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Re: Hardtop for Amel 54
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Barry;
We have been looking at adding the hardtop for a while and plan on doing it in 2022 due delays caused by COVID-19. Since it appears you have added solar to your cockpit top, which is what we are planning, I wanted to know the impact of shading on your solar panels. How many watts of solar panels do you have installed and what kind of output in Amp Hours due you get on a typical day?
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:55 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54
I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line.
Very Best
Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
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Re: Hardtop for Amel 54
I have attached some photos showing how I raised the boom line. Very Best Barry and Penny “SV Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique
On Jul 10, 2020, at 03:47, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Porter McRoberts
All excellent points Scott.
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Cold seawater is much better at cooling than warm seawater!!! We actually installed an air-cooled compressor for the main deep freeze, so its not in the circuit. That has helped with unsyncronized pump demand, but it does heat up the galley a bit. All are waiting for the brushless solution. Thanks, Porter/IBIS A54-152
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Scott SV Tengah
Porter - I run freshwater through the pump so scale/lime isn't really affecting me. Pump still dies prematurely. The Frigoboat UK spec'd pump (4105-343 Flojet) is 24v and flows 3.3gpm. The Frigoboat compressors require 1gpm per the VECO documentation. Per my earlier post from Penguin UK, the concept is that a 24v pump running on 12v will be acceptable for continuous duty - that is not the case obviously. Rudolf - Mohammad Shirloo, in the Med, has the same longevity as you. Apparently his pump has lasted over a decade. But two things help explain that: 1) Neither of you are full time. 2) Both of you are in the cooler Med. Oliver said that after he changed the insulation on his galley freezer, his pump was running 15% (or thereabouts) duty cycle in Portugal. Now that he's in the tropics, it's up to 75% duty cycle. This mirrors my experience as my Flojet pump lasted far longer when I was in the Med. It appears the combination of higher ambient temperatures and higher water temperatures when he left the Med increased his pump usage by 5x. Curious - do you run the freezer? We often run two fridges and the freezer. With the three "unsynchronized" compressors, the pump runs nearly 24/7. And with longer continuous running periods, the brush temp goes up a lot. And above a certain temp, brush wear appears to be exponentially higher. Based on this, we are trying to find a brushless solution.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 7:47 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
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Re: Dive Compressor on a SM
hanspeter baettig
Hello Paul
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Can you please send me your contact infos for the Coltri dive compressor. I'm hesitating between the Bauer Junior and Coltri. I know the Coltri Company in Italy. You can email me direct; hanspeter dot baettig at bluemail dot ch Thanks Hanspeter SM 16, Tamango 2
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Re: Dive Compressor on a SM
Paul Guenette
Hi Thomas,
I recently purchased a Coltri MCH 6 single phase 220 volt 50 hz with a inox stainless steel frame for $3,500.00 that fits nicely into the space. I am happy with it. I can send you the contact information for the company and person purchased it from if you wish, (they gave me a good price on some Mares diving gear too). If you do not have scuba tanks yet, let me know, I have a good contact for those too. (I met you and Kirstin briefly on the docks at Shelter Island marina in Panama, April 2019) Cheers, Paul Aramis, SM 2000 - 444, San Francisco Bay, California
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Hi Dean, You’re absolutely correct with the E51385 Interface.
Yes, all ok on WASABI and hope you both are well doing too. BTW: we will winterize in Spain this year and postponed the Atlantic crossing to next season. Cheers Ruedi Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Dean Gillies <stella@...> Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Datum: Freitag, 10. Juli 2020 um 15:09 An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica) Hi Ruedi,
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Re: Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.
Ian, your model and hull number...it makes a big difference.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:58 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote: I can’t find any breaker for the bow thruster and genoa furler motor. There is a 100amp fuse located in the bow thruster recess near the solenoids.
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Santorin Bow Thruster/genoa furler breaker.
Ian Park
I can’t find any breaker for the bow thruster and genoa furler motor. There is a 100amp fuse located in the bow thruster recess near the solenoids.
also when I turned off the main 12v power for the boat the furler and bow thruster were still live! I think an extra live main bus stud was added as so many wires were on the original. I need to investigate this pdq! But in the interim can any one tell be if and where the ‘disrupteur’ might be located on a Santorin. It is not in the bow thruster locker of either of the forward lockers in the fore cabin. thanks.
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Re: Cutting the main instrument display acrylic panel
Billy,
What's your boat name, model, hull # and location? I've not seen acrylic instrument mounting panels on Amels (just acrylic switch panels), but maybe newer models have that. On my SN I had to enlarge the openings for my new B&G MFD's but that's in fiberglass and, yes, the oscillating saw is the right tool. On acrylic there's a risk of melting the material and getting a nasty ragged edge but you can do it by going slowly and rotating the blade continuously to avoid overheating it. I see they want a 15mm / 19/32" radius on the corners so you'll want to do those first with a drill bit or hole saw, then cut the straight sections with the saw. Craig
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Porter McRoberts
As with the heart, the condition of the arteries predicts the condition of the pump?
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I'm sure we've all changed many an old seawater line. Lime and scale. Marine atherosclerosis. I’m no cardiologist, but surely the resistance in the system would influence pump failure as well. How might we measure this without a bloodpressure cuff? I bet we're not 120/80. Porter McRoberts A54-152
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Hi Ruedi,
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Hi all First I have to say the Fridge-cooling on WASABI is running fine and constantly since 3 years without any issue (living 8-10 Month per year on WASABI). I never replaced the pump and it’s running many hours a day. Nevertheless I bought a spare Frigoboat Pump and a spare controller just in case (see pics). I have no idea why these pump is always breaking @ other A54. Maybe not using the original pumps? So I hear Bill Rouse saying: “Always use original parts as designed for the boat” ;-)
I try to explain what the E51385 is doing in my opinion and excuse me if I bother you with broadly known information. - The Frigoboat E51385 is a DC24-12V converter and power driver to source the needed AMP’s to the pump, because the Fan output F port (which is minus) is not designed to deliver enough Amp’s for the pump on 12V. The E51385 is a Voltage driver (converter) as noted on the schema, which was in my Pump-Box (see Pictures attached). - The mentioned schema also shows that if I run a 12V boat Voltage, I can connect the pump with an extra relay controlled by the Fan output, but power-sourced for the pump is the house-battery. Electrically the same as Bill’s proposal. - I opened my spare box and you can see in the middle of the board the blue 12V potentio-meter (or trimmer, - sorry my English is not perfect). It’s the converter regulator to bring any 24V down to 12V. Therefore the Frigoboat controller should never deliver 24V to the pump.
I know it’s very confusing that the controller shows the 24V LED on. The LED just indicates; “these is a 24V driven boat”. The LED shows 24V because the Battery Minus goes directly to the E51385. So it shows the 24V between the minus and the plus coming from the FAN-Output (+). The plus from the Danfos controller is the same plus as the input source and gives 24V against the minus at the E51385. The F wire (-) is only the trigger wire. All together it sounds strange but these 24V is converting to 12V at the E51385 for the pump. Don't be confused with the 24V LED. Bill’s proposed project is more clear and will certainly run as well. But it’s more or less the same with electrical (discrete components) as the E51385 which is build with transistor components electronically. In conclusion: I don’t think Bill's solution will change the wear of a pump and the problem will stay unless these Frigoboat converters are doing something strange which harms the pumps (but I don’t think so). Hope this helps a bit to get light into the blue Frigoboard “magic box”, and excuse my limited English.
Best regards Ruedi and Sabina Waldispuehl AMEL-54 Nbr. 55 Currently in Santa Maria di Leuca
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Cutting the main instrument display acrylic panel
Billy Newport
My B&G Vulcan 7FS failed at the helm and i purchased a new Vulcan 7R. Because its a boat, its mounting system is slightly different so I need to enlarge the hole and drill new holes. I'm thinking of using an oscillating saw to do this work and I'm wondering if anyone else has installed new instruments on those panels and how they did it?
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Re: Bottom paint removal
James Alton
Jarek, Best, James Alton SV Sueño Maramu #220
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Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)
Hi Porter, You are correct that a 24V pump operated at12V would deliver about half the volume, and yes the volume is certainly important for the cooling performance. However, as with medication, the correct amount is best, more than enough is not necessarily better due to side effects (pump wear).
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Re: Bottom paint removal
Mark McGovern
Paul,
The keel did not yet have the bottom paint applied to it in the picture I posted. The gray color is the epoxy coating. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Dive Compressor on a SM
Sorry, no reason to stop you.
We have one..it's brilliant, not just for us, but helping others to fill their bottles when 000's of miles from civilisation. We were in Suwarrow in 2014 and one boat had wrapped their chain around a bommie. He soon ran out of air and asked me "you don't have a compressor on board do you?", YUP we do, and two full bottles...so bring your bottle and take one of ours while I fill yours ! ... got him out of trouble! Only down side is it is VERY NOISY !! Overall you won't regret it. It's only money after all. What else are you going to do with it ? Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Bottom paint removal
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Mark,
I may have missed something in this thread, but why is the keel a different colour?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark McGovern
Sent: 09 July 2020 17:00 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal
Pat,
HHN uses fairly large timbers for a boat our size - roughly 8"x8". It gave me just enough room to lay on my side, and use and grind the old epoxy back. It was gruelling work and OSHA would definitely not approve as I had to remove the safety guard off the angle grinder, as well the handle, and use it one-handed - pretty much by "feel" since I couldn't see the surface I was grinding while grinding. It came out OK, but as I said above, in hindsight, I should have just let Osprey do the whole thing. Here is a pic of the finished keel:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:11 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Hardtop for Amel 54
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Barry,
This is something I’ve been interested in too. What changes did you make to the boom line? Would you have a photo?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: 10 July 2020 00:42 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54
Hello Amel 54 owners, -- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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