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Re: Super Maramu Passerelle Plans

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

I have a similar problem.. the passerelle tubes slowly ground through on a concrete dock without us realising when wintering in Spain. I've temporarily glassed them up but could do with getting some new ones made as the weld on the steps are also failing. Did anyone find the passerelle plans in the file section, because I've looked and they don't seem to be there - unless I'm looking in the wrong place?

Woody
Haddock
SM #189


Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

ngtnewington Newington
 

I have found in the Med, Canary Islands and the Azores that 4G works very well and fast. My UK phone package makes it very inexpensive within the EU. So the phone can be used as a hotspot. 

Whilst in Turkey, the EU deal is not available so I use a MIFI device.  I buy a local data only sim card. This too is very inexpensive and offers fast broadband. I have also used this MIFI device with locally purchased sim cards, in the West Indies but I found that the 4G was very slow and that each country has a different provider (2017-18). So whilst sailing up or down the chain of islands one moves pretty quickly from country to country. Of course the French islands benefit from the EU deal.

In conclusion I agree with Woody, that I can not be bothered with running more hardware on the boat, but I guess it depends where you cruise. There may also be a security argument against piggy backing off local public wifi spots, such as bars and restaurants, even marinas. 

As a UK resident I hope that we continue to benefit from the EU negotiated mobile phone deals post BREXIT! I guess it is up to the network providers.

Nick

Amelia AML 54-019
Kilada Greece.


On 28 Jan 2020, at 08:08, Alan Woody Wood <woody@...> wrote:

It’s definitely worth trying first before shelling out loads of money and running wires everywhere. Things are only getting better and cheaper with mobile networks too. We anchor 90% of the time during summer and most of that time we get 4G.. occasionally 3G. Coastal sailing too is never usually a problem.. sometimes we even get coverage 20km out! The thing is to find a sim plan that covers all of Europe and costs less than €1 per Gig. Some ‘unlimited’ plans have caps on ‘roaming’ outside your native country.. so check the small print. Our plan is UK address only but i’m sure there must be others out there. 


Re: Grounding for solar panels / solar arch

Alan Leslie
 

Mike,

The deal is any metal that is in constant contact with saltwater needs to be connected to the bonding system.

If you have attachments, as you say, on your non metal muffler, they will not need connecting to the bonding system as they are not in contact with saltwater.

You should be able to decide what needs bonding and what doesn't based on the first line above.

You can check if things are bonded or not with a multimeter, one probe on the main bonding connection, or something that you know is bonded, and the other probe on the item in question.

Good luck
Alan
Elyse SM437
If it's bonded you'll read continuity on the ohms range, ie very low resistance...if it's not bonded the reading will be open circuit or maybe many megohms. 


Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

It’s definitely worth trying first before shelling out loads of money and running wires everywhere. Things are only getting better and cheaper with mobile networks too. We anchor 90% of the time during summer and most of that time we get 4G.. occasionally 3G. Coastal sailing too is never usually a problem.. sometimes we even get coverage 20km out! The thing is to find a sim plan that covers all of Europe and costs less than €1 per Gig. Some ‘unlimited’ plans have caps on ‘roaming’ outside your native country.. so check the small print. Our plan is UK address only but i’m sure there must be others out there. 


Re: Grounding for solar panels / solar arch

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Yikes, ok. Thanks Alan. I'll need to remedy this.

Do the metal parts in the exhaust systems qualify for bonding as well then? The muffler on my main engine is metal and the fittings on the generator's nonmetal muffler are also metal. The engine's muffler is bolted to the angle-iron frame, so maybe it's already bonded? I will check. Or perhaps none of this counts as these metal parts and the seawater in contact are isolated, not connected to the rest of the ocean or other parts of the boat? I don't think it would hurt to bond them... would it?

Appreciate the help.

Thanks,
Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ


Re: Generator monitoring

Stefano Silvestri <stefano.silvestri.51@...>
 

Thanks Bill, I'll have a look

All the best
Stefano


Re: Super Maramu Main Mast Furling foil Sheered

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

If there is noticeable play back and forth between the main foil and the bolt, is there anything one can do to slow down or minimize the metal-on-metal wear and tear? Perhaps a bushing or sleeve on the bolt would eliminate the gap, but there probably isn't enough space above and below the bolt as all the wear is horizontal.

Waiting until the foil shears itself would probably create some unneeded excitement at sea. Cutting/shortening the foil before it fails seems wasteful. Has anyone tried what Nick has suggested? An internal bushing slid up inside the foil to spread the loads and reduce fatigue seems like a good idea. Or perhaps with proper care the "three lives" provided by design is enough to cover one's lifetime if not the boat's lifetime. If that's the case, would it be advisable to cut my foil preemptively?

Graham, will you attempt any extra reinforcement when you do your repair?

Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ


Re: Super Maramu Main Mast Furling foil Sheered

Graham Boyd
 

Thanks everyone for the quick replies. I've owned Sula for 15 years now and pretty sure this repair wasn't done by the previous owner, so looks like it should be reasonably straight forward. Ten years ago we bought a new mainsail with small vertical battens from Deme Voils. Although through great care, we have had very few jams over these years, one does have to be quite disciplined in the manner one furls and unfurls compared to the non battened sail. Despite that we won't be going back to no battens at the next sail renewal.

Given her age and the huge amount of use our boat gets, a failure like this should probably have happened a lot earlier!

Graham 
SM140 Sula 
Hong Kong


Re: Super Maramu Passerelle Plans

Eamonn Washington
 

Hi Steve

I had a similar problem in Folgedranos 2 years  ago.  I had a new gangway made by the following company near Athens, specialising in aluminium:
Remora ltd.,  ioanna nikolaou  m: +30 6985 632700

 


Note that I gave them my old damaged one and they were able to reuse the steel parts, as well as having a decent template for the job.  Also, if you find the plans in the files section, it is for the narrow steps probably for your hull number (later SM the steps were 10cm wider).


Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique.


Re: Saint Maarten

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks so much 😁👍🏻


On Jan 27, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...> wrote:


The one in Cole Bay (or Simpson Bay Lagoon)


Here is Rhona email:
rhona@...

If you mention me, that I brought her "chocolate croissant" (then that I lost my boat), she will remember !  Just say you are a friend!

Sincerely, Alexandre





On Monday, January 27, 2020, 07:18:09 PM UTC, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <itsfun1@...> wrote:


Hi Alexandre
I found 3 Island Water Worlds in Saint Maarten can you tell me which bay the one you recommend is in?
Thanks
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saint Maarten

Not sure the attachment will show, here are a few pictures post Irma.  
You can see how destroyed what this marina.  
Reminder: Irma was a Category 5 and it was a direct hit.  




On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 08:49:39 PM UTC, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Good to know. I’m surprised they had much damage. The place is down a long canal, and completely surrounded.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt



Re: Masthead Tri Colour LOPOLIGHT A54

Denis Elborn
 

Hi martin,

I replaced my tricolour/anchor lopolight last season without too much difficulty. it is mounted on 3 spacers which didn’t match the base of the new light but as it is plastic no probs to drill the mounting holes to suit the mast. The new light also had ‘flying leads’ and not a terminal block that the original had so terminal connectors are needed for the new installation.

I have a new lopolight available as I ended up with 2 - a long story, If you are interested in buying it email me and we can discuss further. delborn@bigpond dot com.

Denis
Ex A54 Aventura

On 26 Jan 2020, at 12:24 am, luvkante via Groups.Io <luvkante@...> wrote:

Teun, 

gladly awaiting your pics.

My masthead situation should be similar to yours, Kaj had the same FLIR masthead camera as I.

Martin


Re: Saint Maarten

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

The one in Cole Bay (or Simpson Bay Lagoon)


Here is Rhona email:
rhona@...

If you mention me, that I brought her "chocolate croissant" (then that I lost my boat), she will remember !  Just say you are a friend!

Sincerely, Alexandre





On Monday, January 27, 2020, 07:18:09 PM UTC, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <itsfun1@...> wrote:


Hi Alexandre
I found 3 Island Water Worlds in Saint Maarten can you tell me which bay the one you recommend is in?
Thanks
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saint Maarten

Not sure the attachment will show, here are a few pictures post Irma.  
You can see how destroyed what this marina.  
Reminder: Irma was a Category 5 and it was a direct hit.  




On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 08:49:39 PM UTC, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Good to know. I’m surprised they had much damage. The place is down a long canal, and completely surrounded.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt



Re: Saint Maarten

Ian Townsend
 

We stayed at IWW in the Lagoon in 2015. At that time, we were satisfied with facility and generally with the service. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On Jan 27, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Hi Alexandre
I found 3 Island Water Worlds in Saint Maarten can you tell me which bay the one you recommend is in?
Thanks
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saint Maarten

Not sure the attachment will show, here are a few pictures post Irma.  
You can see how destroyed what this marina.  
Reminder: Irma was a Category 5 and it was a direct hit.  




On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 08:49:39 PM UTC, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Good to know. I’m surprised they had much damage. The place is down a long canal, and completely surrounded.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt



Re: Grounding for solar panels / solar arch

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Mike,
All METAL seacocks and thruhulls need to be connected to the bonding system.
All METAL that is in constant contact with seawater must be connected to the bonding system to avoid corrosion.
Sometimes you don't see the corrosion until it is too late i.e. the fitting fails catastrophically - you don't want that to happen!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Amel's suggestion to run the Volvo D3-110 (A54) daily while on passage

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Bill - do you mean that last section of exhaust looks modified/non-Amel or just generally speaking?

Ruslan - I like a shutoff valve because it absolutely solves the backflow problem. If I went that direction, I would prefer a basic (no switches or sensors) and non-metal part to eliminate corrosion. The only real problem, besides the hassle of installing it, is making sure it's open before starting the engine and as others have said, in an emergency it would not be good at all.

If anyone has any experience with the rubber non-return flap in the exhaust or anything similar please let me know. What does this thing look like?

If I could reach the exhaust from deck I'd probably go with the foam ball on a string method :) ...opportunity for a special tool here? Just kidding.

Thanks,
Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 5:23 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Mike,

I think you will discover that SM 23 has been modified by previous owners.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 8:14 PM SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
Thanks James! I've looked into all of those things except the internals of the injection elbow. I'll definitely check that as soon as I can. I'll give the muffler a double check while I'm at it. I'll let you know if I find anything... seems like I'm swallowing more seawater than most here.

Now something I overlooked earlier... at the through hull there is a little over a foot of extra wide pipe/hose. I'll attach a photo and hope it comes through. Looking up the exhaust from the outside, it appears to be totally hollow. This must be where the non-return rubber flap should be installed as referenced by Oliver and others.

Does anyone have any experience in replacing this? Probably best to source this part from Amel? Although given my SM is 1990, so this specific modification might be non-Amel for me. Is it just held in place with some marine adhesive?

Any advice is welcome here. Haulout is scheduled soon so it would be an ideal time to fit something.

Cheers,
Mike
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 3:30 PM James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mike,

   A few things that you might check on your exhaust system that could be the cause:

1.  Check to be sure that the exhaust hose is looped as high as possible between the muffler and the discharge.  Perhaps a previous owner used less hose and lowered the loop from the original design?  In order for seawater to enter from the exhaust port it has to climb over this loop so the higher is better.

2.  Insure that your muffler is working properly.  Run the engine, shut down and then remove the exhaust hose to the muffler.  I like to see the muffler less than 1/3 full due to the drain back from the exhaust hose.  In order for the engine to flood from the exhaust port the muffler first has to fill with water.  If the muffler has more water than this, you could have a problem inside the muffler that does not allow the engine to properly clear the muffler usually due to corrosion. 

3.  Engines can also flood from the seawater intake side of things.  The line should be looped as high above the WL as practical and there should be a vent at the top of the loop that must function or seawater can be siphoned over the loop and into the engine.   Insure that the vent is working properly. 

4.  Ensure that the seawater injection elbow normally located at the connection between the exhaust manifold and the exhaust hose is not corroded through.

My boat is a Maramu so our systems are probably somewhat different.  I have removed the exhaust hose a few times after a rough passage and before starting the engine to see how much water had accumulated in the muffler and so far the level has always been nominal, or about the same as after shutting down the engine while dockside.  I have therefore not been too concerned about running my engine on passage and have not had any water in the engine to date.  

There are a number of low pressure check valves that you can install in the exhaust system to help prevent seawater from being driven in the exhaust port that you could look into but I suspect your problem is due to a faulty component or some change that has been made in the design of the exhaust system.  Best of luck to you, seawater can sure do a lot of damage to your engine so I hope that you can find the cause and rectify it.

Best,

James

SV Sueno
Maramu #220

On Jan 25, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:

Hi Mike and everyone, this is the page where Charles Doane explains what he did at the end to deal with his flooded engine on his Boreal 47. 
His solution was a valve with electric switch to avoid accidental start with the valve closed. 
I’m a potential buyer and would like to understand if such a solution applicable in Amel’s setup. 
It would be great to eliminate one more worry to run an engine on a passage especially when seas are rough. Additionally when seas are rough diesel gunk can mix up and clog fuel filters, yet another problem to deal with. 


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:22 PM SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but I thought I should share our recent experiences on the issue...

We have experienced seawater backflow twice this year while on multiday passages in the South Pacific. The first time, we were unaware of Amel's suggestion to run the engine while sailing. The second time, armed with the knowledge that one should run the engine once a day, we had a crankcase full of seawater after 18 hours. It's now clear, as explained by Oliver, that under certain conditions, the running of the engine needs to happen more often.

Because we have a 1990 SM, there doesn't seem to be anything in the exhaust line to block/baffle/slow down sea water from backflowing toward the engine. We also have a stainless muffler without a drain. The old Perkins Prima M80T, still alive and well, may have survived simply by being old and worn, allowing the incompressible seawater to escape around the rings before bending any rods, blowing gaskets, or cracking the engine...?

At any rate, wouldn't the simplest solution be one that prevents seawater from entering the crankcase altogether? To me, the variables involved in deciding when and how often to run the engine are more complicated than something more bulletproof, like a valve. One has no way of knowing really how much seawater is being pushed up the exhaust in a given seaway. Let alone the fact that we are burning diesel for the sole purpose of producing exhaust gasses.

All that considered, I don't yet have an ideal solution. A muffler with a drain would probably cover it. Then depending on the passage, one can decide to pull the plug or to run the engine at certain intervals. For us, we will probably run the engine every couple of hours in a rough sea until I add a drain to the muffler or come up with something better. An engine full of seawater is a terrible thing to experience while making landfall after a long passage... I'm just grateful the engine survived and that we were carrying enough fresh oil.

If I do come up with a simple and "bulletproof" solution, I'll be sure to report back.

Cheers,
Mike & Hannah
SV TRILOGY
Opua, NZ

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I agree completely



On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 2:46 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Agree, seems quite a few of us are on the same pages on this KISS
Cheers 
Alan 
Elyse SM 437 






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Re: Saint Maarten

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Alexandre
I found 3 Island Water Worlds in Saint Maarten can you tell me which bay the one you recommend is in?
Thanks
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2020 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saint Maarten

Not sure the attachment will show, here are a few pictures post Irma.  
You can see how destroyed what this marina.  
Reminder: Irma was a Category 5 and it was a direct hit.  




On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 08:49:39 PM UTC, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Good to know. I’m surprised they had much damage. The place is down a long canal, and completely surrounded.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt



Re: Steyr motor turbocharger complete

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Jose,

I have no knowledge of the steyer motor but my volvo D275 habitually had the wastegate sticking as did the wastegate on my volvo tmd 22.

The shaft through the housing to the exterior lever gets a buildup on it that causes it to sieze. I disasembled and freed them up by mechanically moving it while adding lubricant. A slow but efective process but it always re seized. I have approached experts in Volvo and they had no solution. If you buy a new turbo the same thing will happen with the new one. I suspect there are many many siezed turbo wastegates out there but owners dont know it.

I have found the answer in a product called carbo clean. This applied to the shaft rapidly disolved the build up causing the seizing. To access it i had to remove the exhaust mixing elbow. Now  the initial problem is cleared I just apply it to the shaft externally. On the Volvo the shaft comes up from below so there isnt a gravity assist. If the steyer has the waste gate  shaft descending you will probably get results by applying carbo clean fom the exterior.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 28 January 2020 at 04:16 Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:

Dear colleagues

My Amel has one Steyer  motor 140 hp.
The waste gate is stuck and the turbo specialist tell me- " no way- you need replace the all turbo ".
I try contact the Steyr motors ( sales , service and office ) but no one give me any answer!....
Can you give me some ideas.
My boat is at Cleopatra marina dry dock - Preveza - Greece.

kindest regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37



Re: Mobile communications - 4G, WiFi

David Crisp
 

Hi Woody,
Thanks for the feedback. Based on that think I'll first experiment with the KISS approach and just hot spot with my iPhone. The reason I was erring towards a more complex (and expensive) setup was to ensure reception when anchored in more obscure places or sailing offshore. 
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Steyr motor turbocharger complete

Wolfgang Weber
 

Jose, 
Try to get in contact / repair by www.turbolader.net - new turbo is expensive.
Wolfgang 






Re: Steyr motor turbocharger complete

Arnold Mente
 

Hi, hope I can help you!

this is a big german yacht equipment dealer!! There you can order it!! Follow the link!


In May I will be in Preveza!!

Best Regards

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 27.01.2020 um 16:17 schrieb Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...>:

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José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 17:16, Jose Alegria <josealegr@...> wrote:
Dear colleagues

My Amel has one Steyer  motor 140 hp.
The waste gate is stuck and the turbo specialist tell me- " no way- you need replace the all turbo ".
I try contact the Steyr motors ( sales , service and office ) but no one give me any answer!....
Can you give me some ideas.
My boat is at Cleopatra marina dry dock - Preveza - Greece.

kindest regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37



Arnold Mente

Urbaniweg 12
7000 Eisenstadt 

Tel: +43 660 6699019

arnold.mente@...




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SY Zephyr SM203