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Re: vetus coupling removal

eric freedman
 

Hi Michelle,

Thank you for the excellent write-up of the work on your C drive. Do you happen to have a version in English?

I could not open it to cut out portions to translate.

Thanks

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of MICHELE LUCCIOLA
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:26 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi Herbert,
I did this job the last year....the only suggestion I can tell you is to remove the  gearbox with the  the vetus coupling installed (just dismount the fixings on the flange on the engine); in this way you can easily remove the axle on a bench because the space to work with the engine installed is very unconfortable. In fact also if you want to use an extractor (I did one with long arms) you have to pull the engine back to have a little bit of room....anyway you have to use not gentle manners to have a good results...but is better to work on a bench that in the engine compartment...in this way you can also change the  seal of the gearbox easily once removed the little shaft.
Just for your use i attach a pdf in which there is an explanation of the job....but I prefer to put the gearbox out of the boat with the shaft attached and to do the job in a confortable and safe way...
regards
Michele

An easy way to decouple the C drive.

eric freedman
 

The first photo is how I disassembled the C drive apparatus. The Disk brake hub and the C drive are exactly the same diameter—almost a pres fit.Yours is different.

 

When you have it apart take the part that connects to a machine shop and have them remove a few thousands from the inside diameter. Being that you do not have a disk brake the tool might or might not need modification. It also might be easier to disconnect the C drive from the attached mechanisms.

 

The alignment device is a copy of the more intricate one used by Amel. It was not my design. With the disk brake the bolts holding the disk to the coupling could not be removed. I cut them off and replaced them with a piece of threaded rod and nylocks to keep the assembly tight. I just check the nuts every year , so far they are as tight as installed.

If you have any more questions please do not hesitate to contact me as I Will be changing out my engine in April and will have even more info.

The PDF was from Olivier—

 

The disk is quite ugly and rusted. When I change out my engine , I am going to have one made of stainless steel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Herbert Lackner
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Engine Mounts and Decoupling Vetus/Engine Block

 

Woody,

having the Amel shaft alternator you should make the "alignment tool" longer as you have to take away the shaft alternator pulley for doing the alignment. It works if you have the tool according to the spec that you find in the forum, but if I would do it again I would add the width of the pulley to the length of the tool, would make the alignment much easier.  the process for the alignment itself is easy, in the water or on the hard, and you find all relevant information in the forum.

I had problems to get the vetus coupling of the drive-shaft, but with a hammer, a big puller and a lot of time it worked.

herbert, SN120

PDF
ENGINE alignment PHOTOS.pdf

Re: Plastic part holding most spotlights &

Nicolas Klene
 


-- Hello Ross and Donna 
unfortunately the Italian company making the spotlight have stoped making this part a while back ! Sorry not to be more helpful!
Cheers 
Nick

Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille
Re: Measure

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Stefano,

Maybe this helps you? The tape measure is in inches.

Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ
Re: New Wheel Leather

Steve Bode
 

Wait, here's a better shot.


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Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
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Re: rub rail insert

Steve Bode
 

We did this job on Intention. It was not tricky...once we did it. Two man job, 45 min.
I can send you the video.

--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com
What fits a 40x52x7 TC shaft seal on a SM?

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hello all,
I'm going through lots of spare parts onboard...
Quick question if anyone knows what a 40x52x7 lip seal might fit on a SuperMaramu? Doesn't seem to match anything related to the bow thruster, C-drive, prop shaft, furling motors, electric winches, etc... unless I'm missing something.
Perhaps just a miscellaneous spare, bought in error, etc..

Thanks,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ
Re: SM Prop Shaft Seal direction and Bushing

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Everyone, Craig and Jose especially,

I'm preparing to service the prop shaft wear bushing and seals. Curious how your seal orientations have worked out. Is the oil in the reservoir staying clean and constant level?

Any chance there is now consensus among the community or from Amel on this? I'm planning to follow the "Shaft Bushing and Seals Replacement" procedure posted by Eric and Gary.

Haven't had any problems with my C-Drive or the oil. I don't know when it was last serviced but at least 2.5 years, probably more(!). I'm curious to see how they are oriented when I take them out. I'm inclined to reinstall them the same way given the good performance.

Does anyone have any new data or current recommendations regarding these three seals?

Thanks,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ
Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

Ian Townsend
 

You're pretty close with that figure Steve. Yes, it's a big job but not overly complicated. If I can do it, believe me, anyone can. Good luck! Feel free to PM me with any questions. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On Feb 8, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:

Hey, Bill & Ian!  Wow! This is great! I'm on my way. Here's my first pass at a budget, using online retailers. Figure add 20% for other items. Shipping, too. So, maybe $7,000?
Ian, how far off am I?

Parts needed & Notes        
Three Units 1370 3 4,110  
Pump     300  
Bronze fittings     50  
Hose     100  
Fiberglass work     100  
Ducting     100  
New Through-hull?     300  
Misc     100  
      5,160  
Need to build mounting plates
        
Need to run thermostat wires and mount thermostats
        
Need to check for through-hull for cooling water egress
        

Still, looks like a BIG project. 

Kind Regards,

Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

Steve Bode
 

Hey, Bill & Ian!  Wow! This is great! I'm on my way. Here's my first pass at a budget, using online retailers. Figure add 20% for other items. Shipping, too. So, maybe $7,000?
Ian, how far off am I?

Parts needed & Notes        
Three Units 1370 3 4,110  
Pump     300  
Bronze fittings     50  
Hose     100  
Fiberglass work     100  
Ducting     100  
New Through-hull?     300  
Misc     100  
      5,160  
Need to build mounting plates
        
Need to run thermostat wires and mount thermostats
        
Need to check for through-hull for cooling water egress
        

Still, looks like a BIG project. 

Kind Regards,

Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com
Yanmar 4JH3HTE engine for sale

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I am selling my 4JH3HTE Yanmar engine late April.

It runs perfectly. There is no damage to the engine. About 6500 hours. Turbo 2 years old as are the injectors nozzles.

Burns ½ quart of oil every 24 hours of continuous running.

 

It will be in St Maarten, however I can ship it anywhere.

It will be sold without the alternators. The engine has been completely rewired.

 

If you are interested in discussing please contact me at kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 
Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

CW Bill Rouse
 

Steve, here you go: 

 AC Installation Directions SM153 New Install.pdf
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
  I have exactly what you need. I did not originate the file. I am asking the owner if it is ok to share and will get back to you.  
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
Hey, Friends,

I found a 'sponsor' who wants me to add air conditioning to Intention. Is this completely insane? I couldn't find anyone in the forum who's done it. Seems like it would be easier to buy a new boat! At first blush, it looks like I need to do the following:
- Buy three AC/Heater units, aft, cabin and forward compartments, cause the heater units that are currently installed there will be replaced
- Drill six holes in the hull and add through-hulls and valves, hose to connect the units, Do other boats pull sea water from another inlet like the toilet or something?
- what about seawater pumps? Are they needed? What about sea strainers?
- Buy 90˚ hard-plastic pipes that go on the end of the units
- buy some kinda ducting to feed the cool air into a vent somehow
- Build mounting plates and securing bolts to keep the units in place
- Figure out how to get 220v to the units
- Run control wire up to a thermostat and figure out how to mount that thing.
- Add a switch to the 220v control panel that somehow turns off all three units?!

Anyone done this? Would you recommend I fake a major injury instead of take this on?
--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

CW Bill Rouse
 

Perfect
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 11:52 AM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
Bill, it's totally fine with me to share the file I created for the AC install we did in 2017 on Loca Lola II. 

Everything continues to run well. We are very happy with the equipment choices we made. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:44 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

  I have exactly what you need. I did not originate the file. I am asking the owner if it is ok to share and will get back to you.  
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
Hey, Friends,

I found a 'sponsor' who wants me to add air conditioning to Intention. Is this completely insane? I couldn't find anyone in the forum who's done it. Seems like it would be easier to buy a new boat! At first blush, it looks like I need to do the following:
- Buy three AC/Heater units, aft, cabin and forward compartments, cause the heater units that are currently installed there will be replaced
- Drill six holes in the hull and add through-hulls and valves, hose to connect the units, Do other boats pull sea water from another inlet like the toilet or something?
- what about seawater pumps? Are they needed? What about sea strainers?
- Buy 90˚ hard-plastic pipes that go on the end of the units
- buy some kinda ducting to feed the cool air into a vent somehow
- Build mounting plates and securing bolts to keep the units in place
- Figure out how to get 220v to the units
- Run control wire up to a thermostat and figure out how to mount that thing.
- Add a switch to the 220v control panel that somehow turns off all three units?!

Anyone done this? Would you recommend I fake a major injury instead of take this on?
--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

Ian Townsend
 

Bill, it's totally fine with me to share the file I created for the AC install we did in 2017 on Loca Lola II. 

Everything continues to run well. We are very happy with the equipment choices we made. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:44 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

  I have exactly what you need. I did not originate the file. I am asking the owner if it is ok to share and will get back to you.  
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar
cloudHQPowered by
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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
Hey, Friends,

I found a 'sponsor' who wants me to add air conditioning to Intention. Is this completely insane? I couldn't find anyone in the forum who's done it. Seems like it would be easier to buy a new boat! At first blush, it looks like I need to do the following:
- Buy three AC/Heater units, aft, cabin and forward compartments, cause the heater units that are currently installed there will be replaced
- Drill six holes in the hull and add through-hulls and valves, hose to connect the units, Do other boats pull sea water from another inlet like the toilet or something?
- what about seawater pumps? Are they needed? What about sea strainers?
- Buy 90˚ hard-plastic pipes that go on the end of the units
- buy some kinda ducting to feed the cool air into a vent somehow
- Build mounting plates and securing bolts to keep the units in place
- Figure out how to get 220v to the units
- Run control wire up to a thermostat and figure out how to mount that thing.
- Add a switch to the 220v control panel that somehow turns off all three units?!

Anyone done this? Would you recommend I fake a major injury instead of take this on?
--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: Adding Air Conditioning to '94 SM #117

CW Bill Rouse
 

  I have exactly what you need. I did not originate the file. I am asking the owner if it is ok to share and will get back to you.  
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
View My Training Calendar
cloudHQPowered by
cloudHQ


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
Hey, Friends,

I found a 'sponsor' who wants me to add air conditioning to Intention. Is this completely insane? I couldn't find anyone in the forum who's done it. Seems like it would be easier to buy a new boat! At first blush, it looks like I need to do the following:
- Buy three AC/Heater units, aft, cabin and forward compartments, cause the heater units that are currently installed there will be replaced
- Drill six holes in the hull and add through-hulls and valves, hose to connect the units, Do other boats pull sea water from another inlet like the toilet or something?
- what about seawater pumps? Are they needed? What about sea strainers?
- Buy 90˚ hard-plastic pipes that go on the end of the units
- buy some kinda ducting to feed the cool air into a vent somehow
- Build mounting plates and securing bolts to keep the units in place
- Figure out how to get 220v to the units
- Run control wire up to a thermostat and figure out how to mount that thing.
- Add a switch to the 220v control panel that somehow turns off all three units?!

Anyone done this? Would you recommend I fake a major injury instead of take this on?
--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: AM54 inverter 24/220 volts

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Randall,

so good to hear from you, THY so much! I really appreciate your support and are wondering about your pics and recommendation how to do.

Best wishes and fair winds, whereever 
Ulrich / „Soleil Bleu"
AM 54/#88
<> 
Am 08.02.2020 um 14:48 schrieb Randall Walker <sailingalbedo@...>:

Ulrich I have the repair kit somewhere on my boat. I plan to replace my counter top. but if I can find the repair kit, I will take a pic and send the info on where to order. It was ordered in the UK. it is a two part epoxy type repair kit.
I will get looking for it,

Cheers,
Randall
A-54 #56

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:32 AM ULRICH DANGELMEYER <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Dear all, THX so much,
I really appreciate all your investigation and recommendation. thats all true. The previous owner obviously didn´t ordered this regular inverter from Amel.
Until today I also can´t find any special inverter switch on the Gen panel, also nothing in engine room close to the chargers. As 2 years ago our 100A Mastervolt charger died,I made the mistake not to order an Mastervolt Mass Combi Charger/Inverter. sh... happens. 
The both small blue Victrons under the chart table I recognized already, just for mobil charging and onboard computers and TV set...Too slim for regular housekeeping devices, so we use a watercooker to boil our daily amount of hot water for coffee and tea. Then we keep it hot until next day in a Thermos jar.
Now if we are all together let me ask an other issue: our Corian worktop beside the sinks got a crack about 15 cm. Is there any possibility to repair or filling up with identical material without need to exchange the complete worktop? Corian is an artificial composite material, so should be able to repair from surface down?
Any suggestions and ideas are very warm welcome. THX!

Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" /AM54/#88 



Re: A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?

James Alton
 

Arno,

   No problem at all, thanks for taking the time to help answer my question about the service disconnect switch on your A54. As you correctly point out my bow thruster is a 12V model so the amp draw at the same power is 2X.  I believe my bow thruster motor is only about 4.2KW so the amp draw should be similar to yours.  I am bringing a Fluke clamp meter to my boat this winter to see if I can better pin down the draw.  I sent an email to the manufacturer of the switch to see if they felt that it would work in my application.  I want to be sure that the switch would open in an emergency if there were a short in the bow thruster circuit.  I like the wide separation of the contacts of this switch which makes me think that this switch might work in such an emergency so long as the contacts did not weld together!  

Best,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220



   
I believe that this is the original engine service disconnect switch for my Maramu so 32 years old.  This is how the contacts looked before I cleaned them up.   If you look carefully at the center of the left hand portion of the switch, there is  a hole/bearing that the shaft inserts into a hole.  This is where  the Phenolic had cracks.  This caused the shaft to not center correctly so the contacts probably were not mating perfectly.  This could explain the reason that "exercising" the switch can sometimes restore function. The problem in my case was apparently this mechanical issue in the switch rather than being corrosion or burning of the contact surfaces which has been the case on almost every other switch failure I have investigated.  To open the switch, I just had to carefully open the tabs that were pressed in on each side.  

   

On Feb 8, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

Hi James,

Sorry to hijack your question directed to Bill. The picture is actually from our boat.
The brand of the switch is the same as yours. However on an 54 we run a 24 volt system so most loads are producing only half the amps compared to a 12 volt system. Not so for the bowthruster, it uses about 8 kW, something like 350-400 amps @ 24v. The main switches can handle that easy as the actual switching never occurs at high amperage.
Thanks for the tip on the mechanical issues you found with the switch. Mine have been suffering from a voltage loss as well occasionally. Until now I was able to resolve this by exercising the switch a few times. 


Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna?
A54-121
Re: AM54 inverter 24/220 volts

Randall Walker
 

Ulrich I have the repair kit somewhere on my boat. I plan to replace my counter top. but if I can find the repair kit, I will take a pic and send the info on where to order. It was ordered in the UK. it is a two part epoxy type repair kit.
I will get looking for it,

Cheers,
Randall
A-54 #56

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:32 AM ULRICH DANGELMEYER <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Dear all, THX so much,
I really appreciate all your investigation and recommendation. thats all true. The previous owner obviously didn´t ordered this regular inverter from Amel.
Until today I also can´t find any special inverter switch on the Gen panel, also nothing in engine room close to the chargers. As 2 years ago our 100A Mastervolt charger died,I made the mistake not to order an Mastervolt Mass Combi Charger/Inverter. sh... happens. 
The both small blue Victrons under the chart table I recognized already, just for mobil charging and onboard computers and TV set...Too slim for regular housekeeping devices, so we use a watercooker to boil our daily amount of hot water for coffee and tea. Then we keep it hot until next day in a Thermos jar.
Now if we are all together let me ask an other issue: our Corian worktop beside the sinks got a crack about 15 cm. Is there any possibility to repair or filling up with identical material without need to exchange the complete worktop? Corian is an artificial composite material, so should be able to repair from surface down?
Any suggestions and ideas are very warm welcome. THX!

Ulrich
"Soleil Bleu" /AM54/#88 

Re: rub rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

Gary, I don't understand the cost of $2686. for the insert/scupper ,Maud quoted me about $798. Euro . I agree a painted boat is much easier to keep clean and shiny. The paint is not porous like the gelcoat ,thus does not hold stains. I will use your time for labor to install the scuppers to negotiate a better price before submitting to my insurance company. 
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] rub rail insert

I obtained my rub rail insert (I call it "scupper") from SAV in Dec 2017 for repairs Liahona ( Hull # 335) sustained during Hurricanes Irma and Maria.  The material, including shipping (air freight) to Puerto Rico was $,2686 US.  Removal of the original scupper is very quick (easily less than one hour),  I wasn't present when they inserted the new scupper but did see it done to Liahona's sister boat, "Cloud Street" (Hull # 333 I believe) done a few weeks after my boat was done.  I would estimate that it took two workers about 4 hrs per side to install the new scupper material. 

Sorry for thread creep: Following hurricane repairs my hull, boot stripe, rub rail, and toe rail (including all hatch surrounds and hatch areas that were matching color) were painted with multiple coats of epoxy primer followed by multiple coats (5 as I recall) of Awlcraft.  It was explained and demonstrated to me that re-gel coating damaged areas would lead to excessive porosity and poor outcome.  It was further explained to me that Awlcraft was easier to repair than Awlgrip and that is why it was recommended to me.  It looks great and my boat maintenance has decreased since I don't have to wax the toe rail and rub rail every couple of months.  I choose Awlgrip for my deck-stripe repaint due to it being harder and more abrasion resistant.  

All the best, 

Gary S Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey Marina,  Puerto Rico

Re: A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?

Arno Luijten
 

Hi James,

Sorry to hijack your question directed to Bill. The picture is actually from our boat.
The brand of the switch is the same as yours. However on an 54 we run a 24 volt system so most loads are producing only half the amps compared to a 12 volt system. Not so for the bowthruster, it uses about 8 kW, something like 350-400 amps @ 24v. The main switches can handle that easy as the actual switching never occurs at high amperage.
Thanks for the tip on the mechanical issues you found with the switch. Mine have been suffering from a voltage loss as well occasionally. Until now I was able to resolve this by exercising the switch a few times. 


Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna?
A54-121
7161 - 7180 of 57503