Bill

Many thanks for your speedy reply. I believe it's the seal that has gone as that is where it is leaking from. I will have a go at changing it. 

Many thanks for your help. 

Rob

FORESIGHT SM #152

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 16:25 CW Bill Rouse, <brouse@...> wrote:

Rob,

I have not personally experienced this issue. Your ZF 25 holds 0.75 liters of fluid. Is it possibly overfilled? You do not screw in the dipstick to check the level.

If not, it probably is a worn sealing ring. If so, maybe this will help you:

5.2 Removing and disassembling the
actuating lever cover plate
5.2.1 Always set actuating lever to neutral
position.
5.2.2 Remove hex nuts (22) from cover
plate (9), using 13 mm spanner (wrench),
and take off spring washers (4).
5.2.3 Remove cover plate assembly (12),
lever (6) and actuating cam (11).
5.2.4 Remove screw (7) from lever (6).
Pull off lever (6). Remove actuating cam
(11) and needle bearing (70) only in
models ZF 12 M - 15 M - 25 M - 30 M.
Remove actuating cam sealing ring (8).

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6.3 Assembling the shifting fork in
gearbox section side shifting cover
6.3.1 Insert shifting fork (15) into gearbox
section (1) side the actuating lever
in such a way that the long arm of the
fork points downwards.
6.3.2 Insert shifting rod (16) through
bores in gearbox and shifting fork.
6.3.3 Fit screw plug (17) to gearbox,
making certain that the clearance between
shifting rod (16) and screw plug
(17) is min. 0.5 mm (0.02 in).
Seal screw plug with Loctite 242 (ZF 3
M - 5 M only O-Ring).
6.3.4 Check shifting fork for easy
movability.
6.4 Pre-assembling the actuating
lever cover plate
Use punch tool to press sealing ring (8)
into cover plate (9). Spread antifriction
bearing grease between sealing lips.
6.4.1 Insert actuating cam assembly (11)
into cover plate (9).
6.4.2 Fit actuating lever (6).
IMPORTANT:
Clearance between actuating lever and
cover plate 0.5 mm (0.02 in).
6.4.3 Clamp actuating lever by means
of retaining screw (7), using a 13 mm
spanner (wrench). Screw in with torque
of 20 Nm.

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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:28 AM Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...> wrote:

Hello I have ATF fluid leaking from the gear lever on my gearbox.
Any suggestions?

Rob smith
Foresight
SM#152

We have been sailing the med for the last few years, home educate our kids, run a YouTube channel as well as stream films etc., so are heavy users of wifi! We did instal digital yacht gear but never got it to work properly and gave up in the end.. an expensive white elephant!  What we discovered is phone coverage in 90% of the Med is excellent (4G) even in places like Turkey and Tunisia with (mostly) uniterupted on-the-go coverage coastal sailing even between countries. So we just use our I-phone as a hotspot onboard with a UK Vodaphone deal which covers all of the med and some parts of the Caribbean. (about €30/100gig - Sim only per month). Only caveat is you need a UK address. We have two iPhones on this deal so that’s 200gigs at €60 which we never get through even with our heavy usage. Things may change once we leave the Med but mobile tech will always be ahead of the curve and coverage expanding and improving (5G) all the time. I know many people have invested a lot in Wi-Fi routers etc onboard (us too!) but tbh I think mobile technology is the way to go if simplicity and convenience is your priority. Just my t’pence worth!

Thanks Colin. 

I don't really deserve that praise. I am simply a guy who sailed an Amel, came to love the Amel brand, and is a little hardheaded. 

The sub-group idea came from Mark McGovern, owner of SM CARA. And BTW, it was Mark who found Groups.io. Mark is also the guy that manufacturers several Amel parts that Amel no longer supplies.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 7:49 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia

Yacht Tracker:  https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/IslandPearl2

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

 

There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

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Colin Streeter

0411 016 445

Dear forum,

I'm on a bit of a quest to get my forward locker dry. So far I have identified/remedied 6 sources of water ingress:

1. Locker hinges are not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
2. Twist locks are also not very well embedded in Sikaflex again causing leakage
3. The twist-lock shaft has a O-ring to keep the water out, it needs regular replacement. Southco (the manufacturer) has no service-sets, they expect you to buy new ones)
4. The Harken switches have a design-flaw. The top part (the part that has the movable lid attached to it) suffers from deformation at the screwholes causing the circular rubber part that you press to activate the switch to no longer be waterproof. The rubber is sandwiched between the top and lower part but the pressure on this rubber after some years is no longer even distributed because of deformation of the top part (see enclosed pictures).
5. The composite disc on which the Harken switch is mounted is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.
6. The stainless tube that ducts the furler electrical cable below-decks is not very well embedded in Sikaflex causing leakage.

Also be aware the holes trough the deck have exposed multiply wood as core material. I found one hole with slightly wet core material.

I'm now awaiting the next tropical downpour to see if the locker stays dry...

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Thanks for your excellent idea Bill of creating a subgroup (hopefully an easily clickable tab?) which we could all click on to see anything which could be thought to have a  "commercial" focus, but yet be totally Amel related, and interesting/helpful/useful to owners who see it. This could possibly have a weekly or monthly summary feed into the main group, or simply be left for us to wander over and have a look from time to time.

We are all different, and that is a good thing as we have such a diverse group of passionate owners here. In our case, we actually often enjoy seeing any useful Amel related "commercial" type postings and for example, look forward to actually purchasing and reading this book to compare it with our own circumnavigation. 

As usual, though, Bill has been swift in taking a stand, and then on reflection, quickly offer an even a better solution that would enhance this group even more. Thank you Bill!

For more than ten years now we have been members of this incredible group of passionate Amel owners. Over this time, especially going back 7-9 years, there have been many occasions where we have all seen Bill quickly and fearlessly step in, and take a stand in the interests of the wider group, to keep things moving forward and in the right direction. There are others here too who have done similarly, and that is in our opinion why this group has become such an incredible resource and actually and enhancement to the entire Amel Brand, even with the new direction today. To Bill and the others, THANK YOU! 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, sm #332 Brisbane, Australia

Yacht Tracker:  https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/IslandPearl2

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:40 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM, David Cummane wrote:

Quite galling also to read non-amel owners inappropriately throwing their weight around.  Should the forum be restricted to owners only?

 

There isn't so much traffic on it that it bothers me. And any on here are probably looking to buy an amel, and as some of us are selling their amels, maybe allowing amel owners and serious wannabes is not such a bad thing. 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445