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Re: Rub Rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

Karen , Maud sent me a drawing of the cross section ,but just looked at it, and its too crude ,not to scale. Perhaps if you pulled up the end of yours a couple inches and take a photo. If someone had a thin section ,that would be the best. Maybe a pencil tracing. Right now we need over 500 ft. and that could easily go to 1000 ft., I am sure.
Pat,
SM #123



-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Hi Mark,

Pending pricing detail confirmation, we are very interested in the possibility of joining the rub rail order and shipment to the US East Coast!

Has anyone researched having a custom extrusion made for the rub rails locally? In quantity it should not be expensive.

Could someone who has the rub rail sectional drawing from Amel email it to me?

Bill will explore the custom extrusion possibility!

Thanks!

Karen Smith
s/v Harmonie SM#160






Re: Rub Rail insert

Karen Smith
 

Hi Mark,

Pending pricing detail confirmation, we are very interested in the possibility of joining the rub rail order and shipment to the US East Coast!

Has anyone researched having a custom extrusion made for the rub rails locally? In quantity it should not be expensive.

Could someone who has the rub rail sectional drawing from Amel email it to me?

Bill will explore the custom extrusion possibility!

Thanks!

Karen Smith
s/v Harmonie SM#160

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C Drive Photos

Mitchell Petersen
 

Hi Craig,
I'm currently attempting to remove and replace the bearings in the lower c drive however I'm having trouble getting the 'trumpet' off. I have the same c drive as you and have removed the upper unit by removing the four bolts which connect the square aluminum upper unit with the trumpet, was I supposed to do this? I have also loosened the hose clamps on the large rubber boots. Does the large rubber boots connecting the trumpet with the hull also come off with the upper unit?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mitchell
Santorini No33

Re: Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Aty and Mohammad,

I would recommend talking to Alex Ramseyer about his setup with an Highfield. It is long enough that he can fit it very securely under the Simpsons davits with the outboard on. I don’t know if it fits on the roof, though. But if it does, it would be a very good dinghy (as far as dimensions for a 54 is concerned) imho.

4. I’ve seen 50/60ft yachts fitted with Simpsons davits carrying console dinghies with 20hp 4stroke outboards crossing is he Pacific. If the dinghy tubes are well pressed against the davits, the freeboard is ample. I wouldn’t do that it myself but then I’m very risk averse.

Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Hiva Oa, French Polynesia 


On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 06:20, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

I have experimented with several tenders (5 in total over 2 years) including 2 HIGHFIELDS and finally settled on a OCT (Offshore Cruising Tender – made in NEW ZEALAND) 350. Extremely happy with this tender. Very light (48 kg) – lighter than the HIGHFIELD(s); high freeboard – no water coming in at all. Besides fitting on the sundeck for limited time when making a really large crossing I have it in the davits. My main considerations were: A) No water coming in or wet butt when sitting on the side; B) Comfortable ride; C) Easy to handle when beached during low tide etc.

 

I might see you this week for coffee and we can discuss in detail.

 

Best Regards Teun

February 17, 2020 07:46:11

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 16:55
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Carrying Tender on Davits while crossing

 

Hi all;

 

We are in the process of selecting a new tender. We are considering the Highfield CL310 or CL340. I would appreciate input on the following issues:

 

  1. Opinions on the Highfield line of tenders. Good or bad.
  2. The CL310 seems to be a bit short and the bow may not sit firmly on the Davit when pulled up. The CL340 works great but will be wider the transom creating issues in tight docking quarters. What is the shortest length used by A54 owners with success?
  3. Can some one provide a measurement from the back of the mizzenmast to the mizzen traveler? I’d like to see which tender would fit on the aft sundeck.
  4. Opinions on carrying the tender deflated, pulled up and firmly lashed to the Davits during crossings? I’m concerned about following seas and waves hitting the tender and placing a substantial force on the Davits.
  5. PVC or Hypalon? There is about a 2000 Euro upcharge for Hypalon.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

Re: Rub Rail insert

Stefan Deerberg
 

Hi Charles!

It will be approx 1.5 x 1.0 x 0.8 meter and the weight about 100kg.

My sister she is living in Charlotte, so I could ask her to pic up the stuff in your place. Our plan is, to sail up north in summer, so another possibility could be to pic it up by boat, if there is a suitable place to store it for a while?

Cheers 

Stefan 
from cold old Germany / Hamburg 

Stefan Deerberg 

CEO Deerberg GmbH 
Unternehmer/ Entrepreneur

Lilienthalstraße 1
21335 Lüneburg
Germany

Mobil: +49 172 7757444
stefan.deerberg@...
www.deerberg.de



Am 26.02.2020 um 17:20 schrieb Charles Bell <CruisingJupiter@...>:

Hello Stefan,

I was planning to bring the container into Annapolis, MD or the port of Baltimore.

I have a location to receive the shipment, breakbulk, and reship or allow pickup.

Do you know the amount of space your parts might need in cubic meters?

Charles
SV Jupiter
Mango #29

Re: Rub Rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

Charles, If you end up doing this shipment, I would like to add a stern bumper as well,probably could fit nicely between the inside of the rolled up inserts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Charle Bell <shipbldr2000@...>
To: eric <kimberlite@...>
Cc: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Welcome aboard Eric!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, Mark. and Eric. We will continue waiting a couple of days to see who else wants to join.
 
Is anyone else jumping in?

Charles
SV Jupiter
Mango #29




On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:12 PM eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:
I would be interested for the inserts for my Sm200 #376.
Fair Wind,Eric
Kimberlite

On February 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM Charle Bell <shipbldr2000@...> wrote:

Welcome aboard Mark!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, and Mark. Let's wait a couple of days to see who else wants to join us. 
 
In previous less than container shipments I have done, space was about $100-200/CBM (Cubis Meter) +documentation ($600-1000) +tariffs

Is anyone else jumping in?

 

Re: Rub Rail insert

Gary Silver
 

Dear All:

I wasn't able to locate my waybill with a weight, but the invoice from Maud was as follows:
32 metres   3459 Liston De Coque Ivoire SM Ref P 000470 / Ivory Rubber scupper Material for Super Maramu   24,95 EURO unit price   Amount without Taxes    798  EURO

Transport and packaging   1,465 EURO
Insurance 12.00 EURO

Having hefted these two sections of 16 meters each I would estimate their weight at 70-90 lbs each. 

Sorry I didn't evidently keep the waybill. 

Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel Super Maramu 2000  Hull # 335
Puerto Dell Rey Marina, Puerto Rico

Re: Rub Rail insert

Charles Bell
 

Welcome aboard Eric!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, Mark. and Eric. We will continue waiting a couple of days to see who else wants to join.
 
Is anyone else jumping in?

Charles
SV Jupiter
Mango #29




On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:12 PM eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:
I would be interested for the inserts for my Sm200 #376.
Fair Wind,Eric
Kimberlite

On February 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM Charle Bell <shipbldr2000@...> wrote:

Welcome aboard Mark!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, and Mark. Let's wait a couple of days to see who else wants to join us. 
 
In previous less than container shipments I have done, space was about $100-200/CBM (Cubis Meter) +documentation ($600-1000) +tariffs

Is anyone else jumping in?

 

Re: Rub Rail insert

eric freedman
 

I would be interested for the inserts for my Sm200 #376.
Fair Wind,Eric
Kimberlite

On February 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM Charle Bell <shipbldr2000@...> wrote:

Welcome aboard Mark!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, and Mark. Let's wait a couple of days to see who else wants to join us. 
 
In previous less than container shipments I have done, space was about $100-200/CBM (Cubis Meter) +documentation ($600-1000) +tariffs

Is anyone else jumping in?

 

Re: Bottom paint removal problem

eric freedman
 

Hi Mark,
After 16 years I had the bottom of Kimberlite cleaned down to the gelcoat. I did not want to use any form of blasting. I had the yard use a chemical stripper available at Home depot to remove paint down to the gelcoat. It took time and multiple applications but it worked and the bottom came up quite clean. I think the paint we removed weighed somewhere between 3 and 400 pounds and it was ablative paint..
I then had the yard apply 4 coats of interprotect . They then applied a hard epoxy blue paint and then 2 coats of black ablative paint. worked great . We hauled this year after 2 years and the bottom was beautiful. I would suggest using the chemical stripper when it is warm as it is a chemical process.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite

On February 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I have owned my Super Maramu since she was launched in 2003.  Amel applied a hard bottom paint before launch in 2003 but since then I have only used ablative paint.  The layer is now thick and a bit uneven.  Having carefully examined the words of caution on the Amel owners group, particularly those of Joel Potter, I have looked in vain for a soda blaster to remove all the old bottom paint. I just cannot find one in Rhode Island.  The contractor recommended by my Rhode Island marina uses glass and is apparently very experienced with blasting boat bottoms. 

Last week I contacted the large Hinckley repair yard in Portsmouth, RI and it turns out that they do not have access to soda blasting either and use the same glass blasting contractor used by the full service marina where Sabbatical III is stored.  Hinckley recommends the glass blasting followed by 5 coats of epoxy (the 5 coats is their rule for European boats).  My yard has suggested 3 coats of epoxy as a water barrier.
I had been hoping for soda blasting plus a single coat of epoxy as a primer, on the assumption that the barrier coat under the gel coat would remain intact.  I did not expect that it would not be possible to find a soda blasting contractor in Rhode Island (or nearby Massachusetts) who works on boat hulls.
 
Any suggestions for me?  I feel stuck and am inclined to use glass blasting following by 3 or more coats of epoxy as a barrier coat.
 
Mark Pitt
“Sabbatical III”, SM#419, Wickford, Rhode Island, USA
 

 

Re: Headsets #solution

Matt Salatino
 

We started out with Eartecs. They work at a different frequency, and actually found the sound quality and range a bit better than Sena. But ours were older, and had a belt pack connected to the headphones. A bit more cumbersome, and Cindy dropped one overboard when it fell off her skimpy swim suit..... All around, we like the Sena’s better. The Sena Expand costs a bit less, and the boom mic is shorter, making it a bit less prone to knocking into things. Works great on the bow, up the mast, during docking, and scouting an anchor spot in the dinghy (close by).

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Kent, it sounds like the Sena is a better option then.  I never looked at Sena when I bought my Eartec since I had experience with them before and my friend had used them for over a year without a problem.  Cheers. Joerg 

joerg esdorn
A55 # 53 Kincsem
Vigo, Spain

Re: Rub Rail insert

Charles Bell
 

Hello Stefan,

I was planning to bring the container into Annapolis, MD or the port of Baltimore.

I have a location to receive the shipment, breakbulk, and reship or allow pickup.

Do you know the amount of space your parts might need in cubic meters?

Charles
SV Jupiter
Mango #29

Re: A55: fresh water pump system : Beam IV on passage from Bonaire towards Santa Marta / Carthagena

Joerg Esdorn
 

Sorry, Stuart.  Pumping up the tank fixed the problem of continuous running for me.  Stupid question, sorry: Do you have water in the tank?  Cheers. Joerg 

Re: Headsets #solution

Joerg Esdorn
 

Kent, it sounds like the Sena is a better option then.  I never looked at Sena when I bought my Eartec since I had experience with them before and my friend had used them for over a year without a problem.  Cheers. Joerg 

joerg esdorn
A55 # 53 Kincsem
Vigo, Spain

Re: Bottom paint removal problem

Doug Smith
 

Yes, Osprey did mine as well, but I had them use sand blasting on the metal keel. They use a tent to keep containment of the sand, soda and paint that is removed.  Like Mark, I did the coating and repainting myself.  For the keel, Osprey finished the sand blasting and stepped back, and I immediately did a prep wipe down of the metal and coated the keel with the interlux 2000 epoxy.  Within minutes is key.  You can coat the whole keel with two people in under 30 minutes with rollers and brushes.  Then once it is coated, you do it again.  I ended up with 4 coats of interlux and the keel lasted 10 years with only an occasional rust break through the coating.

 

This is what Osprey does, and they work on super big boats.  They are more than willing to let you do part of the work, and helpful with advice if you have questions.

 

Doug Smith

S/V Aventura, Amel 54-113

Currently Gibraltar, Queensway Quay Marina

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:07 AM
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem

 

Pat,

I did not have them blast the keel down to bare metal.  However, they did have to epoxy coat the keel right after blasting since there were some spots where the iron was already exposed before soda blasting and the soda blasting exposed a few more spots.  Thus my comment to "remind" whoever does the soda blasting that it is an iron keel so that they are ready to apply epoxy paint immediately after blasting.  The Iron starts to rust the instant it is exposed.  I ended up doing some more extensive grinding/sanding and epoxy coating to iron keel after their work was done.  Working on the bottom of the keel is NOT fun.  In hindsight, I probably should have just had them do it but I am cheap and a bit pigheaded about these things sometimes.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Rub Rail insert

Stefan Deerberg
 

Hi together!

I have some stuff from Germany ( sails, outboard engine etc.) 
I could bring it to FRANCE. Europe is a small country 😊
What would be the final destination of the Container?
Our boat is in Martinique or. Grenada, depends of the time.

All the best 

Stefan 
Not yet an owner of SM
but in preparation 



Stefan Deerberg 

CEO Deerberg GmbH 
Unternehmer/ Entrepreneur

Lilienthalstraße 1
21335 Lüneburg
Germany

Mobil: +49 172 7757444
stefan.deerberg@...
www.deerberg.de


Re: Bottom paint removal problem

Aras
 

Yes I feel the same way.  Never again shall I attempt to do my bottom.  I tried using coppercoat with dismal success.  Worse was the lac of support.  Needless to say, it's time to redo my bottom and I will gladly pay to have it done; one collapsed lung lung enough for me.

Aras
1988 Sharki #163

Re: Bottom paint removal problem

Mark McGovern
 

Pat,

I did not have them blast the keel down to bare metal.  However, they did have to epoxy coat the keel right after blasting since there were some spots where the iron was already exposed before soda blasting and the soda blasting exposed a few more spots.  Thus my comment to "remind" whoever does the soda blasting that it is an iron keel so that they are ready to apply epoxy paint immediately after blasting.  The Iron starts to rust the instant it is exposed.  I ended up doing some more extensive grinding/sanding and epoxy coating to iron keel after their work was done.  Working on the bottom of the keel is NOT fun.  In hindsight, I probably should have just had them do it but I am cheap and a bit pigheaded about these things sometimes.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Rub Rail insert

Charles Bell
 

Welcome aboard Mark!

OK, we have Charles (me), Patrick, and Mark. Let's wait a couple of days to see who else wants to join us. 
 
In previous less than container shipments I have done, space was about $100-200/CBM (Cubis Meter) +documentation ($600-1000) +tariffs

Is anyone else jumping in?

Re: Rub Rail insert

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Unless its Fred

Danny

On 26 February 2020 at 10:41 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Danny, I had not read your previous post about carrying davits and checking them in as baggage. This is good news ,its been many yrs. since I tried to check thru a large object. So I will just roll the two rub rails into the airport, and balance the bumper on my head. Bobs your uncle!
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

You should see the size of boxes that land in NZ as baggage from China, and go out as baggage for departing Chinese. That's not picking on the Chinese, its just a statement of fact.
Regards
Danny
On 26 February 2020 at 09:32 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Danny, That is just what I suggested to Diane this morning when I realized they are too big to fit a suitcase. Just roll them in,with a rope handle. Can you still check something thru the size of a tire? Its been years since we used to transport large stuff,I thought there may be new restrictions ,since they have cracked down on baggage in recent yrs. 
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Hi Gary and Pat,
You don't have to put your baggage in suitcases. Just wrap it well and if necessary for handling create a handle. Saves weight too. How many surf boards have you seen as baggage. I've seen quite a few
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 26 February 2020 at 07:35 "Gary Silver via Groups.Io" <garysilver@...> wrote:

Pat,  I'll rummage through my paperwork and see if I can find the way-bill for the scupper shipment and see if it has a weight (standby).  My guess is it would take two large suitcases for the scupper (one for each side) but the weight would be less without the pallet.  

Stand-by for news.