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Re: Onan does not start
Mine was also removed in St Thomas same symptoms now has run perfect for 18 months
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
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From: Teun BAAS <teun@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2020 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start Paul,
We did not identify a knob or similar to press on the solenoid etc. etc. We just removed the negative solenoid.
If I understand Porter correctly he also is now sailing/using genset without a negative solenoid. I was going to have this looked at by a marine electrician in
COOMERA but can I just omit that and continue without a negative solenoid?
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
June 3, 2020
10:27:01
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 10:10 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start Teun and Paul.
Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR.
Porter A54-152.
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Re: Onan does not start
Paul,
We did not identify a knob or similar to press on the solenoid etc. etc. We just removed the negative solenoid.
If I understand Porter correctly he also is now sailing/using genset without a negative solenoid. I was going to have this looked at by a marine electrician in COOMERA but can I just omit that and continue without a negative solenoid?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA June 3, 2020 10:27:01
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 10:10 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start
Teun and Paul. Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR. Porter A54-152.
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Re: Onan does not start
Porter McRoberts
Teun and Paul.
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Exact scenario. Same fix. Thanks BR. Porter A54-152. Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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Re: Onan does not start
Thank you all
Tomorrow I will go down to Kerpa and try to identify the negative selenoid, I had a negative selenoid on an VP on one of my previous boats that malfunction time to time, but it had a knob one could press in and force contact that way, Do not know if the Onan has that. Paul SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
I’ll change the anode next week, and I’ll post the screw size here. Thanks again for everyone.
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
Thanks Ryan!
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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Re: SM Anodes especification
#replacement
JOSE PRIETO
Thanks Bill!
-- Jose Prieto SV Wayag, SM 323 Currently Alicante, Spain
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Re: Onan does not start
Paul,
On my A54 I had Onan starting problems April 2019 in VANUATU. Almost like it was on a dying battery; when running the main for a couple of minutes the Onan would start. After several days that didn’t work either. The French marine electrician in PORT VILA diagnosed the negative solenoid being the problem. No solenoid available in VANUATU but he happened to go that weekend to NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA; he hard wired the negative while he got the new solenoid. He did mention that he didn’t understand why the Onan had a negative solenoid anyhow; I was adamant to keep the system the way it was since AMEL has a special bonding system: he also checked with an electrician friend in FRANCE who was very familiar with AMEL boats. Installed new negative solenoid and all was well until 4 months later it went out again when I came back from THE BANKS. Luckily this happened to be in PORT VILA so I was able to use the same electrician. He removed the negative solenoid completely – hard wired and since no more problems.
So the problem for me was the negative solenoid at the back of the Onan.
BTW – all batteries as well as connections were checked (house and engine) and were in perfect condition. Old negative solenoid was corroded though as my SPECTRA NEWPORT II pre-filters are right in that area and hard to change w/o spilling raw water. Even extensive flushing with fresh apparently doesn’t help – unless the corrosion already set in before I got the boat.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA June 3, 2020 08:35:16
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 03:19 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan does not start
My Onan is totally dead nothing happened when trying to star not a slightest click. I have measured 12,8 volt between +on the starter and minus on the alternator, but only about 4 volt between + on the starter an - I believe it is on the
starter see attached photo the same reading 4 v between plus on the starter and the ground strap.
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Re: Onan does not start
John Clark
Hi Paul, I instinctively say it is the DC circuit breaker, the red switch on the Generator panel in the ER. I see it looks to be on, try cycling it. My switch can be bumped when doing work in the ER and look like it is still on. I am not 100% sure about the solenoid that connects the DC negative, if that also connects the generator control power to the neg terminal. If so that could be the issue as well...in that scenario the solenoid would first close then allow everything else to fire up. I'll be back on the boat this afternoon and can double check. John Annie SM 37 Water Island USVI
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:18 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote: My Onan is totally dead nothing happened when trying to star not a slightest click. I have measured 12,8 volt between +on the starter and minus on the alternator, but only about 4 volt between + on the starter an - I believe it is on the starter see attached photo the same reading 4 v between plus on the starter and the ground strap.
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Re: Keel rust and ballast straps on a Maramu
smiles bernard
HI Jacob I just folded some single sided tape in half and stuck it inside the socket :) Which worked ok But i did also have one of those long litter picker up tools to hand just in case! Great to have onboard anyhow incase something escapes you and ends up in the dreaded bilge In terms of the topmost attachment - it's just a bluesea busbar i screwed into place The plan is to replace that in time with a piece of glassed foam and then just use the big copper strap as the busbar - ie add a terminal at its upper end ......but i had the bluesea thing to hand . . . . . Hope that helps and best of luck with the job As i think i mentioned i'm pretty sure a section of braided copper with a 20 mm eye on the end would last a while too but this copper bar option is belt and braces I hope All the best Miles
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Re: SM Outhaul troubleshooting
Kaplan,Andre
Daniel and Lori
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Where can I find posts on rebuilding mainsail outhaul motor and gearbox?
Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 7188
Westbrook, CT
On Jun 3, 2020, at 8:44 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: SM Outhaul troubleshooting
Dan, Sent you a private message. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 7:15 AM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote: Hi all, on our last passage I popped the breaker on the mainsail Outhaul a couple times. I disconnected the motor from the Outhaul and was able to reset the breaker and actuate the motor, but the when reconnected it it popped the breaker again. Now I can't reset the breaker. 1) I've have found lots of posts on removing and rebuilding the outhaul gearbox and motor and plan to do that to get to the source of why, but 2) I would also like some suggestions for trouble shooting and checking through all of the electrical connections to make sure that I don't have other issues there.
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Re: Onan does not start
Barry,
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Can you send photo of where these relays are and what value are they? Peter Peter Forbes Carango Amel 54 #035 La Rochelle 00447836 209730 07836 209730
On 3 Jun 2020, at 13:30, Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry@...> wrote:
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Re: Onan does not start
Hi Paul,
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I am not very good with electric parts but I had a similar problem. No click from the starter but I did hear a whish noise from behind the control panel. I took them out and put them back in, when pressing down on one the Onan started. I replaced both relays and all then started and worked. Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Jun 3, 2020, at 06:24, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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Re: Amel decal
Arlo
I would like a set as well please
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Re: Onan does not start
You should check the negative and positive start solenoids and the wire connectors to these. Most of the time it is the negative solenoid. The second most common cause is the connection between where the start battery negative wire connects to the terminal on the outside left of the Onan and the connection to the negative solenoid. You can check both of these using a jumper cable between where the start battery negative terminal connects to the Onan and, first, to the battery-side of the solenoid. This will check the wire and connections. Next, then from the start battery negative connotation terminal on the Onan to the other side of the solenoid. That will check the wire, connections, and solenoid. Use CorrosionX on all connections. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 5:24 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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SM Outhaul troubleshooting
Hi all, on our last passage I popped the breaker on the mainsail Outhaul a couple times. I disconnected the motor from the Outhaul and was able to reset the breaker and actuate the motor, but the when reconnected it it popped the breaker again. Now I can't reset the breaker. 1) I've have found lots of posts on removing and rebuilding the outhaul gearbox and motor and plan to do that to get to the source of why, but 2) I would also like some suggestions for trouble shooting and checking through all of the electrical connections to make sure that I don't have other issues there.
Thanks and regards, Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387
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Re: Hi- I made it to St Maarten.
Jacob Champness
Wow. When I took that flight in the other direction on a Puerto Rico Air National Guard AC-130 after Irma, it took over an hour!
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Onan does not start
My Onan is totally dead nothing happened when trying to star not a slightest click. I have measured 12,8 volt between +on the starter and minus on the alternator, but only about 4 volt between + on the starter an - I believe it is on the starter see attached photo the same reading 4 v between plus on the starter and the ground strap.
I assume the reading should be 12,8 and not 4 volt? Any idea where to start searching? Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259, Lagos, Portugal sykerpa.com
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Re: Genoa Swivel - position + binding connection to the genoa top loop - Amel 54
Bill,
Thanks for the link to the video. Now I got a good idea how the system works. Very smart solution ! I didn't know this existed. It's a shame we don't have the split poles anymore on the 54 because that was very easy system to set up. On our 54 we now use the Parasailor. But for a short handed crew I think the genoa/ballooner system is safer because it can be rolled in a second in case of a squall (specially at night) Drawback with the twin sails is the rolling of the boat and the necessity to sail almost dead downwind.
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