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Re: Onan does not start
Thank you all for your help
It was the negative selenoid, now bypassed and the Onan is spinning again. Just need to find replacement and a spare to carry Paul on sykerpa SM 259
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Re: Cleaning Water Heater
Gerhard Mueller
Kent
Once I had a short circuit in the water heater of my boiler. When taking out the heater element I saw there never has been any zinc element. The boiler was less than 2 years old. So I claimed the vendor and after some discussions the vendor delivered a new water heater with zinc element for free. Obviously it was a fault by the manufacturer to not have installed the zinc element. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: alternator wiring question
Gerhard Mueller
To get informations about a device use Google.
I see this when asking Google for your alternator connections. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Keel rust and ballast straps on a Maramu
Jacob Champness
Thanks Miles. What else is connected to that busbar?
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alternator wiring question
smiles bernard
Hello fello Amelians I've been replacing the bilge bonding strap on our Maramu #162 The job has offered a jolly time well spent sprawled across my engine. Whilst relaxing in this position i _think_ i have managed to knock a wire from the service bats alternator I'm not that familiar with alternator wiring and wondered if anyone might be able to guide me on where the now loose wire might go? I attach a picture. The wire in question is the small central white wire with red crimp terminal I think it attaches back as per the picture but I dont know what the 3 terminals in the top of the alternator are for There is a chance that i did not knock the wire off and it was never attached - ie its some artefact of a previously replaced alternator Any advise would be very much appreciated Its a 8LHA2023VA motorola btw All the best Miles Maramu #162
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Re: Mango Headsail Question
smiles bernard
Hi there I had the same setup as described on a previous boat and I'm a big fan of it. Really good for down wind but also for a bullet proof , hank on, storm sail option. It also adds a backup forestay of course. We used rigging wire cut to a suitable length to allow it to be stowed at the mast base when not in use. We then had a strop to make up the remaining length that was attached to the deck fitting. We used a highfield lever for connecting / tensioning the strop and the main stay This meant easy stowing of the stay and also meant we could hank on a bagged storm sail and sheets ready to go in the stowed mast base position For downwind work we had a 85ish % hank on sail on the removable forestay. It stayed up all the time. 2 or 3 weeks i think on one crossing. Reefing for squalls was a breeze with the furler on the main big genoa I will repeat if on our Maramu If we do more ocean hopping as i really missed it on our last trip. This time I’ll use dyneema but the same tensioner and setup i think I’d also be really interested in any pictures of the deck fitting used on your mango and if/how that is tied into the hull. Someone has done something similar on our Maramu in the past i think. There is a strong deck fitting tied into the hull that is just aft of the furler unit. Perhaps others also have this and its for something else I have not considered? My original Amel installed furler was replaced with a modern electrical proful equivalent. The unit has been faultless but sadly it's motor position and dimensions mean it obstructs the line a second stay would take in the above plan. In time i'll turn the furler motor unit through 180 degrees to remove the obstruction Or i'm thinking remove the electric furler and replace it with a manual one with a smaller footprint. All the best very best Miles Maramu 162
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Re: Amel decal
Hi Arlo,
As noted in my earlier posts, please send me a private email to CraigBriggs001@.... Send your phone and address and what boat you have (SN, SM). Best regards, Craig
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Re: Onan does not start
Kent, Correct, Jumping or eliminating a faulty negative start solenoid on the Onan should be used only as a temporary repair or test. The solenoid should be replaced. Bill
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Re: Onan does not start
If you are talking about the solenoid between battery negative and the Onan engine block, that is there to isolate the Onan from battery negative EXCEPT when glo-plugs, Start, and Stop solenoids are used. The rest of the time the solenoid is open and there is no connection to battery negative. Eliminating that solenoid defeats the floating ground bonding system in Amels and puts your under water metals at greater risk. I strongly recommend against that. I had a prop shaft get destroyed by a faulty charger/inverter combined with a connection made by an ABYC electrician who didn't understand what Amel did. The CDrive had to be replaced to the tune of $30000US and loss of almost a year. If you are talking about the start solenoid, I'm not sure how you would eliminate that and still have the starter function. Bill, Olivier????? Kent SM 243 KRISTY .
On Jun 3, 2020 1:27 PM, Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: Cleaning Water Heater
Yes, Gerhard, I figured that out when I started cleaning it up. The base was also starting to disintegrate. l cleaned then descaled the tank with CLR, and inspected the tank and am putting it back in with a new element/thermostat, and zinc. I have two extra zincs and will check it every year from now on. Anyone have any ideas how to check for an electrical leak that may be causing the zinc to disintegrate? I think I changed the half-gone zinc 3 years ago when the old element developed a short. This time all was working well and the element has appropriate resistance, so I don't think that is the problem. The tech at QUICKUSA said when the zincs go it's usually due to an electrical leak. It's a 220AC heating element, connected to sea water only by the heat exchanger tubing and coolant. The 220 ground wire is connected to the boat's 220 ground. I don't have it connected to the bonding system. I have a galvanic isolator but rarely ever use shore power for brief periods. Because it's a magnesium anode, it would be used up before the boat's zincs...if indeed there is a connection somehow. How to check for an electrical leak here??? Thanks, Kent KRISTY SM 243
On Jun 2, 2020 8:06 AM, "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote: Kent
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Re: Onan does not start
Thomas, Thank you
I have switched it several times to be on the safe side as well as the other breakers. Paul SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: Onan does not start
Sv Garulfo
Paul, Check the DC circuit breaker above the red emergency switch. If i remember correctly, yours looks to be in the off position. I may be wrong and I’m not on the boat to check, but it happened to me twice to inadvertently knock it off while in the ER. Best, Thomas GARULFO A54-122 Tahuata
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 05:46, John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:
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Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)
Scott SV Tengah
Mark,
I ran the four 50mm2 cables for the Quattro 5000/24/120 the same way that Amel ran the original cables for my Dolphin 100amp and the Dolphin 30amp. I re-used the cables that Amel installed with the Dolphin 100amp to connect my secondary charger (Skylla-i 80 amp). Note that I did NOT reuse the cables that Amel used for the Dolphin 30amp. From the engine room, the cables go underneath a cover at the forward end of the companionway where the passage berth is located. This leads directly to the main switches. Note that you will have to break the epoxy between the engine room and the companionway. On my 54, once you remove the cover you see in the center of the photo, it becomes immediately obvious. You can do it with a chisel quite easily from the companionway. Once you run the new cables, remember to fill it in to re-establish the watertight separation between the engine compartment and the companionway. Hope this helps. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Onan does not start
Mine was also removed in St Thomas same symptoms now has run perfect for 18 months
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2020 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start Paul,
We did not identify a knob or similar to press on the solenoid etc. etc. We just removed the negative solenoid.
If I understand Porter correctly he also is now sailing/using genset without a negative solenoid. I was going to have this looked at by a marine electrician in
COOMERA but can I just omit that and continue without a negative solenoid?
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
June 3, 2020
10:27:01
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link:
https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 10:10 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start Teun and Paul.
Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR.
Porter A54-152.
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Re: Onan does not start
Paul,
We did not identify a knob or similar to press on the solenoid etc. etc. We just removed the negative solenoid.
If I understand Porter correctly he also is now sailing/using genset without a negative solenoid. I was going to have this looked at by a marine electrician in COOMERA but can I just omit that and continue without a negative solenoid?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA June 3, 2020 10:27:01
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 10:10 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start
Teun and Paul. Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR. Porter A54-152.
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Re: Onan does not start
Porter McRoberts
Teun and Paul.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR. Porter A54-152. Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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Re: Onan does not start
Thank you all
Tomorrow I will go down to Kerpa and try to identify the negative selenoid, I had a negative selenoid on an VP on one of my previous boats that malfunction time to time, but it had a knob one could press in and force contact that way, Do not know if the Onan has that. Paul SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
I’ll change the anode next week, and I’ll post the screw size here. Thanks again for everyone.
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
Thanks Ryan!
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
Thanks Bill!
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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