On 10 June 2020 at 22:57 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Danny, I thought you once before suggested in a previous post to flush a swivel at the top of the mast, and I assumed there must be a swivel at the very top of the mast to keep the foil centered ,but maybe not. Ok then I will flush it well and see if that does the trick. Sorry I misunderstood what you were referring to ,first time around. 

Thanks,

Pat

SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2020 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler

Yes Pat  that is the one I was referring to

Regards

Danny

On 10 June 2020 at 08:28 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Danny , Its not the top swivel that is the problem, its is the swivel/car which pulls up the sail that is having a problem. I suppose I will first flush it out well before I take it apart and see if that helps. 

Thanks,

Pat

SM #123

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2020 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler

Hi Pat,

before you start any disassembly try this. Lower the sail and flush the swivel with copious quantities of fresh water. Despite the fact it is at the top of the mast it will have salt in it and this is a common cause of the symptoms you have. As to the manual mizzen furler gear box mine was getting so tight I feared causing damage while turning the winch handle.. I took the fiber collar off the input shaft and squirted fresh water in vigorously. I then did the same to the gearbox top and bottom.  I left the gearbox and the swivel to dry out on a sunny day and then sprayed both with silicon. Now the mizzen launches with a tug on the out haul line. No turning of the gearbox by hand the sail goes out brrrrrrrrt. The swivels on the main and head sail need the same treatment. Because they are operated electrically we are not so aware of the friction. Breakers popping during operation can be a symptom, as is the foil on the mainsail fracturing. Likewise bending of the horns on the headsail furler although there are other causes for that as well.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 10 June 2020 at 00:19 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

I have a problem with the mizzen furler not able to rotate 360 degrees. I have determined that the problem is within the swivel part of the furler. It will rotate freely ,but then binds up and needs to be forced to be able to rotate. I need to take it off and separate the two parts , I assume the bearings have degraded . When I slide it down and off the foil will ball bearings fall out ? How are the parts separated ? Has anyone done this before. I will also try to disassemble the gearbox to clean and grease it while it is off.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

 

 

10 juni 2020 kl. 14:29 skrev Ирина Полищук <irrinapolishchuk@...>:

Does anyone know where I can buy or order with delivery a spare part for the bow thruster? my boat is amel super maramu 2000. i'm currently in thailand

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On 10 June 2020 at 08:28 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Danny , Its not the top swivel that is the problem, its is the swivel/car which pulls up the sail that is having a problem. I suppose I will first flush it out well before I take it apart and see if that helps. 

Thanks,

Pat

SM #123

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2020 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler

Hi Pat,

before you start any disassembly try this. Lower the sail and flush the swivel with copious quantities of fresh water. Despite the fact it is at the top of the mast it will have salt in it and this is a common cause of the symptoms you have. As to the manual mizzen furler gear box mine was getting so tight I feared causing damage while turning the winch handle.. I took the fiber collar off the input shaft and squirted fresh water in vigorously. I then did the same to the gearbox top and bottom.  I left the gearbox and the swivel to dry out on a sunny day and then sprayed both with silicon. Now the mizzen launches with a tug on the out haul line. No turning of the gearbox by hand the sail goes out brrrrrrrrt. The swivels on the main and head sail need the same treatment. Because they are operated electrically we are not so aware of the friction. Breakers popping during operation can be a symptom, as is the foil on the mainsail fracturing. Likewise bending of the horns on the headsail furler although there are other causes for that as well.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 10 June 2020 at 00:19 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

I have a problem with the mizzen furler not able to rotate 360 degrees. I have determined that the problem is within the swivel part of the furler. It will rotate freely ,but then binds up and needs to be forced to be able to rotate. I need to take it off and separate the two parts , I assume the bearings have degraded . When I slide it down and off the foil will ball bearings fall out ? How are the parts separated ? Has anyone done this before. I will also try to disassemble the gearbox to clean and grease it while it is off.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

 

On Jun 9, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

 

I did something a little bit stupid. When working in the engine room, I pressed against the 24v pump for the fresh water maker. When I did, the two wires pulled away from the solenoid and I have no idea which terminals are used for the re-connection. 

 

Could somebody with a D60 24v Dessalator water maker take a look please and let me know the correct way to connect the wires. Many thanks!

 

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With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

We have the Onan 11kw on our A54 and after fixing the solar wiring (bad install), we are finding that we don't need to use the generator anymore here in sunny Maui. 

In the 6 weeks since we have been stationary, the generator has not been used at all despite running the dishwasher, washing machine, water maker, water heater, icemaker, etc. daily. Given Covid - I have no idea how long we will be here. At what point do I need to consider preparing the generator for non-use / wintering? Since we bought her, we have lived aboard full-time save for one month last summer, so we haven't really had to winterize anything yet. 

I considered running fresh water through the SW circuit, but wouldn't that passivate the heat exchanger zinc?

Thoughts on how long we can just leave the Onan unused without active winterization measures? 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

On 10 June 2020 at 00:19 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

I have a problem with the mizzen furler not able to rotate 360 degrees. I have determined that the problem is within the swivel part of the furler. It will rotate freely ,but then binds up and needs to be forced to be able to rotate. I need to take it off and separate the two parts , I assume the bearings have degraded . When I slide it down and off the foil will ball bearings fall out ? How are the parts separated ? Has anyone done this before. I will also try to disassemble the gearbox to clean and grease it while it is off.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

9 juni 2020 kl. 18:04 skrev Gary Silver via groups.io <garysilver@...>:

Hi Pat: 

It is unclear to me what you are referring to when you say, "the problem is in the swivel part of the fuller".  
Are you unable to crank the winch handle drive more than 360 degrees?
Have you verified that something isn't holding the foil (attached to the gearbox with a bolt) from turning?

Please see this file and read it completely, https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/filessearch?q=mizzen+furler before proceeding.  

The most common cause (in my experience) for difficulty turning the mizzen furling is due to "crud" build up of salt and debris on the winch handle drive-shaft within the bore of the mizzen mast.  When I was re-assembling the mizzen gearbox (having discovered that dis-assembly was completely un-necessary) I found that if the gearbox shaft (item #10 in the exploded parts diagram in my file noted above) wasn't completely seated then the bevel gears would bind.  Perhaps your shaft has backed out slightly causing this binding effect.  I doubt that, but it is worth investigating.  THERE IS NO GREASE IN THE MIZZEN FURLING GEAR BOX!!!  I suppose it is possible that there is broken tooth on the bevel gears that might lock things up but you can inspect for that by viewing the gears through the mounting bolt hole on the side of the gearbox (where the bolts that hold in the mast go).  Look at the file, separate the foil from the gearbox to assure the foil isn't binding, remove the gearbox from the mast taking care to note the order of the washers and spacers, inspect for broken teeth on the gears, remove, clean and re-install the shaft for the winch handle and only then if you still have trouble disassemble the gearbox.  That disassembly is a huge job and will yield minimal results (watched Brian on Delos do that job and destroy the end of the gearbox, requiring new parts to be machined).  Any other questions or clarification don't hesitate to give me a call  801-543-5801.

All the best, 

Gary S. SIlver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico