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Re: "Popeye" & Questions

svcharisma
 

Richard,
On my Mango, the mizzen mast wiring came out behind the mirror in the aft head. It took me quite a while to figure this out, in fact I had already cut the radar wires in another spot before I removed the mirror and voila. Good luck.

Alan Spence
sv Charisma, Mango #62
Musket Cove, Fiji


Re: [Amel] Re: Trojan 200 vs Trojan 225 Batteries for Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Bill,
I' m too planning to replace batteries and to find new like the original is very difficult in the Caribbean. Now the boat is in Venezuela.
At Island Water there are DEKA G31 Deep Cycle and Dual Purpose item n A013101.
But your info about http://www.dcbattery.com is very precious.
First it's possible to have the batteries on board every where, second they offer a good support.
Now the questions, please.
- our charging system is ideal for " normal " batteries. I don't know if with AGM Fillriver you had to change something on set up because of the over charging problems with AGM.
-sizes seem good, but you had to short some of the copper straps and cut a little piece of mahogony ? Why ?
I suppose for the position and height of terminals. In the Fullriver brochure the battery in the photo shows a lateral combination of two terminals, not a unique central threated stud, better for us. Do you know if is it possible to have it like optional ?
-may we have photos of your new solution ( copper strapps and arrangement of batteries ) ?
Thanks so much for every suggestion
Best and Buon Vento
Giovanni Testa
s/v EUTIKIA SM2K n 428
VENEZIA
ITALIA

----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:21 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Trojan 200 vs Trojan 225 Batteries for Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335





Gary,

DC Battery in Miami http://www.dcbattery.com shipped 13 batteries to us while we were in Bonaire via AmCar Freight services. I am not sure if AmCar serves Antigua. The transit time was about a week and the pallet was delivered to the dock alongside our boat. The delivery driver even handed each battery over the rail to me. Total freight cost about $260.00.

We bought Fillriver Group31's from them. They fit well...modifications included shortening some of the copper straps and cutting 2 notches in the 2" deminsion piece of mahogony under the battery compartment lid. I had not planned on cutting this and you should consider this in your measurements.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387
Mackay Australia

So far the 110 amp Fullriver Grp31's have performed well.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone:
> It has come time to replace my house batteries. I have no source for a Group 31 deep cycle battery with flush caps and a SS threaded stud placement that will allow me to utilize the copper tie bar between the positive and negative post for the series (24 volt) set up in my boat.
>
> The AC Delco 1150 batteries originally fit measure 13 inches long x 6.825 inches wide x 9.5 inches tall to the top of the threaded stud and have a flush top that allows the 2x4 beam on the bottom of the bunk top to fit against the tops of the batteries:
>
> Replacement options (i.e. available to me in Antigua) are:
>
> 1. Trojan SCS225 measuring 13.94 (almost 14 inches long) x 6.75 inches wide x 9.875 inches tall to the top of the stud
>
> OR
>
> 2. Trojan SCS200 measuring 12.75 inches long x 6.75 inches wide x 9.75 inches tall to the top of the stud.
>
> Neither layout of the studs will allow me to use the existing interconnect bars. I will have to have fabricated interconnect cables. Additionally I am concerned that the 2x4 hold down beam may not clear the filler caps on the top of the batteries.
>
> Has anybody out there fitted either of these batteries to an Amel SM2000 of approximately my vintage (delivered July 2001, Hull # 335) and can tell me about their experience.
>
> Thanks to all, Gary
>






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Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Bill,

Fortunately, in this context, Popeye has a 12v system.

Enjoy the tidal range in Mackay!

Richard

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:42 AM, svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> wrote:



-Richard,

LEDOnline recommends using a power conditioner for 24 volt systems. Did you
do this? About 2 years ago I bought some LED mast lights (tricolor and
anchor) from LEDonline. They cost about $50 each and lasted about 1 year. I
am assuming because of what they say on their website:

"Despite the advances we've made with driving LED's properly at 12vDC we
still experience some problems on charging 24vDC systems. This is due to the
voltage range of the drivers we use in our bulbs. LEDs are current "driven"
and not voltage "driven."
The maximum range achievable right now for quality small current based
drivers is 30 vDC. Using 12v DC, voltages can reach as high as 15.5v. This
is only half the rated voltage of the 8~30vDC driver.
When we use 24v however - charging voltages can reach 28.8v or even higher
if the regulator on the 24v system is not set properly.
This is so very close to the maximum operating voltage of our drivers that
we can experience failures sometimes. For that reason we now recommend using
a power conditioner on 24v lighting systems."

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Currently Mackay Australia



[Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

ladyannila <kanalmamman@...>
 

I think the question was to me :)

We have bought the sensibulb, they have it on the entrance page rigth now.

/Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

Did you purchase light bulbs or entire fixtures?

I did not see the bulbs on the website.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions








Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat
since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary

In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have
also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from
www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded and
by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed
questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have
removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and
twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just
failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas
cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"




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Re: "Popeye" & Questions

ladyannila <kanalmamman@...>
 

It is equal to an 10-15 W halogen bulb. Both in warmth and britghtness.

/Ann-Sofie

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary


In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded and by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also, is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Joel,

Thanks. I will try and get additional propane tanks the same as I have
currently. There are two spares on board but they are corroded, and I'm
chicken when it comes to propane tanks.

I spent a couple of hours with Peter Grimm going over all of the sails,
and he certainly looked after me and gave good advice. Thank you for
pointing me in his direction. I should be going down to pick op those that
needed repair shortly. The larger of the two genoas is LARGE (the smaller
was set for the trip South) and probably not going to see much use on a
downwind run, the pole appearing to be too short to keep it under control or
fully spread when wing-a-wing. That's what the spinnaker is for.

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Joel Potter <jfpottercys@att.net> wrote:



Hi Richard, Popeye has been well owned and you will find that boat to be
less problematic than similarly aged vessels.
I can't remember where the wire parting section for the mizzen is exactly
other than to tell you if you follow the wires from the base of the mizzen
mast you will discover the place where they are joined. I have taken the
masts off several Maramus and can't remember the mizzen details other than
to say that it is not mysterious. I am sure that a Maramu owner will come
up
on the site here with the info.
Maramus were originally equipped with Campgaz/Butagaz cylinders containing
butane, not propane. You can use an individual 5lbs. U.S.A. standard steel
vertical cylinder in that tiny locker just outboard of the galley if you
cut
a small V-shaped notch in the top of the carry handle that is integral to
the tank. Don't worry, just precisely where to cut the notch will be very
obvious when you try to put the cylinder in the locker. A better solution
is
to employ the locker on the aft deck or to install a container on the stern
rails to carry larger aluminum alloy tanks which are worth the hefty
premium
to purchase them as they last nearly forever unlike the short lived steel
cylinders. The standard warning about a perfect installation as propane is
heavier than air and will take you and the boat to smithereens if propane
escapes and accumulates in the interior. Be careful to be sure of the
absolute integrity of the entire system.
Did Peter Grimm take good care of your sail updates?

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys@att.net <jfpottercys%40att.net>






Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Eric,

Thanks for the information. I'll take a look and see if the Maramu works
that way as well.

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:



Hi Richard:

Thanks for the reply about the LED lights.

I have a 2001 Super Maramu but perhaps regarding the following there are
some
similarities to you Maramu:

You wrote

" 2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar
at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting
the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?"

On my Super Maramu there are 2 panels for the main mast wiring. One is
above the companionway to the forward cabin abeam the forward head as
well as in the head above the shower head. Both areas contain wiring for
the main mast.

For the mizzen there is a panel in the aft head just to starboard of the
mirror and sink where the wiring enters. This panel is secured with a
single screw and held in place on several sides by trim pieces of wood.
The wires pass through a wire chase that traverses horizontally to
starboard
just above the aft cabin door and is just below the small portlight on the
forward starboard cockpit area just above the starboard cockpit locker.

Hope that makes sense and might be of some help.

Gary



[Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

-Richard,

LEDOnline recommends using a power conditioner for 24 volt systems. Did you do this? About 2 years ago I bought some LED mast lights (tricolor and anchor) from LEDonline. They cost about $50 each and lasted about 1 year. I am assuming because of what they say on their website:

"Despite the advances we've made with driving LED's properly at 12vDC we still experience some problems on charging 24vDC systems. This is due to the voltage range of the drivers we use in our bulbs. LEDs are current "driven" and not voltage "driven."
The maximum range achievable right now for quality small current based drivers is 30 vDC. Using 12v DC, voltages can reach as high as 15.5v. This is only half the rated voltage of the 8~30vDC driver.
When we use 24v however - charging voltages can reach 28.8v or even higher if the regulator on the 24v system is not set properly.
This is so very close to the maximum operating voltage of our drivers that we can experience failures sometimes. For that reason we now recommend using a power conditioner on 24v lighting systems."


Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Currently Mackay Australia


[Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Richard:

Thanks for the reply about the LED lights.

I have a 2001 Super Maramu but perhaps regarding the following there are some
similarities to you Maramu:

You wrote

" 2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?"

On my Super Maramu there are 2 panels for the main mast wiring. One is
above the companionway to the forward cabin abeam the forward head as
well as in the head above the shower head. Both areas contain wiring for
the main mast.

For the mizzen there is a panel in the aft head just to starboard of the
mirror and sink where the wiring enters. This panel is secured with a
single screw and held in place on several sides by trim pieces of wood.
The wires pass through a wire chase that traverses horizontally to starboard
just above the aft cabin door and is just below the small portlight on the
forward starboard cockpit area just above the starboard cockpit locker.

Hope that makes sense and might be of some help.

Gary


Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Eric,

Just the G4 adaptors, and the LEDs with the G4 twin wire connection. They
fitted into the existing light fixtures perfectly. I think my recent post
gives the URL for the G4 LEDs. I could not find the adaptors there and went
to SailorsSolution for them. Both sites gave extremely quick delivery

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>wrote:



Hi,

Did you purchase light bulbs or entire fixtures?

I did not see the bulbs on the website.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com<amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat
since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary

In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com<amelyachtowners%2540yahoogroups.com>>

yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have
also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from
www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded
and
by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com<amelyachtowners%2540yahoogroups.com>>

yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so
informed
questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have
removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and
twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just
failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar
at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting
the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas
cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well,
for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such
LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"




Re: [Amel] "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Dave,

Thanks for the input. I have not yet got to the stove, but will probably
will have questions when I do.

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Dave Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>wrote:



Richard,

Congrats on your new boat. We own #29.
We put a LPG tank in the stern locker. It's in a container of sorts and I
still have room for the stern anchor and rode. We'll put an extra tank on
the rail when we leave for points south. I can give you a rundown on how the
hose and wires got run. If you still have the old Eno stove you will have to
work out a connection between the hose and the stove since it's an outdated
metric fitting. We sold the stove and put in a new one. Someone paid $400
for my 30 year old stove. I was amazed.

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, rfmolony <rfmolony@gmail.com <rfmolony%40gmail.com>>
wrote:

From: rfmolony <rfmolony@gmail.com <rfmolony%40gmail.com>>
Subject: [Amel] "Popeye" & Questions
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:31 AM

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed
questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have removed
the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and twisting have
got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing rigging.
Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at the base
of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine compartment
but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast then goes, and
there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also, is there any
magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the wires in the
overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas cylinders
used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony

Maramu #91 "Popeye"















Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Barry & Robyn,

Thanks.

I'll look for the third screw.

As well as the standing rigging, most of the running rigging needs to be
replaced, there are two welds to do high up on the mast, and the masthead
wind indicator/anemometer needs repair or replacement. It just seems easier
to pull than to spend that much time trying to work at the masthead.
Leaving the mizzen in place might be an option.

I am very cautious about gas and am wary of a long run from the tank. I'll
work something out, however, as I suspect most owner have had to.

See my previous posting with regard to the LEDs and
http://ledshoponline.com/G4_LED_bulb.htm. Their service (as mentioned in a
post a long time back) has been excellent. I believe all new boats and
light fittings will be LED within a very short time.

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:10 PM, seagasm <seagasm@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi Richard, in reply to your questions may I offer a couple of solutions?

Question 1, the light on mine has three screws, not two.

Question 2, it is not necessary to remove the masts to replace the rigging.
We had the rigging replaced with the masts in place while Tradewinds was
berthed. This is not difficult to achieve, it just required the correct
procedure to remove and replace the old rigging.

Question 3, we have three 4kg bottles secured in the port aft vented locker
in side the Lazarette.

Question 4, my question is "Who was your Australian supplier for the
LED's?" I have the round surface mounted lights with Halogen bulbs. While
they do provide excellent light, they do consume the amps.

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn Tradewinds III SM 171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
"rfmolony" <rfmolony@...> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed
questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have
removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and
twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just
failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas
cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

Richard Molony <rfmolony@...>
 

Gary,

I have used the G4 adaptors from SailorsSolution and a combination of G4
6x5050SMD warm white for lower light areas and the G4 9x5050SMD cool white
from http://ledshoponline.com/G4_LED_bulb.htm for areas to be brightly lit.
The former is about or slightly brighter than the existing 15w bulbs and
very slightly whiter - the latter is bright white and much brighter than the
15w. I am very happy with the result. The white is somewhat stark, but the
soft white is not. Used in the existing cabin light fittings, the coverage
and spread is about the same as with the bulbs. Hope this helps. It is one
of the few things that I have completed and I am very happy with the
result. The power saving is significant. Now I need to change out the nav
and anchor lights if I can find the 22mm base LED festoons.

Richard

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:23 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>wrote:



Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat
since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary

In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
"ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have
also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from
www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded
and by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com<amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
"rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so
informed questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have
removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and
twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just
failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas
cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: [Amel] "Popeye" & Questions

Dave_Benjamin
 

Richard,

Congrats on your new boat. We own #29.
We put a LPG tank in the stern locker. It's in a container of sorts and I still have room for the stern anchor and rode. We'll put an extra tank on the rail when we leave for points south. I can give you a rundown on how the hose and wires got run. If you still have the old Eno stove you will have to work out a connection between the hose and the stove since it's an outdated metric fitting. We sold the stove and put in a new one. Someone paid $400 for my 30 year old stove. I was amazed.

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, rfmolony <rfmolony@gmail.com> wrote:

From: rfmolony <rfmolony@gmail.com>
Subject: [Amel] "Popeye" & Questions
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:31 AM

















Gentlemen, (and Ladies)



I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.



So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed questions. Any help would be appreciated.



1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just failed.



2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also, is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?



3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas cylinders used on the Maramu?



4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?



Respectfully,



Richard Molony

Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Did you purchase light bulbs or entire fixtures?

I did not see the bulbs on the website.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions








Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat
since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary

In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have
also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from
www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded and
by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is
currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed
questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have
removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and
twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just
failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing
rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at
the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine
compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast
then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also,
is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the
wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas
cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was
looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for
the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base
bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: "Popeye" & Questions

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

Hi Richard, in reply to your questions may I offer a couple of solutions?

Question 1, the light on mine has three screws, not two.

Question 2, it is not necessary to remove the masts to replace the rigging. We had the rigging replaced with the masts in place while Tradewinds was berthed. This is not difficult to achieve, it just required the correct procedure to remove and replace the old rigging.

Question 3, we have three 4kg bottles secured in the port aft vented locker in side the Lazarette.

Question 4, my question is "Who was your Australian supplier for the LED's?" I have the round surface mounted lights with Halogen bulbs. While they do provide excellent light, they do consume the amps.

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn Tradewinds III SM 171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@...> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also, is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"


Re: Trojan 200 vs Trojan 225 Batteries for Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

DC Battery in Miami http://www.dcbattery.com shipped 13 batteries to us while we were in Bonaire via AmCar Freight services. I am not sure if AmCar serves Antigua. The transit time was about a week and the pallet was delivered to the dock alongside our boat. The delivery driver even handed each battery over the rail to me. Total freight cost about $260.00.

We bought Fillriver Group31's from them. They fit well...modifications included shortening some of the copper straps and cutting 2 notches in the 2" deminsion piece of mahogony under the battery compartment lid. I had not planned on cutting this and you should consider this in your measurements.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387
Mackay Australia

So far the 110 amp Fullriver Grp31's have performed well.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hi everyone:
It has come time to replace my house batteries. I have no source for a Group 31 deep cycle battery with flush caps and a SS threaded stud placement that will allow me to utilize the copper tie bar between the positive and negative post for the series (24 volt) set up in my boat.

The AC Delco 1150 batteries originally fit measure 13 inches long x 6.825 inches wide x 9.5 inches tall to the top of the threaded stud and have a flush top that allows the 2x4 beam on the bottom of the bunk top to fit against the tops of the batteries:

Replacement options (i.e. available to me in Antigua) are:

1. Trojan SCS225 measuring 13.94 (almost 14 inches long) x 6.75 inches wide x 9.875 inches tall to the top of the stud

OR

2. Trojan SCS200 measuring 12.75 inches long x 6.75 inches wide x 9.75 inches tall to the top of the stud.

Neither layout of the studs will allow me to use the existing interconnect bars. I will have to have fabricated interconnect cables. Additionally I am concerned that the 2x4 hold down beam may not clear the filler caps on the top of the batteries.

Has anybody out there fitted either of these batteries to an Amel SM2000 of approximately my vintage (delivered July 2001, Hull # 335) and can tell me about their experience.

Thanks to all, Gary


Re: Trojan 200 vs Trojan 225 Batteries for Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

HI Gary

I have SM#283 I replaced my batteries with the SC 225. They fit fine but I had to have new interconect leads made. But otherwise no problems and I got a few extra amp hours.

Vito

ASM 283

Bay of Islands NZ

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hi everyone:
It has come time to replace my house batteries. I have no source for a Group 31 deep cycle battery with flush caps and a SS threaded stud placement that will allow me to utilize the copper tie bar between the positive and negative post for the series (24 volt) set up in my boat.

The AC Delco 1150 batteries originally fit measure 13 inches long x 6.825 inches wide x 9.5 inches tall to the top of the threaded stud and have a flush top that allows the 2x4 beam on the bottom of the bunk top to fit against the tops of the batteries:

Replacement options (i.e. available to me in Antigua) are:

1. Trojan SCS225 measuring 13.94 (almost 14 inches long) x 6.75 inches wide x 9.875 inches tall to the top of the stud

OR

2. Trojan SCS200 measuring 12.75 inches long x 6.75 inches wide x 9.75 inches tall to the top of the stud.

Neither layout of the studs will allow me to use the existing interconnect bars. I will have to have fabricated interconnect cables. Additionally I am concerned that the 2x4 hold down beam may not clear the filler caps on the top of the batteries.

Has anybody out there fitted either of these batteries to an Amel SM2000 of approximately my vintage (delivered July 2001, Hull # 335) and can tell me about their experience.

Thanks to all, Gary


Re: [Amel] Re: "Popeye" & Questions

amelforme
 

Hi Richard, Popeye has been well owned and you will find that boat to be
less problematic than similarly aged vessels.
I can't remember where the wire parting section for the mizzen is exactly
other than to tell you if you follow the wires from the base of the mizzen
mast you will discover the place where they are joined. I have taken the
masts off several Maramus and can't remember the mizzen details other than
to say that it is not mysterious. I am sure that a Maramu owner will come up
on the site here with the info.
Maramus were originally equipped with Campgaz/Butagaz cylinders containing
butane, not propane. You can use an individual 5lbs. U.S.A. standard steel
vertical cylinder in that tiny locker just outboard of the galley if you cut
a small V-shaped notch in the top of the carry handle that is integral to
the tank. Don't worry, just precisely where to cut the notch will be very
obvious when you try to put the cylinder in the locker. A better solution is
to employ the locker on the aft deck or to install a container on the stern
rails to carry larger aluminum alloy tanks which are worth the hefty premium
to purchase them as they last nearly forever unlike the short lived steel
cylinders. The standard warning about a perfect installation as propane is
heavier than air and will take you and the boat to smithereens if propane
escapes and accumulates in the interior. Be careful to be sure of the
absolute integrity of the entire system.
Did Peter Grimm take good care of your sail updates?

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


Re: "Popeye" & Questions

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Ann-Sophie
Would you please comment on the characteristics of the light in your boat since switching to LEDs.
- are the bulbs as bright?
- is the color of the light pleasing or stark
- is the light directional or flood like?
thanks , Gary


In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ladyannila" <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

Hi Richard
and welcome to the Amel Group
your two first issiues I hope some one else can help you with. We have also changed to LED almost every where in the boat. We bought ours from www.sailorssolution.com I can realy recommend them, very service minded and by now they know all about electricity on an Amel

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila #232


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@> wrote:

Gentlemen, (and Ladies)

I have purchased "Popeye", Amel Maramu Hull 91 from Bill Klein. She is currently lying in the Anclote River, Tarpon Springs in Florida.

So now instead of Bill's good advice, you are getting my not so informed questions. Any help would be appreciated.

1. I need to replace the bulb in the cockpit/hardtop light. I have removed the two small screws from the glass, but despite prising and twisting have got no further. This may be another intelligence test I just failed.

2. I will be pulling the masts to replace the (original) standing rigging. Where does one disconnect the electrical connection to the radar at the base of the mizzen mast? I have looked in the aft part of the engine compartment but can't see if and where the tube from the base of the mast then goes, and there appears to be no access from the aft head area. Also, is there any magic involved with the main mast, apart from disconnecting the wires in the overhead breaker panel outside the for'd head?

3. Does anyone know a US source for the (very) small propane gas cylinders used on the Maramu?

4. I have replaced all of the interior light bulbs with LEDs, and was looking to replace those in the nav, anchor and steaming lights as well, for the current saving. The Australian source I used does not have 22mm base bulbs, only 15mm. Does anyone know of a US or European source for such LEDs?

Respectfully,

Richard Molony
Maramu #91 "Popeye"