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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

no I don't all that you need to do is have the Stainless cut closer to the deck then finish the edges to avoid chafing cheers


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney. 
Do you have a photo of your modification to the cable routing that allows drainage?  
Might be quite helpful 
Thank you!!

Porter
A54-152



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On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

 It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.   
Thanks  Courtney, Scott. 
Porter A54-152

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On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter the water caused corrosion in the brake which then caused the motor to burn out hopefully for you it is just a wire for me it was a new motor.
Cheers stay safe
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney.  

I have the same loop in the wires coming out of the EJF.  
This am the delivery captain tells me the EJF unfurls, but does not furl.

What were the symptoms of your failure?  

Im praying a loose wire explains it.  

Thanks Amigo.

Porter
A54-152


Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

awesome glad that is all it was
Cheers!


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.   
Thanks  Courtney, Scott. 
Porter A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.net

On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter the water caused corrosion in the brake which then caused the motor to burn out hopefully for you it is just a wire for me it was a new motor.
Cheers stay safe
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney.  

I have the same loop in the wires coming out of the EJF.  
This am the delivery captain tells me the EJF unfurls, but does not furl.

What were the symptoms of your failure?  

Im praying a loose wire explains it.  

Thanks Amigo.

Porter
A54-152


Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

Robert Giroux
 

They just need to redirect HTTP requests to HTTPS, they will know how.

 

 

Regards,

Robert Giroux

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

 

Thanks for letting me know, not sure why…. Will ask my tech support.  

May be try using the secure link (https instead of http)

https://www.supermaramu2000.com

 

Sincerely, Alexandre

 

 

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:04:39 AM CDT, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:

 

 

Alexandre,

 

I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully.

 

Vr,

Brian K. Riggs

Future Amel Owner

 

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel owners, 

 

It is coming on 3 years NIKIMAT was lost, I am slowly moving on and eventually will use the domain name for another project.  

 

Therefore, I do not want all the illustrations to be lost, so I put them on a new site called:

 

www.SuperMaramu2000.com

 

(With a bit of sadness selecting the pictures) I added a “Tour” (when I took possession of the vessel and completely emptied it).  

Despite many information being missing, I hope future owners will enjoy the pictures, seeing the inside of the cabinets, some of the features, etc.  

 

The links or page names will remain the same, for example:  

www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

becomes

www.supermaramu2000/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you see dead link / missing pages, let me know (forum or direct email).  

 

Nikimat.com will stay up for sometime, but start referring the new domain name.  

 

Note: I have SuperMaramu.com for sale for $100.  

 

I still keep an eye on the forum and hope to continue to meet and see again some of you.  

 

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Porter McRoberts
 

Courtney. 
Do you have a photo of your modification to the cable routing that allows drainage?  
Might be quite helpful 
Thank you!!

Porter
A54-152



Excuse the errors.  
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.   
Thanks  Courtney, Scott. 
Porter A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.net

On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter the water caused corrosion in the brake which then caused the motor to burn out hopefully for you it is just a wire for me it was a new motor.
Cheers stay safe
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney.  

I have the same loop in the wires coming out of the EJF.  
This am the delivery captain tells me the EJF unfurls, but does not furl.

What were the symptoms of your failure?  

Im praying a loose wire explains it.  

Thanks Amigo.

Porter
A54-152


Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

Dennis Johns
 

We shipped Libertad from Thailand to Turkey using Sevenstar and from Panama to Ensenada using United Yacht Transport.  In both cases we were advised to remove all sails and canvas which we did.  When the boat arrived they were indeed filthy from a combination of soot and misc soils but there was no damage because of the soils.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:03 PM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ladies and Gents.

A quick question if you would. We’re in the midst of shipping our Amel out of NZ with Sevenstar.   Incidentally the delivery skipper encountered the marina manager who relayed multiple horror stories of transport ship’s smokestack ash and embers causing severe burns to sails, canvas sailboat decks etc. Needless to say I was taken aback. This was never discussed in our pregame !!! 
Has anyone else encountered such issues? 

I’d really appreciate any input.

Many thanks.

Porter

A54-152.




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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Porter McRoberts
 

It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.   
Thanks  Courtney, Scott. 
Porter A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:


Porter the water caused corrosion in the brake which then caused the motor to burn out hopefully for you it is just a wire for me it was a new motor.
Cheers stay safe
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney.  

I have the same loop in the wires coming out of the EJF.  
This am the delivery captain tells me the EJF unfurls, but does not furl.

What were the symptoms of your failure?  

Im praying a loose wire explains it.  

Thanks Amigo.

Porter
A54-152


Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Matt Salatino
 

You’re an excellent example. Do you leave the boat for any extended period? If so, how do you store the watermaker?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 14, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

When we were getting familiar with Kokomo, I had discussed when the back flush was necessary with Martin at Dessalator.  He stated that it is unnecessary to back flush after making water, if you intend to make more water withing the next 7 days. He mentioned that it is a waste of 25 liters of water. When we are on board, about 5-6 months every year, we almost never back flush since we only fill the tank with dessalator water, and therefore never go beyond the 7 days.

 

Our original membranes are still functioning fine after 12 years and almost 600 hours of water maker run time. The water made is usually below 250 PPM.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:07 AM
To: mail@...; main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

 

I have the same issue I have not taken care of it yet bypass is to make water but do not rinse then there is no issue discovered the problem after making nearly 700 liters of water then waking up to an empty tank.

Cheers

Courtney

Trippin

54 #101

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 6:20 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Dear Amelians,

today I had a wierd situation with my duo D 100.

After turning it off, it did the fresh water rinse like usual, but did not stop.

I checked for a leak (in the entire boat) but there is no leak and no open tap.

I closed the fresh water valve for the water maker, the rinsing stops.

I opened the valve, then the fresh water pump starts again (with rinsing).

During the process of making water there is no problem, the fresh water pump is not running.

Thus now I have to close the valve every time after using the water maker.

That is possible, but not like it should be.

 

Btw: If I open the fresh water valve for the water maker again (at least) 1 hour later, the pressure is (mostly) stable, no pump is running.

What could be the reason/ problem?
The solenoid (parallel to the filter)?

Thx a lot for your help.

Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE, AMEL 54 N119, currently 40 miles to Aruba


Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Porter,
Here is Tip #6 of "How to Prepare Your Boat for Transport" from the Speitloff / DYT website: 

"Tip #6:
 Protect the outside of your yacht form (sic) soot, salt, etc. with shrink wrap. If your vessel is too large to cover completely, just stick to the most vulnerable areas such as teak and non-skid surfaces. Also cover all stainless steel and chrome fittings or apply an insulator wax to this exposed metal. If possible, remove and store the windshields."

They then add the sentence: "If you’re transporting a sailing yacht: Remove sails or protect them with covers..."

We shipped ours from Genoa to Palm Beach with just the sails off and canvas removed. 
After pulling up to the freighter for loading in Genoa, we stayed on our boat for the crane lift (exciting!), then got off onto the freighter's cargo deck. We stayed for a couple of hours to button up our boat and spoke at length with the Captain, taking a look around the ship as we had contemplated taking a cabin for the crossing, which in hindsight would have been fun. Yes, every outside surface of the ship is really dirty but the exhaust is as Bill Rouse describes and not belching fiery ash. 

Upon arrival in Palm Beach we did have a few globs of heavy grease from the cranes but the boat was pretty clean. I recall only a few of the boats being shipped had shrink-wrap - mostly the power yachts.

That our boat was clean may have been partly due to being washed off by severe thunderstorms they had on reaching Florida. Good news / bad news:  the boat was clean but we had $100,000 of lightning damage from the EMF of a nearby hit (not direct). The transport insurance covered it but fully depreciates all equipment because you are no longer a "yacht", with "new-for-old" coverage, you are "marine cargo" with a "no betterment" depreciation clause. 

Thus, for example, all electronics, autopilot, radar, etc. were depreciated to $0.00 because they were the original Amel installed 1992 equipment, the damage was in 2015 and electronics are on a 10 year depreciation schedule. We still came out well compensated as they do cover estimated repair labor and I do all my own work. (The estimates were from Palm Beach Yacht Repair contractor$.) 

Caveat Emptor - They do not tell you about the depreciation when you sign up! (It may be buried in the fine print.)  We happened to transit with another sailboat (similar damage - some 13 boats were hit). That boat's owner was an insurance lawyer - she verified that was indeed the case, as, like us, she had assumed the transit insurance would be the same as her yacht policy and she was not versed in the nuances of marine cargo insurance. Btw, the carrier for Speitloff/DYT is Pantaenius, who also had our regular yacht insurance. Our claim was handled very well, notwithstanding the surprise depreciation clause.

Good luck with your transit.
Craig


Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Brian, 


I just called my tech support which added a certificate to the site.  Should be up in less than 24 hours, therefore it doesn’t make much sense that one site (nikimat.com) is safe and the new one is not…. 

Please let me know in 24 hours if it is better.  

If a future SM2K owner, I think you will enjoy the “Tour” pictures I added.  Aside from very few addition from the previous owner, it is as original as you can get.  


Sincerely, Alexandre



On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:04:39 AM CDT, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:


Alexandre,

I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully.

Vr,
Brian K. Riggs
Future Amel Owner


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel owners, 


It is coming on 3 years NIKIMAT was lost, I am slowly moving on and eventually will use the domain name for another project.  


Therefore, I do not want all the illustrations to be lost, so I put them on a new site called:


www.SuperMaramu2000.com


(With a bit of sadness selecting the pictures) I added a “Tour” (when I took possession of the vessel and completely emptied it).  
Despite many information being missing, I hope future owners will enjoy the pictures, seeing the inside of the cabinets, some of the features, etc.  


The links or page names will remain the same, for example:  

www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

becomes

www.supermaramu2000/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you see dead link / missing pages, let me know (forum or direct email).  


Nikimat.com will stay up for sometime, but start referring the new domain name.  


Note: I have SuperMaramu.com for sale for $100.  


I still keep an eye on the forum and hope to continue to meet and see again some of you.  


Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

When we were getting familiar with Kokomo, I had discussed when the back flush was necessary with Martin at Dessalator.  He stated that it is unnecessary to back flush after making water, if you intend to make more water withing the next 7 days. He mentioned that it is a waste of 25 liters of water. When we are on board, about 5-6 months every year, we almost never back flush since we only fill the tank with dessalator water, and therefore never go beyond the 7 days.

 

Our original membranes are still functioning fine after 12 years and almost 600 hours of water maker run time. The water made is usually below 250 PPM.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:07 AM
To: mail@...; main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

 

I have the same issue I have not taken care of it yet bypass is to make water but do not rinse then there is no issue discovered the problem after making nearly 700 liters of water then waking up to an empty tank.

Cheers

Courtney

Trippin

54 #101

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 6:20 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Dear Amelians,

today I had a wierd situation with my duo D 100.

After turning it off, it did the fresh water rinse like usual, but did not stop.

I checked for a leak (in the entire boat) but there is no leak and no open tap.

I closed the fresh water valve for the water maker, the rinsing stops.

I opened the valve, then the fresh water pump starts again (with rinsing).

During the process of making water there is no problem, the fresh water pump is not running.

Thus now I have to close the valve every time after using the water maker.

That is possible, but not like it should be.

 

Btw: If I open the fresh water valve for the water maker again (at least) 1 hour later, the pressure is (mostly) stable, no pump is running.

What could be the reason/ problem?
The solenoid (parallel to the filter)?

Thx a lot for your help.

Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE, AMEL 54 N119, currently 40 miles to Aruba


Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks for letting me know, not sure why…. Will ask my tech support.  

May be try using the secure link (https instead of http)

https://www.supermaramu2000.com


Sincerely, Alexandre


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:04:39 AM CDT, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:


Alexandre,

I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully.

Vr,
Brian K. Riggs
Future Amel Owner


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel owners, 


It is coming on 3 years NIKIMAT was lost, I am slowly moving on and eventually will use the domain name for another project.  


Therefore, I do not want all the illustrations to be lost, so I put them on a new site called:


www.SuperMaramu2000.com


(With a bit of sadness selecting the pictures) I added a “Tour” (when I took possession of the vessel and completely emptied it).  
Despite many information being missing, I hope future owners will enjoy the pictures, seeing the inside of the cabinets, some of the features, etc.  


The links or page names will remain the same, for example:  

www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

becomes

www.supermaramu2000/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you see dead link / missing pages, let me know (forum or direct email).  


Nikimat.com will stay up for sometime, but start referring the new domain name.  


Note: I have SuperMaramu.com for sale for $100.  


I still keep an eye on the forum and hope to continue to meet and see again some of you.  


Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

Brian Riggs
 

Alexandre,

I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully.

Vr,
Brian K. Riggs
Future Amel Owner


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel owners, 


It is coming on 3 years NIKIMAT was lost, I am slowly moving on and eventually will use the domain name for another project.  


Therefore, I do not want all the illustrations to be lost, so I put them on a new site called:


www.SuperMaramu2000.com


(With a bit of sadness selecting the pictures) I added a “Tour” (when I took possession of the vessel and completely emptied it).  
Despite many information being missing, I hope future owners will enjoy the pictures, seeing the inside of the cabinets, some of the features, etc.  


The links or page names will remain the same, for example:  

www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

becomes

www.supermaramu2000/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you see dead link / missing pages, let me know (forum or direct email).  


Nikimat.com will stay up for sometime, but start referring the new domain name.  


Note: I have SuperMaramu.com for sale for $100.  


I still keep an eye on the forum and hope to continue to meet and see again some of you.  


Sincerely, Alexandre


Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Dear Amel owners, 


It is coming on 3 years NIKIMAT was lost, I am slowly moving on and eventually will use the domain name for another project.  


Therefore, I do not want all the illustrations to be lost, so I put them on a new site called:


www.SuperMaramu2000.com


(With a bit of sadness selecting the pictures) I added a “Tour” (when I took possession of the vessel and completely emptied it).  
Despite many information being missing, I hope future owners will enjoy the pictures, seeing the inside of the cabinets, some of the features, etc.  


The links or page names will remain the same, for example:  

www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

becomes

www.supermaramu2000/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

If you see dead link / missing pages, let me know (forum or direct email).  


Nikimat.com will stay up for sometime, but start referring the new domain name.  


Note: I have SuperMaramu.com for sale for $100.  


I still keep an eye on the forum and hope to continue to meet and see again some of you.  


Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: "ISOLATED GROUND" for Main engines and generators

 

I changed the subject of this thread. I answered Marco below. Anyone else reading this thread, please note that this mistake is commonly made by yards and mechanics changing engines. It can also happen when a mechanic "repairs" a "no-start problem." Many "no-start problems" are the result of a failed 12-volt negative solenoid, which is part of the Isolated Ground system. I know of too many situations where the mechanic by-passed this solenoid, invalidating the Isolated Ground system.

Marco, no I do not have a schematic of the Amel Bonding (yellow/green wire). Also, it is important to note, that Amel refined and changed this wiring and what was connected over many years with many changes. This bonding wiring schematic was not documented in any detail until the Amel 50 manual, which seems to be very complete and designed in such a way that a novice can understand most of the detail.

When discussing this with your mechanic, it may be useful to tell him that the Amel Bonding system and the Main Engine and Onan Isolated Ground (12-volt Negative) is similar to what many boat builders use when producing an aluminum boat to prevent the aluminum hull. from disintegrating from electrolysis. You will know that you have the wrong mechanic if he tells you that this is not necessary. If he installed a non-isolated ground engine, I believe that you should make changes to the 12-volt connections engine, and until you do make changes, you should maintain a good anode on the propeller as well as the rudder.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:27 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
Dear Bill thanks a lot for your valuable  information. I will go thought with the mechanic it and I let you know. 
Do you have a schemE of the SM GROUND LINE, I MEAN the cable that  connect all the metallic objects on board and that end up on the rudder axis? 
I don’t remember if in the  engine compartment the ground line  exist as a wire  or it is substituted by the steel frame on which is ploughed the engine and then the ground line  continue as a wire in the aft cabin untill the rudder axis . 
On the other hand I remember that the aft keel bolt , the C transmission are connected to the engine frame. Do I remember exactly ?
really thanks for your support . It will be a pleasure sailing with you in the Naples Bay . 
marco 



Il giorno 13 lug 2020, alle ore 14:53, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:

Marco,

I attached a page from my Amel Book which my answer your question. If not, email me at brouse@...

Best,

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:46 PM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
Bill it is nice to have your comment . 
I have to check for this .
What do you mean ? I think I don’t have sufficient knoweldge about your question.  May please provide me additiional info ? 
as you may image we carry 2 alternators one for the 12 volt engine / onan battery charger ant another one at 24 volt for the other batteries. 
cheers 


Il giorno 05 lug 2020, alle ore 21:30, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:

Did your mechanic Isolate the 12-volt negative? 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Marco,
Are you still using the AutoProp H6 with the new engine?  If yes, did you have it modified in any way?

Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Jul 5, 2020 1:18 PM, Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
dears,

the TMD22 with the mechanical gearbox (2,8 reduction factor) and the autoprop h6 was probably  never reached in our 20 years of SM  more than 2500 2600 rpm ,
The TMD22 engine characteristic curve show that the 78 hp ( the max power) is obtained at 3500 - 4200 rpm  but at 2500 the curve show 40 hp and the boat has never reached more than 7.5 knots 
Now we have moved to the yanmar 110 cv,  the new version of the yanmar 100) with gearbox with 2.3 rduction factor   (midway betwenn the 1.97 of amel 54 with 110 volvo and  2.8 of the yanmar 100 )  that is  the new version  of the well known  Yanmar 100 cv  installed by Amel  after the TMD22. In Italy due to a severe restrictions of  omologation certificate we had also to afford the cost of new homologation certificate but we hare happy with this change . indeed the boat seems to go much better, it has a cruise speed of 8,5  at 2300 rpm over 3200rpm ( max engine regime)  and also in the manoeuvres she is more prompt than before . 
cheers and good wind . 
marco mancini 
SM 304 




Il giorno 25 giu 2020, alle ore 16:55, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> ha scritto:

This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain







<Amel Isolated Ground (12DC Negative) Engines and Generators.pdf>


Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

 

I have only one experience shipping and that was through Pirate Alley and up the Red Sea. There was no ash on any of the 18 yachts on the deck of a BBC ship (German company) that had been chartered by SevenStar. I am amazed that the story you quoted included ash and smoke debris inside the yacht because the yachts are not left open. I think this marina manager has retold this story multiple times exaggerating what he is told, and maybe he has a "friend" that is a delivery captain.

First, let's logically examine this: The stack is at the aft of all transport ships that I have seen and it is some unusual conditions that the wind will blow from the aft forward and down to the deck while the ship is cruising at 22kts. 

Secondly, a fact: The exhaust of transport ships is checked and analyzed in many ports in the world looking to collect a fine for excess carbon at a micron level. The only ships that risk this huge fine are certainly not the ships used by any legitimate operator. 

Thirdly, and for what it is worth, personal experience: I have spent many days and hours on the decks of cruise ships that have their stack(s) forward of the stern. The only time I ever experienced any similar situation was at a dock in Mexico where a Carnival Cruise ship was burning what smelled like garbage while tied to the dock. I saw the smoke and smelled it, but no ash.

Fourth, if something like the marina manager described were to happen, SevenStar provides you with an insurance policy.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:32 PM Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:
We have shipped many yachts around the World, superyachts and our own Amel. We have experience with top loading and float on/float off shipping.
No matter what, cover and protect everything you can, the exhaust soot does stain the boats, so too the rust fragments from the exhaust stacks. Rust stains will be all over the gel coat.
The ships are old, have done thousands of hours at sea, they are cargo ships and thus are not spotless and or clean running.
The special shrink wrap plastic we use on all the transported yachts does leave a residue and you will need to have your yacht detailed and or very well cleaned at the destination, but it saves on the damage to the gel coat. If your bimini is in good condition you should cover and protect it or remove it and cover the cockpit. Even remove your sails and pack them in the lazarette or inside the yacht, to be sure they are as safe as they can be.
Vacuuming down your possessions inside the yacht is also recommended. We always covered the carpets however, I have not personally experienced any interior damage, just a heap of exterior mess to clean up upon delivery to the final destination.
The shipping company are never forthcoming on telling you about the exhaust issues, unless you actually ask them. 
On the Super Servant the deck crew wash down all the boats each and everyday, but they are shipping superyachts, sportsfishers and sailing boats and still you do get a dirty yacht at the end of the voyage. 
Trust this helps, none of the above is second hand, as stated, we have a lot of experience with shipping yachts!!
Good luck.
Brian & Sue (Australia)


Sue Mitchell
S Y Lola
+61 481 719770



On Jul 14, 2020, at 14:13, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

This is second hand so take it for what it's worth. My wife and I encountered an Amel owner in the Carib 7-8 years ago who had shipped their boat and suffered tremendous damage from smokestack ash throughout the entire boat (inside and out). It had been unfortunately positioned downwind of the ship's exhaust for 3 weeks. The boat was permeated with soot....they claimed even inside the compass (which I find not believable) but they were knee deep in litigation. Sorry for painting this image for you.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Kauia


Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney Gorman
 

Porter the water caused corrosion in the brake which then caused the motor to burn out hopefully for you it is just a wire for me it was a new motor.
Cheers stay safe
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?

Courtney.  

I have the same loop in the wires coming out of the EJF.  
This am the delivery captain tells me the EJF unfurls, but does not furl.

What were the symptoms of your failure?  

Im praying a loose wire explains it.  

Thanks Amigo.

Porter
A54-152


Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Courtney Gorman
 

I have the same issue I have not taken care of it yet bypass is to make water but do not rinse then there is no issue discovered the problem after making nearly 700 liters of water then waking up to an empty tank.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 6:20 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

Dear Amelians,

today I had a wierd situation with my duo D 100.

After turning it off, it did the fresh water rinse like usual, but did not stop.

I checked for a leak (in the entire boat) but there is no leak and no open tap.

I closed the fresh water valve for the water maker, the rinsing stops.

I opened the valve, then the fresh water pump starts again (with rinsing).

During the process of making water there is no problem, the fresh water pump is not running.

Thus now I have to close the valve every time after using the water maker.

That is possible, but not like it should be.

 

Btw: If I open the fresh water valve for the water maker again (at least) 1 hour later, the pressure is (mostly) stable, no pump is running.

What could be the reason/ problem?
The solenoid (parallel to the filter)?

Thx a lot for your help.

Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE, AMEL 54 N119, currently 40 miles to Aruba


Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?

ngtnewington Newington
 

I have stripped down these solenoids a couple of times but generally found that they still leak so recommend replacement.

Nick 
Amelia Kilada Greece


On 14 Jul 2020, at 00:34, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Agree Bill on the solenoid. Not to difficult to take apart and clean. 

Porter A54-152. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.net

On Jul 13, 2020, at 7:16 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Most likely a sticking solenoid. If you run the water maker frequently you should contact Dessalator.com for a new one. If you haven't run it for a while, monitor it and replace if it continues. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:20 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians,

today I had a wierd situation with my duo D 100.

After turning it off, it did the fresh water rinse like usual, but did not stop.

I checked for a leak (in the entire boat) but there is no leak and no open tap.

I closed the fresh water valve for the water maker, the rinsing stops.

I opened the valve, then the fresh water pump starts again (with rinsing).

During the process of making water there is no problem, the fresh water pump is not running.

Thus now I have to close the valve every time after using the water maker.

That is possible, but not like it should be.

 

Btw: If I open the fresh water valve for the water maker again (at least) 1 hour later, the pressure is (mostly) stable, no pump is running.

What could be the reason/ problem?
The solenoid (parallel to the filter)?

Thx a lot for your help.

Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE, AMEL 54 N119, currently 40 miles to Aruba


Re: Cruise and Max RPM #solution GROUND LINE #solution

Marco Mancini
 

Dear Bill thanks a lot for your valuable  information. I will go thought with the mechanic it and I let you know. 
Do you have a schemE of the SM GROUND LINE, I MEAN the cable that  connect all the metallic objects on board and that end up on the rudder axis? 
I don’t remember if in the  engine compartment the ground line  exist as a wire  or it is substituted by the steel frame on which is ploughed the engine and then the ground line  continue as a wire in the aft cabin untill the rudder axis . 
On the other hand I remember that the aft keel bolt , the C transmission are connected to the engine frame. Do I remember exactly ?
really thanks for your support . It will be a pleasure sailing with you in the Naples Bay . 
marco 



Il giorno 13 lug 2020, alle ore 14:53, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:

Marco,

I attached a page from my Amel Book which my answer your question. If not, email me at brouse@...

Best,

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:46 PM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
Bill it is nice to have your comment . 
I have to check for this .
What do you mean ? I think I don’t have sufficient knoweldge about your question.  May please provide me additiional info ? 
as you may image we carry 2 alternators one for the 12 volt engine / onan battery charger ant another one at 24 volt for the other batteries. 
cheers 


Il giorno 05 lug 2020, alle ore 21:30, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:

Did your mechanic Isolate the 12-volt negative? 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Marco,
Are you still using the AutoProp H6 with the new engine?  If yes, did you have it modified in any way?

Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Jul 5, 2020 1:18 PM, Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
dears,

the TMD22 with the mechanical gearbox (2,8 reduction factor) and the autoprop h6 was probably  never reached in our 20 years of SM  more than 2500 2600 rpm ,
The TMD22 engine characteristic curve show that the 78 hp ( the max power) is obtained at 3500 - 4200 rpm  but at 2500 the curve show 40 hp and the boat has never reached more than 7.5 knots 
Now we have moved to the yanmar 110 cv,  the new version of the yanmar 100) with gearbox with 2.3 rduction factor   (midway betwenn the 1.97 of amel 54 with 110 volvo and  2.8 of the yanmar 100 )  that is  the new version  of the well known  Yanmar 100 cv  installed by Amel  after the TMD22. In Italy due to a severe restrictions of  omologation certificate we had also to afford the cost of new homologation certificate but we hare happy with this change . indeed the boat seems to go much better, it has a cruise speed of 8,5  at 2300 rpm over 3200rpm ( max engine regime)  and also in the manoeuvres she is more prompt than before . 
cheers and good wind . 
marco mancini 
SM 304 




Il giorno 25 giu 2020, alle ore 16:55, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> ha scritto:

This is question without a definitive answer. 
We also have the TMD22. When we bought our boat (about 4 years used), we could get almost 3,000 rpm at max throttle. Our local diesel guy suggested cruising at 80% of max, or 2,400. Our max started to lessen within about a year. 
Ever since then, we have usually not been able to max out at 3,000. Usually max is 2,400 to 2,600, so we cruise at 80% of that.
Issues affecting max cruise rpm include bottom, prop (even one barnacle can make a difference), turbo condition, and countless others. 
I suppose that, just like me, the Volvo has also lost a little mojo as it has aged. 

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

with its tiny keyboard

On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:10 AM, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians!  I am in the process of learning my boat.  The engine is a Volvo TMD22, with autoprop h6 propeller.
I found some threads here on the forum related to this topic, but none conclusive about what is the ideal cruise rpm regime, and what is the maximum rpm?  I can't get more than 2100 rpm!
 Any suggestion?

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Alicante, Spain







<Amel Isolated Ground (12DC Negative) Engines and Generators.pdf>


Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?

Brian Mitchell
 

We have shipped many yachts around the World, superyachts and our own Amel. We have experience with top loading and float on/float off shipping.
No matter what, cover and protect everything you can, the exhaust soot does stain the boats, so too the rust fragments from the exhaust stacks. Rust stains will be all over the gel coat.
The ships are old, have done thousands of hours at sea, they are cargo ships and thus are not spotless and or clean running.
The special shrink wrap plastic we use on all the transported yachts does leave a residue and you will need to have your yacht detailed and or very well cleaned at the destination, but it saves on the damage to the gel coat. If your bimini is in good condition you should cover and protect it or remove it and cover the cockpit. Even remove your sails and pack them in the lazarette or inside the yacht, to be sure they are as safe as they can be.
Vacuuming down your possessions inside the yacht is also recommended. We always covered the carpets however, I have not personally experienced any interior damage, just a heap of exterior mess to clean up upon delivery to the final destination.
The shipping company are never forthcoming on telling you about the exhaust issues, unless you actually ask them. 
On the Super Servant the deck crew wash down all the boats each and everyday, but they are shipping superyachts, sportsfishers and sailing boats and still you do get a dirty yacht at the end of the voyage. 
Trust this helps, none of the above is second hand, as stated, we have a lot of experience with shipping yachts!!
Good luck.
Brian & Sue (Australia)


Sue Mitchell
S Y Lola
+61 481 719770



On Jul 14, 2020, at 14:13, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

This is second hand so take it for what it's worth. My wife and I encountered an Amel owner in the Carib 7-8 years ago who had shipped their boat and suffered tremendous damage from smokestack ash throughout the entire boat (inside and out). It had been unfortunately positioned downwind of the ship's exhaust for 3 weeks. The boat was permeated with soot....they claimed even inside the compass (which I find not believable) but they were knee deep in litigation. Sorry for painting this image for you.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Kauia