On Mar 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Keith Tice <amel@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,

I finally got the replacement sensor installed, but I am at the same place as you were on 26.April 2019.  The display in the cockpit lights up, but stays at Zero.

You described having the same difficulty, then later (23.May) you wrote that it works and was a bad sensor near the windlass. 

Between April 26 and May 23, what did you find was the problem.

The LED lights as the winch rotates… :-)

Now I re-check specifications….  I installed IFM5096  Normally Closed, PNP …  IFM5072 is Normally Closed, NPN…  IFM5076 is Normally Open, NPN

https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5096

https://www.ifm.com/ch/de/product/IB5072

https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5076

PNP sensors are sometimes called “sourcing sensors” because they source positive power to the output. NPN sensors are sometime called “sinking sensors” because they sink ground to the output.

I found I can order the IFM5072, depending on your answer, this is my next step…

Thanks,

Keith

Bikini SM 282

On 16 Nov 2019, at 22:05, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

I also replaced the sensor. I was concerned that I would have to install another relay to invert the signal, but that was not necessary. The replacement unit works well. 

Tom Peacock

SM Aletes #240

Martinique 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, "heinz@..." <heinz@...> wrote:

Hallo 

I have the same one I get it 2 years ago and it works well. 

HEINZ Sm 2000, 292

Am 09.11.2019 um 03:09 schrieb Keith Tice <amel@...>:

My chain counter recently stopped counting.
Before it stopped it was counting when we weren't looking and not counting when the anchor was moving.  
I found that the Efector IB5076 induction sensor is no longer produced, but that the IB5096 is available.
The only difference in the data sheet is that the signal NPN for IB5076 is PNP for IB5096. https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5076 
https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5096   
Should this be a plug compatible replacement?  
I mean, one is on a lot and turns off and the other is off a lot and turns on. It is pulsing and the counter should just be counting pulses.  
What is the opinion here?
Keith
Bikini SM 282

I do think the standard cockpit table is one of the worst features of the Amel 54’s cockpit. It’s heavy and always in the way. I removed it and put at our house. Currently using a small foldable table doing it’s job excellent. I did consider the Lagun table as well so it’s great to see your positive report on it. I don’t think the table is carried by the chandlers on St. Maarten. So I have some time to consider other options as well. I really like the thing done by a fellow Amelian where he replaced the base of the steering chair with a stainless column, resulting in a improved folding of the standard table to facilitate the opening of the engine room hatch without moving the table. Obviously that is much more work and uses quite some expensive pieces of stainless.

Regards,
Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121

On 16 Nov 2019, at 22:05, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:

I also replaced the sensor. I was concerned that I would have to install another relay to invert the signal, but that was not necessary. The replacement unit works well. 

Tom Peacock

SM Aletes #240

Martinique 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:53 AM, "heinz@..." <heinz@...> wrote:

Hallo 

I have the same one I get it 2 years ago and it works well. 

HEINZ Sm 2000, 292

Am 09.11.2019 um 03:09 schrieb Keith Tice <amel@...>:

My chain counter recently stopped counting.
Before it stopped it was counting when we weren't looking and not counting when the anchor was moving.  
I found that the Efector IB5076 induction sensor is no longer produced, but that the IB5096 is available.
The only difference in the data sheet is that the signal NPN for IB5076 is PNP for IB5096. https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5076 
https://www.ifm.com/ch/en/product/IB5096   
Should this be a plug compatible replacement?  
I mean, one is on a lot and turns off and the other is off a lot and turns on. It is pulsing and the counter should just be counting pulses.  
What is the opinion here?
Keith
Bikini SM 282

On 8 Mar 2020, at 14:03, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Randal.  On our A54-152 the table stores in a tucked forward position so the engine hatch opens unencumbered.  

I thought it was this way for everyone until we were parked next to another A54 in Opua.  What a nightmare to get into the engine room!  I think an easy modification to pull forward could be done.  Ill post a photo of our scenario when we get back to the boat shortly.

Amel does listen!

Porter A54-152

On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Randall <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:

Just to keep the hype for a good thing. Here some pics of basically the same bracketing. I don't Know who started this good thing, but this was on my 54. I will say the previous owners did upgrades a world traveller could appreciate. The one thing I plan for in the future is the stainless reinvent of the helm seat bracket, I believe is on Attika That is just brilliant. I will copy a pic from the owners group pics.

Great table ideas.

If I were to ever be a boat builder.

My first question to an owner of a boat that I had built, would be. What did you not like?. Why? Well, if I change what you don't like I will make them better.

My point is. How long have they been building that table in the way. I had to get in the engine bay on passage. Hold it in the air, while I reach for and lift the floor. You all have had to.

Randall

A54 #56

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Ann-Sofia, Diane and I were on your boat in 2015 in Prickly Bay ,Grenada, and that is when we first saw the bracket and bought one when we got home. So you get credit for our's . Say Hi! to Jonas .

Hope all is well,

Pat & Diane,

SV Shenanigans,

-----Original Message-----
From: Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2020 3:37 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] The ultimate cockpit table?

I wonder if not S/Y Lady Annila is that friend of a friend. 😊

We have had that solution since 2007, and I think our pictures is here on the forum some where.

Glad that our idea has been adopted by so many.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998


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> 8 mars 2020 kl. 01:45 skrev Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...>:
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> Hi all,
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> Last year, we installed a cockpit table based on a Lagun structure and a skimboard. Yes, after looking for months for the perfect table top, a light bulb switched on in the fun sports department of a hardware store in Panama.
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> The Lagun arm idea came from a friend on an SM, who got the idea from a friend of his on another SM. It has since been used on a Mango, and Maramu friend is drooling over it. I think it would fit most Amel model i can think of.
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> Table tops are a personal choice but the skimboard, although looking “modern” (some may say weird) won it for being lightweight, weatherproof, very rigid, skid proof, very cheap (~$20!) and, as it turns out, very cleanable.
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> On a 54, it’s possible to find the right table dimensions to:
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> - Use it as a coffee table for everybody’s sundowners,
> - use it as a dinner table for two, on either side of the mizzen, or other layout to stay out of the sun,
> - use it as a computer desk, again in various parts of the cockpit,
> - stay/swing out of the way of people moving in the cockpit while sailing or entertaining,
> - open any cockpit locker and the engine room hatch(*) without removing the table,
> - deploy and use the banquet cockpit table without removing the useful cockpit table,
> - operate the winches on the mizzen.
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> We put it up more than a year ago in Panama and basically never removed it since.
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On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Randall <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:

Just to keep the hype for a good thing. Here some pics of basically the same bracketing. I don't Know who started this good thing, but this was on my 54. I will say the previous owners did upgrades a world traveller could appreciate. The one thing I plan for in the future is the stainless reinvent of the helm seat bracket, I believe is on Attika That is just brilliant. I will copy a pic from the owners group pics.

Great table ideas.

If I were to ever be a boat builder.

My first question to an owner of a boat that I had built, would be. What did you not like?. Why? Well, if I change what you don't like I will make them better.

My point is. How long have they been building that table in the way. I had to get in the engine bay on passage. Hold it in the air, while I reach for and lift the floor. You all have had to.

Randall

A54 #56

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Ann-Sofia, Diane and I were on your boat in 2015 in Prickly Bay ,Grenada, and that is when we first saw the bracket and bought one when we got home. So you get credit for our's . Say Hi! to Jonas .

Hope all is well,

Pat & Diane,

SV Shenanigans,

-----Original Message-----
From: Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2020 3:37 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] The ultimate cockpit table?

I wonder if not S/Y Lady Annila is that friend of a friend. 😊

We have had that solution since 2007, and I think our pictures is here on the forum some where.

Glad that our idea has been adopted by so many.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone

> 8 mars 2020 kl. 01:45 skrev Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Last year, we installed a cockpit table based on a Lagun structure and a skimboard. Yes, after looking for months for the perfect table top, a light bulb switched on in the fun sports department of a hardware store in Panama.
>
> The Lagun arm idea came from a friend on an SM, who got the idea from a friend of his on another SM. It has since been used on a Mango, and Maramu friend is drooling over it. I think it would fit most Amel model i can think of.
>
> Table tops are a personal choice but the skimboard, although looking “modern” (some may say weird) won it for being lightweight, weatherproof, very rigid, skid proof, very cheap (~$20!) and, as it turns out, very cleanable.
>
>
> On a 54, it’s possible to find the right table dimensions to:
>
> - Use it as a coffee table for everybody’s sundowners,
> - use it as a dinner table for two, on either side of the mizzen, or other layout to stay out of the sun,
> - use it as a computer desk, again in various parts of the cockpit,
> - stay/swing out of the way of people moving in the cockpit while sailing or entertaining,
> - open any cockpit locker and the engine room hatch(*) without removing the table,
> - deploy and use the banquet cockpit table without removing the useful cockpit table,
> - operate the winches on the mizzen.
>
> We put it up more than a year ago in Panama and basically never removed it since.
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> (*) by cutting a wedge off the foot, the hatch can even open without raising the table.
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> Hope it will give you ideas and a many enjoyable alfresco meals.
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> Thomas
> GARULFO
> A54-122
> Hiva Oa, French Polynesia
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8 mars 2020 kl. 01:45 skrev Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@gmail.com>:

Hi all,

Last year, we installed a cockpit table based on a Lagun structure and a skimboard. Yes, after looking for months for the perfect table top, a light bulb switched on in the fun sports department of a hardware store in Panama.

The Lagun arm idea came from a friend on an SM, who got the idea from a friend of his on another SM. It has since been used on a Mango, and Maramu friend is drooling over it. I think it would fit most Amel model i can think of.

Table tops are a personal choice but the skimboard, although looking “modern” (some may say weird) won it for being lightweight, weatherproof, very rigid, skid proof, very cheap (~$20!) and, as it turns out, very cleanable.


On a 54, it’s possible to find the right table dimensions to:

- Use it as a coffee table for everybody’s sundowners,
- use it as a dinner table for two, on either side of the mizzen, or other layout to stay out of the sun,
- use it as a computer desk, again in various parts of the cockpit,
- stay/swing out of the way of people moving in the cockpit while sailing or entertaining,
- open any cockpit locker and the engine room hatch(*) without removing the table,
- deploy and use the banquet cockpit table without removing the useful cockpit table,
- operate the winches on the mizzen.

We put it up more than a year ago in Panama and basically never removed it since.




























(*) by cutting a wedge off the foot, the hatch can even open without raising the table.


Hope it will give you ideas and a many enjoyable alfresco meals.


Thomas
GARULFO
A54-122
Hiva Oa, French Polynesia



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