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Re: More Options for Rub Rail Inserts

Patrick McAneny
 

Karen, I certainly want to replace my rub rail , having it produced and available in the US. without shipping from France ,would make it much cheaper and more available for boats located on this side of the pond , keep me posted .
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Mar 3, 2020 4:24 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] More Options for Rub Rail Inserts

Hey group,
 
We have done a little digging into the possibility of US based production options for the rub rail inserts. Seems a good option instead of shipping relatively inexpensive, yet bulky and heavy material across the ocean.

Companies doing custom, short-run rubber extrusions are pretty common in the industry. We contacted a local manufacturer who specializes in things like rub rails for inflatable boats to see if they could produce the Amel rub rail insert in low quantity and at reasonable cost. 
 
The basic answer is, yes they can. They have seen a dimensioned drawing of the insert, and confirmed that they can make it without technical difficulty. It would be made of EDPM, the premier rubber formulation for UV exposure. Not sure about color yet.
 
There isn’t enough information yet to set a hard price, but it looks like the MAXIMUM cost would be $800 per boat, and it could be as little as half that, plus UPS domestic ground shipping.
 
The process would look like this:  If we get enough interest, I’ll trim a bit off my insert and give to the engineers so they can finalize the design of an extrusion die.  They then run off a prototype piece and I would test it for fit on my boat.  If all is good, a 50% deposit would hold a place in the production run.
 
If there is sufficient interest, we could have material in hand in 3 weeks.
 
At this point we have gone as far as we can go without having a read if there is enough interest in going further, so if this is something you’d want to participate in, or if you just have questions, drop an e-mail to greatketch@...

Karen Smith,
Bill Kinney
SM Harmonie #160
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: How to clean the hull from diesel soot

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Hi all,

thank you for your replies!
We didnt have this problem in Europé/Caribbean but in Pacific it started. Last year in NZ we renovated the injectors on both engines since we thought that might help. Well we’re still stuck with the problem...

--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

Teun BAAS
 

Evening Penny & Bob,

 

Just called WALLACE International as you suggested.

 

Asked for Bob and after being screened by 2 people  who were clearly not very keen to let me talk to Bob 😊until I mentioned your names and then I was transferred immediately to Bob; like the Red Sea parted for Moses.

 

Bob agreed completely that what I was looking for was NO problem and was surprised that Ryan KNAGGS (who works in the same building as he does) informed me otherwise.

 

Problem solved & thanks for the help in getting my AMEL parts into AUSTRALIA.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 20:01:14

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 19:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Penny & Bob,

 

Greatly appreciate your help. I will try to get in touch with Bob WALLACE as my exchange with:

 

Ryan Knaggs

 

Wallace International

130 Riverside Place

Morningside QLD 4170

PO BOX 678 Bulimba QLD 4171

Ph: +61 7 3212 7233

 

was fruitless. I am not sure but believe that Ian MACKENZIE (the broker in my marina/yard who referred me to WALLACE International) told me that Bob retired recently?

 

Completely agree with your “You can do free clearance for personal  boat in transit, pleasure craft.

 

Will let you know how it worked out. Thanks again for the help.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 19:41:02

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of PENELOPE CONNOR via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 17:26
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Teun,

I have just got back online after crossing and see you are wanting to get some bits for boat in transit in Queensland.

Ask to speak to “Bob Wallace” at Wallace International in Bris. If he does not look after you let me know, I will call him!  Bob knows all about imports into QLD for everything, he started the business in the 70’s. You can do free clearance for personal  boat in transit, pleasure craft.

Best Regards 

 

Barry and Penny Connor

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54. #17

Le MARIN anchorage. Martinique 

 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 13:55, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:



Hi Alan,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Agree that NEW CALEDONIA is NO problem at all. I sailed for about 18 months around NC (still own a mooring there 😊); during 2018 had a bunch of AMEL parts come in and even imported a complete new VOLVO D3 engine w/o the slightest problem. Even in VANUATU things went flawless when I imported parts from USA, all new sails from TURKEY as well as the OCTender from NEW ZEALAND, But, so far, AUSTRALIA is a complete different experience.

 

The frustrating part is that the AUSTRALIAN authorities (ABF) agree with the YACHT IN TRANSIT concept but I have yet to find a custom broker experienced with this procedure.

 

On another topic, but still related, if any foreign owned boat considers selling or even have the boat listed for sale (on the internet or overseas) when calling or sailing in AUSTRALIAN waters you will have to pay the import duty REGARDLESS if the boat will ultimately be sold to another non AUSTRALIAN and/or leaves AUSTRALIAN waters; and AUSTRALIA reinforces this vigorously and have officers checking websites for any boats for sale. ABF will ask you several times, when they come on board during clearance, if you plan to sell the vessel; this is also one of the reasons they want you to report the position of the boat every 3 months. I had heard this from other sailors in NEW CAL as well as in VANUATU and although I have no intention of selling AMELIT it was reconfirmed when a fellow A54 owner intended to sail to AUSTRALIA and sell his A54. We were planning to buddy boat to AUSTRALIA until I suggested him to verify this information; he did and then changed his destination to NEW ZEALAND.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 10:50:04

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 22:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Teun,

I can't help you with Customs Broker in Brisbane, but I would think that pretty much any customs broker would be able to do it for you.

Just FYI, in New Caledonia, when you arrive and  clear customs (they never come to the boat) in Port Moselle, you complete the customs declaration and the Capitainnerie fax off the form to Customs and if you don't hear anything within a few hours then you are cleared in. If you want to get your imported items for the boat in duty and tax free, you need to ask the Capitainnerie to ask customs to send back an IFT number...they never send it without being asked...and often you need to ask a few times.....basically its the customs form you filled in with their reference number on it. Presenting that form to Fedex, DHL or whoever will ensure you don't pay tax or duty on items imported for the yacht in transit.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Penny & Bob,

 

Greatly appreciate your help. I will try to get in touch with Bob WALLACE as my exchange with:

 

Ryan Knaggs

 

Wallace International

130 Riverside Place

Morningside QLD 4170

PO BOX 678 Bulimba QLD 4171

Ph: +61 7 3212 7233

 

was fruitless. I am not sure but believe that Ian MACKENZIE (the broker in my marina/yard who referred me to WALLACE International) told me that Bob retired recently?

 

Completely agree with your “You can do free clearance for personal  boat in transit, pleasure craft.

 

Will let you know how it worked out. Thanks again for the help.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 19:41:02

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of PENELOPE CONNOR via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 17:26
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Teun,

I have just got back online after crossing and see you are wanting to get some bits for boat in transit in Queensland.

Ask to speak to “Bob Wallace” at Wallace International in Bris. If he does not look after you let me know, I will call him!  Bob knows all about imports into QLD for everything, he started the business in the 70’s. You can do free clearance for personal  boat in transit, pleasure craft.

Best Regards 

 

Barry and Penny Connor

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54. #17

Le MARIN anchorage. Martinique 

 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 13:55, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:



Hi Alan,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Agree that NEW CALEDONIA is NO problem at all. I sailed for about 18 months around NC (still own a mooring there 😊); during 2018 had a bunch of AMEL parts come in and even imported a complete new VOLVO D3 engine w/o the slightest problem. Even in VANUATU things went flawless when I imported parts from USA, all new sails from TURKEY as well as the OCTender from NEW ZEALAND, But, so far, AUSTRALIA is a complete different experience.

 

The frustrating part is that the AUSTRALIAN authorities (ABF) agree with the YACHT IN TRANSIT concept but I have yet to find a custom broker experienced with this procedure.

 

On another topic, but still related, if any foreign owned boat considers selling or even have the boat listed for sale (on the internet or overseas) when calling or sailing in AUSTRALIAN waters you will have to pay the import duty REGARDLESS if the boat will ultimately be sold to another non AUSTRALIAN and/or leaves AUSTRALIAN waters; and AUSTRALIA reinforces this vigorously and have officers checking websites for any boats for sale. ABF will ask you several times, when they come on board during clearance, if you plan to sell the vessel; this is also one of the reasons they want you to report the position of the boat every 3 months. I had heard this from other sailors in NEW CAL as well as in VANUATU and although I have no intention of selling AMELIT it was reconfirmed when a fellow A54 owner intended to sail to AUSTRALIA and sell his A54. We were planning to buddy boat to AUSTRALIA until I suggested him to verify this information; he did and then changed his destination to NEW ZEALAND.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 10:50:04

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 22:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Teun,

I can't help you with Customs Broker in Brisbane, but I would think that pretty much any customs broker would be able to do it for you.

Just FYI, in New Caledonia, when you arrive and  clear customs (they never come to the boat) in Port Moselle, you complete the customs declaration and the Capitainnerie fax off the form to Customs and if you don't hear anything within a few hours then you are cleared in. If you want to get your imported items for the boat in duty and tax free, you need to ask the Capitainnerie to ask customs to send back an IFT number...they never send it without being asked...and often you need to ask a few times.....basically its the customs form you filled in with their reference number on it. Presenting that form to Fedex, DHL or whoever will ensure you don't pay tax or duty on items imported for the yacht in transit.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Bottom paint removal problem

eric freedman
 

Hi Pat,

I do not remember the name. I will try to get the name for you tomorrow.

It took 2 yard workers 4 days to strip and sand.

It is best applied in a warm environment as it is a chemical reaction.

I did mine in July. They used cheap brushes and scrapers for the majority of the work and then putty knives when they got close to the gel coat. It takes multiple applications and waiting time for this stripper to work.

They then used a sander to complete the job. It wasn’t difficult just time consuming.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 6:30 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem

 

Eric, I need to remove 20 some years of paint. Do you remember the name of the product you bought from Home Depot ? Was it meant to be used on fiberglass? Have any idea as to the man hours to strip your boat. Thinking I may hire a helper or two and tackle it myself.

Thanks,

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>; Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem

Hi Mark,
After 16 years I had the bottom of Kimberlite cleaned down to the gelcoat. I did not want to use any form of blasting. I had the yard use a chemical stripper available at Home depot to remove paint down to the gelcoat. It took time and multiple applications but it worked and the bottom came up quite clean. I think the paint we removed weighed somewhere between 3 and 400 pounds and it was ablative paint..
I then had the yard apply 4 coats of interprotect . They then applied a hard epoxy blue paint and then 2 coats of black ablative paint. worked great . We hauled this year after 2 years and the bottom was beautiful. I would suggest using the chemical stripper when it is warm as it is a chemical process.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


On February 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I have owned my Super Maramu since she was launched in 2003.  Amel applied a hard bottom paint before launch in 2003 but since then I have only used ablative paint.  The layer is now thick and a bit uneven.  Having carefully examined the words of caution on the Amel owners group, particularly those of Joel Potter, I have looked in vain for a soda blaster to remove all the old bottom paint. I just cannot find one in Rhode Island.  The contractor recommended by my Rhode Island marina uses glass and is apparently very experienced with blasting boat bottoms. 

Last week I contacted the large Hinckley repair yard in Portsmouth, RI and it turns out that they do not have access to soda blasting either and use the same glass blasting contractor used by the full service marina where Sabbatical III is stored.  Hinckley recommends the glass blasting followed by 5 coats of epoxy (the 5 coats is their rule for European boats).  My yard has suggested 3 coats of epoxy as a water barrier.

I had been hoping for soda blasting plus a single coat of epoxy as a primer, on the assumption that the barrier coat under the gel coat would remain intact.  I did not expect that it would not be possible to find a soda blasting contractor in Rhode Island (or nearby Massachusetts) who works on boat hulls.

 

Any suggestions for me?  I feel stuck and am inclined to use glass blasting following by 3 or more coats of epoxy as a barrier coat.

 

Mark Pitt

“Sabbatical III”, SM#419, Wickford, Rhode Island, USA

 


 


Re: tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

PENELOPE CONNOR
 

Hi Teun,
I have just got back online after crossing and see you are wanting to get some bits for boat in transit in Queensland.
Ask to speak to “Bob Wallace” at Wallace International in Bris. If he does not look after you let me know, I will call him!  Bob knows all about imports into QLD for everything, he started the business in the 70’s. You can do free clearance for personal  boat in transit, pleasure craft.
Best Regards 

Barry and Penny Connor
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Le MARIN anchorage. Martinique 


On Mar 4, 2020, at 13:55, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:



Hi Alan,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Agree that NEW CALEDONIA is NO problem at all. I sailed for about 18 months around NC (still own a mooring there 😊); during 2018 had a bunch of AMEL parts come in and even imported a complete new VOLVO D3 engine w/o the slightest problem. Even in VANUATU things went flawless when I imported parts from USA, all new sails from TURKEY as well as the OCTender from NEW ZEALAND, But, so far, AUSTRALIA is a complete different experience.

 

The frustrating part is that the AUSTRALIAN authorities (ABF) agree with the YACHT IN TRANSIT concept but I have yet to find a custom broker experienced with this procedure.

 

On another topic, but still related, if any foreign owned boat considers selling or even have the boat listed for sale (on the internet or overseas) when calling or sailing in AUSTRALIAN waters you will have to pay the import duty REGARDLESS if the boat will ultimately be sold to another non AUSTRALIAN and/or leaves AUSTRALIAN waters; and AUSTRALIA reinforces this vigorously and have officers checking websites for any boats for sale. ABF will ask you several times, when they come on board during clearance, if you plan to sell the vessel; this is also one of the reasons they want you to report the position of the boat every 3 months. I had heard this from other sailors in NEW CAL as well as in VANUATU and although I have no intention of selling AMELIT it was reconfirmed when a fellow A54 owner intended to sail to AUSTRALIA and sell his A54. We were planning to buddy boat to AUSTRALIA until I suggested him to verify this information; he did and then changed his destination to NEW ZEALAND.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 10:50:04

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 22:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/custom broker BRISBANE/COOMERA QLD AUSTRALIA/AYOGF

 

Hi Teun,

I can't help you with Customs Broker in Brisbane, but I would think that pretty much any customs broker would be able to do it for you.

Just FYI, in New Caledonia, when you arrive and  clear customs (they never come to the boat) in Port Moselle, you complete the customs declaration and the Capitainnerie fax off the form to Customs and if you don't hear anything within a few hours then you are cleared in. If you want to get your imported items for the boat in duty and tax free, you need to ask the Capitainnerie to ask customs to send back an IFT number...they never send it without being asked...and often you need to ask a few times.....basically its the customs form you filled in with their reference number on it. Presenting that form to Fedex, DHL or whoever will ensure you don't pay tax or duty on items imported for the yacht in transit.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Dan 
I think you'll find that bracket is standard on Amel Super Maramus.
Every one I've seen, including ours, has it.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Porter McRoberts
 

Ours is mounted deep under the Nav station desk (with external antenna). No problem with GPS signal ever. Just FYI. 
Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS a54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:



  1. The main unit should be installed in a position in the cabin where it will have GPS reception i.e. high in the cabin and near a window. The external antenna repeats the Iridium signal but not the GPS signal necessary for tracking. At present there is no external Antenna for the Iridium GO! that will boost the GPS signal.
This is from the iridium go page. I have the same antenna as shown and same place, cable runs through the pipe where also the BLU/SSB is running and unit is at the cart table.
The external antenna is a little sensitive to people sitting at the backseat and leaning too much over the reling and when throwing the lines while getting to the harbour.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162







Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Wolfgang Weber
 


  1. The main unit should be installed in a position in the cabin where it will have GPS reception i.e. high in the cabin and near a window. The external antenna repeats the Iridium signal but not the GPS signal necessary for tracking. At present there is no external Antenna for the Iridium GO! that will boost the GPS signal.
This is from the iridium go page. I have the same antenna as shown and same place, cable runs through the pipe where also the BLU/SSB is running and unit is at the cart table.
The external antenna is a little sensitive to people sitting at the backseat and leaning too much over the reling and when throwing the lines while getting to the harbour.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162







Re: Bottom paint removal problem

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, I need to remove 20 some years of paint. Do you remember the name of the product you bought from Home Depot ? Was it meant to be used on fiberglass? Have any idea as to the man hours to strip your boat. Thinking I may hire a helper or two and tackle it myself.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>; Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem

Hi Mark,
After 16 years I had the bottom of Kimberlite cleaned down to the gelcoat. I did not want to use any form of blasting. I had the yard use a chemical stripper available at Home depot to remove paint down to the gelcoat. It took time and multiple applications but it worked and the bottom came up quite clean. I think the paint we removed weighed somewhere between 3 and 400 pounds and it was ablative paint..
I then had the yard apply 4 coats of interprotect . They then applied a hard epoxy blue paint and then 2 coats of black ablative paint. worked great . We hauled this year after 2 years and the bottom was beautiful. I would suggest using the chemical stripper when it is warm as it is a chemical process.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite

On February 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I have owned my Super Maramu since she was launched in 2003.  Amel applied a hard bottom paint before launch in 2003 but since then I have only used ablative paint.  The layer is now thick and a bit uneven.  Having carefully examined the words of caution on the Amel owners group, particularly those of Joel Potter, I have looked in vain for a soda blaster to remove all the old bottom paint. I just cannot find one in Rhode Island.  The contractor recommended by my Rhode Island marina uses glass and is apparently very experienced with blasting boat bottoms. 

Last week I contacted the large Hinckley repair yard in Portsmouth, RI and it turns out that they do not have access to soda blasting either and use the same glass blasting contractor used by the full service marina where Sabbatical III is stored.  Hinckley recommends the glass blasting followed by 5 coats of epoxy (the 5 coats is their rule for European boats).  My yard has suggested 3 coats of epoxy as a water barrier.
I had been hoping for soda blasting plus a single coat of epoxy as a primer, on the assumption that the barrier coat under the gel coat would remain intact.  I did not expect that it would not be possible to find a soda blasting contractor in Rhode Island (or nearby Massachusetts) who works on boat hulls.
 
Any suggestions for me?  I feel stuck and am inclined to use glass blasting following by 3 or more coats of epoxy as a barrier coat.
 
Mark Pitt
“Sabbatical III”, SM#419, Wickford, Rhode Island, USA
 

 


Re: How to clean the hull from diesel soot

eric freedman
 

This is the stuff I initially recommended—I now get little to no soot.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 10:35 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] How to clean the hull from diesel soot

 

People swear by this diesel fuel additive. Doesn’t deposit black soot on the hull.

https://www.howeslube.com/products/meaner-power-kleaner

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Mar 3, 2020, at 10:15 PM, CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote:

Hi,
we love our Amel 54 but we constantly struggle to keep the exhaust side of the hull clean. A battle we often loose and after just another couple of days that black spot on the side start growing back - So frustrating.

It’s also very difficult to get rid of the soot as it seems to grow into the gelcoat. When in NZ we polished the boat with SealX and the result was stunning - for a couple of weeks.
Over time we’ve tried many many products but we still struggling and it’s so hard to clean the soot away and to keep the hull side clean. 

what products do you use to get rid of the soot?
We appreciate all tips and tricks:)
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: A55: fresh water pump system : Beam IV

michael winand
 

I would start from the furthest cold water tap. Disconnect the fixture and connect a hose that you can use the dock water. Disconnect the hose from the pump. Put a hose into a bucket so that you can see if anything comes through. Looking for a small piece of plastic. 
This is a last step in the process to ensure you have cleared the pipeline. 
I think you will probably not have to do this. 

On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 12:20 am, Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io
<pstas2003@...> wrote:
Stuart

Congratulations

Looks like you are well on your way to fixing this problem.

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn  SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Cruising Bahamas





Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Laurens Vos
 

I just ordered last week the Reckmann furlers.

Did as good as possible research on both options and found out that even when the Reckmann are almost double the price compared to Bamar that Reckmann is probably the better choice.

A 54 owner which has the new Bamars EJF for a few years on has boat found out that they having serious corrosion. It's difficult to find out how serious the corrosion is because only Bamar can open the units to service. 

After this came to my ear I made the decision for the Reckmann's. 

The quotation which I got from Bamar was € 16.846,= ex. VAT and from Reckmann 31.464,= ex. VAT 
On this prices comes VAT, the transportation and installation. 
Including all above prices are € 24.235,= and € 41.274,=

If anyone is interested in my old Bamar MEJ furlers send me a mail. 

Laurens Vos
A54 - Fun@Sea 
La Rochelle 


Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks Dan what type of sailing are you comfortable with it there?
Cheers and many thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Iridium go external antenna location

Courtney, here are some more photos of the engine bracket.  I have seen it on other Amels.  The wood is a real Marine laminate. There are two SS straps that giver the top rail and hold it all together, as well as the engine clamps.  It straddles one of the verticle supports for the rail. And is positioned for easy lifting with the mizzen ballooner halyard or a line thru a block at the mizzen spreader. 

Let me know if you have additional questions. 

Regards, Daniel


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 2:01 PM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Dan would you mind sending me a picture of your outboard I like the way it is secured also did you add any reinforcement to the board it is attached to?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Iridium go external antenna location

Hi Scott, here is a picture of my antenna mount, the wire pass thru the deck with compression fitting, and the inside mount by the nav station. I used an existing hole in edge of the deck. I also installed the same compression fitting in the hole through the bulkhead into the rear cabin.  This allows the slightly oversized hole for the cable to pass.  It took most of the cable length I had (probably the same as you) to reach the nav stations.

We are not are of any issues with the signal. Used it half of last season and the last few months if this season across the Caribbean from Panama to the DR.  

We never touch the Iridium unit itself except to turn it off once in a while.  We have a 5 USB port charging block there for keeping all of our other devices charged up as well.

It was not that difficult on an SM. Just a few tight turns around the aft hanging locker. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 10:04 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Hi all,

We just scored a great deal on a used Iridium Go with the external antenna. It comes with 12m of antenna cable and the mount for steel tubes. 
https://www.predictwind.com/iridium-go/#purchase-options

Any suggestions on where to mount the external antenna? I'd like to mine your collective knowledge before I start drilling any new holes. We have a large aft solar arch and assume putting it back there would degrade the signal. 

Additionally, how have you all run the thick antenna cable into the boat? I would like to put the Iridium Go at the nav station, but that's not a requirement. 

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com



Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Dan

We have an identical bracket on Ocean Pearl. I always thought it was an Amel standard fixture.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 05 March 2020 at 09:17 Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:

Courtney, here are some more photos of the engine bracket.  I have seen it on other Amels.  The wood is a real Marine laminate. There are two SS straps that giver the top rail and hold it all together, as well as the engine clamps.  It straddles one of the verticle supports for the rail. And is positioned for easy lifting with the mizzen ballooner halyard or a line thru a block at the mizzen spreader. 

Let me know if you have additional questions. 

Regards, Daniel


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 2:01 PM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1= aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Dan would you mind sending me a picture of your outboard I like the way it is secured also did you add any reinforcement to the board it is attached to?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Carlson < carlsdan61@...>
To: main < main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Iridium go external antenna location

Hi Scott, here is a picture of my antenna mount, the wire pass thru the deck with compression fitting, and the inside mount by the nav station. I used an existing hole in edge of the deck. I also installed the same compression fitting in the hole through the bulkhead into the rear cabin.  This allows the slightly oversized hole for the cable to pass.  It took most of the cable length I had (probably the same as you) to reach the nav stations.

We are not are of any issues with the signal. Used it half of last season and the last few months if this season across the Caribbean from Panama to the DR.  

We never touch the Iridium unit itself except to turn it off once in a while.  We have a 5 USB port charging block there for keeping all of our other devices charged up as well.

It was not that difficult on an SM. Just a few tight turns around the aft hanging locker. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 10:04 AM Scott SV Tengah < Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Hi all,

We just scored a great deal on a used Iridium Go with the external antenna. It comes with 12m of antenna cable and the mount for steel tubes. 
https://www.predictwind.com/iridium-go/#purchase-options

Any suggestions on where to mount the external antenna? I'd like to mine your collective knowledge before I start drilling any new holes. We have a large aft solar arch and assume putting it back there would degrade the signal. 

Additionally, how have you all run the thick antenna cable into the boat? I would like to put the Iridium Go at the nav station, but that's not a requirement. 

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
 
 

 

 


Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Dan Carlson
 

Courtney, here are some more photos of the engine bracket.  I have seen it on other Amels.  The wood is a real Marine laminate. There are two SS straps that giver the top rail and hold it all together, as well as the engine clamps.  It straddles one of the verticle supports for the rail. And is positioned for easy lifting with the mizzen ballooner halyard or a line thru a block at the mizzen spreader. 

Let me know if you have additional questions. 

Regards, Daniel


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 2:01 PM Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Dan would you mind sending me a picture of your outboard I like the way it is secured also did you add any reinforcement to the board it is attached to?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Iridium go external antenna location

Hi Scott, here is a picture of my antenna mount, the wire pass thru the deck with compression fitting, and the inside mount by the nav station. I used an existing hole in edge of the deck. I also installed the same compression fitting in the hole through the bulkhead into the rear cabin.  This allows the slightly oversized hole for the cable to pass.  It took most of the cable length I had (probably the same as you) to reach the nav stations.

We are not are of any issues with the signal. Used it half of last season and the last few months if this season across the Caribbean from Panama to the DR.  

We never touch the Iridium unit itself except to turn it off once in a while.  We have a 5 USB port charging block there for keeping all of our other devices charged up as well.

It was not that difficult on an SM. Just a few tight turns around the aft hanging locker. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 10:04 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Hi all,

We just scored a great deal on a used Iridium Go with the external antenna. It comes with 12m of antenna cable and the mount for steel tubes. 
https://www.predictwind.com/iridium-go/#purchase-options

Any suggestions on where to mount the external antenna? I'd like to mine your collective knowledge before I start drilling any new holes. We have a large aft solar arch and assume putting it back there would degrade the signal. 

Additionally, how have you all run the thick antenna cable into the boat? I would like to put the Iridium Go at the nav station, but that's not a requirement. 

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Parts for sale from Alex Uster formerly NIKIMAT

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Randall, 


Thank you so much, I am very flattered and extremely honored by your message. 

Today being my birthday, it is one of the nicest message I could receive.  


Sincerely, Alexandre






On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 04:10:00 PM UTC, Randall Walker <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:


Alexandre, Nikimat was one of my inspirations for buying into the AMEL world. I remember seeing it after the Hurricane in a you tube video it was sad to see. I have wondered what became of her.

Take care,
Randall
A54 #56

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:41 PM Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Good morning, 


I am back in Sint Maarten and putting the rest of my boat parts for sale.  


Just posted information on my Genoa, Main and Like New Mizzen. 


You can read the information on the Share Parts section of the forum: 

 https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/ShareParts/topics


More to come:

Full/complete bow thruster foot

Volvo TMD 22 P parts (including 4 injectors)

etc.  

If some of you pass by Sint Maarten, let me know it will be a pleasure to meet you.  
Just met Bill & Joanna the new owners of Cloudstreet as well as Brian who just purchase a Maramu.  


Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

Formerly SM2K #289 NIKIMAT


Re: Important Q for electrical engineers: Covering solar panels for Panama Canal transit - possible damage?

Kelly Ran
 

Scott, I reread your message and saw you have your panels in parallel - do you have blocking diodes at each panel? These would be necessary to prevent current in your open-circuit situation. If you have blocking diodes (not the same as bypass diodes) then you are OK. 


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:40 PM Kelly Ran <naryllek@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

open circuiting the panels, as you said, means no current and no hotspots/damage.
just wanted to clarify, the switches are between the panels and charge controllers, NOT between the controllers and the battery? (If the latter, you should make sure you shade the panels first before you open the switch. depending on topology, some charge controllers do not like getting their output open circuited under load.) Seems like the former so you're OK.

now the bypass diode issue is different, in partial shading, bypass diodes should *bypass* shaded modules and reduce panel hotspots. the diodes should be sized to carry a lot of current & not get damaged. another issue for another time. 

happy crossing
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:58 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
All,

We are scheduled to transit the Panama Canal today and I'm trying to be extra careful with respect to covering the panels to avoid damage by the monkey fists thrown by the canal advisors.

Our intent is to use an extra sunbrella cover first and then put the cockpit cushions on top of that. I do recall somewhere that having complete shading on some parts of the panel but not others (as will happen with putting cockpit cushions on them) may cause hotspots and damage to the diodes.

Any electrical engineers or more experienced folks have an opinion on this?

We intend to turn off the master switches for pos/neg that are installed specifically for the solar panels. The 3 panels are setup in parallel, fyi. That should open circuit them and cause no current to flow and hence eliminate risk of damage, no?
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Important Q for electrical engineers: Covering solar panels for Panama Canal transit - possible damage?

Kelly Ran
 

Hi Scott,

open circuiting the panels, as you said, means no current and no hotspots/damage.
just wanted to clarify, the switches are between the panels and charge controllers, NOT between the controllers and the battery? (If the latter, you should make sure you shade the panels first before you open the switch. depending on topology, some charge controllers do not like getting their output open circuited under load.) Seems like the former so you're OK.

now the bypass diode issue is different, in partial shading, bypass diodes should *bypass* shaded modules and reduce panel hotspots. the diodes should be sized to carry a lot of current & not get damaged. another issue for another time. 

happy crossing
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:58 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
All,

We are scheduled to transit the Panama Canal today and I'm trying to be extra careful with respect to covering the panels to avoid damage by the monkey fists thrown by the canal advisors.

Our intent is to use an extra sunbrella cover first and then put the cockpit cushions on top of that. I do recall somewhere that having complete shading on some parts of the panel but not others (as will happen with putting cockpit cushions on them) may cause hotspots and damage to the diodes.

Any electrical engineers or more experienced folks have an opinion on this?

We intend to turn off the master switches for pos/neg that are installed specifically for the solar panels. The 3 panels are setup in parallel, fyi. That should open circuit them and cause no current to flow and hence eliminate risk of damage, no?
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: How to clean the hull from diesel soot

Teun BAAS
 

Dear Carina,

 

Also use additive in my fuel – don’t have (much) soot at all but that might be bcoz I have the D3 H version which apparently runs more efficient than the D3 C.

The soot I do have is from the ONAN.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

March 4, 2020 11:29:47

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Forbes via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 01:57
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] How to clean the hull from diesel soot

 

Dear Carina,

 

I’m glad you are still going well - just for interest we did not have the black exhaust spot problem so I wonder if it is your engine or fuel combination? We used additives many different types which we bought as we sailed around.

 

Peter

Peter Forbes

Carango 54  #035 

La Rochelle

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 4 Mar 2020, at 03:15, CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote:

Hi,
we love our Amel 54 but we constantly struggle to keep the exhaust side of the hull clean. A battle we often loose and after just another couple of days that black spot on the side start growing back - So frustrating.

It’s also very difficult to get rid of the soot as it seems to grow into the gelcoat. When in NZ we polished the boat with SealX and the result was stunning - for a couple of weeks.
Over time we’ve tried many many products but we still struggling and it’s so hard to clean the soot away and to keep the hull side clean. 

what products do you use to get rid of the soot?
We appreciate all tips and tricks:)
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165