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Re: Volvo oil pressure
Paul - this is a very common problem solved with an inexpensive (<$20) replacement of the differential girdle spring on the upper end of the grammeter. A very easy do-it-yourself project.
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Hi Arno,
Bedankt voor de hulp. Ik zie dat je nog steeds hard bezig bent met LUNA – ze moet nu bijna perfekt zijn. Ik voel me bijna schuldig dat ik niet zoveel doe voor AMELIT 😊
Wow – 10 leaks. Clearly I must check better when back on board. As mentioned above in Dutch; you make me feel guilty that I am not caring for AMELIT as meticulously as you do with LUNA.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 13:28 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sail Plan - Super Maramu
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Yup; I recognize those. I have those installed as well extras on board. Are these HARKEN switches?
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:54 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Maybe this will help:
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Hi Roque,
Thanks - this helps a lot. I don’t recognize the switches in your attachments so that indicates that my switches also have been replaced. That matches my impression of the original owner that he wanted everything to be in order/perfect/the best but regrettably also meant several unnecessary NON OEM (AMEL) equipment changes.
But I will verify when I make it back to the boat.
Thanks again.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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On Behalf Of Roque via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 13:49 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Teun
If I may jump in, attached are pictures of the "old" switches, the ones that must be replaced.
The new ones are bigger (see Bill's pic). They need a 43 mm diameter hole. Maybe you can check the diameter of yours from below.
Also, Amel keeps track of the boats that have already been updated. So Bill's advice to call them is right and on the safe side.
The letter informing about the recall is from 2011, so maybe all A54 are eligible. By that time, the replacement set was probably Lewmar, as far as I know. But according to Maud, Amel no longer have a partnership with Lewmar. So it is Harken now.
Roque Attika A54 # 117 Paraty- Brazil
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
I did all my switches in 2016 after I bought the boat in 2015. The switches that Bill shows the photo of is correct. I was in Marseille and Amel Hyeres would have done the change at no charge. I decided to do it myself and Amel Hyeres sent me everything, drill bit to make the joke bigger, wood position block to drill the hole, electrical connectors and sealant.
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No leaks and no problems with the new switches. They actually did not have any records that my 54 had not been done. Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17. Build date 2005 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
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Re: Volvo oil pressure
amelforme
Paul, a bit more information is needed to give you some help. How many hours are on the engine now? How many hours are on the oil in the crankcase now? Did you get maintenance logs at the purchase that showed good habits regarding regular oil changes? What were the months and hour intervals if so? Did this problem started immediately after a new oil filter and fresh engine oil were installed? Or was it several hours or days later? Testing with a mechanical/non-electric oil pressure gauge confirmed that what you were reading from the helm mounted instrumentation was correct ? Did oil pressure increase with higher engine RPM in a linear pattern, not increase at all or very little, or immediately increase by a great deal? This is very important to know. Does the engine burn more than a liter of oil in 50 hours of running time? Did the Volvo dealer immediately suggest engine removal with out any other testing? Did anyone suggest that you have a spectrographic engine oil analysis performed ? Do a web search on this. Not expensive and extremely telling about the engines internal mechanical condition. Slowly decreasing oil pressure is most often an indication of internal engine wear that increases/opens the tolerances/gaps between components like bearings and bearing journals. I will await and respond to your answers but I would strongly suggest changing the engine oil filter and if nothing changes then obtaining a spectrographic engine oil analysis before the engine is removed. The oil analysis will, for sure, tell you plenty about the engines’ relative health. Much the same as getting your blood work done before a visit to your medical practitioner.
All The best, Joel
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd an d Sharon Brown
Hi all,
I have a Volvo D3-110i-C with low oil pressure. I’m told by the local Volvo dealer that the engine will have to be taken out in order to replace the oil pump. I’m wondering what other factor may cause low oil pressure. Any opinion on this would be most welcome.
A bit of history on the problem. I changed the oil and oil filter after 188 engine hours which was 3 years. I then started getting low pressure warning after reducing from 1100rpm to idle. I checked the oil level and topped up to the top of the mark. After a couple of days I started getting low pressure warning whilst running at 1100rpm (to heat water). This was confirmed when the engineer attached a pressure gauge.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Roque
Teun If I may jump in, attached are pictures of the "old" switches, the ones that must be replaced.
The new ones are bigger (see Bill's pic). They need a 43 mm diameter hole. Maybe you can check the diameter of yours from below.
Also, Amel keeps track of the boats that have already been updated. So Bill's advice to call them is right and on the safe side.
The letter informing about the recall is from 2011, so maybe all A54 are eligible. By that time, the replacement set was probably Lewmar, as far as I know. But according to Maud, Amel no longer have a partnership with Lewmar. So it is Harken now. Roque Attika A54 # 117 Paraty- Brazil Em qua., 29 de abr. de 2020 às 16:54, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Yeah, Luna has the weatherfax as well. So I'm guessing there is a antenna cable between the nav-station and the mizzen mast. Although the reception of this thing seems quite sketchy. The pictures I get from it are very hard to make sense of.
REgarfds Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Volvo oil pressure
James Alton
Paul,
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It is a bit curious that this problem arose after your oil change. I wonder if the viscosity of the oil that was used for the change was lower than the original oil in the engine before the change? Maybe you bought the correct oil the oil added was mislabeled or thinner than indicated? Maybe try another oil change, possibly with a different respected brand to eliminate that variable. Cooling issues could also cause lower oil pressure by thinning the oil, does the engine seem to be warmer than normal? Oil pressure relief valves can stick freeze closed due to corrosion if moisture gets into the oil pan, I have personal experience with that one. I have never seen one stick open which could cause low oil pressure but maybe.. Did your engineer record normal oil pressure with the engine warm and the RPM up to the recommended level? I would be more concerned about the higher rpm reading than the idle. Best of luck, James SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Hi Teun,
About the switches. As far as I know the replacement was changing the original Lewmar switches with Harken switches. Easy to see as it says so on the switch. On our Amel this was done, all switches were Harken when I bought the boat. In the meantime I've replaced all the deck switches with a completely new model from Lewmar once more because the Harken switches are having problems with water-ingress. The way the switches are made is they "sandwich" a rubber piece between a top ring and and the lower body. The rubber piece is actually the part you push on to activate the switch. However the top ring is not form-stable and becomes "wobbly". The three screws compress the rubber to the underlying switch-body. However the area between the screws after some time does not press on the rubber underneath because of the the ring loosing shape. It then allows water to enter the sailing locker. This was actually the 4th or 5th leak I repaired in the sail locker (out of 10 leaks... mostly because of failing sikaflex). See enclosed picture. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
All clear; makes sense as AMELIT does have Weather Fax.
Thanks.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA April 29, 2020 13:10:36
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On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 13:03 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Let me tell you what I know.
Amel installed insulators on the Triadic Stay so that the stay wire could be used as a Weather Fax Antenna. As far as I know, every SM and 54 had this "antenna." The coax wire terminates behind the Nav Station on an SM in a loop of extra cable and in a 54, behind the shower light fixture, unless, of course, if the first owner of the SM or 54 had Amel install a Weather Fax.
In my experience, the AM/FM antenna is on the main mast top on every "unchanged" SM and 54. It is a PVC VHF-like antenna, and in fact, when I installed an AIS transceiver and needed an antenna, I used the AM/FM radio antenna and substituted a rubber car antenna which I mounted behind the nav station cabinet. Of course, I had to change the connection plug to use the cable for my AIS.
I hope this helps.
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Now I think about it on AMELIT the SSB was connected to a special SSB antenna on the stern which broke off. Getting a new antenna from AMEL was difficult/impossible & another AMEL owner and I decided to use the starboard MIZZEN backstay.
So the triactic was definitely not used by AMEL yard for the SSB.
That leaves the question if there is indeed on an A54 a triatic aerial connection at the foot of the MIZZEN where is it for?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA April 29, 2020 13:06:59
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On Behalf Of Arno Luijten via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 12:15 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Not pretending to know anything about SSB, I was told the triatic stay is not very suitable for SSB transmissions due to its orientation.
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Let me tell you what I know. Amel installed insulators on the Triadic Stay so that the stay wire could be used as a Weather Fax Antenna. As far as I know, every SM and 54 had this "antenna." The coax wire terminates behind the Nav Station on an SM in a loop of extra cable and in a 54, behind the shower light fixture, unless, of course, if the first owner of the SM or 54 had Amel install a Weather Fax. In my experience, the AM/FM antenna is on the main mast top on every "unchanged" SM and 54. It is a PVC VHF-like antenna, and in fact, when I installed an AIS transceiver and needed an antenna, I used the AM/FM radio antenna and substituted a rubber car antenna which I mounted behind the nav station cabinet. Of course, I had to change the connection plug to use the cable for my AIS. I hope this helps.
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Maybe this will help:
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Re: Volvo oil pressure
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Paul;
We had the same issue about a couple of years ago. For us, it ended up being a bad pressure switch. This is basically an on-off switch with a minimum set pressure in the switch. If the pressure is below this threshold, you will get a low pressure warning. To ensure this is not the problem, you can remove the pressure switch and attach an oil pressure gauge where the pressure switch was removed. Then you can confirm the actual oil pressure. As I recall, if the oil pressure remains at or above 1 bar at idle, the issue it the pressure switch.
If you do find this to be an issue, you have to order the oil pressure switch from Volvo France that has actually performed the ground isolation on these engines. If you order from your serial number at a Volvo dealer/supplier, like we initially did, you will receive a single wire non-isolated pressure switch.
On an unrelated issue, we do replace the oil and filter annually, regardless of the number of hours used during the year.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:21 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure
Hi all,
I have a Volvo D3-110i-C with low oil pressure. I’m told by the local Volvo dealer that the engine will have to be taken out in order to replace the oil pump. I’m wondering what other factor may cause low oil pressure. Any opinion on this would be most welcome.
A bit of history on the problem. I changed the oil and oil filter after 188 engine hours which was 3 years. I then started getting low pressure warning after reducing from 1100rpm to idle. I checked the oil level and topped up to the top of the mark. After a couple of days I started getting low pressure warning whilst running at 1100rpm (to heat water). This was confirmed when the engineer attached a pressure gauge.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Not pretending to know anything about SSB, I was told the triatic stay is not very suitable for SSB transmissions due to its orientation.
Does anyone know where the antenna for the AM/FM radio lives? Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Volvo oil pressure
Actually the pressure regulation is not in the oilfilter. It sits at the bottom of the block in the the housing of the oil cooler as far as I can see on the drawing. This regulator may be stuck. Can't say if this can be replaced in-situ.
What kind of hours does the engine have? Oil pump failure is not very common. The pump itself has a safety valve as well to protect it against over-pressure. That could be stuck as well. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Volvo oil pressure
Defective pressure relief valve in the oil filter?
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Too coincidental that the problem started after an oil change. Try changing filters. ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
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Re: Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Thanks Oliver for reply.
So in that case can I assume that when AMEL yard delivered my boat with the ICOM IC-802 installed this antenna was OEM connected?
Best Regards Teun April 29, 2020 11:49:55
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On Behalf Of Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:46 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cable feed into Main and Mizzen masts on a A54
Hello,
Yes the antenna wire did blind end behind the master shower lamp. The Antenna was not used with the original Furuno SSB Radio. When I installed my ICOM IC-802 I needed to extend and route the antenna wire to the navseat.
That was on my boat that way build #39.
Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54#39 Martinique
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Re: Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Correction
Should read: “AMEL paid for the cost”.
Apologies
Best Regards Teun April 29, 2020 11:48:01.
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On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:45 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sail Plan - Super Maramu
Is there a way to tell the difference between the original/recall switch and the new/replacement switch? I understand from other A54 owners that AMEL sent the replacement switches and the owners would arrange the replacement locally (and believe also paid for the cost to reinstall).
I have several of these switches on board but cannot tell whether they are new/replacement or the “recall/replaced” switches which I should get off the boat. I don’t like keeping “non-functional” parts on the boat but previous owner had a different approach. For me it works or doesn’t work and if I want to “recycle/repair” I better do it promptly and not “down the road”.
Best Regards Teun April 29, 2020 11:44:24
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On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Paul,
You should ask Amel. SAV"at"amel.fr
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