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Re: Too many VHF aerials?
Why do you say too many? Are they interfering with each other. We have two on te main mast and one on the mizzen; AIS, VHF and WeatherFax. They seem to get along. In my marina the is currently a motorboat with 11 of these white sticks, make me wonder what they are for. But it also has 4 domes and 2 Radars. The owner must be very important :-)
Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage
Porter McRoberts
Thank to Oliver and also to Scott. Great question!
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Porter A54-154 Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com
On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: Batteries
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
We bought a set of deep cycle lead acid batteries from West Marine in Newport Rhode Island in 2009, got 8 years out of them. They would have lasted longer if I hadn't messed up by leaving the freezer open and switched on when I left the boat on its mooring for 6 weeks. I leave two fridges on to use the power from wind gen and solar but hit the wrong breaker. They were labelled "West Marine". I replaced them with Trojans in New Zealand Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 08 January 2020 at 04:15 Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage
Although not fitted with a Volvo or a 54, Cream puff is fitted with a Vetus Waterlock muffler. Even if you do not have the Vetus model, the setup for the water-lock is probably very similar. The muffler is fitted with a drain screw. Undoing this screw while underway would absolutely eliminated any chance of water back-flowing into the engine. If you opt to do this, it might be advisable to attach a hose pointed toward the bilge. And, of course, do not run the engine with the water-lock drain open.
So, for those of you not wanting to run the engine at all while underway on long passages, this is an alternate option.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Re: Too many VHF aerials?
Ryan Meador
Hi Mark, Do you have a Class A VHF? Those are the type that use two antennas for DSC, but I've never seen one in the flesh -- most recreational boats use Class D, with a shared antenna. On our boat, we have one antenna on each mast. The main mast is split between the nav station VHF and AIS, and the mizzen is connected to the helm VHF. Both VHFs have DSC. This setup has worked well for us. If the splitter fails, it's easy to connect the nav station VHF directly to the radio, and I believe we also have a jumper between the helm and nav station so we can swap the antennas to either radio by plugging a few wires (that's what the wire is labeled as by the previous owner... I haven't tried). And we also have a handheld as a third backup. I think having the AIS on the main mast for better range outweighs any drawbacks of having a splitter. Ryan and Kelly SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:10 PM Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
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Too many VHF aerials?
marklesparkle59
On my main mast there is the main VHF Radio aerial, on the mizzen are the DSC aerial and the Emergency VHF aerial and I would like to add an AIS aerial to avoid a splitter. I am considering replacing the Emergency aerial with the AIS and using a bolt on emergency. How have other owners coped with or avoided this proliferation?
Mark Porter Sea Hobo SHARKI #96 CARDIFF Marine Village
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Re: Windsreen replacement
Hi Paul,
Last spring I got an offer to have them replaced for a little over 900 euro by: SARL caraibe menuiserie le Carénage
97290 LE MARIN
Tél : 0596537663
Tél portable : 0696257604
Fax : 0596537663
Site web :
Email : serge@... I was not able to get to Martinique at that time so I have no idea about quality, etc. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Too many VHF aerials?
Thomas Peacock
Hi Mark, The main mast antenna is hooked up to our VHF analog radio. That radio also has a button for DSC (the D standing for digital), but I always assumed that the DSC signal was transmitted via the same antenna as the analog VHF signal, not on a separate antenna. At least, when I installed the radio, there was only one antenna output terminal on the radio, so I don’t see how it would use two antennas. Our mizzen antenna hooks up directly to the AIS transceiver, no other devices use it. If the either VHF antenna failed, we also have a spare antenna on board that could be partially hoisted for elevation. Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Martinique
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Re: Batteries
Is this Dr. James Cromie? Kim and I were just talking about you and wondered if you and your lovely family ever made it down. We hope you are doing well and your parents are at peace with your sailing adventures 😉. Hope to cross paths and catch up. We are heading back to St.Martin by early February then a leisurely pace south to Trinidad by end of season. Happy new year! All the best, Chuck and Kim
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:53 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Too many VHF aerials?
marklesparkle59
On my main mast there is the main VHF Radio aerial, on the mizzen are the DSC aerial and the Emergency VHF aerial and I would like to add an AIS aerial to avoid a splitter. I am considering replacing the Emergency aerial with the AIS and using a bolt on emergency. How have other owners coped with this proliferation?
Mark Porter Sea Hobo SHARKI #96 CARDIFF Marine Village
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Re: Batteries
James Cromie
Chuck - By the way, I’m enjoying espresso several times a day ever since I picked up the same machine that I saw on your boat back in Cuttyhunk!
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More Caffeine = more projects done in a day and more productive deck hands! Best, James
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Re: Batteries
Thanks James. I am in contact with them and like the Trojans. Can't seem to find them in stock on the island so might have to ship. Thanks Chuck Joy #388
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:28 AM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage
Scott SV Tengah
Fantastic information from Olivier. Thank you. I presume the flap is a specific Amel part or can we buy it elsewhere? I am totally for supporting Amel but the shipping costs from France get a bit high for a small part. :)
On another note, what is the general guideline for using the Volvo D3-110 and the Onan when the boat is heeled over? I do recall reading the Onan spec that it shouldn't be used at more than 10 degrees constant with short bursts to 20degrees. I can definitely hear a change in genset note when the boat is rolling and it is not related to the exhaust outlet going underwater. Back in my car racing days, I was very aware of oil starvation when the oil sloshes to the side of the oil sump while cornering. The solution there was either baffles (helps) or a dry sump. Is this a concern with our marine engines/genset? -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Batteries
Christian HUBER <chr.huber@...>
Hi,
I bought 5 batteries by this supplier in Puerto Rico last year and they were very helpful. https://www.interstatebatteries.com/locations/all-battery-center-san-juan-pr?utm_source=referral&utm_campaign=llm Regards and happy new year to Amel's Family Christian Huber, Amel Santorin 089
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Re: Batteries
James Cromie
Hi Chuck - I purchased a full set of Trojan 31XHS and a DEKA 1231 starter battery from DCBattery “dot” com. They provided excellent service and shipped them all to Aruba for only $230. The trojans were $205 each, and the DEKA was $135. I thought it was a good deal to get the exact batteries I wanted. Shipping to PR and any taxes should be even easier. All batteries arrived in good condition based upon personally load testing them and manufacture dates were the same month as delivery to me. contact was Danny Rojas: danny “at” dcbatter “dot” com Best, James
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Re: Batteries
Have not tried West Marine. Looking for lead acid deep cycle. Preferably Trojan good price good battery. Thanks for your reply. Chuck Joy #388
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Windsreen replacement
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi all and Happy New Year!
Would anyone know if it is possible to get a replacement perspex windscreen made in Martinique?
Cheers, Paul
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Batteries
Have you tried the local Costco? West Marine? It may help if you state the type of batteries you seek.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Behalf Of Chuck_Kim_Joy
Greetings All and Happy New Year! In Puerto Rico now and looking for batteries. Can anyone recommend a supplier. Hoping Gary S. will pipe in I know he spends a lot of time here. Thanks in advance.
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Batteries
Greetings All and Happy New Year! In Puerto Rico now and looking for batteries. Can anyone recommend a supplier. Hoping Gary S. will pipe in I know he spends a lot of time here. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage
Thank you Olivier great information I appreciate it very much
Cheers
Courtney
sv Trippin
54#101
Secret Harbour
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From: Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>; main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2020 6:16 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage Happy New Year to all of you happy AMEL owners,
In severe conditions, on a port tack, the waves slapping the portside may push some seawater into the main engine exhaust through-hull fitting. This is why AMEL installs (in SMs since 1993 and AMEL 54 and 55) an anti-return rubber flap (not a one way valve) into a stainless steel box, close to the hull. However, even if this system works fine, it is recommended to run the engine twice a day (or more, depending on the conditions) in order to blow out the water that could accumulate in the VETUS muffler.
If the rubber flap is damaged/old/out of shape, it could let more water in. This is something you can check (with your hand or a picture from outside). I would replace it every 2000 hours or 10 years.
At sea, if you want to check if water has accumulated in the VETUS muffler, you may open the plug located at the bottom, and let the water drain.
I'm not sure there are so many engines damaged by sea water entering the exhaust line. However, there are other causes for water to get into the cylinders:
-a leaking water maker high pressure circuit can make a seawater mist/drizzle that will be sucked at once if the engine is running at the same time. Water will get into the cylinders through the air intake valves
-trying to start the engine (cranking) without firing will cause the muffler to fill up with seawater that will not be blown out because of no exhaust gas. Once the muffler is full, water may get into the cylinders through the exhaust valves
Last point, the anti-siphon system cannot prevent water from getting into the exhaust line. It is designed in order no water can be sucked from the intake line, and once the engine is off, in order the line drains into the muffler, and water does not keep above the engine for a long time. This is also a check point (does the water drip out of the cockpit while the engine is running?).
Starting the engine once a day (or twice in bad conditions/port tack) is not a big deal and will keep you sure that the engine is OK.
I cannot imagine that you AMEL owners, sail on a passage without running the engine for a week or more...
AMEL does not give the same advice concerning the generator because they consider that you need to run the generator twice a day (on a passage). For those who now rely only on solar panels, wind generators and water generators, I strongly recommend that you start the genset also once or twice a day (in bad conditions) in order to blow out the water that could accumulate in its muffler.
Happy sailings and fair winds all along 2020.
Olivier
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 10:09:54 AM GMT+1, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:
Same instruction for Amel 54 with Volkswagen 140 tdI
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162
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