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Re: Recommended solar panel brand

Matt Salatino
 

We had good luck with Trina’s on our previous boat. Installing 3, SunPower 390’s, 1.7 X 1 meter, on the new boat. They make a 400 in same size, but we’ll save €110 for 30 watts less...... I’m good with that.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 10, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Some of the newer technologies offer better charging with lower angles of the sun. This is the reason for the primary difference in price. Also, flexible panels can run a lot more money. Of course, there are those manufacturers who like to have higher margins. So, it pays to look closely at the specs. We installed two LG panels and are very happy with the performance.

 

LG 315W Solar Panel LG315N1C-G4 Mono (33.2Vmp,9.5A 60 Cell) Black frame

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Galapagos

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Crisp
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Recommended solar panel brand

 

I've been scouring this group and the web looking at what solar panels to get. The various brands appear to all offer very similar specifications yet the price variance is huge.
For example an LG 330 NeON 2Black panel is UK£223 vs. the Trina Solar, 335W Half Cut Mono Solar Module at UK£109 (all exVAT). 
The only significant difference between the two brands that I can see is in the warranty performance after 25 years: LG warranty is for 90% of initial spec'n vs. the Trinasolar's 81%.
I see some of you have bought LG, someone else has gone for Watts/£ and Bisol. Has anyone discovered any major difference between the brands? Any recommendations?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

Re: Steering racks for SN, SM & 54

Aras
 

I too am looking forward to have the steering cables replaced for my Sharki

Aras
S/V Fiasco Sharki #163


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:25 PM smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Tom
It would be great to hear what Amel say about this
My 1985 Maramu has the Morse Commander 401
rack and pinion setup. Perhaps you have the same ?
I took the rack apart a year ago before an ocean passage and it all looked in great shape but I’d certainly consider this as a useful spare to have in the locker !

All the very best

Miles
#162 Maramu


On Sunday, February 9, 2020, 04:18:02 PM GMT, amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:


Thanks Bill
On the to do list 
Tom
Aphrodite 


On Feb 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Tom,

I am not sure. I believe that Maramus have the same rack. You should send an email to SAV"@"Amel.fr and ask. Please let me know at email below what they say.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:53 AM amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:
Good day Bill
I was wondering if Amel would have the racks for a 1983 Maramu # 125.
Barra De Navidad Mexico
200 miles to go for a circumnavigation !!
Thanks TOM Deasy 


On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:07 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


This is to notify you that SAV"at"Amel.fr will have the steering racks available to ship in a few weeks. I understand that they have them, and are currently testing the installation.

I would like to point out to everyone that this is really admirable on the part of Amel. When I contacted the US branch of the company that originally made these racks, there was not any desire on their part to make these discontinued racks available. I am not sure if Amel convinced them, or found someone else to make the racks, but in either case, Amel used their expertise and leverage to support owners with a discontinued manufacturer's part that Amel has not used since the last 54 was produced. Among boat builders, I believe this is remarkable. I know that Maud and Thierry were very supportive of all of us.

Bill

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--
Aras

Re: Recommended solar panel brand

Mark Erdos
 

Some of the newer technologies offer better charging with lower angles of the sun. This is the reason for the primary difference in price. Also, flexible panels can run a lot more money. Of course, there are those manufacturers who like to have higher margins. So, it pays to look closely at the specs. We installed two LG panels and are very happy with the performance.

 

LG 315W Solar Panel LG315N1C-G4 Mono (33.2Vmp,9.5A 60 Cell) Black frame

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Galapagos

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Crisp
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Recommended solar panel brand

 

I've been scouring this group and the web looking at what solar panels to get. The various brands appear to all offer very similar specifications yet the price variance is huge.
For example an LG 330 NeON 2Black panel is UK£223 vs. the Trina Solar, 335W Half Cut Mono Solar Module at UK£109 (all exVAT). 
The only significant difference between the two brands that I can see is in the warranty performance after 25 years: LG warranty is for 90% of initial spec'n vs. the Trinasolar's 81%.
I see some of you have bought LG, someone else has gone for Watts/£ and Bisol. Has anyone discovered any major difference between the brands? Any recommendations?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

Re: A54: Cable length between main mast head and chart table

 

I believe that 25m is not correct. 

On an SM, I replaced the B&G 213MHU Mount which comes with a choice of cable length. I bought the 25m length. It terminates in a junction box behind a panel on the aft bulkhead of the forward head on an SM. I had about 2m extra. I believe on a 54 you will need 25m for a B&G 213 MHU Mount, so certainly to go to the Nav Table, you'll need more than 25m.

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On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:16 AM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone know the precise length of cable required to go from the top of the main mast to the chart table through the standard conduit on the Amel 54? For instance for the VHF antenna cable.

I’m considering using an pre-crimped FME-terminated RG-8x VHF cable and I need to select the correct length.

A contact at Pochon said « probably » 25m and a trusted owner said maybe 28m.


Thanks
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Nuku Hiva, French Polynesia 


Re: New Wheel Leather

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Here is how we did on Lady Annila.



Regards
Ann-Sofie on S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone

10 feb. 2020 kl. 14:37 skrev karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>:


We want to wrap our wheel and companionway handrail, too.  That's the nicest one I have seen yet!  Does that braid have a name?  Instructions on how to do it?

Michelle, you are hired!

Thanks

Kent and Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Bahamas, heading South

On Feb 8, 2020 3:33 AM, Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
I think Michelle did a really nice job on our helm...

--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com

Re: Steering racks for SN, SM & 54

smiles bernard
 

Hi Tom
It would be great to hear what Amel say about this
My 1985 Maramu has the Morse Commander 401
rack and pinion setup. Perhaps you have the same ?
I took the rack apart a year ago before an ocean passage and it all looked in great shape but I’d certainly consider this as a useful spare to have in the locker !

All the very best

Miles
#162 Maramu


On Sunday, February 9, 2020, 04:18:02 PM GMT, amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:


Thanks Bill
On the to do list 
Tom
Aphrodite 


On Feb 9, 2020, at 10:04 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Tom,

I am not sure. I believe that Maramus have the same rack. You should send an email to SAV"@"Amel.fr and ask. Please let me know at email below what they say.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:53 AM amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:
Good day Bill
I was wondering if Amel would have the racks for a 1983 Maramu # 125.
Barra De Navidad Mexico
200 miles to go for a circumnavigation !!
Thanks TOM Deasy 


On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:07 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


This is to notify you that SAV"at"Amel.fr will have the steering racks available to ship in a few weeks. I understand that they have them, and are currently testing the installation.

I would like to point out to everyone that this is really admirable on the part of Amel. When I contacted the US branch of the company that originally made these racks, there was not any desire on their part to make these discontinued racks available. I am not sure if Amel convinced them, or found someone else to make the racks, but in either case, Amel used their expertise and leverage to support owners with a discontinued manufacturer's part that Amel has not used since the last 54 was produced. Among boat builders, I believe this is remarkable. I know that Maud and Thierry were very supportive of all of us.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
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A54: Cable length between main mast head and chart table

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

Does anyone know the precise length of cable required to go from the top of the main mast to the chart table through the standard conduit on the Amel 54? For instance for the VHF antenna cable.

I’m considering using an pre-crimped FME-terminated RG-8x VHF cable and I need to select the correct length.

A contact at Pochon said « probably » 25m and a trusted owner said maybe 28m.


Thanks
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Nuku Hiva, French Polynesia 


Re: BOW THRUSTER

 

I think you completely disassembled the BT. Yours may be old enough that it has locking pins for the larger gear. If so, did you miss these pins:
image.png

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On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:41 AM Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi,

so finally my BT is back in again (SN). I had the impression that it has never had a overhaul since 25 years. But... amazingly all gears and bearings are still in excellent condition except the seals which were basically gone.
However, after everything was assembled again and connected to the motor, it worked perfectly up n down and more powerful left n right (with oil and not honey in the BT) but unfortunately after some tests the gear from the motor disconnected from the BT. Meaning Motor is turning but BT is dead. all screws are in and tight... I didnt have time to furthet investigate and will ne gone for a while now thinking about it...🧐
Anyone with the same experience or ideas?!
Also some pics attached 
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

Re: A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?

Sv Garulfo
 

Scott,

I am with Ruedi on that one. You may have voltage but a bad cable crimp connection may prevent current to flow. I you have a clamp amp meters, you can easily check current is within spec. 
I would check that short cable. 


Hope you’ll quickly find a solution. 


Best 

Thomas



On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 06:35, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
Hi Scott, 
Matt's input sounds familiar to me and it is worth to touch each and every cable inside and around the Sleipner BT.

I had a similar experience few month ago where the BT sometimes worked and sometimes not. I measured all cables with the Volt Meter and all the circuits showed me the Voltage as expected in working order. I was close to give up after tested all Voltages, also the BT-Motor including the brushes looked good. Then I started (with the Ohm-Meter) to measure  the residences on the cables which should be very low with that sizes of cables. I found a short cable who had a bit higher resistant.

But the connections looked good because the cable and cable-ring terminals where put together with shrink-tubes. I disconnected the cable and pulled on it and the ring-terminal came off. The result you can find on the pictures attached. The cable looked like welded OFF¨! New cables solved the problem. 

Ruedi Waldispuehl
SV WASABI - Marina di Ragusa (Sicily)
AMEL 54 #55 (2007)

Re: SM Prop Shaft Seal direction and Bushing

 

If you had a choice of:
Choice A protecting the loss of oil and destruction of the C-Drive
Choice B protecting from some seawater intrusion causing a haulout
Which would you choose?
image.png


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On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:15 AM Jean-Pierre Massicotte <Massicotte.j.p@...> wrote:
Hello Mike, Amel recommandations is to change the seals and bushing every 700 h of use. Also recommend 2 seals protecting the oil side and one on the water side.

We before crossing the Pacific we reverse this logic since haul up facility are fare apart and if water get in here it could make a big mess in the engine room by over flowing.
(We use the shaft alternator during all crossing)
It's very important to clean well the seal seating on the water side and make sure no residue remain.

Regards

Jean Pierre Massicotte
SN 51

On Sun., Feb. 9, 2020, 09:51 Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io, <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Mike,
I suspect there is nothing new on this nor any particular consensus - it may well have migrated from engineering to philosophy ;-)
If yours is fine you may want to follow the adage of, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".  Or change it and in a couple of years add to the anecdotal evidence being accumulated.
Cheers, Craig

Re: Recommended solar panel brand

Matt Salatino
 

Years ago, when manufacturing techniques were highly variable, different manufacturers had a big impact on panel reliability. These days, the solar cell is the main differentiator, and mostly based on improved efficiency. If you’re satisfied with size vs output, Trina is a fine manufacturer.
We used SunPower (a premium brand) and Trina (less expensive, lower efficiency cells), but had better reliability from the Trina panels. Our SunPower was down to 55% of rated output after 4 years. They also would not honor warranty, as it wasn’t a home installation made by a professional installer. They refused to warranty on a boat. The replacement Trina’s were at 100%, 5 years later. Given the choices today, if the output and size of the Trina panels met my requirements, I’d happily go with them.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:46 AM, David Crisp <david@...> wrote:

I've been scouring this group and the web looking at what solar panels to get. The various brands appear to all offer very similar specifications yet the price variance is huge.
For example an LG 330 NeON 2Black panel is UK£223 vs. the Trina Solar, 335W Half Cut Mono Solar Module at UK£109 (all exVAT). 
The only significant difference between the two brands that I can see is in the warranty performance after 25 years: LG warranty is for 90% of initial spec'n vs. the Trinasolar's 81%.
I see some of you have bought LG, someone else has gone for Watts/£ and Bisol. Has anyone discovered any major difference between the brands? Any recommendations?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

Re: Volvo Penta MD21A - Lift pump kit and radiator cap

marklesparkle59
 

Hi Andrew,
I use parts4engines. They are helpful and have a useful website. Some older Volvo parts are identical to Perkins parts and much cheaper.
Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki #96



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-------- Original message --------
From: Andrew Eaves <andyeaves@...>
Date: 10/02/2020 15:26 (GMT+00:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo Penta MD21A - Lift pump kit and radiator cap

Hi all,

Spoken to a number of Volvo dealers here in Greece and the UK and the two above parts are obsolete. So in Volvo terms, 'we no longer sell a simple radiator cap, simply replace the engine instead'.

OK so being slightly funny here but this is the issue.

I can send a picture but on Ebay this is classed as a vintage radiator cap which at 40+ years old I agree with, however can anyone recommend places to get a simple service kit for a lift pump and more importantly this radiator cap?

Thanks all

Andrew

Re: Recommended solar panel brand

Ryan Meador
 

We've had good experience with SunPower.  We were looking specifically for flexible panels for our bimini because we didn't want to add an arch, so maybe what we found isn't quite applicable to you.  There is a huge variance in the quality and price, as you discovered.  My wife, Kelly, has a background in solar power and did all the research for our installation.  She decided on SunPower E-flex 100W panels which have very high efficiency and low cost (now they're 110W in the same size and price).  We bought them through Sun Powered Yachts.  We've been very happy with the performance -- our 500W of panels meets over 90% of our demand while at anchor (and probably exceeds demand in northern latitudes, but we haven't collected as much data outside the tropics).  Kelly wrote up a detailed article on our installation which was published in January's issue of Sail Magazine.  Unfortunately it's not online yet, so I can't give you a link.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:46 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
I've been scouring this group and the web looking at what solar panels to get. The various brands appear to all offer very similar specifications yet the price variance is huge.
For example an LG 330 NeON 2Black panel is UK£223 vs. the Trina Solar, 335W Half Cut Mono Solar Module at UK£109 (all exVAT). 
The only significant difference between the two brands that I can see is in the warranty performance after 25 years: LG warranty is for 90% of initial spec'n vs. the Trinasolar's 81%.
I see some of you have bought LG, someone else has gone for Watts/£ and Bisol. Has anyone discovered any major difference between the brands? Any recommendations?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

Re: A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Scott, 
Matt's input sounds familiar to me and it is worth to touch each and every cable inside and around the Sleipner BT.

I had a similar experience few month ago where the BT sometimes worked and sometimes not. I measured all cables with the Volt Meter and all the circuits showed me the Voltage as expected in working order. I was close to give up after tested all Voltages, also the BT-Motor including the brushes looked good. Then I started (with the Ohm-Meter) to measure  the residences on the cables which should be very low with that sizes of cables. I found a short cable who had a bit higher resistant.

But the connections looked good because the cable and cable-ring terminals where put together with shrink-tubes. I disconnected the cable and pulled on it and the ring-terminal came off. The result you can find on the pictures attached. The cable looked like welded OFF¨! New cables solved the problem. 

Ruedi Waldispuehl
SV WASABI - Marina di Ragusa (Sicily)
AMEL 54 #55 (2007)

Re: Paranoia about the D3-110 Volvo Penta - diesel bug

Mark Erdos
 

For those following this thread, here is a link that may provide more insight (there are also links within the link):

 

https://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/preventing-fuel-problems-in-marine-diesel-engines

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Galapagos

www.creampuff.us

 

 

Re: Volvo Penta MD21A - Lift pump kit and radiator cap

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Andrew,

Takt a look on parts4engines.com!

Best 

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 10.02.2020 um 16:26 schrieb Andrew Eaves <andyeaves@...>:

Hi all,

Spoken to a number of Volvo dealers here in Greece and the UK and the two above parts are obsolete. So in Volvo terms, 'we no longer sell a simple radiator cap, simply replace the engine instead'.

OK so being slightly funny here but this is the issue.

I can send a picture but on Ebay this is classed as a vintage radiator cap which at 40+ years old I agree with, however can anyone recommend places to get a simple service kit for a lift pump and more importantly this radiator cap?

Thanks all

Andrew



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203

Recommended solar panel brand

David Crisp
 

I've been scouring this group and the web looking at what solar panels to get. The various brands appear to all offer very similar specifications yet the price variance is huge.
For example an LG 330 NeON 2Black panel is UK£223 vs. the Trina Solar, 335W Half Cut Mono Solar Module at UK£109 (all exVAT). 
The only significant difference between the two brands that I can see is in the warranty performance after 25 years: LG warranty is for 90% of initial spec'n vs. the Trinasolar's 81%.
I see some of you have bought LG, someone else has gone for Watts/£ and Bisol. Has anyone discovered any major difference between the brands? Any recommendations?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

Re: Howes fuel treatment

Matt Salatino
 

You certainly don’t need to fill your tank to the top, if you don’t care about collecting water in your fuel, and the associated issues.
It’s certainly your choice!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:

Why fill up your tank to the max when you know where you want to go?

I think filling it up to the max only makes sense when you go for a really long passage and then you add some anti diesel bug adds.
When you fly on an airliner to your boat they only take as much fuel as they need plus alternate, contingency and a bit more for unforeseens.

--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

Volvo Penta MD21A - Lift pump kit and radiator cap

Andrew Eaves
 

Hi all,

Spoken to a number of Volvo dealers here in Greece and the UK and the two above parts are obsolete. So in Volvo terms, 'we no longer sell a simple radiator cap, simply replace the engine instead'.

OK so being slightly funny here but this is the issue.

I can send a picture but on Ebay this is classed as a vintage radiator cap which at 40+ years old I agree with, however can anyone recommend places to get a simple service kit for a lift pump and more importantly this radiator cap?

Thanks all

Andrew

Re: Howes fuel treatment

Bernd Spanner
 

Why fill up your tank to the max when you know where you want to go?

I think filling it up to the max only makes sense when you go for a really long passage and then you add some anti diesel bug adds.
When you fly on an airliner to your boat they only take as much fuel as they need plus alternate, contingency and a bit more for unforeseens.

--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal