fresh water pipe work with a pump and in line filter......?
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Mark Erdos
 

Is it fresh water or salt-water?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 10:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

 

Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Alan Leslie
 

YES check all the hoses and connections, of course.
I'm very curious to know what goes on in that compartment!
What's the black seacock for?
And the yellow/black hose and the orange thingy and the black bizzo with the wires attached.
The only things I recognise are the white hose and the speed and depth xdcrs!
Cheers...and Happy New Year !
Alan
Elyse
SM437

Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

karkauai
 

Sorry to hear you’re having water in your bilge, Lucy&Chris.

Tom is right on all counts, fortunately it has been rare for others to have the sink plumbing failures...here are a couple other tips:
EverySM owner has experienced this at some time in his/her ownership.  The vast majority of the time it is the bow thruster.  If the water tastes salty, that’s almost certainly the problem.  If not, a leak from the anchor wash pump.  If it’s not salty, condensate from the forward AC that gets out of the pan (it’s supposed to drain into the grey water piping), or a leak in the shower or sink plumbing.

Be sure to clean and rinse the bilge well, so that you’ll be able to do the “taste test” the next time you find water there.

The seacock in the bilge there is where sea water enters the head and the anchor wash.

Another thing you will find is that when heeled over some of that water will slosh over the stringers where it is unreachable.  The next time you’re heeled over some will slosh back into that part of the bilge again.  Per Danny’s wise recommendation, I keep an old towel there to catch that sloshed water until it isn’t showing up any more.

If it is the most-likely bow thruster, there are good posts and files here that will help you adjust the up- limit of the thruster (if you’re lucky that’s all you’ll have to do), and change the seals.
Be sure to raise the thruster before you motor or sail at more than a knot or two, as that can deform the lip seal around the carbon fiber tube that houses the shaft and exits the boat.  Other than age (most change the oil and seals every 2 years at haulout for bottom painting) I think forgetting to raise the thruster is likely the cause of leaking.

Happy New Year to All!!!

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy SM 243
Palm Beach, FL, heading S after NY

On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:36 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

I have earned a PhD in the subject of water in the bilge next to the forward head. 
If you don’t see any obvious egress from the hoses there, then the most likely source is the bow thruster. If you are sure that it isn’t there, I would then check the anchor wash pump and its connections. Both those areas drain down into that bilge. 
 Other possibilities include the forward air conditioner condensate and plumbing related to the sink. 
In my case, it was all four of those, each solved one at a time. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Martinique

On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io <lucyannepearce@...> wrote:

Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000
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Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Thomas Peacock
 

I have earned a PhD in the subject of water in the bilge next to the forward head. 
If you don’t see any obvious egress from the hoses there, then the most likely source is the bow thruster. If you are sure that it isn’t there, I would then check the anchor wash pump and its connections. Both those areas drain down into that bilge. 
 Other possibilities include the forward air conditioner condensate and plumbing related to the sink. 
In my case, it was all four of those, each solved one at a time. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Martinique

On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io <lucyannepearce@...> wrote:

Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000
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Re: Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Paul Brown
 

Feel under all the hoses and fittings, perhaps there’s a leak there, process of elimination 

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II A55/17

On 31 Dec 2019, at 13:11, Lucy Pearce sv Starfish via Groups.Io <lucyannepearce@...> wrote:

Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
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Super Maramu 2000 - Water in bilge hall way compartment

Lucy Pearce sv Starfish
 

Hi

We have found a fair amount of water in the bilge compartment under the hallway between the forward head and cabin.(where the depth sounder and speed gauge are located)

The toilet pump has stopped working, whether this is because of the water in there, or whether a broken pump has caused water to accumulate here I don’t know.

Does anyone know what the valve/stopcock is in this bilge compartment or offer any advice?

many thanks in advance

Lucy and Chris
Starfish HIN 238 Super Maramu 2000