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Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

Orion Martin
 

Respectfully, I totally disagree with this comment. You were once a non-Amel owner...

I’m glad Bill has the good sense to find a solution i.e a subgroup for commercial postings. Thank you Bill for your work in keeping the Amel owners group going and keeping it inclusive for all interested participants.

Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Thank you Bill. Agree about thought through, one of the big reasons why I’m looking at Amels. 

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 5:41 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Ruslan Osmonov,

Some of the most frustrating issues experienced by some Amel owners are the failure of systems or modifications made by previous owners. 

Valves fail in saltwater environments. Electrical sensors and switches fail.

I think that you should seriously reconsider the solution suggested by Charles Doane, who BTW, is not an Amel owner. Also, keep in mind that it is very possible that a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th owner of an Amel has no idea whether the mechanicals, including the exhaust system, are Amel OEM.

I recommend that you should be very cautious in designing a change to an Amel designed system, device, or procedure. Amel is not totally infallible, but in my experience, Amel has usually thought things out correctly and reached the best conclusion.

--

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 3:56 PM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Hi Mike and everyone, this is the page where Charles Doane explains what he did at the end to deal with his flooded engine on his Boreal 47. 
His solution was a valve with electric switch to avoid accidental start with the valve closed. 
I’m a potential buyer and would like to understand if such a solution applicable in Amel’s setup. 
It would be great to eliminate one more worry to run an engine on a passage especially when seas are rough. Additionally when seas are rough diesel gunk can mix up and clog fuel filters, yet another problem to deal with. 


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:22 PM SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I thought I should share our recent experiences on the issue...

We have experienced seawater backflow twice this year while on multiday passages in the South Pacific. The first time, we were unaware of Amel's suggestion to run the engine while sailing. The second time, armed with the knowledge that one should run the engine once a day, we had a crankcase full of seawater after 18 hours. It's now clear, as explained by Oliver, that under certain conditions, the running of the engine needs to happen more often.

Because we have a 1990 SM, there doesn't seem to be anything in the exhaust line to block/baffle/slow down sea water from backflowing toward the engine. We also have a stainless muffler without a drain. The old Perkins Prima M80T, still alive and well, may have survived simply by being old and worn, allowing the incompressible seawater to escape around the rings before bending any rods, blowing gaskets, or cracking the engine...?

At any rate, wouldn't the simplest solution be one that prevents seawater from entering the crankcase altogether? To me, the variables involved in deciding when and how often to run the engine are more complicated than something more bulletproof, like a valve. One has no way of knowing really how much seawater is being pushed up the exhaust in a given seaway. Let alone the fact that we are burning diesel for the sole purpose of producing exhaust gasses.

All that considered, I don't yet have an ideal solution. A muffler with a drain would probably cover it. Then depending on the passage, one can decide to pull the plug or to run the engine at certain intervals. For us, we will probably run the engine every couple of hours in a rough sea until I add a drain to the muffler or come up with something better. An engine full of seawater is a terrible thing to experience while making landfall after a long passage... I'm just grateful the engine survived and that we were carrying enough fresh oil.

If I do come up with a simple and "bulletproof" solution, I'll be sure to report back.

Cheers,
Mike & Hannah
SV TRILOGY
Opua, NZ

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I agree completely



On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 2:46 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Agree, seems quite a few of us are on the same pages on this KISS
Cheers 
Alan 
Elyse SM 437 

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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage

 

Ruslan Osmonov,

Some of the most frustrating issues experienced by some Amel owners are the failure of systems or modifications made by previous owners. 

Valves fail in saltwater environments. Electrical sensors and switches fail.

I think that you should seriously reconsider the solution suggested by Charles Doane, who BTW, is not an Amel owner. Also, keep in mind that it is very possible that a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th owner of an Amel has no idea whether the mechanicals, including the exhaust system, are Amel OEM.

I recommend that you should be very cautious in designing a change to an Amel designed system, device, or procedure. Amel is not totally infallible, but in my experience, Amel has usually thought things out correctly and reached the best conclusion.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 3:56 PM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Hi Mike and everyone, this is the page where Charles Doane explains what he did at the end to deal with his flooded engine on his Boreal 47. 
His solution was a valve with electric switch to avoid accidental start with the valve closed. 
I’m a potential buyer and would like to understand if such a solution applicable in Amel’s setup. 
It would be great to eliminate one more worry to run an engine on a passage especially when seas are rough. Additionally when seas are rough diesel gunk can mix up and clog fuel filters, yet another problem to deal with. 


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:22 PM SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I thought I should share our recent experiences on the issue...

We have experienced seawater backflow twice this year while on multiday passages in the South Pacific. The first time, we were unaware of Amel's suggestion to run the engine while sailing. The second time, armed with the knowledge that one should run the engine once a day, we had a crankcase full of seawater after 18 hours. It's now clear, as explained by Oliver, that under certain conditions, the running of the engine needs to happen more often.

Because we have a 1990 SM, there doesn't seem to be anything in the exhaust line to block/baffle/slow down sea water from backflowing toward the engine. We also have a stainless muffler without a drain. The old Perkins Prima M80T, still alive and well, may have survived simply by being old and worn, allowing the incompressible seawater to escape around the rings before bending any rods, blowing gaskets, or cracking the engine...?

At any rate, wouldn't the simplest solution be one that prevents seawater from entering the crankcase altogether? To me, the variables involved in deciding when and how often to run the engine are more complicated than something more bulletproof, like a valve. One has no way of knowing really how much seawater is being pushed up the exhaust in a given seaway. Let alone the fact that we are burning diesel for the sole purpose of producing exhaust gasses.

All that considered, I don't yet have an ideal solution. A muffler with a drain would probably cover it. Then depending on the passage, one can decide to pull the plug or to run the engine at certain intervals. For us, we will probably run the engine every couple of hours in a rough sea until I add a drain to the muffler or come up with something better. An engine full of seawater is a terrible thing to experience while making landfall after a long passage... I'm just grateful the engine survived and that we were carrying enough fresh oil.

If I do come up with a simple and "bulletproof" solution, I'll be sure to report back.

Cheers,
Mike & Hannah
SV TRILOGY
Opua, NZ

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I agree completely



On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 2:46 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Agree, seems quite a few of us are on the same pages on this KISS
Cheers 
Alan 
Elyse SM 437 

--

Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi Mike and everyone, this is the page where Charles Doane explains what he did at the end to deal with his flooded engine on his Boreal 47. 
His solution was a valve with electric switch to avoid accidental start with the valve closed. 
I’m a potential buyer and would like to understand if such a solution applicable in Amel’s setup. 
It would be great to eliminate one more worry to run an engine on a passage especially when seas are rough. Additionally when seas are rough diesel gunk can mix up and clog fuel filters, yet another problem to deal with. 


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:22 PM SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I thought I should share our recent experiences on the issue...

We have experienced seawater backflow twice this year while on multiday passages in the South Pacific. The first time, we were unaware of Amel's suggestion to run the engine while sailing. The second time, armed with the knowledge that one should run the engine once a day, we had a crankcase full of seawater after 18 hours. It's now clear, as explained by Oliver, that under certain conditions, the running of the engine needs to happen more often.

Because we have a 1990 SM, there doesn't seem to be anything in the exhaust line to block/baffle/slow down sea water from backflowing toward the engine. We also have a stainless muffler without a drain. The old Perkins Prima M80T, still alive and well, may have survived simply by being old and worn, allowing the incompressible seawater to escape around the rings before bending any rods, blowing gaskets, or cracking the engine...?

At any rate, wouldn't the simplest solution be one that prevents seawater from entering the crankcase altogether? To me, the variables involved in deciding when and how often to run the engine are more complicated than something more bulletproof, like a valve. One has no way of knowing really how much seawater is being pushed up the exhaust in a given seaway. Let alone the fact that we are burning diesel for the sole purpose of producing exhaust gasses.

All that considered, I don't yet have an ideal solution. A muffler with a drain would probably cover it. Then depending on the passage, one can decide to pull the plug or to run the engine at certain intervals. For us, we will probably run the engine every couple of hours in a rough sea until I add a drain to the muffler or come up with something better. An engine full of seawater is a terrible thing to experience while making landfall after a long passage... I'm just grateful the engine survived and that we were carrying enough fresh oil.

If I do come up with a simple and "bulletproof" solution, I'll be sure to report back.

Cheers,
Mike & Hannah
SV TRILOGY
Opua, NZ

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I agree completely



On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 2:46 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Agree, seems quite a few of us are on the same pages on this KISS
Cheers 
Alan 
Elyse SM 437 

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Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi everyone,

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I thought I should share our recent experiences on the issue...

We have experienced seawater backflow twice this year while on multiday passages in the South Pacific. The first time, we were unaware of Amel's suggestion to run the engine while sailing. The second time, armed with the knowledge that one should run the engine once a day, we had a crankcase full of seawater after 18 hours. It's now clear, as explained by Oliver, that under certain conditions, the running of the engine needs to happen more often.

Because we have a 1990 SM, there doesn't seem to be anything in the exhaust line to block/baffle/slow down sea water from backflowing toward the engine. We also have a stainless muffler without a drain. The old Perkins Prima M80T, still alive and well, may have survived simply by being old and worn, allowing the incompressible seawater to escape around the rings before bending any rods, blowing gaskets, or cracking the engine...?

At any rate, wouldn't the simplest solution be one that prevents seawater from entering the crankcase altogether? To me, the variables involved in deciding when and how often to run the engine are more complicated than something more bulletproof, like a valve. One has no way of knowing really how much seawater is being pushed up the exhaust in a given seaway. Let alone the fact that we are burning diesel for the sole purpose of producing exhaust gasses.

All that considered, I don't yet have an ideal solution. A muffler with a drain would probably cover it. Then depending on the passage, one can decide to pull the plug or to run the engine at certain intervals. For us, we will probably run the engine every couple of hours in a rough sea until I add a drain to the muffler or come up with something better. An engine full of seawater is a terrible thing to experience while making landfall after a long passage... I'm just grateful the engine survived and that we were carrying enough fresh oil.

If I do come up with a simple and "bulletproof" solution, I'll be sure to report back.

Cheers,
Mike & Hannah
SV TRILOGY
Opua, NZ


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I agree completely


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 2:46 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Agree, seems quite a few of us are on the same pages on this KISS
Cheers 
Alan 
Elyse SM 437 

Re: SM leaking ATF fluid #solution

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hello,

I'm having the same issue with my HBW250. I'm guessing the repair will be similar. Just wondering if anyone has changed this seal before and has any tips/suggestions? Also, can anyone confirm the seal dimensions? I found online it might be SD 20x26x4 radial. Would be nice to have the correct replacement on hand and do the job in one go.

Cheers,
Mike

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 5:13 AM Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...> wrote:
Bill
Many thanks for your speedy reply. I believe it's the seal that has gone as that is where it is leaking from. I will have a go at changing it. 

Many thanks for your help. 

Rob

FORESIGHT SM #152

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 16:25 CW Bill Rouse, <brouse@...> wrote:
Rob,

I have not personally experienced this issue. Your ZF 25 holds 0.75 liters of fluid. Is it possibly overfilled? You do not screw in the dipstick to check the level.

If not, it probably is a worn sealing ring. If so, maybe this will help you:

image.png
5.2 Removing and disassembling the
actuating lever cover plate

5.2.1 Always set actuating lever to neutral
position.
5.2.2 Remove hex nuts (22) from cover
plate (9), using 13 mm spanner (wrench),
and take off spring washers (4).
5.2.3 Remove cover plate assembly (12),
lever (6) and actuating cam (11).
5.2.4 Remove screw (7) from lever (6).
Pull off lever (6). Remove actuating cam
(11) and needle bearing (70) only in
models ZF 12 M - 15 M - 25 M - 30 M.
Remove actuating cam sealing ring (8).

==========================

6.3 Assembling the shifting fork in
gearbox section side shifting cover

6.3.1 Insert shifting fork (15) into gearbox
section (1) side the actuating lever
in such a way that the long arm of the
fork points downwards.
6.3.2 Insert shifting rod (16) through
bores in gearbox and shifting fork.
6.3.3 Fit screw plug (17) to gearbox,
making certain that the clearance between
shifting rod (16) and screw plug
(17) is min. 0.5 mm (0.02 in).
Seal screw plug with Loctite 242 (ZF 3
M - 5 M only O-Ring).
6.3.4 Check shifting fork for easy
movability.
6.4 Pre-assembling the actuating
lever cover plate

Use punch tool to press sealing ring (8)
into cover plate (9). Spread antifriction
bearing grease between sealing lips.

6.4.1 Insert actuating cam assembly (11)
into cover plate (9).
6.4.2 Fit actuating lever (6).
IMPORTANT:
Clearance between actuating lever and
cover plate 0.5 mm (0.02 in).
6.4.3 Clamp actuating lever by means
of retaining screw (7), using a 13 mm
spanner (wrench). Screw in with torque
of 20 Nm.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:28 AM Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...> wrote:
Hello I have ATF fluid leaking from the gear lever on my gearbox.
Any suggestions?

Rob smith
Foresight
SM#152

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Jarek Zemlo
 

Hello to All,
before I decided to go for Amel I joined the Group. The Group an quality of Amel convinced me to purchase my fantastic NOA BLUE hull 201. Lets continue the way it was always done

cheers
--
Jarek Zemlo
NOA BLUE SM201

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Nicolas Klene
 

Orion I couldn’t agree more with you !
i have been allowed on this site a good year before becoming a proud owner a few month back !
I had the opportunity to have an invaluable insight  that only re unforced my decision making.
excluding potential owners would be a mistake .
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Stefano Silvestri <stefano.silvestri.51@...>
 

100% agree with Martin. This site has to be left open to anyone interested in Amels, I had a big help on finding "the right one" I'll very probably purchase in march!
Thanks

Re: Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

luvkante
 

Teun, 

gladly awaiting your pics.

My masthead situation should be similar to yours, Kaj had the same FLIR masthead camera as I.

Martin

Re: Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

Teun BAAS
 

My LOPOLIGHT was replaced Q3 2018 in NEW CALEDONIA with an all integrated  LOPOLIGHT LED light - original OEM LOPOLIGHT no longer available. Replaced with current production all integrated LED LOPOLIGHT. Kind of expensive like around USD900 just for the unit?

Marine electrician had to go up the mast at least twice (if not more) as he had to modify the special AMEL installed bracket. Should have pics. Skiing now in CO - will check when I return in PHX in 10 days.

Overall an expensive exercise as labor (2 people) added another USD1500 - USD2000 as it was hard to get old bracket off.

Teun BAAS
A 54. SV AMELIT

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "luvkante via Groups.Io" <luvkante@...>
Date: 1/25/20 03:17 (GMT-07:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

When I bought our new AMEL 54 CHIARA a couple of years ago, I ordered LED positionlights including a Tricolor masthead light. Now it expired and I have to order a new one.

I am not on the boat, so I can not check, whether it is a combined one with anchorlight.
- can anybody provide me the information, whether the originally installed AMEL tricolor light is a integrated one  with anchorlight ?
- does anybody possibly have a photo of the masttop installation?
- can anybody possibly provide informations about installing and connecting the cable of the new LOPOLIGHT?

Your help is highly appreciated with great relief!

Martin
Amel 54 #149 CHIARA
Varazze/Italy

Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Randall
 

Woody, I believe you are correct. Wireless everything on a boat seems to be where the world is headed. I have more wires going everywhere, with many left from previous applications. The mizzen has a few wires that bang around during passage, a sleep disrupter. I will be doing a major electronics change this year. And I believe that the side benefit to wireless is you wont need to do so much wire pulling.
Passed your location in Spain a month ago. Fair winds on your crossing to the Caribbean.

Randall
A-54 #56
Gibraltar 

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:18 AM Alan "Woody" Wood <woody@...> wrote:
We have been sailing the med for the last few years, home educate our kids, run a YouTube channel as well as stream films etc., so are heavy users of wifi! We did instal digital yacht gear but never got it to work properly and gave up in the end.. an expensive white elephant!  What we discovered is phone coverage in 90% of the Med is excellent (4G) even in places like Turkey and Tunisia with (mostly) uniterupted on-the-go coverage coastal sailing even between countries. So we just use our I-phone as a hotspot onboard with a UK Vodaphone deal which covers all of the med and some parts of the Caribbean. (about €30/100gig - Sim only per month). Only caveat is you need a UK address. We have two iPhones on this deal so that’s 200gigs at €60 which we never get through even with our heavy usage. Things may change once we leave the Med but mobile tech will always be ahead of the curve and coverage expanding and improving (5G) all the time. I know many people have invested a lot in Wi-Fi routers etc onboard (us too!) but tbh I think mobile technology is the way to go if simplicity and convenience is your priority. Just my t’pence worth!

Re: Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Martin mine are separate 
Trippin 
54 #101


On Jan 25, 2020, at 6:17 AM, luvkante via Groups.Io <luvkante@...> wrote:

When I bought our new AMEL 54 CHIARA a couple of years ago, I ordered LED positionlights including a Tricolor masthead light. Now it expired and I have to order a new one.

I am not on the boat, so I can not check, whether it is a combined one with anchorlight.
- can anybody provide me the information, whether the originally installed AMEL tricolor light is a integrated one  with anchorlight ?
- does anybody possibly have a photo of the masttop installation?
- can anybody possibly provide informations about installing and connecting the cable of the new LOPOLIGHT?

Your help is highly appreciated with great relief!

Martin
Amel 54 #149 CHIARA
Varazze/Italy

Re: Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Martin,

 

As far as I recall it is a combined mooring and tricolour light. We had ours replaced in Majorca several years ago. It took the engineer about half an hour so I guess pretty straightforward, although I did not go up the mast at that time.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of luvkante via Groups.Io
Sent: 25 January 2020 06:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

 

When I bought our new AMEL 54 CHIARA a couple of years ago, I ordered LED positionlights including a Tricolor masthead light. Now it expired and I have to order a new one.

I am not on the boat, so I can not check, whether it is a combined one with anchorlight.
- can anybody provide me the information, whether the originally installed AMEL tricolor light is a integrated one  with anchorlight ?
- does anybody possibly have a photo of the masttop installation?
- can anybody possibly provide informations about installing and connecting the cable of the new LOPOLIGHT?

Your help is highly appreciated with great relief!

Martin
Amel 54 #149 CHIARA
Varazze/Italy


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

luvkante
 

When I bought our new AMEL 54 CHIARA a couple of years ago, I ordered LED positionlights including a Tricolor masthead light. Now it expired and I have to order a new one.

I am not on the boat, so I can not check, whether it is a combined one with anchorlight.
- can anybody provide me the information, whether the originally installed AMEL tricolor light is a integrated one  with anchorlight ?
- does anybody possibly have a photo of the masttop installation?
- can anybody possibly provide informations about installing and connecting the cable of the new LOPOLIGHT?

Your help is highly appreciated with great relief!

Martin
Amel 54 #149 CHIARA
Varazze/Italy

Re: New owners

Ian Park
 

Bill and Joanna,
Congratulations on your Amel!
We met in St Anne’s when you had engine problems and were setting a second anchor next to us!
So glad you’ve got your Amel - I guess it will soon be in as beautiful condition as Baidarka! Look forward to some pictures when you’ve done all your refit!

Ian and Linda

Ocean Hobo

Santorin 96

Re: Limiting group members to Amel Owners

Alan Leslie
 

I agree.
I joined the Yahoo group before I bought my Amel, and it was a major contributor to my decision to buy one.
I would not want prospective owners to be unable to access this resource, it was, and is, so valuable to me.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

We have been sailing the med for the last few years, home educate our kids, run a YouTube channel as well as stream films etc., so are heavy users of wifi! We did instal digital yacht gear but never got it to work properly and gave up in the end.. an expensive white elephant!  What we discovered is phone coverage in 90% of the Med is excellent (4G) even in places like Turkey and Tunisia with (mostly) uniterupted on-the-go coverage coastal sailing even between countries. So we just use our I-phone as a hotspot onboard with a UK Vodaphone deal which covers all of the med and some parts of the Caribbean. (about €30/100gig - Sim only per month). Only caveat is you need a UK address. We have two iPhones on this deal so that’s 200gigs at €60 which we never get through even with our heavy usage. Things may change once we leave the Med but mobile tech will always be ahead of the curve and coverage expanding and improving (5G) all the time. I know many people have invested a lot in Wi-Fi routers etc onboard (us too!) but tbh I think mobile technology is the way to go if simplicity and convenience is your priority. Just my t’pence worth!

Re: Water ingress in the sailing locker of the A54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Arno;

We had a very small evidence of leak(rust lines) at the through bolts that hold the bow stainless plate. Had to remove the bolts and reseal them.

We also had a recall from Amel to replace all deck push button switches. Amel provided all new switches and paid , I think, about 25 euros each for installation.

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
A54 B&B Kokomo #099

On Jan 24, 2020, at 7:46 PM, CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse@...> wrote:

Arno,

You are well on your way to a solution. What about the drain path of the gutter around the hatch?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 8:13 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Dear forum,

I'm on a bit of a quest to get my forward locker dry. So far I have identified/remedied 6 sources of water ingress:

1. Locker hinges are not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
2. Twist locks are also not very well embedded in Sikaflex again causing leakage
3. The twist-lock shaft has a O-ring to keep the water out, it needs regular replacement. Southco (the manufacturer) has no service-sets, they expect you to buy new ones)
4. The Harken switches have a design-flaw. The top part (the part that has the movable lid attached to it) suffers from deformation at the screwholes causing the circular rubber part that you press to activate the switch to no longer be waterproof. The rubber is sandwiched between the top and lower part but the pressure on this rubber after some years is no longer even distributed because of deformation of the top part (see enclosed pictures).
5. The composite disc on which the Harken switch is mounted is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
6. The stainless tube that ducts the furler electrical cable below-decks is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.

Also be aware the holes trough the deck have exposed multiply wood as core material. I found one hole with slightly wet core material.

I'm now awaiting the next tropical downpour to see if the locker stays dry...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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Re: Crossing Pirate Waters

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Many thanks to you too then Mark McGovern. So pleased to see this group going from strength to strength with new blood stepping up and volunteering to take us forward. Well done!. 

With our long-planned circumnavigation completed,  we will be selling our ocean capable SM2000 soon since we will be land-based only and working for the next 5 years, but we plan to purchase a smaller Amel 48 or 50 in the Med again in around 2025 for a few years local cruising there, so we will remain avid group members.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 12:44 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks Colin. 

I don't really deserve that praise. I am simply a guy who sailed an Amel, came to love the Amel brand, and is a little hardheaded. 

The sub-group idea came from Mark McGovern, owner of SM CARA. And BTW, it was Mark who found Groups.io. Mark is also the guy that manufacturers several Amel parts that Amel no longer supplies.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 7:49 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:
Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?
 
There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 



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Colin Streeter
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Colin Streeter
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