Date   
Re: Propeller. Bowthruster lost. Sm435

Kevin Cole
 

Hello Arthur,
I have had to replace the bow thruster prop underwater. I found that the easiest way align the nylon screws to the hub, was to use 3 stainless screws about 1/4-1/2” longer than the nylon ones. Then I used stainless screws (same size as nylon) to draw prop onto hub. Once the prop is secure to hub, I replace the stainless screws with the nylon. It was easy. Easier than taping prop onto hub with mallet and trying to align the nylon screws. 
Ps. We will be in shelter bay March 17. I have spare hubs/pins/screws if you need

Cheers Kevin 
SM2 Anahita #276
Bocas Del Toro Panama

On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:48 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...> wrote:



Good morning Arthur, 

Scroll down the pictures of the Bow Thruster illustration: 

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html


I once scuba dive to replace the propeller, sadly to discover later that the hub holding the propeller was wobbly… because of elongated holes and end up having to overhaul it

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_lost_propeller.html


Other informations:

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html


Sincerely, Alexandre




On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 02:06:48 AM UTC, Arthur Sundqvist <arthur@...> wrote:


I need some pictures to understand how to fit the new bowthruster propeller. Propeller and 6 nyloscrews are gone. The round nylon with Tap is there. Can I use that old one and screw the new propeller into it??  Boat in water. Want to do it diving with tanks underwater....
kindest regards
arthur Sundqvist 
sm435. Vista
Panama. Shelter Bay

Re: Propeller. Bowthruster lost. Sm435

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Arthur, 

Scroll down the pictures of the Bow Thruster illustration: 

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html


I once scuba dive to replace the propeller, sadly to discover later that the hub holding the propeller was wobbly… because of elongated holes and end up having to overhaul it

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_lost_propeller.html


Other informations:

http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html


Sincerely, Alexandre




On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 02:06:48 AM UTC, Arthur Sundqvist <arthur@...> wrote:


I need some pictures to understand how to fit the new bowthruster propeller. Propeller and 6 nyloscrews are gone. The round nylon with Tap is there. Can I use that old one and screw the new propeller into it??  Boat in water. Want to do it diving with tanks underwater....
kindest regards
arthur Sundqvist 
sm435. Vista
Panama. Shelter Bay

Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

william reynolds
 

Brilliant solution. My 1st mate has stated several times that "Maybe we otter" do something to cover/protect the switches while underway. 
I see a great cottage industry opportunity here here. This should be standard equipment on all Amels. Could you post an engineering drawing?
Bill and Joanna
Cloulstreet
SM2k 331

Re: Circumnavigation

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi Joel 
I like your idea of the reward !
but start very low for the late starter who might not achieve very much !!🤓
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

Re: Circumnavigation

Nicolas Klene
 

Bravo !! 

what an achievement and an example !
I hope I’ll be able to do a little bit of your amazing voyage in the next 20 years !! 
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

Re: Propeller. Bowthruster lost. Sm435

 

You should replace the delrin hub and screws. Search PHOTOS for "thruster" on the Group website. There are plenty there. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 9:06 PM Arthur Sundqvist <arthur@...> wrote:
I need some pictures to understand how to fit the new bowthruster propeller. Propeller and 6 nyloscrews are gone. The round nylon with Tap is there. Can I use that old one and screw the new propeller into it??  Boat in water. Want to do it diving with tanks underwater....
kindest regards
arthur Sundqvist 
sm435. Vista
Panama. Shelter Bay

Re: Volvo warning

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Paul,
I had the same thing in Grenada.
Grenada Marine were the Volvo agents but frankly were useless.
The technician arrived but could not log into the Volvo network as he had not paid up! He then tried to tell me it was the alternator. Anyhow I decided it was some kind of sensor or the Turbo and continue in limp mode. When we arrived in Martinique, the excellent Volvo agent plugged in his diagnostic computer and it was the Boost sensor that he had in stock and changed there and then. Cost 420 euros.
Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML 54 019
Kilada Greece

On 9 Mar 2020, at 17:09, ULRICH DANGELMEYER <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:

Hi, Paul,

this error message sounds very familiar…
on our D3-110 we had 3 years ago, just when we wanted to leave, exactly such a message with red light warning, engine failure! no further information. You can read in your Volvo manual which error codes are displayed. But then you still don't know which error is present. In any case, you need a Volvo technician with a VODIA tester, who can read the error memory of your ECU and delete it later. In our case an experienced electronic technician first tried his luck, but he could only suspect a sensor error.
We then called the Volvo hotline to get a Volvo technician, which took time because we were on a small Greek island and didn't want to continue with the engine. With the tester he found the fault in two minutes: the boost pressure sensor. It had to be ordered, it was not in stock from Volvo in Greece, so it had to be delivered from Sweden. The whole thing cost us three weeks of our holidays and 1100 Euros. The (BOSCH) sensor costs about 150€, in our bill it were 280 €! The difference were diagnosis and traveling costs. Grrr...
It's a huge mess with the fully electronically controlled engines, just like in a car. In case of malfunctions you can only do the basics without tester and expertise. It's unimaginable when you are on a long passage and the error message comes. But the Volvo man had one small consolation: the engines all have an emergency program in background like in cars, that allows you to continue driving in a reduced gear without the engine breaking down. Of course, the oil and cooling must be right.

Hope this may help you a little bit, I like to recommend you to get directly in Touch with "VOLVO Action service“, a 24/7 „global break down service in 28 languages“.
Try +32 9 255 69 77 or (while you stay in Grenada): +1 336 393 4968.

My best wishes.
Stay calm and carry on..

Best Regards

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54 #088, Dodecanesos Greece.
<>

Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Paolo;

 

It is great to see that you are contributing to this forum. There are so many lessons that are better learned as shared, rather than experienced in person.

 

I’m sorry to see that you had to go through so much time, effort and resources to correct what could have easily been prevented by a more careful technician.

 

I would also like to add that we try to prevent errors by outside vendors, by never allowing any work to be done on the boat without our presence. Given the number of systems on an Amel, it is not hard to envision what types of mishaps they can create.

 

Thanks for sharing and welcome .

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of PAOLO CUNEO via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 3:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

 

 

 

 

Hi all Amelians

after some month as "read only" member, during which I developed a sincere admiration for the level of competence of my fellow Amelians,  this is my first intervention as an active participant, with a humble but potentially money saver contribution.

 

Sometime ago, in my absence, a technician on board for an intervention must have deposed his toolbox or an equivalent heavy item right on top of the command panel (which, because of the intervention in progress was "on"), inadvertently activating the Main roller, which furled and unfurled many times inside the main mast, creating a solid tangle of aluminum profile and sailcloth inside the groove. In spite of the intervention of some of the most experienced riggers in the area, it resulted impossible to pull the sail out.

End result: one (almost new) mainsail cut and extracted in nice stripes of sailcloth, an internal al profile twisted beyond repair, a transfer to Amel's Hyères base, dismasting, replacing the profile, re-masting, buying a new main  and suing the insurance company for persuading them that the internal roller was in fact part of the (insured) Rigging.

Some months and about $15.000 later, in hindsight, I produced the small device shown in the photo . I am pretty sure that many Amelians have already produced something to the same effect  but, wathever the form it may take, I warmly recommend all colleagues to adopt if they are not so diligent as to remember to switch off the command panel from inside every time it is out of their sight.

Kindest regards to you all

 

Paolo Cuneo

SM 454 “WHISPER” currently in Genoa

 

 

 

Propeller. Bowthruster lost. Sm435

Arthur Sundqvist
 

I need some pictures to understand how to fit the new bowthruster propeller. Propeller and 6 nyloscrews are gone. The round nylon with Tap is there. Can I use that old one and screw the new propeller into it??  Boat in water. Want to do it diving with tanks underwater....
kindest regards
arthur Sundqvist 
sm435. Vista
Panama. Shelter Bay

Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Complimenti, un'ottima idea, di facile realizzazione!
Saluti.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sy Saudade III, Sharki #1


Il Lun 9 Mar 2020, 18:33 PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> ha scritto:

 

 

 

Hi all Amelians

after some month as "read only" member, during which I developed a sincere admiration for the level of competence of my fellow Amelians,  this is my first intervention as an active participant, with a humble but potentially money saver contribution.

 

Sometime ago, in my absence, a technician on board for an intervention must have deposed his toolbox or an equivalent heavy item right on top of the command panel (which, because of the intervention in progress was "on"), inadvertently activating the Main roller, which furled and unfurled many times inside the main mast, creating a solid tangle of aluminum profile and sailcloth inside the groove. In spite of the intervention of some of the most experienced riggers in the area, it resulted impossible to pull the sail out.

End result: one (almost new) mainsail cut and extracted in nice stripes of sailcloth, an internal al profile twisted beyond repair, a transfer to Amel's Hyères base, dismasting, replacing the profile, re-masting, buying a new main  and suing the insurance company for persuading them that the internal roller was in fact part of the (insured) Rigging.

Some months and about $15.000 later, in hindsight, I produced the small device shown in the photo . I am pretty sure that many Amelians have already produced something to the same effect  but, wathever the form it may take, I warmly recommend all colleagues to adopt if they are not so diligent as to remember to switch off the command panel from inside every time it is out of their sight.

Kindest regards to you all

 

Paolo Cuneo

SM 454 “WHISPER” currently in Genoa

 

 

 

In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

PAOLO CUNEO
 

 

 

 

Hi all Amelians

after some month as "read only" member, during which I developed a sincere admiration for the level of competence of my fellow Amelians,  this is my first intervention as an active participant, with a humble but potentially money saver contribution.

 

Sometime ago, in my absence, a technician on board for an intervention must have deposed his toolbox or an equivalent heavy item right on top of the command panel (which, because of the intervention in progress was "on"), inadvertently activating the Main roller, which furled and unfurled many times inside the main mast, creating a solid tangle of aluminum profile and sailcloth inside the groove. In spite of the intervention of some of the most experienced riggers in the area, it resulted impossible to pull the sail out.

End result: one (almost new) mainsail cut and extracted in nice stripes of sailcloth, an internal al profile twisted beyond repair, a transfer to Amel's Hyères base, dismasting, replacing the profile, re-masting, buying a new main  and suing the insurance company for persuading them that the internal roller was in fact part of the (insured) Rigging.

Some months and about $15.000 later, in hindsight, I produced the small device shown in the photo . I am pretty sure that many Amelians have already produced something to the same effect  but, wathever the form it may take, I warmly recommend all colleagues to adopt if they are not so diligent as to remember to switch off the command panel from inside every time it is out of their sight.

Kindest regards to you all

 

Paolo Cuneo

SM 454 “WHISPER” currently in Genoa

 

 

 

Re: Problem dismantling the main furler worm gear box

Michael & Robyn
 

Hi Paul,

we had the same issue; After soaking in de-greaser I soaked it in vinegar essence for a few days and lots of WD40 for another day. The final job did a 10 ton hydraulic bearing puller like what you find at ebay "10 Ton Hydraulic Gear Puller and Bearing Jaw Separator Set Professional Kit"
I put a SS screw (Allen hread) in the bottom of the Aluminum shaft to protect the thread  and then pushed the aluminum piece out of the hollow steel shaft.
It has to come out otherwise you can't get the bearing off.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417

Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hello to all
and thanks for your appreciated informations.

Scott, 
do you think, the failure (seals/ water intrusion) is avoidable by maintenance or is it (again) bad design/ material?
Do you have any problems after changing the „dying cat“ with the „new“ EJF (It is 1 year ago now?)?

Thx a lot for your response.

Best regards
Stefan
AMEL 54 - N° 119 - Lady Charlyette, currently Guadeloupe

Re: Iridium go external antenna location

Randall
 

Thanks Ken,

I will go with the shorter cable. Love your videos. I understand you need a permit from the UK government. But you should make Chagos islands. even just anchor for the night.

All the best,
Randall
A54 #56

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:34 PM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:
Hello Randall,

I had my cable custom made at The Satellite Phone Store in San Diego.  Satellitephonestore.com...

There are probably cheaper places to purchase a custom cable, but would have to research.  I paid about $75 for mine.  Make sure you look at the specs of the cable, most important is loss per meter at about 1.6 GHz.  

Best,

Ken Powers
Currently in Thailand
Getting ready to cross the Indian Ocean

Re: Volvo warning

Sv Garulfo
 

Paul,


To find out what the error code is, you need to press the rotokey button long enough (7sec) to get in OEM mode, then you’ll see the fault(s) and select them to get the codes. 

Those are references in the workshop manual that will indicate what the problem is. It is now available in the ‘Volvo Penta’ folder. 

Hope this will help. Let us what you find in case we can collectively help. 


Best
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Hiva Oa, French Polynesia 







On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 06:53, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’ve recently started getting the following error message from my Volvo 110:

 

Caution

Check engine

Service required

Torque reduced

 

I changed the oil, oil & fuel filters and impellor, but the error message remains. I can’t see anything about this in the user manual. Any ideas? Am I supposed to tell it I’ve carried out the service? (like you do for some cars) I doubt it though as this is the first time in 8 years I’ve seen this.

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: How to clean the hull from diesel soot

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Clive,

As all the larger Ale mels are center cockpit and the exhaust exits on port of the center cockpit, this is not readily feasable as you would need to drill a hole in the engine bay aft bulkhead.  This would destroy the “watertight bulkhead”.  In my opinion, not a good idea.

The Volvo TMD 22 seems the worst offender.  

Boats are a compromise and at time of construction these engines met the Amel requirement. 

You’ll likely live with the problem… like the rest of us… :-)


Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, NZ



On 10 Mar 2020, at 08:16, Clive Chapman <cochapman@...> wrote:

A slightly left field approach...and with the caveat I’m not (yet) an owner!

Is there any reason why you couldn’t fashion a short extension to the exhaust so it exits 5-10cm off the transom? Would that be enough to push 95% of the smuts away from the boat?

Re: How to clean the hull from diesel soot

Clive Chapman
 

A slightly left field approach...and with the caveat I’m not (yet) an owner!

Is there any reason why you couldn’t fashion a short extension to the exhaust so it exits 5-10cm off the transom? Would that be enough to push 95% of the smuts away from the boat?

Re: Volvo warning

ULRICH DANGELMEYER
 

Hi Paul,

Volvo Action Service recommends on Grenada „Grenada Marine“ as local Volvo dealer. luck happens!

phone: 1473 443 1667
http://grenadamarine.com
info@...
adress: Corinth, St. David´s

good luck!
Cheers
Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ /A54#088
<>

Am 09.03.2020 um 18:19 schrieb Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>:

Thanks Ulrich, I may see if I can find the Volvo dealer here.

Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER
Sent: 09 March 2020 13:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

Hi, Paul,

this error message sounds very familiar… on our D3-110 we had 3 years ago, just when we wanted to leave, exactly such a message with red light warning, engine failure! no further information. You can read in your Volvo manual which error codes are displayed. But then you still don't know which error is present. In any case, you need a Volvo technician with a VODIA tester, who can read the error memory of your ECU and delete it later. In our case an experienced electronic technician first tried his luck, but he could only suspect a sensor error.
We then called the Volvo hotline to get a Volvo technician, which took time because we were on a small Greek island and didn't want to continue with the engine. With the tester he found the fault in two minutes: the boost pressure sensor. It had to be ordered, it was not in stock from Volvo in Greece, so it had to be delivered from Sweden. The whole thing cost us three weeks of our holidays and 1100 Euros. The (BOSCH) sensor costs about 150€, in our bill it were 280 €! The difference were diagnosis and traveling costs. Grrr...
It's a huge mess with the fully electronically controlled engines, just like in a car. In case of malfunctions you can only do the basics without tester and expertise. It's unimaginable when you are on a long passage and the error message comes. But the Volvo man had one small consolation: the engines all have an emergency program in background like in cars, that allows you to continue driving in a reduced gear without the engine breaking down. Of course, the oil and cooling must be right.

Hope this may help you a little bit, I like to recommend you to get directly in Touch with "VOLVO Action service“, a 24/7 „global break down service in 28 languages“.
Try +32 9 255 69 77 or (while you stay in Grenada): +1 336 393 4968.

My best wishes.
Stay calm and carry on..

Best Regards

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54 #088, Dodecanesos Greece.
<>




--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Circumnavigation

Stephen Davis
 

Congratulations on a great accomplishment!

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

Re: Volvo warning

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Ulrich, I may see if I can find the Volvo dealer here.

Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ULRICH DANGELMEYER
Sent: 09 March 2020 13:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

Hi, Paul,

this error message sounds very familiar… on our D3-110 we had 3 years ago, just when we wanted to leave, exactly such a message with red light warning, engine failure! no further information. You can read in your Volvo manual which error codes are displayed. But then you still don't know which error is present. In any case, you need a Volvo technician with a VODIA tester, who can read the error memory of your ECU and delete it later. In our case an experienced electronic technician first tried his luck, but he could only suspect a sensor error.
We then called the Volvo hotline to get a Volvo technician, which took time because we were on a small Greek island and didn't want to continue with the engine. With the tester he found the fault in two minutes: the boost pressure sensor. It had to be ordered, it was not in stock from Volvo in Greece, so it had to be delivered from Sweden. The whole thing cost us three weeks of our holidays and 1100 Euros. The (BOSCH) sensor costs about 150€, in our bill it were 280 €! The difference were diagnosis and traveling costs. Grrr...
It's a huge mess with the fully electronically controlled engines, just like in a car. In case of malfunctions you can only do the basics without tester and expertise. It's unimaginable when you are on a long passage and the error message comes. But the Volvo man had one small consolation: the engines all have an emergency program in background like in cars, that allows you to continue driving in a reduced gear without the engine breaking down. Of course, the oil and cooling must be right.

Hope this may help you a little bit, I like to recommend you to get directly in Touch with "VOLVO Action service“, a 24/7 „global break down service in 28 languages“.
Try +32 9 255 69 77 or (while you stay in Grenada): +1 336 393 4968.

My best wishes.
Stay calm and carry on..

Best Regards

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54 #088, Dodecanesos Greece.
<>




--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98