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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Joerg Esdorn
 

Hi Mohammad, I have the CL 340 in Hypalon and it's in good shape after 4 seasons in the Med.  The French dealer in La Rochelle convinced me that Hypalon is the way to go for the Med/Caribbean.   I have the Amel provided davits on the 55 but I have some custom brackets which fixate the dinghy very well - no sliding or other movement whatsoever.  see pics.  For passages, I put on a cover to prevent a wave from filling the dinghy and I've not had any problems.  For offshore passages with a chance of serious gales, like a Transatlantic West to East, however, I would put the dinghy on the aft deck and the engine in the aft locker.   For one, I don't think I could deploy a drogue with the dinghy hanging from the davits.  

I hope this helps.     

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem

Fuel tank cleaning

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I have noticed that there is sludge sticking to the bottom of the fuel dip stick. After enquiring about getting the tank cleaned I have some questions:

 

Are there baffles in the tank that may restrict access to the bottom of the tank in places? I notice that there are two inspection hatches, of which the forward has an electrical cable connected to a terminal on top of it. I would also like to know what that is for.

 

It was also suggested to me that the tank may be sloping downwards towards the fore so the forward part may accumulate more sludge than what my dip stick may be indicating. Is this the case?

 

Which leads to … where is the fuel outlet – fore or aft?

 

My appreciations in advance for any answers!

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

John Clanton <jclanton@...>
 

Mohammad,

 

We have had the 340 for two seasons and have been happy with it. 

 

The one drawback when Med mooring is that the gangway can’t be deployed when the tender is on the davits.  When Med mooring, we typically tie up leaving enough room between the stern and the quay to lower the dinghy to the water, then are able to extend the gangway.

 

 

John W. Clanton

S/V Devereux

Antibes, France

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

I have experimented with several tenders (5 in total over 2 years) including 2 HIGHFIELDS and finally settled on a OCT (Offshore Cruising Tender – made in NEW ZEALAND) 350. Extremely happy with this tender. Very light (48 kg) – lighter than the HIGHFIELD(s); high freeboard – no water coming in at all. Besides fitting on the sundeck for limited time when making a really large crossing I have it in the davits. My main considerations were: A) No water coming in or wet butt when sitting on the side; B) Comfortable ride; C) Easy to handle when beached during low tide etc.

 

I might see you this week for coffee and we can discuss in detail.

 

Best Regards Teun

February 17, 2020 07:46:11

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 16:55
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

 

Hi all;

 

We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:

 

  1. Opinions on the Highfield line of tenders. Good or bad.
  2. The CL310 seems to be a bit short and the bow may not sit firmly on the Davit when pulled up. The CL340 works great but will be wider the transom creating issues in tight docking quarters. What is the shortest length used by A54 owners with success?
  3. Can some one provide a measurement from the back of the mizzenmast to the mizzen traveler? I’d like to see which tender would fit on the aft sundeck.
  4. Opinions on carrying the tender deflated, pulled up and firmly lashed to the Davits during crossings? I’m concerned about following seas and waves hitting the tender and placing a substantial force on the Davits.
  5. PVC or Hypalon? There is about a 2000 Euro upcharge for Hypalon.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Wolfgang. The pictures are very helpful.

 

What is the spacing between your Davits? On our factory installed Davits the lifting points are 210cm apart and I believe the bow of the CL310 will barely catch the Davit.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 6:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

 

I have the Highfield 310 in Hypalon and Yamaha 15 HP 2-stroke which is far better than my old Zodiac Fastroller 320.
I think a 340 is to big.
It is possible to open the hatch of the shower even if the dinghy is over the hatch. Enough space to use the winches at the mizzenmast.
On passages ( normal sea, not  transocean ) the  dinghy is  fixed  to  Cooneymarine Oval 15Zero davits with dyneema.
On the aftdeck I use a 50 USD Protection from walmart against the sun.
Wolfgang SY ELISE Amel 54 #162

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Jamie.

 

Keep in mind that the CL340 (same length as our current Zodiac) is wider than the stern and therefore does create issues when leaving the dock when docked stern to in tight quarters in strong cross winds. As an example, if you have a sail boat of similar or smaller size docked next to you, the bow on the dinghy will be at the same height as the life lines of that boat and as you leave dock, in a strong cross wind, the bow of the dinghy may catch the stanchions of the boat next to you.

 

This obviously mainly applies to the Med where you mostly dock stern to. However, the advantages of the CL340 seem to far outweigh the downsides and this is where we are leaning.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jamie Wendell via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 4:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

 

I have always carried my Apex HD (hypalon) 3.1-meter dinghy on the davits during crossing and have never had a problem (always stored the motor separately on the railing). I have custom davits that are very high, so if I get a wave high enough to hit or fill the dinghy I will have far greater concerns......?
Since the Apex is now nearly 8 years old, I have ordered a new (slightly larger) Highfield CL340. This time, I will be keeping the motor on the dinghy.
I have my fingers crossed it will all work out when I get it in May.
Jamie
Phantom A54 #44

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Wolfgang Weber
 

I have the Highfield 310 in Hypalon and Yamaha 15 HP 2-stroke which is far better than my old Zodiac Fastroller 320.
I think a 340 is to big.
It is possible to open the hatch of the shower even if the dinghy is over the hatch. Enough space to use the winches at the mizzenmast.
On passages ( normal sea, not  transocean ) the  dinghy is  fixed  to  Cooneymarine Oval 15Zero davits with dyneema.
On the aftdeck I use a 50 USD Protection from walmart against the sun.
Wolfgang SY ELISE Amel 54 #162

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Jamie Wendell
 

I have always carried my Apex HD (hypalon) 3.1-meter dinghy on the davits during crossing and have never had a problem (always stored the motor separately on the railing). I have custom davits that are very high, so if I get a wave high enough to hit or fill the dinghy I will have far greater concerns......?
Since the Apex is now nearly 8 years old, I have ordered a new (slightly larger) Highfield CL340. This time, I will be keeping the motor on the dinghy.
I have my fingers crossed it will all work out when I get it in May.
Jamie
Phantom A54 #44

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Mohammad,

1. We have a Highfield PVC RIB since 2014. Very happy with it.
2/3. We are an SM so a bit shorter.
4. Don't do it, one decent wave from the stern or quarter and the weight of the water that fills the dinghy hull will break something, maybe your dinghy, but maybe the davits too. We stow ours upside down on the aft cabin roof. We have an elasticated Sunbrella cover that was custom made to fit the dinghy and it is held down on the two rails with two wide webbing strap ratchet tie downs. We have not had an issue with that in  15,000 miles of pacific voyaging so far.
5. Ours is PVC and because it is covered a lot of the time we don't see an issue with UV, however, I regularly clean the PVC and protect it with 303 protectant..it still looks like new.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Peter Forbes
 

Dear Mohammad,

I have Highfiled PVC and it has lasted well for 5 years and still going strong. I think it is a 270 and takes a 6 HP Yamaha and fine inflated on the back deck for ocean crossings. It holds 4 adults and some kit. It is also light enough to hoist on my aft solar arch for shorter crossings. The Hypalon is, I was told, better but ours lasted for a circumnavigation and is still going well - I guess it will last 10 years. It has a metal lower hull and a front small stowage.

best wishes

Peter
Peter Forbes
Carango
AMEL 54 #035
La Rochelle
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 17 Feb 2020, at 00:54, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



Hi all;

 

We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:

 

  1. Opinions on the Highfield line of tenders. Good or bad.
  2. The CL310 seems to be a bit short and the bow may not sit firmly on the Davit when pulled up. The CL340 works great but will be wider the transom creating issues in tight docking quarters. What is the shortest length used by A54 owners with success?
  3. Can some one provide a measurement from the back of the mizzenmast to the mizzen traveler? I’d like to see which tender would fit on the aft sundeck.
  4. Opinions on carrying the tender deflated, pulled up and firmly lashed to the Davits during crossings? I’m concerned about following seas and waves hitting the tender and placing a substantial force on the Davits.
  5. PVC or Hypalon? There is about a 2000 Euro upcharge for Hypalon.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

tony wells
 

Hi Mohammad

I was originally seeking to buy a Highfield 310 Hypalon. However, I bought the 290 in PVC. 

The bow shape of the latest models has been ‘squared’ off, so I figured the useable space/seating of the 290 was equivalent to the previous 310 and I didn’t need any more volume than that, plus the 290 will fit even more comfortably on the coachroof. Incidentally, the lifting points (ie for davit use) seem exactly the same distance apart in the latest 290 and 310 models despite the different LOA of the models. 

The dealer convinced me the latest generation PVC from Highfield meant that the price difference for Hypalon was out of the question. And whilst Hypalon undoubtedly performs better in UV, I also read that PVC welding is superior to glued Hypalon seams? Finally, I was told that Hypalon marks more easily than PVC - note, all anecdotal info, others will have first hand experience! I would probably have still bought Hypalon if it hadn’t been something like 70% more expensive! 

The price of the latest model Highfield Classic 290 in light grey inc tax was only 2,700 Euros so it was an easy decision. Mecca Marine, Malta (Nichol on Whatsapp +35679732783). 

Hope useful,

Tony
A54 #102 Balthazar
Manoel Island, Malta

On 17 Feb 2020, at 00:54, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi all;

 

We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:

 

  1. Opinions on the Highfield line of tenders. Good or bad.
  2. The CL310 seems to be a bit short and the bow may not sit firmly on the Davit when pulled up. The CL340 works great but will be wider the transom creating issues in tight docking quarters. What is the shortest length used by A54 owners with success?
  3. Can some one provide a measurement from the back of the mizzenmast to the mizzen traveler? I’d like to see which tender would fit on the aft sundeck.
  4. Opinions on carrying the tender deflated, pulled up and firmly lashed to the Davits during crossings? I’m concerned about following seas and waves hitting the tender and placing a substantial force on the Davits.
  5. PVC or Hypalon? There is about a 2000 Euro upcharge for Hypalon.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Mohammed

1. No opinion

2. We have an AB 9.5 UL and it is sufficient. Has the big sausages and it’s dry and very quick. Good for long distance shopping if anchored remotely. 

3 IMO. The best ob is the 2 stroke Yamaha Enduro 15 HP. More torque, more top speed and being 2 str, even my female weakling can start it. Not so with my previous Honda vibrator 5 hp 4 str. 

4. Hypalon should be your only choice; the sun will kill the other one very quickly 

Come join us in the Pacific. :-)

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain 
SY Eleuthera, Marsden Cove, NZ


On 17/02/2020, at 3:33 PM, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

Although I don't have davits I can say that a 3.10 meter dingy fits nicely on the aft coach-roof assuming you cover the shower-hatch.. My guess is that 3.40 meter would be very tight.
Typically we keep it on the aft coach-roof and also deflated. Ours has a polyester bottom (a very simple PVC model from Plastimo). In the marina where we typically are we move the dingy a bit aft to clear the shower hatch. It then interferes with the mizzen-traveller, but in the marina there is obviously now issue with that. It also limits the opening of the aft locker in that position, we need to secure it to stay open.

PVC/Hypalon. From what I saw the price-difference is not that big. but is has been a while since I looked. If you want to keep the dingy for several years in the tropics and use it intensively, there is only the choice for Hypalon, unless you make/buy tube covers. Here in the Caribbean you see almost exclusively Hypalon apart from a poor guy on an Amel 54 ;-)

Cheers,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Arno Luijten
 

Although I don't have davits I can say that a 3.10 meter dingy fits nicely on the aft coach-roof assuming you cover the shower-hatch.. My guess is that 3.40 meter would be very tight.
Typically we keep it on the aft coach-roof and also deflated. Ours has a polyester bottom (a very simple PVC model from Plastimo). In the marina where we typically are we move the dingy a bit aft to clear the shower hatch. It then interferes with the mizzen-traveller, but in the marina there is obviously now issue with that. It also limits the opening of the aft locker in that position, we need to secure it to stay open.

PVC/Hypalon. From what I saw the price-difference is not that big. but is has been a while since I looked. If you want to keep the dingy for several years in the tropics and use it intensively, there is only the choice for Hypalon, unless you make/buy tube covers. Here in the Caribbean you see almost exclusively Hypalon apart from a poor guy on an Amel 54 ;-)

Cheers,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121

Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi all;

 

We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:

 

  1. Opinions on the Highfield line of tenders. Good or bad.
  2. The CL310 seems to be a bit short and the bow may not sit firmly on the Davit when pulled up. The CL340 works great but will be wider the transom creating issues in tight docking quarters. What is the shortest length used by A54 owners with success?
  3. Can some one provide a measurement from the back of the mizzenmast to the mizzen traveler? I’d like to see which tender would fit on the aft sundeck.
  4. Opinions on carrying the tender deflated, pulled up and firmly lashed to the Davits during crossings? I’m concerned about following seas and waves hitting the tender and placing a substantial force on the Davits.
  5. PVC or Hypalon? There is about a 2000 Euro upcharge for Hypalon.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

Re: New owner

Stephen Davis
 

Congratulations on your new boat Paul. We spent time with Jean Paul and Nicole in Bonaire, Panama, and Hawaii, and assuming Aramis is there previous boat, you have a very nice Amel. If you are still in Mexico, we expect to be there in late 2020, and hope to meet you then. 


Regards,

Steve and Liz Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii

Re: New owner

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Paul;

 

Welcome to the group. Wishing you many great adventures aboard your Amel.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Guenette via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 4:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New owner

 

Hello,

My name is Paul Guenette.

I am the proud and happy owner of Aramis, a Super Maramu 2000.

Aramis is hull number 444 and was built in 2004.

I am currently in the Sea of Cortez just south of Loreto, Mexico.

I am really grateful for this form and those contribute to it. I have gained a lot of valuable information from this form, thank you.

Best regards, Paul 

sv Aramis
SM 444
Sea of Cortez, Mexico

Re: Victron Quattro charger/inverter insta

michael winand
 

The power assist with the quattro can be used in a situation where the shore power is not a high enough amperes. 
Michael  nebo small 251


On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 12:31 am, James Cromie via Groups.Io
<jamescromie@...> wrote:
I have installed the Quattro on our Super Maramu #347.  Indeed, the transfer switch capability of the Quattro is currently not necessary for is because of the original transfer switch.  I have the Quattro installed after the original transfer switch. However, when/if that switch fails, we now have redundancy, which I consider an important aspect of any system on our boat.

Indeed, you're paying a bit more money for the Quattro,  but when is anything on a boat ever cheap!

Best,
James
Soteria SM2k 347
Vista mar



On Feb 6, 2020 07:09, "Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica" <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:
Hello,

I do not see the point to buy a quattro and bypass the AMEL shore power switch. If we would not have this switch it makes sense, but with an automatic switch installed? 

On my boat the multi is doing fine with the original AMEL setup. 

I split the AC panel, as described in my youtube video. Its no problem to move some breakers and carefully move the labels with them. One side / bus of AC pannel for inverter the other for shorepower/genset. It is also possible to split an AC bus. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 05:52 David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
I've been reading through the various threads as I prepare to install solar and LiFePo on my Amel 54 and start ordering the components. It's tremendously helpful so thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences.

I'm just deciding between the Victron Multiplus and Quattro inverter/charger and would like to know why the majority of you appear to go for the Quattro. So far the existing Amel AC source selection system which automatically prioritises generator over shore power seems to work okay. Is it just a question of neatness or are there other reasons please?
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Engine Mounts and Decoupling Vetus/Engine Block

michael winand
 

I have recently been through this process with a new installation. 
You may find that the c drive mounts have sagged from the original position  just a few mm as the c drive is in 2 sections. Your engine mounts have probably sagged as well. 
I would begin with the current drive mounts and then the engine mounts. I gave everything a really good clean up with the engine lifted. 

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 2:06 am, Alan "Woody" Wood
<woody@...> wrote:
Hi All

I've got a few jobs that require decoupling the Vetus from the engine block:

  • Changing engine mounts
  • Changing the Vetus rubber coupling parts
  • Replacing an oil seal/gasket on the flywheel bell housing (it's very leaky!). 

I've trawled the threads and got a fair idea of what to do for the most part (I think!), so thanks to all who contributed, but still have a few questions:

  • What engine mounts are used on SM 97's with a TMD 22 engine - there seems to be plenty of discussion on the subject but no definitive answer?
  • How exactly does the alignment tool (designed by Eric Freedman I think) work in practice? 
  • There is a bit of discussion about 'the trick' to avoid cutting the heads off the coupling bolts - how does this work in practice? 
Anything else you think I should consider while it's all apart? I have the added complication of a prop alternator fitted to the shaft by the way :/

Thanks in advance!

Woody
SM'97

Re: New owner

Dan Carlson
 

Welcome aboard Paul.  I think we crossed paths in Providencia.  I wish you all the best.

Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe currently in Cartagena Columbia (and heading east)

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 7:30 PM Paul Guenette via Groups.Io <paulguenette=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,

My name is Paul Guenette.

I am the proud and happy owner of Aramis, a Super Maramu 2000.

Aramis is hull number 444 and was built in 2004.

I am currently in the Sea of Cortez just south of Loreto, Mexico.

I am really grateful for this form and those contribute to it. I have gained a lot of valuable information from this form, thank you.

Best regards, Paul 

sv Aramis
SM 444
Sea of Cortez, Mexico

Re: New owner

Courtney Gorman
 

Congratulations Paul enjoy your new vessel 
Cheers 🥂 
Courtney 
svTrippin
54#101
MARIN


On Feb 15, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Paul Guenette via Groups.Io <paulguenette@...> wrote:

Hello,

My name is Paul Guenette.

I am the proud and happy owner of Aramis, a Super Maramu 2000.

Aramis is hull number 444 and was built in 2004.

I am currently in the Sea of Cortez just south of Loreto, Mexico.

I am really grateful for this form and those contribute to it. I have gained a lot of valuable information from this form, thank you.

Best regards, Paul 

sv Aramis
SM 444
Sea of Cortez, Mexico