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Re: New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io

Stefan and Anne Deerberg
 

Hi together!

Please note:
In Martinique all shops Bars , the yard an also the Amel Store is closed regarding the Covid 19 hype.
We heard about that this evening from Per-Erik SM 373 Voyageur, Le Marin 

Good luck 

Stefan 



Stefan Deerberg 

Geschäftsführer 
Deerberg GmbH 
Unternehmer/ Entrepreneur

Velgen 35
29582 Hanstedt 
Germany

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Re: There is NO restrictions for boats to come to Sint Maarten.

John Clark
 

Thanks Alex, so I might be seeing you sooner!


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:56 PM Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

An Amel owner just asked me if boats were still allowed to go to Sint Maarten, so I went to Immigration and ask.  


Only incoming “commercial” flights from the US, UK and EU are canceled as well as cruise ship.  


Private jets & boats are still allowed to come to the island, “REGARDLESS” of where they are coming from. 


Which is not the case for Turks & Caicos as a friend of mine (non-Amel owner) was denied access since he came from Dominican Republic.  


Hope that helps.  

Alexandre


Re: New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io

 

Albon at Amel in Martinique can probably have the gear or shaft/gear for you when you arrive. You can email him at amel.caraibes"at"wanadoo.fr

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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:27 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I just had two teeth on the gear attached to the horizontal winch-handle shaft break off.   No warning as it has always worked smoothly and easily.  It feels too light-weight to be stainless. Is it aluminum???

Also, the last time I serviced it was probably 5 years ago, and I found it greased when I opened it, so I regreased it.  This time the grease has some water in it, with a little milky color, but all works smoothly and easily.  My question is whether it should have been greased.  I have read that the holes in the bottom are to let water out, and that it should be flushed regularly with fresh water. That sounds like a no-grease sçenario....maybe sailcote or other dry lubricant? I was unable to open Gary's file about servicing it.
 
What about the main Furler manual gearbox?  It still works and I've never serviced it, but I'm way overdue to do that and now am concerned about the foil shearing after 20 years.  Again, should it be greased, or not?

Will be in Martinique in about 2 weeks.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SN243
 


𝘼𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙜𝙪𝙖 𝙧𝙚𝙛𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙡𝙨: 𝘾𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙬𝙖𝙮 𝘿𝙤𝙤𝙧 𝙑𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙧, 𝘼𝙢𝙚𝙡 54 𝘽𝙤𝙬 𝙏𝙝𝙧𝙪𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙧𝙚𝙥𝙖𝙞𝙧, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙀𝙡𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙣

 

Recently, I was in Antigua with a client and Amel 54 owner that many of you know. Antigua's Jolly Harbour is a beautiful place and the home of some special shops which I believe can help Amel owners. Here are 3 special people I met:

𝘾𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙬𝙖𝙮 𝘿𝙤𝙤𝙧 𝙑𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙧
I met Chris Waelen (Anything Wood) in Jolly Harbour Boatyard, Jolly Harbour, Antigua. Chris works wonders with anything wood. I looked him up because he replaced the veneer on the companionway door of an Amel 54 with teak veneer. Here is a photo:

The turnkey price is $300 US. I just added Chris to the Preferred Vendors of Amel Owners Yacht School. Contact Information: Anything Wood Boat Builder, chriswaelen@...,  +1 268-726-1690

𝘼𝙢𝙚𝙡 54 𝘽𝙤𝙬 𝙏𝙝𝙧𝙪𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙧𝙚𝙥𝙖𝙞𝙧
I also met David Walter (Multi Task Marine Services). This guy knows Side Power thrusters. He can also perform magic on anything mechanical. I watched him perfectly repair a Calpeda AC pump. He replaced parts, rubber mounts and repainted the pump. It operated like new and looked new. Contact information: Multi Task Marine Service tarzan750africa@... +1 268-773-8976

𝙀𝙡𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙣
I also met Wayne Bell (Coast to Coast Marine Service). What a pleasure it was. Wayne is an electrician who has a knack with marine electronics. Contact information: Wayne Bell <wayneb@...> +1 268-764-3033

I hope this helps those in need. 

Stay safe and stay well. 
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Re: New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io

karkauai
 

I just had two teeth on the gear attached to the horizontal winch-handle shaft break off.   No warning as it has always worked smoothly and easily.  It feels too light-weight to be stainless. Is it aluminum???

Also, the last time I serviced it was probably 5 years ago, and I found it greased when I opened it, so I regreased it.  This time the grease has some water in it, with a little milky color, but all works smoothly and easily.  My question is whether it should have been greased.  I have read that the holes in the bottom are to let water out, and that it should be flushed regularly with fresh water. That sounds like a no-grease sçenario....maybe sailcote or other dry lubricant? I was unable to open Gary's file about servicing it.
 
What about the main Furler manual gearbox?  It still works and I've never serviced it, but I'm way overdue to do that and now am concerned about the foil shearing after 20 years.  Again, should it be greased, or not?

Will be in Martinique in about 2 weeks.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SN243
 


There is NO restrictions for boats to come to Sint Maarten.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

An Amel owner just asked me if boats were still allowed to go to Sint Maarten, so I went to Immigration and ask.  


Only incoming “commercial” flights from the US, UK and EU are canceled as well as cruise ship.  


Private jets & boats are still allowed to come to the island, “REGARDLESS” of where they are coming from. 


Which is not the case for Turks & Caicos as a friend of mine (non-Amel owner) was denied access since he came from Dominican Republic.  


Hope that helps.  

Alexandre


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

Joerg Esdorn
 

In my experience, the nut is very tight at all times so turning "until tight" doesn't necessarily work.  You don't want to over tighten this because it will shorten the period to a complete repacking of the gland.  I would try 1/6 turn first or maybe 2/6 if you have a lot of water.  I had a little bit of water in 2018 (less than 0.1 liters) and tightened it by 1/6.  At the end of 2019, I again had a little water (again less than 0.1 liters) and tightened it again by 1/6.  We'll see how it goes by the end of this season (crossing my fingers there will be a season ....).  


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

 

Use the Amel-supplied wrench and turn the plastic nut 1/6th of a turn or more until tight. I have been on a 55 that required 1/2 turn, but it is usually 1/6th.

On all but the first 55s, Amel installed a high water alarm for this water-tight box. Be sure that it works and your batteries are fresh. If you do not have a water alarm installed, install one.

I note that your 55 #009 has cable steering from the helm rather than hydraulic steering. Joerg has hydraulic steering from the helm. This is one of the reasons for the differences.

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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:33 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

You need to remove the plate circled in red.  You will then have access to a large plastic nut which can be tightened clockwise in 1/6 revolution increments.  AMEL provides a large custom wrench to turn this nut but you could likely use an adjustable wrench as well.  


joerg Esdorn 
A55 #53 Kincsem


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

Stuart Hemingway
 

Thank you Jorg

Stuart 



On 16 Mar 2020, at 08:33, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

You need to remove the plate circled in red.  You will then have access to a large plastic nut which can be tightened clockwise in 1/6 revolution increments.  AMEL provides a large custom wrench to turn this nut but you could likely use an adjustable wrench as well.  


joerg Esdorn 
A55 #53 Kincsem<IMG_1141.jpg>


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Joerg Esdorn
 

I have purchased an Echopilot 2D and now the question is where to install it. Amel advises it needs to be installed 1.5 m away from the sonic speed transducer.  They are suggesting 1.5 m forward of that which would put it very far forward in a place where it may come out of the water and contrary to the instructions from Echopilot.  For those who have it installed, where is it installed on your boat?  


Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
Vigo, Spain


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

Joerg Esdorn
 

You need to remove the plate circled in red.  You will then have access to a large plastic nut which can be tightened clockwise in 1/6 revolution increments.  AMEL provides a large custom wrench to turn this nut but you could likely use an adjustable wrench as well.  


joerg Esdorn 
A55 #53 Kincsem


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

Stuart Hemingway
 

Yes that’s correct Bill,
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Regards ,

Stuart

Stuart Hemingway 




On 16 Mar 2020, at 07:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Are you referring to the rudder post packing inside the water-tight steering, autopilot, and quadrant compartment?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 6:10 AM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:
Does anyone have a diagram , is there a stuffing box , or tightening gland and can this be tightened with the boat in the water?
Stuart Hemingway 


Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

 

Are you referring to the rudder post packing inside the water-tight steering, autopilot, and quadrant compartment?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 6:10 AM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:
Does anyone have a diagram , is there a stuffing box , or tightening gland and can this be tightened with the boat in the water?
Stuart Hemingway 


Beam IV : A55 ; Shelter Bay , rudder assembly

Stuart Hemingway
 

Does anyone have a diagram , is there a stuffing box , or tightening gland and can this be tightened with the boat in the water?
Stuart Hemingway 


Re: Bow thruster oil seal leak

Peter de Groot
 

Thank you Bill and Giovanni,

Bill, RTV was used, I just did a good job wiping off the excess. The leak is between the shaft and the lip of seal not seal to housing. I agree that we need SAV at Amel.  I actually sent SAV an inquiry earlier today. I always like to be prepared with contingencies and choices.

 

Giovanni,

I agree, a little water in the oil is OK, but this leak is too much.

 

Cheers,

Peter

La Querida SM 207

Moss Landing, California


Re: Radar

Aras
 

I went with B&G 4G for just that reason.  Power.   I just got rid of my Furuno.   Wasn't worth anything
Aras 
Sharki #163 1988

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 2:05 PM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Hello!
Planning to install a Raymarine Quantum radar. We have an very excellent Furuno radar but it draws a lot of AMPS. I have seen that some of you have both the old and the new radar installed. My question should I keep the old radar or retire it? It is 20 years old and risk for it to break down soon?, I can use the old Radar mount and save maybe 500 € by take away the old radar and it will free space above my chart table. Any thoughts on this? you who have two radars the old and a new how often do you use the old one?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 


Re: Radar

Arnold Mente
 

Hello Paul,
I have both from FURUNO and I am very satisfied with it. The digital radar on both MFD12 and the old one in navigation. I use the digital at night and, if necessary, the analog for control purposes. When driving close to the coast I use the analogue so the alarm settings of the digital one do not always have to be changed. Furthermore, it is a wonderful backup should the digital fail.

Best
Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 15.03.2020 um 19:05 schrieb Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>:

Hello!
Planning to install a Raymarine Quantum radar. We have an very excellent Furuno radar but it draws a lot of AMPS. I have seen that some of you have both the old and the new radar installed. My question should I keep the old radar or retire it? It is 20 years old and risk for it to break down soon?, I can use the old Radar mount and save maybe 500 € by take away the old radar and it will free space above my chart table. Any thoughts on this? you who have two radars the old and a new how often do you use the old one?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 

Arnold Mente

Urbaniweg 12
7000 Eisenstadt 

Tel: +43 660 6699019

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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: Cockpit Loud spekers

mr_hermanns
 

I just put these in my SM - THEY ARE AMAZING!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P0R6GQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Was shocked at the range, and how well it uses the cabinet behind to resonate.

--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA


Radar

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!
Planning to install a Raymarine Quantum radar. We have an very excellent Furuno radar but it draws a lot of AMPS. I have seen that some of you have both the old and the new radar installed. My question should I keep the old radar or retire it? It is 20 years old and risk for it to break down soon?, I can use the old Radar mount and save maybe 500 € by take away the old radar and it will free space above my chart table. Any thoughts on this? you who have two radars the old and a new how often do you use the old one?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 


Re: Bow thruster oil seal leak

Giovanni TESTA
 

HI,

This my experience with Eutikia,from 2004, sailing around the world.

When I have the boat on the hard, once a year, I always remove the bow thruster foot.

So I replace the seal and , every 2 years, the 2 outside black neoprene disks, as well.

You may have different seals but always ,sooner or later, you have water inside the box.

Any way,  I never had damages because of it. When I change the oil/water, I leave the tube inverted, up down, for a while to empty it. No problem.

Than I add the new oil , the seal and the 2 new black neoprene disks.

Only a very important suggestion: always clean and than add silicon grease inside the bottom engine body before  inserting the black column. There’s a steel circular clip very fragile ! I broke it before Panama Canale, it was a big mess!

Obviously first follow Bill suggestions.

All the best

Giovanni Test

Sv EUTIKIA SM2K n 428



Il 15/03/2020 18:08, Peter de Groot ha scritto:


Greetings all,
This is the second lip seal I've installed.  (The previous owner left a handy stash of parts on board) The first had a single lip, the second came in a bag with Paulstra brand and part number 792521 IEL 30 42 7.  I'm deducing it came from Amel.  It had two lips, a heavier one inwards to retain the oil and a lighter one outwards nearer the outside surface.
Regardless they both leaked after installing.
The surface of the shaft which is not SS (FRP maybe??) feels rough, and there was only a narrow band where it feels smoother.  
The oil that came out was cloudy green, thick like a milk shake, so I'm thinking water was entering.
The question is what to do.  I'm contemplating 3 choices:
-Purchase a new shaft from Amel, perhaps a new complete bow thruster, as the counterbore to receive the seal also has some chips.
-Find a SS speedi-sleeve to provide a smoother surface, machine existing shaft if necessary.
-Make a new shaft with a local machine shop.  In which case which material?  Acetal perhaps, I'm assuming stainless is a no-go.

I'd appreciate any advice if any of you have experienced the same problem.  

Peter de Groot
SM 207 la Querida
Moss Landing, California.