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Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Doug Smith
 

First time emailer to the group. Love it!  Stalking and learning, first, and now one of those newbie owners!  Purchased last month, after quite a few months of reading old email threads. 
Keeping it open demonstrates what a great fellowship of learning and sharing that is native to this group. Helped me to know what I was getting into with such a huge investment. 

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113 Aventura
Dugsmith98@...


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Courtney and Porter,

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Grenada 🇬🇩 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

Looking forward to this solution as I am interested in other than mechanical truly AMEL related issues/items whether T-shirts, Vlogs, Blogs, books etc.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

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January 24, 2020 10:16:12

 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Limiting group members to Amel Owners

 

Courtney and Porter,

 

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

 

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

svTrippin

54 #101

Grenada 🇬🇩 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 

Porter McRoberts 

A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

 

There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

marty hameline
 

Thank you Porter!
We are in the middle of closing on our Amel Mango now. 
This user site totally convinced us of the value Amel represents and appreciating the Amel Cult following. 
We are confident in the purchase and know the highest resale value awaits when we retire our cruising life in 15 years. 
Thanks for everyone’s experiences. 
Cheers 

Martin hAMELine



On Jan 24, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

 

Courtney and Porter,

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Grenada 🇬🇩 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Courtney Gorman
 

I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Grenada 🇬🇩 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Porter McRoberts
 

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Davi Rozgonyi
 

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

David Cummane
 

Mark and Paul.  Spot on.    More respect for ‘moderator’ Bill wouldn’t go amiss either.  The forum is a non commercial, excellent resource for Amel owners, being information based and apolitical, with clear guidelines for use.  Opinions on so called commercial enterprises are irrelevant and should be barred.

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

David

Ker Marie
SM#101



On 23 Jan 2020, at 21:36, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

My 2 cents on this:
 
I prefer not to have my feed from this group junked up with people selling Amel shirts, books on Amel travels, blogs with Amel owners, video channels featuring Amels etc. 
 
While I’m sure Julie is a nice person and is passionate about her book, this is not the forum for self-promotion. She needs to establish a commercial fund to promote her book rather than trying the self promote “free” route at our expense. She can, at no-charge start a fan-club page on FaceBook, promote her page using paid ads and grow her membership. People wishing to follow her awaiting for the trilogy can do so. 
 
This is what is stated on the front page of our group:
This Group frowns on commercial postings, however we encourage postings which will genuinely help Amel owners source needed parts and services. We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:54 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Crossing Pirate Waters
 

I am with Brian and most of the others in support of Julie's posting.  Her book is about sailing an Amel and that makes all of the difference.  I too would not have known about it without her first post many months ago. I bought her book and enjoyed reading it in part due to the Amel angle.

   Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

On 1/23/2020 4:48 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:
I do not think anyone argued the value of Julie's book. Some people wrote to me about it because they felt it was too commercial.  "Too" is in the mind of individuals i
 
We are currently working on a solution that will satisfy those for and against promoting commercial interests. We envision creating a sub-group for commercial postings that members would need to opt-in to the group.
 
I may be a few days or a few weeks.

--
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  
 
 
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.
 
Cheer!
Brian Riggs
Future SM Owner
Hampton Roads Area



Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Paul Brown
 

I too support maintaining focus of this groups postings, the group is undoubtably a great resource and to receive valuable information with every post, however as there is so much email traffic regarding helpful hints and great Amel owner information, commercial and social communication between few members cause email traffic that should not be shared and cloud us as receivers, as there is no way to filter what is regarded as junk to many.

Kind regards, Paul - FORTUNA II Amel 55/#17

On 24 Jan 2020, at 08:36, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

My 2 cents on this:
 
I prefer not to have my feed from this group junked up with people selling Amel shirts, books on Amel travels, blogs with Amel owners, video channels featuring Amels etc. 
 
While I’m sure Julie is a nice person and is passionate about her book, this is not the forum for self-promotion. She needs to establish a commercial fund to promote her book rather than trying the self promote “free” route at our expense. She can, at no-charge start a fan-club page on FaceBook, promote her page using paid ads and grow her membership. People wishing to follow her awaiting for the trilogy can do so. 
 
This is what is stated on the front page of our group:
This Group frowns on commercial postings, however we encourage postings which will genuinely help Amel owners source needed parts and services. We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:54 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Crossing Pirate Waters
 

I am with Brian and most of the others in support of Julie's posting.  Her book is about sailing an Amel and that makes all of the difference.  I too would not have known about it without her first post many months ago. I bought her book and enjoyed reading it in part due to the Amel angle.

   Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

On 1/23/2020 4:48 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:
I do not think anyone argued the value of Julie's book. Some people wrote to me about it because they felt it was too commercial.  "Too" is in the mind of individuals i
 
We are currently working on a solution that will satisfy those for and against promoting commercial interests. We envision creating a sub-group for commercial postings that members would need to opt-in to the group.
 
I may be a few days or a few weeks.

--
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  
 
 
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.
 
Cheer!
Brian Riggs
Future SM Owner
Hampton Roads Area



Spares

Randall Walker
 

I have found many things are just not available from Amel. I have a 54 and it has the Passarella that you put on Manually. The holes and in need of replacing. Amel does not have them.
Also I thought I would get a new main sail halyard. Again no. "The computer says, no" Has anyone else had to source these?

Regards,
Randall

A-54 #56


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Mark Erdos
 

My 2 cents on this:

 

I prefer not to have my feed from this group junked up with people selling Amel shirts, books on Amel travels, blogs with Amel owners, video channels featuring Amels etc.

 

While I’m sure Julie is a nice person and is passionate about her book, this is not the forum for self-promotion. She needs to establish a commercial fund to promote her book rather than trying the self promote “free” route at our expense. She can, at no-charge start a fan-club page on FaceBook, promote her page using paid ads and grow her membership. People wishing to follow her awaiting for the trilogy can do so.

 

This is what is stated on the front page of our group:

This Group frowns on commercial postings, however we encourage postings which will genuinely help Amel owners source needed parts and services. We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:54 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Crossing Pirate Waters

 

I am with Brian and most of the others in support of Julie's posting.  Her book is about sailing an Amel and that makes all of the difference.  I too would not have known about it without her first post many months ago. I bought her book and enjoyed reading it in part due to the Amel angle.

   Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

On 1/23/2020 4:48 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:

I do not think anyone argued the value of Julie's book. Some people wrote to me about it because they felt it was too commercial.  "Too" is in the mind of individuals i

 

We are currently working on a solution that will satisfy those for and against promoting commercial interests. We envision creating a sub-group for commercial postings that members would need to opt-in to the group.

 

I may be a few days or a few weeks.


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On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:

I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.

 

Cheer!

Brian Riggs

Future SM Owner

Hampton Roads Area


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Mark Pitt
 

I am with Brian and most of the others in support of Julie's posting.  Her book is about sailing an Amel and that makes all of the difference.  I too would not have known about it without her first post many months ago. I bought her book and enjoyed reading it in part due to the Amel angle.

   Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

On 1/23/2020 4:48 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:
I do not think anyone argued the value of Julie's book. Some people wrote to me about it because they felt it was too commercial.  "Too" is in the mind of individuals i

We are currently working on a solution that will satisfy those for and against promoting commercial interests. We envision creating a sub-group for commercial postings that members would need to opt-in to the group.

I may be a few days or a few weeks.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.

Cheer!
Brian Riggs
Future SM Owner
Hampton Roads Area


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

 

I do not think anyone argued the value of Julie's book. Some people wrote to me about it because they felt it was too commercial.  "Too" is in the mind of individuals i

We are currently working on a solution that will satisfy those for and against promoting commercial interests. We envision creating a sub-group for commercial postings that members would need to opt-in to the group.

I may be a few days or a few weeks.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.

Cheer!
Brian Riggs
Future SM Owner
Hampton Roads Area


Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Matt Salatino
 

Hi Micky,
I would love to give you that feedback, but we don’t step aboard until mid March. I would give a full report after that, though.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 23, 2020, at 4:23 PM, mik-ball Ball <mik-ball@...> wrote:

Hi Matt , Thanks for letting us know what Amel have fitted to your boat , could you comment on how effective it is and in what situations you use it , ie berthed in  home  marina , visiting other marinas ,, in Europe or Elsewhere , Many Thanks ,  Micky Ball (Future Amel SM owner )


Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Micky Ball
 

Hi Matt , Thanks for letting us know what Amel have fitted to your boat , could you comment on how effective it is and in what situations you use it , ie berthed in  home  marina , visiting other marinas ,, in Europe or Elsewhere , Many Thanks ,  Micky Ball (Future Amel SM owner )


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Ian Townsend
 

Hi Kelly. Sorry we missed you guys in the Boston area this summer. 

Not quite sure what is meant by other AMEL-adjacent pursuits. I have seen several forum members who are quite active, who provide much-needed free and timely  guidance to others, often help out when we need parts custom manufactured (and always provide this service at cost) or mention their relevant support services (after giving free advice). However, the post we are debating is form a source that is quite different. This was someone, not active on the forum, not an owner, who posted purely for selling reasons. This is what I take umbrage with. 

Apologies if I have missed or misinterpreted something 


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Kelly Ran <naryllek@...> wrote:

FWIW I appreciated the original post. I bought Julie's first book and will consider buying the sequel. I had some minor quibbles with the first book, but in general, it was a pleasant read. I should think it pertains to all of our interests (and benefits us by raising Amel's profile).
Not sure how this is any different from others advertising their Amel-adjacent pursuits.
Thanks all!

kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:33 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
The posting was removed, the person posting was talked to and their status set to "moderated."

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 1:33 AM Dave Ritten <daveritten@...> wrote:

I hate this spam advertising. It feels bad.


--
Dave Ritten
Auckland
Prospective SM Owner


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Brent Cameron
 

I’m sorry Kelly. I did mean you then!  I guess I’m used to seeing Ryan and made the leap. Nice to meet you!  Great minds and all that.....

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Brian Riggs
 

I've got both books in my Amazon cart now, and I'm looking forward to reading them. I would have never known about these two books without the blurb on here. I'm throwing my hand up in support of this type of advertising as well. Everything else has already been said.

Cheer!
Brian Riggs
Future SM Owner
Hampton Roads Area


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Kelly Ran
 

Hi Brent,

I believe you were responding to me (Kelly), not my husband Ryan.  We're both active on this list.  Glad to hear we're in agreement, though.  LOL!

kelly (and ryan)
SM233 Iteration
Boston

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:26 AM Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:
Ryan, I fully agree with you on this.  I also read her first book and found it quite interesting… especially the parts about buying the Amel  at the factory in La Rochelle and their very first experience in a Bay of Biscay storm taking it away and then learning more as they went on.  I don’t see any difference either with some of the other posts here as you suggest.  If it was a book about just sailing or something else and had no ties to Amel, then that would be different but, in my mind at least, it isn’t any different than other posters who loosely (in context) advertise their services or YouTube channels (which very often contain exactly the same kind of helpful advice as is found on these forums).  I do very much appreciate that we aren’t subjected to a lot of advertising here but a single post taking about a new book about a trip doing what many of us buy Amel’s for that took place on an Amel is not out of place and I think people were too quick to shut it down without also looking at all of the other similar posts that others have no issue with.   I think that anything that contributes to the brand or to our further understanding of the boats is fair game on these forums.    I like the posts talking about the surveys, sails, schools, brokerages, maintenance and even just sailing places videos.  Frankly, far more has already been written on this than the original post even took up.  Anyway, that’s my two cents.  For those who are triggered by these discussions, there is a link you can click when you first see the topic to “mute this topic” and you will never see anything on it (or Antennas if you like!) ever again.  LOL 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

I also bought both books after seeing them advertised through this forum. Reading of another couple who sailed their Amel SM around the world is both informative and inspiring. After all this forum is about learning from other people’s experience and sharing information. 

I support this form of advertisement.

Ross and Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently located - Croatia


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On Thursday, January 23, 2020, 5:26 pm, Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> wrote:

Ryan, I fully agree with you on this.  I also read her first book and found it quite interesting… especially the parts about buying the Amel  at the factory in La Rochelle and their very first experience in a Bay of Biscay storm taking it away and then learning more as they went on.  I don’t see any difference either with some of the other posts here as you suggest.  If it was a book about just sailing or something else and had no ties to Amel, then that would be different but, in my mind at least, it isn’t any different than other posters who loosely (in context) advertise their services or YouTube channels (which very often contain exactly the same kind of helpful advice as is found on these forums).  I do very much appreciate that we aren’t subjected to a lot of advertising here but a single post taking about a new book about a trip doing what many of us buy Amel’s for that took place on an Amel is not out of place and I think people were too quick to shut it down without also looking at all of the other similar posts that others have no issue with.   I think that anything that contributes to the brand or to our further understanding of the boats is fair game on these forums.    I like the posts talking about the surveys, sails, schools, brokerages, maintenance and even just sailing places videos.  Frankly, far more has already been written on this than the original post even took up.  Anyway, that’s my two cents.  For those who are triggered by these discussions, there is a link you can click when you first see the topic to “mute this topic” and you will never see anything on it (or Antennas if you like!) ever again.  LOL 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada