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Re: Membrane Tube end caps

 

Courtney,

These are good, but since the choices have already been put to members in a Poll, I'll save these for the next time. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:03 PM Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
What weather routing and forecasting do you use and why?
What charts (navigation tools) do you use ?


On Apr 20, 2020, at 2:51 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

FYI, Dessalator originally made the membrane tube end caps out of white nylon. Emek copied Dessalator. Dessalator's choice of Nylon proved to be the wrong choice. Dessalator later made end caps from a harder material which was black. I am not sure of what the black material is, but, in my experience is that there have been very few issues with the Dessalator black end caps.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: 𝗭𝗢𝗢𝗠 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

I'd like to be included as well.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Switch on Bilge Float Tube

Ian Townsend
 

Gracias Diego. I think this must be an old high water alarm and will be removing it. If I find it is something different then I will post on the forum. 

I installed a separate system next to the AC pump last year (per Bill Rouse's photo). 


Ian
Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, FL

On Apr 21, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki <diegodemiguelmurillo@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Ian,

I also had problems with that system in my Sharki.
At present I am testing a new tech from one of my tech partners. It is an optical based on diodes.
I have installed 2 optical sensors into the bilge. One is for activeting the pump Instaled in the lower part of the bilge) and the other one is for the alarm (instaled at half part of the bilge)
You can see the system in this video. I speak in spanish. promise to add english subtitles soon :-)
If you are interested I can send  you technical and commercial information.


All the best

Diego de Miguel
Sailing Living Lab

ACROBAT II, Sharki 52


Re: Switch on Bilge Float Tube

Diego de Miguel (Sailing Living Lab) Amel Sharki
 
Edited

Hello Ian,

I also had problems with that system in my Sharki.
At present I am testing a new tech from one of my tech partners. It is an optical based on diodes.
I have installed 2 optical sensors into the bilge. One is for activeting the pump Instaled in the lower part of the bilge) and the other one is for the alarm (instaled at half part of the bilge)
You can see the system in this video. I speak in spanish. promise to add english subtitles soon :-)
If you are interested I can send  you technical and commercial information.


All the best

Diego de Miguel
Sailing Living Lab

ACROBAT II, Sharki 52


Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Courtney Gorman
 

What weather routing and forecasting do you use and why?
What charts (navigation tools) do you use ?


On Apr 20, 2020, at 2:51 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

FYI, Dessalator originally made the membrane tube end caps out of white nylon. Emek copied Dessalator. Dessalator's choice of Nylon proved to be the wrong choice. Dessalator later made end caps from a harder material which was black. I am not sure of what the black material is, but, in my experience is that there have been very few issues with the Dessalator black end caps.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Arno,

If I keep responding like this people may think I am an "expert". I am not. Just been around for a while. Puzzled by the issues with the end caps. Mine have certainly never gone soft nor caused problems (see my previous post). As to removing them there have been a number of innovative suggestions on the forum. The best I have tried is to take a about 1,5 m to 2 m of cord. Dyneema is good, no stretch. Double it to make a loop and secure the ends on either side of the end cap with a hose clamp. Place the loop over the winch on the side of the mizzen. Holding the membrane tube in both hands with the cord slack, tug sharply. Works a treat. Last tip. As you disassemble the unit carefully mark all parts to enable correct reassembly. Saves the OH s...... moments

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 21 April 2020 at 09:33 Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

I find the endcaps extremely poorly designed and made in such a way that removal because a needlessly complicated struggle. Even the black ones are silly expensive and prone to deterioration over time. The plastic becomes soft at the inside where it's exposed to salt water.

I'm sure there must be better designs for this.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
 


Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Kevin and Danny,

Not hot for anything Dessalator; long bad story!

I have new end caps waiting for me.  Now, if I could find rust proof interconnects, I’d be in heaven…

:-)

Getting there slowly 

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Opua, NZ



On 21 Apr 2020, at 14:00, Kevin Cole <jkcsail@...> wrote:

Hi all,
We had the problem of corrosion on the membrane tubes last year with exploded end caps and frame. I had called around with little help and happened to find any tubes I could find. I found that any water maker manufacturer that offered stand alone tubes works. We found some from Village Marine. Plumbing is basically the same, water in water out. Easy to do.
Kevin Cole
SV Anahita
SM2 # 276
Currently standing by on our second boat in Sausalito CA GB32 "Bout time"

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:20 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi JP, have you tried the desalator agents in Auckland NZ.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 21 April 2020 at 06:55 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks.  I also took the entire holder to the shop… to verify the interior measurements.  I suspect the new ones will be made to a closer tolerance.

Dessalator after sales service has been non existent. 

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain



On 21 Apr 2020, at 06:51, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

FYI, Dessalator originally made the membrane tube end caps out of white nylon. Emek copied Dessalator. Dessalator's choice of Nylon proved to be the wrong choice. Dessalator later made end caps from a harder material which was black. I am not sure of what the black material is, but, in my experience is that there have been very few issues with the Dessalator black end caps.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


 


 





Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Kevin Cole
 

Hi all,
We had the problem of corrosion on the membrane tubes last year with exploded end caps and frame. I had called around with little help and happened to find any tubes I could find. I found that any water maker manufacturer that offered stand alone tubes works. We found some from Village Marine. Plumbing is basically the same, water in water out. Easy to do.
Kevin Cole
SV Anahita
SM2 # 276
Currently standing by on our second boat in Sausalito CA GB32 "Bout time"

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:20 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi JP, have you tried the desalator agents in Auckland NZ.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 21 April 2020 at 06:55 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks.  I also took the entire holder to the shop… to verify the interior measurements.  I suspect the new ones will be made to a closer tolerance.

Dessalator after sales service has been non existent. 

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain



On 21 Apr 2020, at 06:51, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

FYI, Dessalator originally made the membrane tube end caps out of white nylon. Emek copied Dessalator. Dessalator's choice of Nylon proved to be the wrong choice. Dessalator later made end caps from a harder material which was black. I am not sure of what the black material is, but, in my experience is that there have been very few issues with the Dessalator black end caps.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


 


 


Re: ZOOM Meeting Technical Questions: #ZOOM

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Danny,

We know where you hide and fully intend to visit when lock down ends.  

Regarding the Duo 60/100, I’ve had exactly your experience but still end up with rusted interconnects, leaks at the end caps, rust on the HP lines although they are SS dairy industry high pressure units.

I got the new end caps made through Ocean System, a well known designer/builder of desalination plants.

I hope to clear up all my problems within the next 2 weeks.

Kind Regards,

Julie and JP, aboard SY Eleuthera, SM007, Opua, NZ

Jean-Pierre Germain



On 21 Apr 2020, at 13:19, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi JP.

locked down a day sail North of you but in my home on the shores of Mill Bay Mangonui.

We have the duo 60 We had one end cap split where the joining tube between the end caps enters but the 0 ring still did its job and we didn't get a spray of water. I discovered the split when changing membranes. For simplicity I took the cap to a local NZ machine shop, he identified the material and made me a new one. Having said all that we have had no leak problems and believe with careful placement of the correct size 0 rings in all situations (To be sure of size  I get mine from desalator) and judicious tensioning  of the through bolts ensuring even tightness I doubt you should have a problem. Wrong 0 rings and or unequal tension and there may well be issues. The through bolts do not need to be particularly tight, they are just holding the end caps in place, the 0 rings stop the water. When putting the end caps in care has to be taken to ensure the 0 ring doesn't ride up out of its groove. I put a large cable tie over the o ring to hold it close in until it enters.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl 

On 21 April 2020 at 06:44 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote: 

Hi Eric, 

I had a pair of white end caps made by EMEK marine and these were not good. (I discarded them after just looking at them)  But even from the factory, immediately after installation, the black ones leaked and were badly drilled out.  Dessalator refused to replace under warranty even when supplied with photos….

I took a well turned end piece to a NZ shop and had a dozen made locally; they are done but I cannot pick them up due to lockdown…. Other Amel owners participated to a small group buy.  (About 60% of Dessalator price without delivery and GST costs)

What I’m most interested in is any modifications done to the tubes, end pieces or complete replacement of the Duo 100 membrane setup to deal with too many leaks.  

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 21 Apr 2020, at 06:31, eric freedman < kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Jean-Pierre, 
Did you have white colored end caps? If you did not and have the black end caps, 
what modifications did you do to the new end caps? 
Fair Winds 
Eric 
Amel Super Maramu #376 
  
  
From:  main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Germain Jean-Pierre
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ZOOM Meeting Technical Questions: #ZOOM 
 
Hello Bill,
 
I’d like to address the subject of the Dessalator membrane holders.  I consider them under engineered, especially the end caps.  (Duo60 and Duo 100 models)
 
I’ve had a NZ shop replicate the end caps but due to Covid-19, I’ve been unable to pickup the parts and complete a change over.
 
Has anyone modified the tubes or manufactured a different type of membrane system?  
 
Kind regards,
 
 
Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand.
 
 


On 21 Apr 2020, at 05:41, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
 
For those planning to attend the ZOOM meeting, please post questions to the Topic " ZOOM meeting technical questions" by replying to this email.

Tilo Peters will likely respond to these technical questions.
 
--  
 
Best,
  
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
 
+1(832) 380-4970 
<image001.jpg>
 
 



 


 



Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi JP, have you tried the desalator agents in Auckland NZ.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 21 April 2020 at 06:55 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks.  I also took the entire holder to the shop… to verify the interior measurements.  I suspect the new ones will be made to a closer tolerance.

Dessalator after sales service has been non existent. 

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain



On 21 Apr 2020, at 06:51, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

FYI, Dessalator originally made the membrane tube end caps out of white nylon. Emek copied Dessalator. Dessalator's choice of Nylon proved to be the wrong choice. Dessalator later made end caps from a harder material which was black. I am not sure of what the black material is, but, in my experience is that there have been very few issues with the Dessalator black end caps.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


 


 


Re: ZOOM Meeting Technical Questions: #ZOOM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi JP.

locked down a day sail North of you but in my home on the shores of Mill Bay Mangonui.

We have the duo 60 We had one end cap split where the joining tube between the end caps enters but the 0 ring still did its job and we didn't get a spray of water. I discovered the split when changing membranes. For simplicity I took the cap to a local NZ machine shop, he identified the material and made me a new one. Having said all that we have had no leak problems and believe with careful placement of the correct size 0 rings in all situations (To be sure of size  I get mine from desalator) and judicious tensioning  of the through bolts ensuring even tightness I doubt you should have a problem. Wrong 0 rings and or unequal tension and there may well be issues. The through bolts do not need to be particularly tight, they are just holding the end caps in place, the 0 rings stop the water. When putting the end caps in care has to be taken to ensure the 0 ring doesn't ride up out of its groove. I put a large cable tie over the o ring to hold it close in until it enters.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl 

On 21 April 2020 at 06:44 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hi Eric, 

I had a pair of white end caps made by EMEK marine and these were not good. (I discarded them after just looking at them)  But even from the factory, immediately after installation, the black ones leaked and were badly drilled out.  Dessalator refused to replace under warranty even when supplied with photos….

I took a well turned end piece to a NZ shop and had a dozen made locally; they are done but I cannot pick them up due to lockdown…. Other Amel owners participated to a small group buy.  (About 60% of Dessalator price without delivery and GST costs)

What I’m most interested in is any modifications done to the tubes, end pieces or complete replacement of the Duo 100 membrane setup to deal with too many leaks.  

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 21 Apr 2020, at 06:31, eric freedman < kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Jean-Pierre,
Did you have white colored end caps? If you did not and have the black end caps,
what modifications did you do to the new end caps?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From:  main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Germain Jean-Pierre
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ZOOM Meeting Technical Questions: #ZOOM
 
Hello Bill,
 
I’d like to address the subject of the Dessalator membrane holders.  I consider them under engineered, especially the end caps.  (Duo60 and Duo 100 models)
 
I’ve had a NZ shop replicate the end caps but due to Covid-19, I’ve been unable to pickup the parts and complete a change over.
 
Has anyone modified the tubes or manufactured a different type of membrane system?  
 
Kind regards,
 
 
Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand.
 
 


On 21 Apr 2020, at 05:41, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
 
For those planning to attend the ZOOM meeting, please post questions to the Topic " ZOOM meeting technical questions" by replying to this email.

Tilo Peters will likely respond to these technical questions.

--  
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970
<image001.jpg>
 

 




 


 


Re: Excessive usage of water maker membranes

Thomas Peacock
 

She is at Club Nautico in San Juan. I will be flying down as soon as I can be sure that I won’t have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine at the airport hotel. Even though there’s more square feet in most hotel rooms than on a Super Maramu, I think I would go certifiably nuts in a hotel.

On Apr 20, 2020, at 8:04 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,
Do you have any Idea when you will attempt to get back to your boat? Where  is she?
I might be flying into STT to get to SXM.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Peacock
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:36 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Excessive usage of water maker membranes
 
Hi Eric,
 
No idea. Need to be on more intimate terms with the governor. I heard today from the dockmaster in the marina where Aletes is that a captain of a mega yacht flew in, told the authorities that he was going to quarantine on his boat. They told him no way, and he is now spending 14 days at the airport hotel. Not what he had planned.


On Apr 19, 2020, at 8:50 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
 
Hi Tom,
Have you heard when they are lifting the quarantine on puerti Rico?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Peacock
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Excessive usage of water maker membranes
 
My only thought is like others, make certain that there is no chlorine. Obviously, there shouldn’t be if all you do is make RO water. Do you ever put water in the tank from the marina? We often have both RO and shore water, tough to tell how much chlorine, although you can buy test strips. I will sometimes flush with a couple of gallons of RO water drawn from the control panel tap, rather than flush with water from the tank.
 
 
This details some of what can go wrong, including post-mortem pictures. Interestingly, there are several causes for physical damage to the membranes (as opposed to chemical) that might have some bearing on your issue.
 
Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes, San Juan PR
Waiting to fly back down to PR next month
 
On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
 
I need a little help with water maker usage and maintenance, please.
 
Cream Puff has a 24v D60 water-maker. My problem is we seem to be going through membranes at the rate of a pair a year. I have read where others have used the same set of membranes for years and still get drinkable water. This is not the case with us. We are in our 5th year of full time cruising and are now on our 6th set of membranes. 
 
When I last change membranes in Colombia, this was about March 2019. Our current membranes are just over a year old. The PPMs are starting to creep up a bit now and we have gone from the 300 range to the 500 range. We notice a change in drinking quality over 600 PPMs. This is when we usually change the membranes. 
 
We run the water-maker at least once a week when in a marina, flush it with the fresh water rinse. I have a double charcoal filter set up for the tank rinse. When on anchor it is run just about every day. I am careful to watch the pressure and water making float gauge. I normally set it at 55 liters per hour and this put the pressure in lower side of the green range. 
 
Any ideas why our membranes are not lasting or why our PPMs creep up? 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 
 
 



Re: Excessive usage of water maker membranes

eric freedman
 

Hi Tom,

Do you have any Idea when you will attempt to get back to your boat? Where  is she?

I might be flying into STT to get to SXM.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Peacock
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:36 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Excessive usage of water maker membranes

 

Hi Eric,

 

No idea. Need to be on more intimate terms with the governor. I heard today from the dockmaster in the marina where Aletes is that a captain of a mega yacht flew in, told the authorities that he was going to quarantine on his boat. They told him no way, and he is now spending 14 days at the airport hotel. Not what he had planned.



On Apr 19, 2020, at 8:50 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

Have you heard when they are lifting the quarantine on puerti Rico?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Peacock
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Excessive usage of water maker membranes

 

My only thought is like others, make certain that there is no chlorine. Obviously, there shouldn’t be if all you do is make RO water. Do you ever put water in the tank from the marina? We often have both RO and shore water, tough to tell how much chlorine, although you can buy test strips. I will sometimes flush with a couple of gallons of RO water drawn from the control panel tap, rather than flush with water from the tank.

 

 

This details some of what can go wrong, including post-mortem pictures. Interestingly, there are several causes for physical damage to the membranes (as opposed to chemical) that might have some bearing on your issue.

 

Tom Peacock

SM 240 Aletes, San Juan PR

Waiting to fly back down to PR next month

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

I need a little help with water maker usage and maintenance, please.

 

Cream Puff has a 24v D60 water-maker. My problem is we seem to be going through membranes at the rate of a pair a year. I have read where others have used the same set of membranes for years and still get drinkable water. This is not the case with us. We are in our 5th year of full time cruising and are now on our 6th set of membranes. 

 

When I last change membranes in Colombia, this was about March 2019. Our current membranes are just over a year old. The PPMs are starting to creep up a bit now and we have gone from the 300 range to the 500 range. We notice a change in drinking quality over 600 PPMs. This is when we usually change the membranes. 

 

We run the water-maker at least once a week when in a marina, flush it with the fresh water rinse. I have a double charcoal filter set up for the tank rinse. When on anchor it is run just about every day. I am careful to watch the pressure and water making float gauge. I normally set it at 55 liters per hour and this put the pressure in lower side of the green range. 

 

Any ideas why our membranes are not lasting or why our PPMs creep up? 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

 

 


Re: ZOOM Meeting of Members #ZOOM #poll

Dean Gillies
 

Time zone.

I now see that the meeting is at 2100 local time (BST) in the UK rather than 2000. The Eastern Australia local time of 0600 is therefore correct.
Apologies for any confusion that my confusion may have generated :-)

Dean



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Re: Membrane Tube end caps

Arno Luijten
 

I find the endcaps extremely poorly designed and made in such a way that removal because a needlessly complicated struggle. Even the black ones are silly expensive and prone to deterioration over time. The plastic becomes soft at the inside where it's exposed to salt water.

I'm sure there must be better designs for this.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
 


Re: Switch on Bilge Float Tube

 

You might need to update. I sent you a private email.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:31 PM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

When cleaning our bilge, we noticed the cap had come off of this (see pictures). It is attached to the tube that houses the bilge float and appears to be a switch. But I am not really sure what this is. It's not our float switch. We have the standard version of that. But maybe it's an old high water alarm with relay to the bilge pump? Can someone enlighten me? I need to source or to fabricate parts to cover it properly. The parts that remain are a plastic disc shape cap that used to be attached to something rubber that is either a membrane or a seal, and a piece of a metal gasket. 

Pictures attached.








Ian Townsend
SM153
Loca Lola II
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: Where to put the life raft

Teun BAAS
 

When replacing my OEM 8 person raft last year I was told similar; you don’t want a life raft much larger than the expected occupancy. Having 2 people in an 8 persons raft makes it also vulnerable to being blown/turned upside down in which case you will never be able to right it again in heavy sea: thus virtually impossible to survive as the top of the life raft can NOT function as a solid bottom.

 

So I got a new 4 person life raft to replace the 8 person ZODIAC. Also – since ZODIA was no longer produced/available & all replacements were deeper it necessitated a welding adjustment to the cradle in the rail.  

 

Best Regards Teun

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 13:10
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Where to put the life raft

 

For what it's worth, I was talking to a coast guard guy about rafts recently. I was about to replace my 6 person zodiac with another 6 person raft. He cautioned that most bail out injuries happen after you're in the raft getting thrown around. He said 2 people in a 4 person raft was probably safer as you tend not to be propelled from one side to the other. It's also lighter obviously when deploying it.

Thomas Kleman
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: ZOOM Meeting of Members #ZOOM #poll

 

Dean,

You are correct if we were going to do this at 2000 UK time, but we are scheduled to do this at 2000 GMT. My table originally had UK and GMT on the same row. That is corrected below:

Country

GMT +/-

Scheduled Time

Scheduled Date

 

(GMT)

0

2000

4/25/2020

 

UK Summer Time

100

2100

4/25/2020

 

NZ

1200

800

4/26/2020

 

AU Queensland

1000

600

4/26/2020

 

Tahiti

-1000

1000

4/25/2020

 

USA West

-700

1300

4/25/2020

 

USA East

-400

1600

4/25/2020

 

USA Central

-600

1400

4/25/2020

 

Martinique

-400

1600

4/25/2020

 

Germany

200

2200

4/25/2020

 

Central EUSummer Time

200

2200

4/25/2020

 

Note: The above was checked with: https://greenwichmeantime.com/time-gadgets/time-zone-converter/

 
 
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Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Where to put the life raft

Thomas Kleman
 

For what it's worth, I was talking to a coast guard guy about rafts recently. I was about to replace my 6 person zodiac with another 6 person raft. He cautioned that most bail out injuries happen after you're in the raft getting thrown around. He said 2 people in a 4 person raft was probably safer as you tend not to be propelled from one side to the other. It's also lighter obviously when deploying it.

Thomas Kleman
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: ZOOM Meeting of Members #ZOOM #poll

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Bill,

Please include me in the meeting. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii