Date   

Re: [Amel] Re: Downwind System

Ivan Campbell <i-campbell@...>
 

Hi Bill and Judy



I have just come across your instructions for using the downwind rig. The
sheet you mention removing from the sheetcar is this the genoa sheet or is a
different sheet rigged for the ballooner? If it is a different sheet can
someone let me know the approx. length since there isn't one on my Santorin.



Thanks



Ivan Campbell



Ocean Hobo

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: 15 December 2008 15:25
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Downwind System



Jeff,

The book adequately describes what to do and it takes doing it several
times before you will feel comfortable. For a portion of our sail
from Isla Margarita to Bonaire on our way to Cartagena we had the dual
headsails rigged and achieved 12kts with the wind directly behind us.
Although we had owned BeBe for some time we discovered that the GPS
had a high speed alarm and it was set for 11.5kts! On a passage from
Bora Bora to Tonga we experienced a dead-downwind sail with the dual
headsails rigged for 5 days without touching a sheet and without
dropping below 7.5kts. We arrived a day before other who were unable
to sail dead downwind.

We almost always rig both poles before long passages. The long pole
has a hook which hooks on the stainless life rail. To keep the pole
from scratching the life rail we cut a 12" piece of a swimming noodle
and sliced it so that it snaps over the life rail and fits between the
life rail and the pole when the pole is hanging on the life rail.

To use the poles (2 crew member process), rig them per the book then:
1.) remove the sheet from the sheet car and run it outside all of the
pole lines back to the large sheet block securing the bitter end to
the sheet winch.
2.) one person unhooks the pole from the life rail as the other raises
the pole about 18" cleating the up guy to its winch on the mast
3.) one person pulls the blue line while the other person pushes the
pole outward.
4.) the person who pulled the blue line now cleats it to the deck cleat.
5.) now raise the pole to its final position by winching the up guy
until the pole is horizontal and all of the pole lines will tighten if
you cleated them at the marked spots in the first place.
6.) pull the slack out of the sheet and rig and cleat the sheet for
use on the sheet winch.
7.) set the sail to about 1 meter from the end of the pole.
9.) enjoy

It gets much easier as you repeat the process.

If you are at Club Nautico please say hello to John and Alberto.

Best,

Bill & Judy
s/v BeBe #387 SM2 #387
svbebe "at" gmail.com
currently Auckland, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "rapp.jeffrey"
<rapp.jeffrey@...> wrote:

We have owned "Antares" SM2K 378, for about a year, so we are relative
newbies(we did own a Maramu 48 20 years ago, but she was a simpler
boat). I am embarrassed to admit that we have never used the downwind
system, because putting it up seems daunting.
We have received spoken instructions from Ray Eaton, and read the Amel
manual, but we are still unsure. We have also practiced putting up the
poles, but without the sails. It seems like a lot of work on deck when
out to sea.
Is anyone willing to provide detailed, step by step instructions,
designed for the relatively ignorant, from start to finish? Also, from
reading postings on other subjects, I gather some of you actually rig
the poles in advance of needing them, leaving them rigged and
presumably secured on deck somehow. If so, could you please include
instructions on this aspect of the procedure.
We are currently in Cartagena,Colombia, a wonderful town. Don't miss it.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
"Antares"


Re: [Amel] Davits and dinghy specification

RJ
 

Martin,
The dinghy model number in my message should have read 310 NOT 340. My apologies.
Richard
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: jancsi2@aol.com

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:09:12
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Davits and dinghy specification


I suggest you consider the lightest hard bottom inflatable with the lightest engine to drive it. Consider that on passages you will likely want to carry it inverted on the aft deck.
We bought a Southern Pacific Shearwater 340 which has an aluminum hull weighs under 90 lb and a 5hp motor
Franck who takes care of Amels in La Rochelle is now a dealer for these boats and I know he was very impressed with them when he fit ours to the davits on our 54.
You should definitely call and speak to him.
Sent from. Aventura off Portugal
Richard.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "luvkante" <luvkante@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:24:05
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Davits and dinghy specification


Hi all,

I am about to get a new Amel 54 next year, on which I ordered the original Amel davits.
What are the constraints and recommendations about the size, weight, dimensions and specifications about a new dinghy (and outboard) to buy. I have to mention, that the boat will have the automatic passarelle as well.
I read all the postings about davits in this group, but couldn`t develop a clear picture.
Thanks for your support!!!!

Martin


Re: Battery Charger-sm376

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

If it comes to buying a new one, Defender also sells Reya Dolphin chargers for less than Ward's http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|985|941870&id=941774

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387


US Agent/Distributor for Reya Dolphin is: (there may be others)

Ward's Marine Electric
617 SW 3rd Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33315
954.523.2815 Phone 800.545.9273 Toll Free
954.523.1967 Fax 800.297.8240 Toll Free

Let me know how they help you.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Hi,

I have a 100 and a 30 amp battery charger. The 30 amp charger puts out 27.5
volts which I believe is correct. The 100 amp charger is now putting out
almost 30 volts on dockside power and on the genset. This of course is too
high. Does anyone know how to diagnose

this problem? Do you know of an agent in the USA?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Super Maramu #376





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel] Davits and dinghy specification

RJ
 

I suggest you consider the lightest hard bottom inflatable with the lightest engine to drive it. Consider that on passages you will likely want to carry it inverted on the aft deck.
We bought a Southern Pacific Shearwater 340 which has an aluminum hull weighs under 90 lb and a 5hp motor
Franck who takes care of Amels in La Rochelle is now a dealer for these boats and I know he was very impressed with them when he fit ours to the davits on our 54.
You should definitely call and speak to him.
Sent from. Aventura off Portugal
Richard.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "luvkante" <luvkante@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:24:05
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Davits and dinghy specification


Hi all,

I am about to get a new Amel 54 next year, on which I ordered the original Amel davits.
What are the constraints and recommendations about the size, weight, dimensions and specifications about a new dinghy (and outboard) to buy. I have to mention, that the boat will have the automatic passarelle as well.
I read all the postings about davits in this group, but couldn`t develop a clear picture.
Thanks for your support!!!!

Martin


Re: Battery Charger-sm376

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

US Agent/Distributor for Reya Dolphin is: (there may be others)

Ward's Marine Electric
617 SW 3rd Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33315
954.523.2815 Phone 800.545.9273 Toll Free
954.523.1967 Fax 800.297.8240 Toll Free

Let me know how they help you.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have a 100 and a 30 amp battery charger. The 30 amp charger puts out 27.5
volts which I believe is correct. The 100 amp charger is now putting out
almost 30 volts on dockside power and on the genset. This of course is too
high. Does anyone know how to diagnose

this problem? Do you know of an agent in the USA?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Super Maramu #376







Battery Charger-sm376

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

I have a 100 and a 30 amp battery charger. The 30 amp charger puts out 27.5
volts which I believe is correct. The 100 amp charger is now putting out
almost 30 volts on dockside power and on the genset. This of course is too
high. Does anyone know how to diagnose

this problem? Do you know of an agent in the USA?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Super Maramu #376


Re: [Amel] buying amel

c_fruendt
 

the Mango is a real big boat for two person, and is nicely shown in the video from mr potter. if you offer you mango in the mentioned price range let me have a private mail with some more infos.


Davits and dinghy specification

luvkante
 

Hi all,

I am about to get a new Amel 54 next year, on which I ordered the original Amel davits.
What are the constraints and recommendations about the size, weight, dimensions and specifications about a new dinghy (and outboard) to buy. I have to mention, that the boat will have the automatic passarelle as well.
I read all the postings about davits in this group, but couldn`t develop a clear picture.
Thanks for your support!!!!

Martin


Re: [Amel] buying amel

Tom Steinhoff <sytoujours@...>
 

Gotta step in and say a few words about the Mango; about 4 to 5 feet longer (depends on who is measuring) and a very similar layout to the SM. Came with very little to no extras - like not even electronics so any boat you see for sale today probably has been updated. And you are right about all the sorta old electronics, hard to keep up with the latest and we are not sure that is a bad thing. Love our boat, however it is for sale, we are getting too old to do this much longer, cheers, Bonnie and Tom Toujours

--- On Tue, 6/16/09, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] buying amel
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:37 AM








Dear all i need some advice, i follow the forum and the market since 1-2 years in respect of a Maramu, i visited some already in France and talked with owners of other boats like hallberg rassy etc. my problem is that the asked prices are sometimes so high without any renovation done in the past. I dont know the price for new Maramu arround 1990 but now they are asking for 120-180.000 USD in europe which is maybe same like the original price. I could accept such price if the boat has been renovated but most of the time they are original, old engine, 10 years old sail, rigging original or 15 years old, no osmose treatment etc and the owner really love their boat and mention that it is like new and everything is working although it is 28 years old.... very difficult to have a realistic discussion with such owners and if i tell them that i dont need all the nice ( 8 years old ) electronic they are upset.

I have sold my last nordic folkboat after 10 years also for the same price as i paid but with a new Mast, new sail, extra spinnaker, new cushions, new hatch etc

I calculating easy 30.000 EUR for decent renovation of a Maramu with a lot TLC, but engine, sails and rigging, sanitary equipment etc should be new or professional renovated . Blister protection is another costly story. So my idea is that a normal Maramu should be somewhere arround 60-70.000 EUR or 100.000 after renovation.

Am i wrong or are there so many Amel buyers outside, i trace Amels which are advertised since 2 years without any price reduction... .

Regards carsten

I will not buy a new boat but sometime i start to think if i see a 40 feet new boat for 120.000 EURo......


Re: [Amel] Hurricane Preparedness

karkauai
 

Thanks to all for your thoughts and wisdom...just the kind of thing I was hoping to get. Will prob. drop by to say Hi on the Sassafrass in July or Aug. Wish me luck with my disabled 90y/o Uncle for 10 days on the boat with only me to help him most of the time. I'll be using the bosun's chair and boom to get him on and off the boat, and a comb. of halyards off the main and mizzen to get him up & down the companionway. I also borrowed a Hoya sling from the hospital (used with a kind of crane to get patients in and out of bed), but if his core is strong enough to sit upright I think the bosun's chair will be easier and more comfortable. He is so excited about going out on the boat that it'll be worth it however much work it is.
Kent
Kristy SM243


Re: Maramu vs SM

karkauai
 

Is Golden Daze a Maramu or SM? Do you have a pic?
Thanks,
Kent
"Kristy" SM243


Re: [Amel] Round the world complete

Louise o Bengt Mårtensson <tintoamel@...>
 

Hi
Sorry we have no homepage.
Our Hull number is 451 and our homeport is Hovenaset in Sweden.
Best regards
Bengt and Louise on Tinto III


Re: Maramu vs SM

Ken & Judy <goldendaze@...>
 

In Golden Daze, Amel 192 the previous owner changed the bed to a
"L". Other than the makeup table (or whatever) it is one big bed.
We can sleep either way. Mattress flips over at the original underbed hinge
point. Works great, no disturbing wood.
kc/jg


Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM

Dave_Benjamin
 

Carsten,

The cockpit is a lot smaller on the Maramu than the SM. Not sure about Santorin since I've never seen one in person. The double in the aft stateroom works okay for us but I agree it would be nice to have a larger berth. Amel got it right with the 54, going with the centerline berth. I've seen a lot of boats that are smaller than the Maramu with a better aft stateroom.

However all boats are compromises. Best of luck in the search.

Regards,
Dave Benjamin
www.IslandPlanetSails.com

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 4:18 AM

















I also in comparison of two Amels Maramu and Santorin, actually i like the maramu because the systems are simpler, like cutlass bearing, sometimes they have normal battend sails,( no in mast furling) and not so much electrical motors. A bowthruster could be installed.



What i do not like at the Maramu is that the cockpit seems to be small especially there is only on full lenght settee where you can lay and sleep, but the starbord side is much smaller.



Also onyl a few have a real double in the aft cabin so here you might have to change the nice wood interior .



Hello Maramu owners: am i right ?



This is much better on the santorin but also more costly.




























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


I: [Amel] davits for santorin

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

dear all,
does anybody knows something about the availabilty of a second station for the VHF Shipmate RS8100, to be fitted in parallel (the manual shows it) for the cockpit?
thanks a lot for advice
Attilio & Maria Santorin#84 Sisila



----- Messaggio inoltrato -----
Da: attilio.siviero <attilio.siviero@yahoo.com>
A: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Mercoledì 27 maggio 2009, 22:06:04
Oggetto: [Amel] davits for santorin





Hi there everybody!
can anyone give me an information about davits to be put on a Santorin?
I thought that the standard davits of SM ca be mounted on a Santorin, since they are 2 separate elemnents hinged on the stern, so they can be mounted on the stern of a Santorin, only a matter to mount them with a smaller distance in between.
The guys of Amel, on the opposite, say that davits for Santorin simply does not exist as standard, I have to provide an arch specially designed and made.
Any help?
Thanks
Maria & Attilio Santorin #84


Re: Maramu vs SM

c_fruendt
 

I also in comparison of two Amels Maramu and Santorin, actually i like the maramu because the systems are simpler, like cutlass bearing, sometimes they have normal battend sails,( no in mast furling) and not so much electrical motors. A bowthruster could be installed.

What i do not like at the Maramu is that the cockpit seems to be small especially there is only on full lenght settee where you can lay and sleep, but the starbord side is much smaller.

Also onyl a few have a real double in the aft cabin so here you might have to change the nice wood interior .

Hello Maramu owners: am i right ?

This is much better on the santorin but also more costly.


Re: [Amel] 1986 Amel Yard Tour

Eric Freedman
 

Joel,

That was a great video. Congratulations! I really enjoyed it.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Potter
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] 1986 Amel Yard Tour








Whoever posted the Amel yard tour and construction video, thanks for the
memories. I made that as a VHS tape to send to our North American clients to
give them an idea of how Amel boats are built way back in the spring of
1986! While some things have changed (did I ever really have so much hair?)
the construction of the boats today follows the same basic methods as shown
in this nearly antique video. The part with Jacques Carteau explaining the
types of fiberglass used by Amel was heartwarming. Mr. Carteau was still
learning English and was very uncomfortable with it at that point.
Nevertheless, when I asked him to do this piece, he agreed and soldiered
through it without notes or a teleprompter. I enjoyed a nice relationship
with him over the years and can report here that he is happy , healthy and
enjoying his retirement. Several of today's Amel team members acted as
"cameramen" for this video, including our current chairman, Jean Jacques
Lemonnier. Howard and Mary Chamberlain who you meet in the last minutes are
still Amel owners today and continue to flatter me by sending me clients.
Wow, I've been doing Amel boats for over half my life. Click on
http://blip. <http://blip.tv/file/1746815> tv/file/1746815

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys@ <mailto:jfpottercys%40att.net> att.net


1986 Amel Yard Tour

amelforme
 

Whoever posted the Amel yard tour and construction video, thanks for the
memories. I made that as a VHS tape to send to our North American clients to
give them an idea of how Amel boats are built way back in the spring of
1986! While some things have changed (did I ever really have so much hair?)
the construction of the boats today follows the same basic methods as shown
in this nearly antique video. The part with Jacques Carteau explaining the
types of fiberglass used by Amel was heartwarming. Mr. Carteau was still
learning English and was very uncomfortable with it at that point.
Nevertheless, when I asked him to do this piece, he agreed and soldiered
through it without notes or a teleprompter. I enjoyed a nice relationship
with him over the years and can report here that he is happy , healthy and
enjoying his retirement. Several of today's Amel team members acted as
"cameramen" for this video, including our current chairman, Jean Jacques
Lemonnier. Howard and Mary Chamberlain who you meet in the last minutes are
still Amel owners today and continue to flatter me by sending me clients.
Wow, I've been doing Amel boats for over half my life. Click on
http://blip.tv/file/1746815

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


Re: [Amel] SM 160 liter water maker FilmTec Membranes

BM2 <bluemarinemartin@...>
 

Bonjour,

Yes, Airwaterice ships abroad (under double package): I had membranes sent to New Zealand 2 years ago...and much cheapper than Dessalator.
Ask their "Guru" to help.

Rgards

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-06-16
----- Message reçu -----
De : svbebe
À : amelyachtowners
Date : 2009-06-16, 03:07:39
Sujet : [Amel] SM 160 liter water maker FilmTec Membranes





We replaced the FilmTec Membranes SW30-2540 in the 160 liter water maker and immediately went to almost 200 liters/hour on the sight-gauge and 74ppm TDS. I assume that the new FilmTec membranes are of higher quality than the ones we bought 4 years ago. We purchased these for $190 each at www.airwaterice.com (sales"at"airwaterice.com) 772-461-0256 located in Ft. Pierce, Florida.

They do not package for, nor do I think they ship internationally. We had the membranes shipped to a relative who packaged each one inside a 40" long 3" PVC pipe with PVC end caps, then placed in a duffel bag as checked luggage.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe SM2 #387
Mackay, Australia





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel] Hurricane Preparedness

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, I have lived my entire life on the Sassafras River the most northern
river on the Cheasapeake Bay.In all those years we have had few storms
make it this far north and west over the land without losing most of there
strenght.I watched Hurricane Isabelle and its path and if you watch the path
,assuming it does not change you can predict its impact. When Isabelle
approached and it looked like it was going to go up the western shore ,I ran
around warning everyone that we would have a tidal surge and since we never
had one before it fell on many deaf years .To confirm my prediction I
contacted the local Coast Guard in Still Pond , they would only say that maybe we
could have a surge but did not seem too concerned or alarmed. Well anyway
we ended up with a 8 foot surge and one guy who laughed at me and told me in
front of others that I was nuts had two boats washed off his dock. The
point I am trying to make is, first hurricanes are rare and usually weaker up
here. As to preparation , marinas do not have hurricane cradles up here
and a boat can easily be knocked off the stands. I prefer to take my chances
in the water , because few place offer more hurricane holes than the
Cheasapeake. I can not suggest a location because that would depend on the path
of the storm and your location at the time. Most of the rivers have many
bend with creeks and more bends. Many have cliffs and tall trees providing
protection.In conclusion in the unlikely event of a hurricane, look at its
path, then its wind directions for it will change as it passes.Then look at
the chart of the Bay an pick a narrow creek that offers the best protection
from the winds. If you get up to the Sassafras I am on a mooring
4 miles up the river from the mouth of the bay,across from Ordinary Point,
I live there in Kentmore Park. Drop your hook for a weekend its a great
anchorage . Enjoy yor cruise, Pat SM Shenanigans

In a message dated 6/16/2009 2:07:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
karkauai@yahoo.com writes:





Ahoy, everyone,
I'm going to be taking Kristy up to the Chesapeake in a few weeks, sailing
her around the DelMarVa for a couple more weeks, then leaving her in
Deltaville, VA marina on Jackson Creek until early Fall when I'll head for the
Caribbean. I'm looking for some advice about what to do in the event of a
hurricane threatening the Chesapeake. Would you have her hauled, unstepped,
blocked and chained or try to get her upstream in one of the rivers feeding
the bay. If you'd take her up river, which one and would you prefer to keep
her at a dock or at anchor? My ground tackle includes a smaller Fortress
the prior owner used as a lunch hook and aft anchor for Bahamian anchoring,
the original Delta spade that was supplied with the boat on 110 ft of
chain, and a large Fortress on 25 ft of chain and 150 ft of 1" nylon rode.
Specifics appreciated, but any general advice or discussion appreciated. Also,
maybe better in another thread, any advice on ground tackle in general. I'll
be up and down the E coast and Caribbean for another year or two, then
(health and finances willing) thru the Panama and to the S. Pacific.
Thanks in advance,
Kent
"Kristy" SM243





**************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F
ad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692145%3B38015538%3Bh)