Date   
Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

We have been sailing the med for the last few years, home educate our kids, run a YouTube channel as well as stream films etc., so are heavy users of wifi! We did instal digital yacht gear but never got it to work properly and gave up in the end.. an expensive white elephant!  What we discovered is phone coverage in 90% of the Med is excellent (4G) even in places like Turkey and Tunisia with (mostly) uniterupted on-the-go coverage coastal sailing even between countries. So we just use our I-phone as a hotspot onboard with a UK Vodaphone deal which covers all of the med and some parts of the Caribbean. (about €30/100gig - Sim only per month). Only caveat is you need a UK address. We have two iPhones on this deal so that’s 200gigs at €60 which we never get through even with our heavy usage. Things may change once we leave the Med but mobile tech will always be ahead of the curve and coverage expanding and improving (5G) all the time. I know many people have invested a lot in Wi-Fi routers etc onboard (us too!) but tbh I think mobile technology is the way to go if simplicity and convenience is your priority. Just my t’pence worth!

Re: Water ingress in the sailing locker of the A54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Arno;

We had a very small evidence of leak(rust lines) at the through bolts that hold the bow stainless plate. Had to remove the bolts and reseal them.

We also had a recall from Amel to replace all deck push button switches. Amel provided all new switches and paid , I think, about 25 euros each for installation.

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
A54 B&B Kokomo #099

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:46 PM, CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse@...> wrote:

Arno,

You are well on your way to a solution. What about the drain path of the gutter around the hatch?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 8:13 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Dear forum,

I'm on a bit of a quest to get my forward locker dry. So far I have identified/remedied 6 sources of water ingress:

1. Locker hinges are not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
2. Twist locks are also not very well embedded in Sikaflex again causing leakage
3. The twist-lock shaft has a O-ring to keep the water out, it needs regular replacement. Southco (the manufacturer) has no service-sets, they expect you to buy new ones)
4. The Harken switches have a design-flaw. The top part (the part that has the movable lid attached to it) suffers from deformation at the screwholes causing the circular rubber part that you press to activate the switch to no longer be waterproof. The rubber is sandwiched between the top and lower part but the pressure on this rubber after some years is no longer even distributed because of deformation of the top part (see enclosed pictures).
5. The composite disc on which the Harken switch is mounted is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
6. The stainless tube that ducts the furler electrical cable below-decks is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.

Also be aware the holes trough the deck have exposed multiply wood as core material. I found one hole with slightly wet core material.

I'm now awaiting the next tropical downpour to see if the locker stays dry...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Many thanks to you too then Mark McGovern. So pleased to see this group going from strength to strength with new blood stepping up and volunteering to take us forward. Well done!. 

With our long-planned circumnavigation completed,  we will be selling our ocean capable SM2000 soon since we will be land-based only and working for the next 5 years, but we plan to purchase a smaller Amel 48 or 50 in the Med again in around 2025 for a few years local cruising there, so we will remain avid group members.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 12:44 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks Colin. 

I don't really deserve that praise. I am simply a guy who sailed an Amel, came to love the Amel brand, and is a little hardheaded. 

The sub-group idea came from Mark McGovern, owner of SM CARA. And BTW, it was Mark who found Groups.io. Mark is also the guy that manufacturers several Amel parts that Amel no longer supplies.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 7:49 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: Water ingress in the sailing locker of the A54

 

Arno,

You are well on your way to a solution. What about the drain path of the gutter around the hatch?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 8:13 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Dear forum,

I'm on a bit of a quest to get my forward locker dry. So far I have identified/remedied 6 sources of water ingress:

1. Locker hinges are not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
2. Twist locks are also not very well embedded in Sikaflex again causing leakage
3. The twist-lock shaft has a O-ring to keep the water out, it needs regular replacement. Southco (the manufacturer) has no service-sets, they expect you to buy new ones)
4. The Harken switches have a design-flaw. The top part (the part that has the movable lid attached to it) suffers from deformation at the screwholes causing the circular rubber part that you press to activate the switch to no longer be waterproof. The rubber is sandwiched between the top and lower part but the pressure on this rubber after some years is no longer even distributed because of deformation of the top part (see enclosed pictures).
5. The composite disc on which the Harken switch is mounted is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
6. The stainless tube that ducts the furler electrical cable below-decks is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.

Also be aware the holes trough the deck have exposed multiply wood as core material. I found one hole with slightly wet core material.

I'm now awaiting the next tropical downpour to see if the locker stays dry...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

 

Thanks Colin. 

I don't really deserve that praise. I am simply a guy who sailed an Amel, came to love the Amel brand, and is a little hardheaded. 

The sub-group idea came from Mark McGovern, owner of SM CARA. And BTW, it was Mark who found Groups.io. Mark is also the guy that manufacturers several Amel parts that Amel no longer supplies.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 7:49 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: Amel 54 Emergency Tiller Storage Location

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ha ha, you have described our lazarette! Thanks, Arno, good stuff and looks like a good solution to me which I will implement.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: 24 January 2020 21:51
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel 54 Emergency Tiller Storage Location

 

Hi Paul,

Please find the enclosed pictures. I still need to paint them...

I have painted the vertical part of the emergency tiller black because it was not looking well anymore, the galvanization had given up before I bought the boat.
There are four "hooks" in total. The two central ones have this Blue-Marine straps mounted to hold the dingy-paddles.
On the far end you can just make out one of our folding bikes (Brompton) that are standing on a wooden support structure I made in the locker to make it a bit more organized.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121



--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Water ingress in the sailing locker of the A54

Arno Luijten
 

Dear forum,

I'm on a bit of a quest to get my forward locker dry. So far I have identified/remedied 6 sources of water ingress:

1. Locker hinges are not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
2. Twist locks are also not very well embedded in Sikaflex again causing leakage
3. The twist-lock shaft has a O-ring to keep the water out, it needs regular replacement. Southco (the manufacturer) has no service-sets, they expect you to buy new ones)
4. The Harken switches have a design-flaw. The top part (the part that has the movable lid attached to it) suffers from deformation at the screwholes causing the circular rubber part that you press to activate the switch to no longer be waterproof. The rubber is sandwiched between the top and lower part but the pressure on this rubber after some years is no longer even distributed because of deformation of the top part (see enclosed pictures).
5. The composite disc on which the Harken switch is mounted is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
6. The stainless tube that ducts the furler electrical cable below-decks is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.

Also be aware the holes trough the deck have exposed multiply wood as core material. I found one hole with slightly wet core material.

I'm now awaiting the next tropical downpour to see if the locker stays dry...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Amel 54 Emergency Tiller Storage Location

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Paul,

Please find the enclosed pictures. I still need to paint them...

I have painted the vertical part of the emergency tiller black because it was not looking well anymore, the galvanization had given up before I bought the boat.
There are four "hooks" in total. The two central ones have this Blue-Marine straps mounted to hold the dingy-paddles.
On the far end you can just make out one of our folding bikes (Brompton) that are standing on a wooden support structure I made in the locker to make it a bit more organized.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Orion Martin
 

Agreed. This site is an invaluable source of information concerning Amel yachts, and I consider myself a prospective Amel buyer who is yet to find “the one”. This site has reinforced to me the wisdom of purchasing an Amel yacht, there is really no other support group like this regarding other brands. It would be a mistake to limit membership to Amel owners only, not only because it possibly hinders their ability sell their Amel when it’s their time, but also it prevents lurkers such as myself from joining the community and becoming involved with the ins and outs of Amel ownership. The original issue was someone plugging their book on this site, which can be remedied easy enough. That poster asked the question if it was right or not to plug their book which was a fair question to ask. No harm done. I don’t understand how it has now manifested to possibly excluding non-owners from the group. To me that goes against the spirit of this community and what it’s about.

Re: New owners

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill & Joannna, Though we have exchanged a few emails this past year since meeting you in St. John , while you were still on your old boat, Diane & I would like to congratulate you on your new boat and officially welcome you to our friendly cult. We will keep an eye out for next winter,enjoy your new boat,you will love it.
Fair Winds,
Pat & Diane
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River , Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: william reynolds <sail23692@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2020 3:07 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New owners

We have recently bought Cloudstreet, a 2001 SM 2000. 
We have been Amel web followers for several years and just jumped in.
You may have met us. We have cruised the Eastern Caribbean for the past 10 years on Baidarka, 
a 40 foot Perry designed cutter. Time to move up.  W`e're outfitting in Martinique and are looking forward to continued 
cruising to ???
Best
Bill Reynolds and Joanna Roth (Ex-Alaskans)

Re: New owners

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Bill and Joanna,

 

We met Cloudstreet (and Joe) in the Bahamas. Our SM is of the same vintage. You have a well cared for boat. Congrats!

 

Hope to meet Cloudstreet and you both out here sometime soon.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of william reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 4:07 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New owners

 

We have recently bought Cloudstreet, a 2001 SM 2000. 
We have been Amel web followers for several years and just jumped in.
You may have met us. We have cruised the Eastern Caribbean for the past 10 years on Baidarka, 
a 40 foot Perry designed cutter. Time to move up.  W`e're outfitting in Martinique and are looking forward to continued 
cruising to ???
Best
Bill Reynolds and Joanna Roth (Ex-Alaskans)

Re: New owners

 

Congratulations. I can't wait to meet you face-to-face. I have known all of the previous owners of your Amel. They all were very good owners. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 2:32 PM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Congratulations and Cheers 🥂 
Courtney
svTrippin
Grenada
We will be in Martinique the end of the second week of February 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 4:07 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

We have recently bought Cloudstreet, a 2001 SM 2000. 
We have been Amel web followers for several years and just jumped in.
You may have met us. We have cruised the Eastern Caribbean for the past 10 years on Baidarka, 
a 40 foot Perry designed cutter. Time to move up.  W`e're outfitting in Martinique and are looking forward to continued 
cruising to ???
Best
Bill Reynolds and Joanna Roth (Ex-Alaskans)

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Welcome to the group Doug. We looked at Aventura back in 2014 but the deal did not go through. We also saw her in Turkey where we purchased Kokomo. She was very clean and well cared for. Wishing you the best adventures that you will discover on an Amel like no other yacht. Hope to see you around.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Limiting group members to Amel Owners

 

First time emailer to the group. Love it!  Stalking and learning, first, and now one of those newbie owners!  Purchased last month, after quite a few months of reading old email threads. 

Keeping it open demonstrates what a great fellowship of learning and sharing that is native to this group. Helped me to know what I was getting into with such a huge investment. 

Thanks, Doug Smith

 

Amel 54-113 Aventura

 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:



Courtney and Porter,

 

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

 

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

svTrippin

54 #101

Grenada 🇬🇩 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 

Porter McRoberts 

A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

 

There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

Re: New owners

Courtney Gorman
 

Congratulations and Cheers 🥂 
Courtney
svTrippin
Grenada
We will be in Martinique the end of the second week of February 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 4:07 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

We have recently bought Cloudstreet, a 2001 SM 2000. 
We have been Amel web followers for several years and just jumped in.
You may have met us. We have cruised the Eastern Caribbean for the past 10 years on Baidarka, 
a 40 foot Perry designed cutter. Time to move up.  W`e're outfitting in Martinique and are looking forward to continued 
cruising to ???
Best
Bill Reynolds and Joanna Roth (Ex-Alaskans)

New owners

william reynolds
 

We have recently bought Cloudstreet, a 2001 SM 2000. 
We have been Amel web followers for several years and just jumped in.
You may have met us. We have cruised the Eastern Caribbean for the past 10 years on Baidarka, 
a 40 foot Perry designed cutter. Time to move up.  W`e're outfitting in Martinique and are looking forward to continued 
cruising to ???
Best
Bill Reynolds and Joanna Roth (Ex-Alaskans)

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Doug Smith
 

First time emailer to the group. Love it!  Stalking and learning, first, and now one of those newbie owners!  Purchased last month, after quite a few months of reading old email threads. 
Keeping it open demonstrates what a great fellowship of learning and sharing that is native to this group. Helped me to know what I was getting into with such a huge investment. 

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113 Aventura
Dugsmith98@...


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Courtney and Porter,

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Grenada 🇬🇩 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

Looking forward to this solution as I am interested in other than mechanical truly AMEL related issues/items whether T-shirts, Vlogs, Blogs, books etc.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

January 24, 2020 10:16:12

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 09:30
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Limiting group members to Amel Owners

 

Courtney and Porter,

 

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

 

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

svTrippin

54 #101

Grenada 🇬🇩 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 

Porter McRoberts 

A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 



On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

 

There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

martin haméline
 

Thank you Porter!
We are in the middle of closing on our Amel Mango now. 
This user site totally convinced us of the value Amel represents and appreciating the Amel Cult following. 
We are confident in the purchase and know the highest resale value awaits when we retire our cruising life in 15 years. 
Thanks for everyone’s experiences. 
Cheers 

Martin hAMELine



On Jan 24, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

 

Courtney and Porter,

Agreed 100%. I could not have said it better. 

Almost a year ago, when we moved to the groups,io platform, we made it clear that our group included Amel owners and those interested in the Amel brand. Since then about half of the new members have been those interested in the Amel brand. A significant number of those new members interested in the Amel brand have bought either a new or used Amel. Of course, we all understand the benefits to Amel, Amel owners, and interested parties. 

We are working on a unique solution to the "commercial posting" issue which will satisfy both sides with a bonus for every member. Some of the details need some work before it is presented to the moderators for their consideration, but I am certain it will satisfy everyone.

Standby.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 AM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree with Porter But let’s self limit some of the strong opinions that get expressed especially those new non owners 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54 #101
Grenada 🇬🇩 


On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

It was being a lurker on this forum years ago which confirmed, for me, that an Amel was the right boat for our family.  Now 3 years in and 20,000 miles later I’m  so thankful, not only for the fine vessel (A54-152) we own but also this incredible group of thoughtful and intelligent members.  My vote is to keep it open to those with Amel interests, not just owners. 
Porter McRoberts 
A54-152 IBIS. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing.