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Re: More Options for Rub Rail Inserts

 

Bill & Karen, thanks for doing this.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:52 PM Karen Smith via groups.io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

With at least some businesses coming back on line in some areas, we are going to try again to put together a group of Amel owners who are looking to improve the appearance of their boats.

 

The rubber inserts that act as gutters along the top of the rubrail on the Super Maramu and Santorin have been occasionally available from Amel, but as heavy, bulky items shipping costs have been high from Europe to North America.

 

On our boat, SM #160, the rubber inserts are a faded, chalky, red with crumbling edges, and with every rain they wash a little bit more red mud down the hull.  It is time for them to go.

 

Just before the virus business disruptions hit hard, we had identified a custom extrusion company who could reproduce these for us in white EDPM, the most UV resistant rubber compound available.  All of the Super Maramus and Santorin used the same rubrail design, even those toward the end of the production run that had hard PVC gutters.  Custom colors (i.e., not white) are not going to be a cost effective option.

 

If your rub rail gutters are showing their age, and looking a bit ratty, or have been damaged, here is the chance for a significant cosmetic upgrade.

 

Until I get updated quotes, I can’t promise a price, but I’d expect less than $900–delivered by UPS—anywhere in the USA.  (Hawaii is possible, but can’t promise a delivery cost there yet.) The more people we have signed up, the more we can spread the setup costs, and the cheaper it gets.  The last delivered price I saw from Amel was over $2300.

 

Terms would be:  50% deposit to secure the order and lock in the price, and 50% when ready to ship.  Once the production run is set up and scheduled, we can’t add more later, so we’ll need to know everybody interested ahead of time. Reply to get on our list...  No money need yet, certainly not until we have a firm price and schedule.

 

If you did not get an email from us in the past week or so, you have somehow dropped off our radar, so let us know you are still interested.  

 

Not sure on timing yet, but requests for quote have gone out. I am hoping some of these places are hungry for business.


Re: Getting to St Maarten- New York

eric freedman
 

Hi Armo,

I fly into St Thomas June 1. I do not know what tickets mt crew has purchased so I might have to wait a few days in St Thomas for them.

We will then fly via private charter to SXM.

I am looking forward to meeting you.

Do you work on island?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 8:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Getting to St Maarten- New York

 

Hi Eric,

I live on St. Maarten and at present the way they want to “see” things happening for people that want to evacuate their boat from St. Maarten is that they will allow people to fly in from abroad as of June 1st, when landend you are supposed to go to your boat and leave within 24 hrs. 
Clearly this idea is conceived by persons clueless about the reality of preparing a boat for large crossings. So I expect a lot of people will protest agains this “arrangement”.

This Island is governed by people that regrettably don’t have the skill-set required for such a task. The effect is that rulings change at a pace hard to keep up with. The ‘randomness” of the rulings is often frustrating as well.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

eric freedman
 

Hi

Please send me photos also  to me.

 

kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 2:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Hello Kent & Iris,

 

We have photos of our set up for pumping the bilges. We did not compromise any of our watertight bulkheads. It’s a bit hard to describe in words, so photos work much better.

 

Do you have a direct e-mail address we can send the photos and description of work to you. Happy to put it all up on the Owners site too if anyone else is interested?

 

Kind regards,

Brian and Sue

S Y Lola

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 27 May, 2020 6:21
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Hi Brian & Sue,

I'm interested in both of your modifications. I guess most if us have overfilled our fresh water tank at least once.  At least the bilge gets cleaned ;-)>

The only way I have of pumping water from the saloon or cabins is a sump pump that requires my 24vDC > 119v AC inverter to be functional, or a small 24v DC pump that I have used for water that collected by the forward head when the bow thruster seal failed.

I have just the primary bilge pump and manual Whale pump in the engine room.

 

I heard a talk by a couple who got knocked down (not Amel) in the Indian Ocean by a rogue wave during an otherwise manageable storm.  They had a boat full of sea water and their cabins were strewn with debris from every locker and drawer in the boat. Paper from their paperback books turned to mush and clogged their bilge pump. They ended up using a bucket. Eventually they called for help and abandoned ship because they had no fresh water, no electricity, no way to heat food, no engine, and no standing rig.

 

This story prompted me to install the battery box bolts that have never been there since I bought Kristy;  I will install latches on the cabin sole lockers;  I am looking at options for additional pumping capacity.

 

Do you have pictures of your modifications? I guess there is a fitting through the forward engine room bulkhead? 

 

How much water will your engine pump? What do you do about debris? I guess the intake in the sump only allows pumping out water that gets into the grey water system. That wouldn't help much if there was water in the cabins or saloon.

 

Has anyone added an engine-driven pump that would not require an intact electrical system?

 

Any other thoughts?

Kent&Iris

Kristy

SM243

St Michaels, MD

 

 

 

On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:

Dear Mark

I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.

The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.

The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.

Cheers

Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell

S Y Lola

+61 481 719770

 

 

 

 

 

On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:

Dear Mark

I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.

The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.

The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.

Cheers

Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell

S Y Lola

+61 481 719770

 

 


On May 27, 2020, at 02:43, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

It is loud. I can clearly hear the alarm outside of the boat with the hatch closed.  Also, if you want it louder, the water sensor is on about 2 feet of wire. So, you can put the sensor in the area you wish to detect water under the floor and the alarm can be mounted higher up and not obscured or muffled by the floor.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Mark,

 

How loud is this alarm?

Will you hear clearly when in any of the forward or aft cabins and or saloon?

 

I have a 3rd party alarm but I can NOT say it is blood curling loud.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 25, 2020 14:48:38

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 15:02
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

[Edited Message Follows]

It is a shame you have altered the integrity of your vessel by holing the bulkheads. A better approach would have been to install water alarms in the compartments. These are available for about US$12.00

Image removed by sender. Glentronics, Inc. BWD-HWA 00895001498 Basement Watchdog High Water Alarm, Pack of 1, Multi

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeroen jeltes
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Ref Fidelis Am54 bno.118 .

i am surprised there is no safety bilgepump for the saloon , forward- and aft section .  only one bilge pump to drain the grey waterhole in the engineroom.

We already experienced a small accident wilst filling the freshwater tank ; the tank overflow comes from the dipstick hole wich results in  200L+ water in your bilgelockers ! 

Now i have installed an emergency 24V pump with 3m hose in the bilgelocker underneath the stairs.


comments welcome.
Jeroen  Jeltes.

 

 


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

Brian Mitchell
 

Hello Kent & Iris,

 

We have photos of our set up for pumping the bilges. We did not compromise any of our watertight bulkheads. It’s a bit hard to describe in words, so photos work much better.

 

Do you have a direct e-mail address we can send the photos and description of work to you. Happy to put it all up on the Owners site too if anyone else is interested?

 

Kind regards,

Brian and Sue

S Y Lola

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 27 May, 2020 6:21
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Hi Brian & Sue,

I'm interested in both of your modifications. I guess most if us have overfilled our fresh water tank at least once.  At least the bilge gets cleaned ;-)>

The only way I have of pumping water from the saloon or cabins is a sump pump that requires my 24vDC > 119v AC inverter to be functional, or a small 24v DC pump that I have used for water that collected by the forward head when the bow thruster seal failed.

I have just the primary bilge pump and manual Whale pump in the engine room.

 

I heard a talk by a couple who got knocked down (not Amel) in the Indian Ocean by a rogue wave during an otherwise manageable storm.  They had a boat full of sea water and their cabins were strewn with debris from every locker and drawer in the boat. Paper from their paperback books turned to mush and clogged their bilge pump. They ended up using a bucket. Eventually they called for help and abandoned ship because they had no fresh water, no electricity, no way to heat food, no engine, and no standing rig.

 

This story prompted me to install the battery box bolts that have never been there since I bought Kristy;  I will install latches on the cabin sole lockers;  I am looking at options for additional pumping capacity.

 

Do you have pictures of your modifications? I guess there is a fitting through the forward engine room bulkhead? 

 

How much water will your engine pump? What do you do about debris? I guess the intake in the sump only allows pumping out water that gets into the grey water system. That wouldn't help much if there was water in the cabins or saloon.

 

Has anyone added an engine-driven pump that would not require an intact electrical system?

 

Any other thoughts?

Kent&Iris

Kristy

SM243

St Michaels, MD

 

 

 

On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:

Dear Mark

I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.

The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.

The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.

Cheers

Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell

S Y Lola

+61 481 719770

 

 

 

 

 

On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:

Dear Mark

I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.

The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.

The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.

Cheers

Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell

S Y Lola

+61 481 719770

 

 


On May 27, 2020, at 02:43, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

It is loud. I can clearly hear the alarm outside of the boat with the hatch closed.  Also, if you want it louder, the water sensor is on about 2 feet of wire. So, you can put the sensor in the area you wish to detect water under the floor and the alarm can be mounted higher up and not obscured or muffled by the floor.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Mark,

 

How loud is this alarm?

Will you hear clearly when in any of the forward or aft cabins and or saloon?

 

I have a 3rd party alarm but I can NOT say it is blood curling loud.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 25, 2020 14:48:38

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 15:02
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

[Edited Message Follows]

It is a shame you have altered the integrity of your vessel by holing the bulkheads. A better approach would have been to install water alarms in the compartments. These are available for about US$12.00

Image removed by sender. Glentronics, Inc. BWD-HWA 00895001498 Basement Watchdog High Water Alarm, Pack of 1, Multi

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeroen jeltes
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Ref Fidelis Am54 bno.118 .

i am surprised there is no safety bilgepump for the saloon , forward- and aft section .  only one bilge pump to drain the grey waterhole in the engineroom.

We already experienced a small accident wilst filling the freshwater tank ; the tank overflow comes from the dipstick hole wich results in  200L+ water in your bilgelockers ! 

Now i have installed an emergency 24V pump with 3m hose in the bilgelocker underneath the stairs.


comments welcome.
Jeroen  Jeltes.

 

 


Re: More Options for Rub Rail Inserts

Karen Smith
 

With at least some businesses coming back on line in some areas, we are going to try again to put together a group of Amel owners who are looking to improve the appearance of their boats.

 

The rubber inserts that act as gutters along the top of the rubrail on the Super Maramu and Santorin have been occasionally available from Amel, but as heavy, bulky items shipping costs have been high from Europe to North America.

 

On our boat, SM #160, the rubber inserts are a faded, chalky, red with crumbling edges, and with every rain they wash a little bit more red mud down the hull.  It is time for them to go.

 

Just before the virus business disruptions hit hard, we had identified a custom extrusion company who could reproduce these for us in white EDPM, the most UV resistant rubber compound available.  All of the Super Maramus and Santorin used the same rubrail design, even those toward the end of the production run that had hard PVC gutters.  Custom colors (i.e., not white) are not going to be a cost effective option.

 

If your rub rail gutters are showing their age, and looking a bit ratty, or have been damaged, here is the chance for a significant cosmetic upgrade.

 

Until I get updated quotes, I can’t promise a price, but I’d expect less than $900–delivered by UPS—anywhere in the USA.  (Hawaii is possible, but can’t promise a delivery cost there yet.) The more people we have signed up, the more we can spread the setup costs, and the cheaper it gets.  The last delivered price I saw from Amel was over $2300.

 

Terms would be:  50% deposit to secure the order and lock in the price, and 50% when ready to ship.  Once the production run is set up and scheduled, we can’t add more later, so we’ll need to know everybody interested ahead of time. Reply to get on our list...  No money need yet, certainly not until we have a firm price and schedule.

 

If you did not get an email from us in the past week or so, you have somehow dropped off our radar, so let us know you are still interested.  

 

Not sure on timing yet, but requests for quote have gone out. I am hoping some of these places are hungry for business.


Re: no bilge pump in saloon Am54

Miles
 

For what is it worth, here is what I do about the fresh water overflow problem;

 

I have a whole house filter that attaches to the hose to the water source.  A short hose goes from the filter to the boat water intake.  The filter 1) makes sure that there is never any chlorine or dirt in my water tanks, and 2) slows the flow of the water coming in.  I see how long it takes for the first 100 liters and then I set a kitchen timer for the amount of water I want.  When the timer goes off, I turn off the hose. 

I do also have a backup electric pump that I bought after a dishwasher incident.  The pump is a big, heavy thing that hardware stores sell for pumping water out of flooded basements.  It is centrifugal so bits of paper and debris do not bother it. 

 

Regards,

 

Miles  s/y Ladybug, sm 216 Martinique

 

 


Re: Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

 

I think this one on insurance is going to be good.

We plan to live stream on zoom and youtube and have a copy available on youtube for future reference.   


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:11 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

Could you please upload it to YouTube?

I will be at sea, Hopefully”.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

 

ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers

When:
Saturday, 6 June 2020
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:
I asked Gary Golden, the number 1 person I respect in the insurance business to make a presentation on Marine Insurance. In 1987, Gary Golden co-founded International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS) and that marine insurance brokerage became so successful over the ensuing 29 years that his time was fully occupied with executive management of the agency. Gary recently turned the management of IMIS over to another firm and founded Manifest Marine. Gary works directly with clients, worldwide, to help them arrange the most suitable and affordable insurance for their boats and yachts. Gary's son Elliott Golden has joined him. Gary will speak of recent changes in the marine insurance business and how it impacts you. He will answer your questions.

Topic: Marine Insurance

Time: Jun 6, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time

 

Join Zoom Meeting

 

Meeting ID: 928 0624 8211

 

YouTube Live stream: https://youtu.be/ufad3J8J-go

 


Re: Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

eric freedman
 

I have been slugging it out with the authorities in St Maarten since March 24. I believe they will allow me to charter a small plane to get to the island. The prime minister has signed the document and I have to wait till it is published.

I wish I knew someone in St Thomas with a plane.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:14 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

 

Hi Eric. Lucky you.

Danny

On 28 May 2020 at 10:11 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

Could you please upload it to YouTube?

I will be at sea, Hopefully”.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

 

ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers

When:
Saturday, 6 June 2020
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:
I asked Gary Golden, the number 1 person I respect in the insurance business to make a presentation on Marine Insurance. In 1987, Gary Golden co-founded International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS) and that marine insurance brokerage became so successful over the ensuing 29 years that his time was fully occupied with executive management of the agency. Gary recently turned the management of IMIS over to another firm and founded Manifest Marine. Gary works directly with clients, worldwide, to help them arrange the most suitable and affordable insurance for their boats and yachts. Gary's son Elliott Golden has joined him. Gary will speak of recent changes in the marine insurance business and how it impacts you. He will answer your questions.

Topic: Marine Insurance

Time: Jun 6, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time

 

Join Zoom Meeting

 

Meeting ID: 928 0624 8211

 

YouTube Live stream: https://youtu.be/ufad3J8J-go

 

 

 


 


 


Re: Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Eric. Lucky you.

Danny

On 28 May 2020 at 10:11 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

Could you please upload it to YouTube?

I will be at sea, Hopefully”.

 

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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

 

ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers

When:
Saturday, 6 June 2020
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:
I asked Gary Golden, the number 1 person I respect in the insurance business to make a presentation on Marine Insurance. In 1987, Gary Golden co-founded International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS) and that marine insurance brokerage became so successful over the ensuing 29 years that his time was fully occupied with executive management of the agency. Gary recently turned the management of IMIS over to another firm and founded Manifest Marine. Gary works directly with clients, worldwide, to help them arrange the most suitable and affordable insurance for their boats and yachts. Gary's son Elliott Golden has joined him. Gary will speak of recent changes in the marine insurance business and how it impacts you. He will answer your questions.

Topic: Marine Insurance

Time: Jun 6, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time

 

Join Zoom Meeting

 

Meeting ID: 928 0624 8211

 

YouTube Live stream: https://youtu.be/ufad3J8J-go

 

 



 


 


Re: Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Could you please upload it to YouTube?

I will be at sea, Hopefully”.

 

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ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers

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I asked Gary Golden, the number 1 person I respect in the insurance business to make a presentation on Marine Insurance. In 1987, Gary Golden co-founded International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS) and that marine insurance brokerage became so successful over the ensuing 29 years that his time was fully occupied with executive management of the agency. Gary recently turned the management of IMIS over to another firm and founded Manifest Marine. Gary works directly with clients, worldwide, to help them arrange the most suitable and affordable insurance for their boats and yachts. Gary's son Elliott Golden has joined him. Gary will speak of recent changes in the marine insurance business and how it impacts you. He will answer your questions.

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Time: Jun 6, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time

 

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Re: Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter

eric freedman
 

If I am not mistaken the Model of the cutter is “B”

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Guenette via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:21 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter

 

Hi Ulrich,

If you contact Leean Ali at Spurs and give her your information she should be able to tell you the size you will need. Spurs also sells replacement parts and rebuild kits. I believe if you ship them your line cutter they can preform a servicing and rebuild on your line cutter and ship it back to you too.

Spurs Marine Mfg.
201 SW 33 STREET
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33315 USA
Tel. 954-463-2707

Office@...
http://www.spursmarine.com

fair winds

Paul currently in San Francisco

sv Aramis    SM 444


Re: Cockpit enclosure

Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...>
 

Bernd
Our Santorin already had a Bimini added. The centre strut of the frame is bolted forward of the Genoa sheet winches.
You can only do this on the Santorin because the SM has two winches there.
We have added a front zipped in window sides and a back (all removable). We also have sun shades for the sides and back.
Because they are attached to the Bimini it is free standing and not attached to the mizzen shrouds.
We have kept the original Amel hood for the integrity of the boat, but never use it.
We sail In foul weather inside the enclosure
And have had no issues in winds up to f9.
I think the main issue for the Santorin is that the original headroom of the standard hood is a lot lower than the SM. Raising that to standing headroom would be more difficult. But other SN owners mY chip in with solutions.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Updated Event: ZOOM Meeting Marine Insurance presentation Questions & Answers - Saturday, 6 June 2020 #cal-invite

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Saturday, 6 June 2020
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Description:
I asked Gary Golden, the number 1 person I respect in the insurance business to make a presentation on Marine Insurance. In 1987, Gary Golden co-founded International Marine Insurance Services (IMIS) and that marine insurance brokerage became so successful over the ensuing 29 years that his time was fully occupied with executive management of the agency. Gary recently turned the management of IMIS over to another firm and founded Manifest Marine. Gary works directly with clients, worldwide, to help them arrange the most suitable and affordable insurance for their boats and yachts. Gary's son Elliott Golden has joined him. Gary will speak of recent changes in the marine insurance business and how it impacts you. He will answer your questions.

Topic: Marine Insurance
Time: Jun 6, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time
 
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Meeting ID: 928 0624 8211
 
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Re: Cockpit enclosure

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bernd,

I clamped the tube to the mizzen side stay as in Bill Rouses photo but I ran it over the boom rather than under. This has the advantage of much better head room.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 28 May 2020 at 01:56 Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:

Hi,
can anyone please give advise and provide pics how you did fix  the aft cockpit enclosure on a SN or SM?
especially how and where did you attach the support arch in the aft.
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Cockpit enclosure

 

There are several ways. The examples below are for a SM. I believe that they will work for a SN Ketch, but not a Sloop.
Look for the eye bolt under where the mizzen boom connects to the mast. Use a piece of PVC through the bolt and stainless steel tubes slide over the PVC.
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Clamp the tube to the mizzen shroud this way:
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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 8:56 AM Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:
Hi,
can anyone please give advise and provide pics how you did fix  the aft cockpit enclosure on a SN or SM?
especially how and where did you attach the support arch in the aft.
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Cockpit enclosure

Bernd Spanner
 

Hi,
can anyone please give advise and provide pics how you did fix  the aft cockpit enclosure on a SN or SM?
especially how and where did you attach the support arch in the aft.
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: no bilgepump in saloon Am54

karkauai
 

Hi Brian & Sue,
I'm interested in both of your modifications. I guess most if us have overfilled our fresh water tank at least once.  At least the bilge gets cleaned ;-)>
The only way I have of pumping water from the saloon or cabins is a sump pump that requires my 24vDC > 119v AC inverter to be functional, or a small 24v DC pump that I have used for water that collected by the forward head when the bow thruster seal failed.
I have just the primary bilge pump and manual Whale pump in the engine room.

I heard a talk by a couple who got knocked down (not Amel) in the Indian Ocean by a rogue wave during an otherwise manageable storm.  They had a boat full of sea water and their cabins were strewn with debris from every locker and drawer in the boat. Paper from their paperback books turned to mush and clogged their bilge pump. They ended up using a bucket. Eventually they called for help and abandoned ship because they had no fresh water, no electricity, no way to heat food, no engine, and no standing rig.

This story prompted me to install the battery box bolts that have never been there since I bought Kristy;  I will install latches on the cabin sole lockers;  I am looking at options for additional pumping capacity.

Do you have pictures of your modifications? I guess there is a fitting through the forward engine room bulkhead? 

How much water will your engine pump? What do you do about debris? I guess the intake in the sump only allows pumping out water that gets into the grey water system. That wouldn't help much if there was water in the cabins or saloon.

Has anyone added an engine-driven pump that would not require an intact electrical system?

Any other thoughts?
Kent&Iris
Kristy
SM243
St Michaels, MD



On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:
Dear Mark
I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.
The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.
The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.
Cheers
Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell
S Y Lola
+61 481 719770





On May 27, 2020 2:08 AM, Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:
Dear Mark
I have this style of alarm and it works well so long as the battery is good and all connections in the battey compartment are also good.
The pump that pumps out the grey water in the engine room could help with the flooding as i too flooded my freshwater, I now sit focused, like when refueling, watching the water fill. What I have done is put a “y”  toilet diversion valve inline. I have the original suction going up through as original but I have fitted some cam lock fittings and about 12 meters of hose so I can now reach most disasters by switching over the “y” valve  and pump out the remote areas.
The other thing I installed was a “t - fitting“, valve and strainer on the main engine raw water cooling line with another pick up into the bilge incase the grey water pump failed or I can use the motor as an emergency pump if needed in an emergency.
Cheers
Brian & Sue

Sue Mitchell
S Y Lola
+61 481 719770



On May 27, 2020, at 02:43, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

It is loud. I can clearly hear the alarm outside of the boat with the hatch closed.  Also, if you want it louder, the water sensor is on about 2 feet of wire. So, you can put the sensor in the area you wish to detect water under the floor and the alarm can be mounted higher up and not obscured or muffled by the floor.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Mark,

 

How loud is this alarm?

Will you hear clearly when in any of the forward or aft cabins and or saloon?

 

I have a 3rd party alarm but I can NOT say it is blood curling loud.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 25, 2020 14:48:38

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 15:02
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

[Edited Message Follows]

It is a shame you have altered the integrity of your vessel by holing the bulkheads. A better approach would have been to install water alarms in the compartments. These are available for about US$12.00

Glentronics, Inc. BWD-HWA 00895001498 Basement Watchdog High Water Alarm, Pack of 1, Multi

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeroen jeltes
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] no bilgepump in saloon Am54

 

Ref Fidelis Am54 bno.118 .

i am surprised there is no safety bilgepump for the saloon , forward- and aft section .  only one bilge pump to drain the grey waterhole in the engineroom.

We already experienced a small accident wilst filling the freshwater tank ; the tank overflow comes from the dipstick hole wich results in  200L+ water in your bilgelockers ! 

Now i have installed an emergency 24V pump with 3m hose in the bilgelocker underneath the stairs.


comments welcome.
Jeroen  Jeltes.

 



Re: SM Turnbuckle

Gary Silver
 

Hi John:
 
Thanks for your work on this.  I will next be aboard on 4 June 2020 and will initiate some photo exchanges with ACMO.  What was involved with, "engineer directed attempts to "clean" the chrome".  Did they specify how quickly you had to return the removed turnbuckles?  Just going on the hard the end of June and not sure I could get the new and swap out things in time.

Again, thanks for the heads up.

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Rico


Re: My Plotter has stopped providing CTS information

Bob Grey
 

Thank you for the suggestion on heading sensor but that does seem to be working as the autopilot on auto or Nav works perfectly.


Re: Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter

ULRICH DANGELMEYER
 

Hi Paul,

great idea, THX so much. So we go.
Have a good time in Frisco, damn good place to stay, in Covid times too.

Best wishes
Ulrich / „SoleilBleu“ A54#088
<>
Am 27.05.2020 um 07:20 schrieb Paul Guenette via groups.io <paulguenette@...>:

Hi Ulrich,

If you contact Leean Ali at Spurs and give her your information she should be able to tell you the size you will need. Spurs also sells replacement parts and rebuild kits. I believe if you ship them your line cutter they can preform a servicing and rebuild on your line cutter and ship it back to you too.

Spurs Marine Mfg.
201 SW 33 STREET
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33315 USA
Tel. 954-463-2707

Office@...
http://www.spursmarine.com

fair winds

Paul currently in San Francisco

sv Aramis    SM 444