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AmelYachtOwners] Pantaenius nsurance
eric freedman
HI, With your Pantaenius where do you live in the USA? If you are in the USA where do you keep your boat in hurricane season , and if not in the USA where are you located? Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Meury
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:13 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Novamar Insurance
amazing...as i was just in the process of talking with them. I have the same issue with pantan.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:17 PM Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Recommended solar panel brand
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Scott,
Why do you use parallel - Is it to do with partial shading? Mine are in series to minimise loss in the cable as I have no space for thicker cables.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
David, -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Are Amel boats quiet?
Germain Jean-Pierre
Mine has squeaks and creeks... it’s a boat!
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However comparing a Lagoon catamoron to an Amel is carp. :-).
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Are Amel boats quiet?
Ruslan Osmonov
Hi, could you please let me know if Amel boats, SM specifically, are quiet boats? I’ve chartered Lagoon catamaran last week and it was a noise generating machine at anchorage and during passages. They wrap standing rigging with plastic tubes and when wind blows above 10 knots those tubes start to vibrate and transfer noise to rigging and then hulls. When you are in a cabin it feels like airplane propeller right next to you. I was very surprised when I realized where the noise is coming from. Also during sailing and at rolly anchorages boat flexed and squeaked a lot. I was not expecting so much squeaking from a 2 year old boat. I know Amel’s are a different class of a boat and build quality, but would like to confirm from this group what to expect. I’ve read marketing materials that bulkheads are glasses to hull and this eliminates squeaking, but what about all the other parts (floorboards, cabinets, etc)? Could you let me know how quiet Amel’s are and what to expect? Thanks in advance for your help. --
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Re: Fuel tank cleaning
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Scott,
Thanks for that. Yes, I should have guessed the wires for the gauge! A for the possible slope I guess I could put a spirit level on and see what it averages out at.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Paul, -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Recommended solar panel brand
Porter McRoberts
Exactly correct Scott. Next power investment will be lithiums.
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Porter A54-152 Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com
On Feb 17, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?
Scott SV Tengah
Thanks for the input everyone. We literally have resigned to having Sleipner New Zealand look at it, when we get there in November!! But the fact that two of you have experienced failures on the short cables on the motor means it's worth looking at.
I have gone through the entire Sleipner troubleshooting guide, linked below, which should eliminate control circuit malfunctions. The problem still persists. Trouble-shooting Guide for DC Thrusters - Imtrawww.imtra.com › Products › SP_Troubleshooting_Guide_with_IPC -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Recommended solar panel brand
Scott SV Tengah
David,
I have experience with LG Neon2 320w panels and that's it. I have 3 of them wired IN PARALLEL on my aft custom arch and run through a Victron BlueSolar MPPT into Victron LiFePO4 batteries and have averaged around 200-225 amp hours a day of production. I'm pretty happy with them. I know I sound like a lithium preacher, but consider lithium if you don't have it. I believe it's Porter McRoberts who has a similar solar setup as me but outputs far less because his AGM(?) batteries can't take full charging current at high states of charge. And when you add in 25-30% charging inefficiency for lead vs. 2-3% for lifepo4, my 960w array would be the equivalent to a 720w array if I had AGM/Gel/Flooded Lead. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: turning direction of prop and thread pitch - Santorin
Daniel Frey
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Re: Fuel tank cleaning
Scott SV Tengah
Paul,
Pretty sure fuel outlet is fore as that's where the Racors are. The forward hatch wires are for the electronic fuel gauge in the cockpit fuel locker. There's bit of a baffle. Just open up the hatches and all will be obvious. It's pretty easy to open. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Mohammad,
1) I have a Highfield CL310 HYP as does Dean. The transom "lip" where the tubes are glued was bent when it arrived. Probably bad packaging. This is not the first time I have heard of this - Highfield fixed it under warranty after a bit of complaining. 2) The CL310 will fit with a bit of modification. Dean described the eye he mounted in the bow locker and I did the same. You will also need to mount some eyes, facing inwards, on the triangular transom supports as far forward as you can. Then place a metal ring halfway between the rings using rope lashing. It fits fine. I have a Suzuki 20AS which does not rotate 90 degrees so it takes a bit of positioning to have it all fit. I then use a line through the built in "eyes" on the dinghy stern floor up to the ring where the davit lines/wires come out of, to secure the dinghy. Don't rely on the lifting wires to hold up the dinghy once underway. While you're at it, change the davit wires to 12 strand dyneema. You can do it with very little modification - Simpson wanted 4000GBP for a "dyneema conversion kit" and it's simply unnecessary. You can do it yourself if you know how to splice 12 strand dyneema or pay a rigger 100euros. For the bow, I secure the dinghy using a high quality stainless/aluminum ratchet with one end attached to the eye at the end of the davit arm and the other to a loop secured to the "armpit" of the davits. The reason why I did not go for the CL340 is two fold: a) I put the dinghy on the aft deck and the outboard in the lazarette on big passages. Coming around Cape Hatteras and even crossing the Med in fall, I have seen some waves from astern that may have swamped a hanging dinghy. I have also had the dinghy come slightly loose while sailing and while the wasn't a big deal on a day sail or short overnighter, I wouldn't want to deal with it in the middle of an Indian Ocean gale, far offshore. With the CL310 I can position the dinghy upside down on the aft deck and have it NOT protrude into the cockpit nor have it interfere with the mizzen track. It barely fits. I don't think the CL340 will fit unless you put it diagonally. b) When it's just me and the misses doing a beach landing, with swell, we are at our limit carrying the CL310 with a 20hp engine. I tried to drag my friend's CL340 up a beach with him (he's 100kg and 195cm tall) and we struggled. In the Med, dinghy docks were aplenty. Less so in some parts of the Caribbean and probably even less so in the South Pacific. 5) I went with Hypalon. I believe I paid 3700 euros total for my CL310 HYP. Not sure where you are but I bought it from a dealer in Slovenia VAT-free. Hypalon was not much more in our case and the cost of chaps was more than the upcharge for hypalon. In the tropics, it was a no brainer for me. I have a PVC backup rollup dinghy and it's faring far worse. Hope this helps. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Mohammad, yes, I see that now.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:31 PM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Joerg;
Thanks for the photos. Definitely a nice improvement to the Davits. The Davits on the 55 are closer spaced than the 54 and I believe are parallel and not at an angle like the 54. I think you could have carried either the 310 or the 340. I think the 310 on the 54 is problematic.
A few questions, if you don’t mind;
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:32 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Hi Mohammad, I have the CL 340 in Hypalon and it's in good shape after 4 seasons in the Med. The French dealer in La Rochelle convinced me that Hypalon is the way to go for the Med/Caribbean. I have the Amel provided davits on the 55
but I have some custom brackets which fixate the dinghy very well - no sliding or other movement whatsoever. see pics. For passages, I put on a cover to prevent a wave from filling the dinghy and I've not had any problems. For offshore passages with a chance
of serious gales, like a Transatlantic West to East, however, I would put the dinghy on the aft deck and the engine in the aft locker. For one, I don't think I could deploy a drogue with the dinghy hanging from the davits.
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Bill;
I know it appear that the outboard is reversed on the transom. But it is not. Take another look.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:58 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Joerg,
That is an ingenious modification to the Simpson Davits. However, I noticed that the outboard motor is actually "inboard." Can you tell me the model and HP of this motor? Also, I assume that to raise the dinghy and outboard on the davits, you first have to reverse the outboard on the dinghy transom?
Bill
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:31 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Joerg, That is an ingenious modification to the Simpson Davits. However, I noticed that the outboard motor is actually "inboard." Can you tell me the model and HP of this motor? Also, I assume that to raise the dinghy and outboard on the davits, you first have to reverse the outboard on the dinghy transom? Bill
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:31 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Hi Mohammad, I have the CL 340 in Hypalon and it's in good shape after 4 seasons in the Med. The French dealer in La Rochelle convinced me that Hypalon is the way to go for the Med/Caribbean. I have the Amel provided davits on the 55 but I have some custom brackets which fixate the dinghy very well - no sliding or other movement whatsoever. see pics. For passages, I put on a cover to prevent a wave from filling the dinghy and I've not had any problems. For offshore passages with a chance of serious gales, like a Transatlantic West to East, however, I would put the dinghy on the aft deck and the engine in the aft locker. For one, I don't think I could deploy a drogue with the dinghy hanging from the davits.
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Joerg Esdorn
Hi Mohammad, I have the CL 340 in Hypalon and it's in good shape after 4 seasons in the Med. The French dealer in La Rochelle convinced me that Hypalon is the way to go for the Med/Caribbean. I have the Amel provided davits on the 55 but I have some custom brackets which fixate the dinghy very well - no sliding or other movement whatsoever. see pics. For passages, I put on a cover to prevent a wave from filling the dinghy and I've not had any problems. For offshore passages with a chance of serious gales, like a Transatlantic West to East, however, I would put the dinghy on the aft deck and the engine in the aft locker. For one, I don't think I could deploy a drogue with the dinghy hanging from the davits.
I hope this helps. Joerg Esdorn A55 Kincsem
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Fuel tank cleaning
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi all,
I have noticed that there is sludge sticking to the bottom of the fuel dip stick. After enquiring about getting the tank cleaned I have some questions:
Are there baffles in the tank that may restrict access to the bottom of the tank in places? I notice that there are two inspection hatches, of which the forward has an electrical cable connected to a terminal on top of it. I would also like to know what that is for.
It was also suggested to me that the tank may be sloping downwards towards the fore so the forward part may accumulate more sludge than what my dip stick may be indicating. Is this the case?
Which leads to … where is the fuel outlet – fore or aft?
My appreciations in advance for any answers!
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
John Clanton <jclanton@...>
Mohammad,
We have had the 340 for two seasons and have been happy with it.
The one drawback when Med mooring is that the gangway can’t be deployed when the tender is on the davits. When Med mooring, we typically tie up leaving enough room between the stern and the quay to lower the dinghy to the water, then are able to extend the gangway.
John W. Clanton S/V Devereux Antibes, France
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
I have experimented with several tenders (5 in total over 2 years) including 2 HIGHFIELDS and finally settled on a OCT (Offshore Cruising Tender – made in NEW ZEALAND) 350. Extremely happy with this tender. Very light (48 kg) – lighter than the HIGHFIELD(s); high freeboard – no water coming in at all. Besides fitting on the sundeck for limited time when making a really large crossing I have it in the davits. My main considerations were: A) No water coming in or wet butt when sitting on the side; B) Comfortable ride; C) Easy to handle when beached during low tide etc.
I might see you this week for coffee and we can discuss in detail.
Best Regards Teun February 17, 2020 07:46:11
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On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 16:55 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Hi all;
We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
Mohammad Shirloo
Thanks Wolfgang. The pictures are very helpful.
What is the spacing between your Davits? On our factory installed Davits the lifting points are 210cm apart and I believe the bow of the CL310 will barely catch the Davit.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 6:49 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing
I have the Highfield 310 in Hypalon and Yamaha 15 HP 2-stroke which is far better than my old Zodiac Fastroller 320.
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