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Watermaker membrane damaged by fuel
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi all,
Just though I’d share this unfortunate experience. I had new membranes last year after 11 years. Just recently there was a boat anchored ahead about 200 – 250m which unknown top me at first had been dripping fuel into the water. This rendered my new membranes completely useless (TDS > 1000) and I now need to replace them again. I was subsequently told that if there is just the slightest hint of fuel in the water to not use the watermaker.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Hi Paul,
Whilst on City Island (the self-proclaimed "Cape Cod of the Bronx ! "), stop by the Harlem Yacht Club - "The Friendliest Club on City Island". I was the Commodore back before the turn of the century - mention my name and you'll get a free ice cold glass of water and some "sea stories". Guest moorings are available - tell them you want the deep section out by the channel. They've also got an excellent restaurant which I think has reopened. Cheers, Craig
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Re: A 55 # 9 : Chargeing and mastershunts
Paul Stascavage
Hello Stuart
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Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Alexandre, we all felt for you when you lost your boat. And then watched in disbelief at the behaviour of your insurers. Without doubt you maintained your boat at a level few of us acheive and generously shared your knowledge. I wish you well in whatever path you follow from here. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 15 July 2020 at 02:48 "Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io" <uster@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Stefan;
We have the 150 L/hr AC only version. On ours, we simply turn off the unit and then turn down the pressure valve. If we want to back flush, we turn down the pressure valve first and wait for the unit to backflush, and shut down automatically and then turn the switch off. Sorry, but I’m not familiar with the DUO, so can’t be of much help.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Stefan Schaufert via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:43 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
Thx a lot for your fast responses.
How is it possible to avoid the fresh water rinsing? It seems to be automatic (DUO D 100).
Does anybody knows the brand/part number of the solenoid? I can not figure it out without dismantle.
Best regards Stefan LADY CHARLYETTE A54 #119 currently Aruba
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak? Solenoid
Stefan Schaufert
Thank you Courtney.
That is easy ;-) Best regards Stefan LADY CHARLYETTE A54 #119 currently Aruba
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak? Solenoid
Just turn off before reducing the pressure this avoids the rinse
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak? Solenoid Thx a lot for your fast responses.
How is it possible to avoid the fresh water rinsing?
It seems to be automatic (DUO D 100).
Does anybody knows the brand/part number of the solenoid?
I can not figure it out without dismantle.
Best regards
Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE A54 #119 currently Aruba
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
Stefan Schaufert
Thx a lot for your fast responses.
How is it possible to avoid the fresh water rinsing?
It seems to be automatic (DUO D 100).
Does anybody knows the brand/part number of the solenoid?
I can not figure it out without dismantle.
Best regards
Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE A54 #119 currently Aruba
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak? Solenoid
Stefan Schaufert
Thx a lot for your fast responses.
How is it possible to avoid the fresh water rinsing?
It seems to be automatic (DUO D 100).
Does anybody knows the brand/part number of the solenoid?
I can not figure it out without dismantle.
Best regards
Stefan
LADY CHARLYETTE A54 #119 currently Aruba
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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
Porter McRoberts
Copy that. Thanks C.
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Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
no I don't all that you need to do is have the Stainless cut closer to the deck then finish the edges to avoid chafing cheers
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From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 1:16 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it? Courtney.
Do you have a photo of your modification to the cable routing that allows drainage?
Might be quite helpful
Thank you!!
Porter
A54-152
Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.net
On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:
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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
awesome glad that is all it was
Cheers!
-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2020 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it? It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.
Thanks Courtney, Scott.
Porter A54-152
Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.net
On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations
They just need to redirect HTTP requests to HTTPS, they will know how.
Regards, Robert Giroux
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:21 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations
Thanks for letting me know, not sure why…. Will ask my tech support. May be try using the secure link (https instead of http) https://www.supermaramu2000.com
Sincerely, Alexandre
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:04:39 AM CDT, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
Alexandre,
I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully.
Vr, Brian K. Riggs Future Amel Owner
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
Porter McRoberts
Courtney.
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Do you have a photo of your modification to the cable routing that allows drainage? Might be quite helpful Thank you!! Porter A54-152 Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:
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Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?
Dennis Johns
We shipped Libertad from Thailand to Turkey using Sevenstar and from Panama to Ensenada using United Yacht Transport. In both cases we were advised to remove all sails and canvas which we did. When the boat arrived they were indeed filthy from a combination of soot and misc soils but there was no damage because of the soils. Dennis Johns Libertad Maramu 121
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:03 PM Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Ladies and Gents.
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Re: Front furler Bamar MEJ upgrade to EJF? Is it worth it?
Porter McRoberts
It was. Just a switch. I always feel like I’ve been given a gift when the anticipated worst does not occur.
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Thanks Courtney, Scott. Porter A54-152 Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.net
On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
You’re an excellent example. Do you leave the boat for any extended period? If so, how do you store the watermaker?
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Jul 14, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Re: Possible damage from transport ships stacks. Has anyone experienced?
Hi Porter,
Here is Tip #6 of "How to Prepare Your Boat for Transport" from the Speitloff / DYT website: "Tip #6: Protect the outside of your yacht form (sic) soot, salt, etc. with shrink wrap. If your vessel is too large to cover completely, just stick to the most vulnerable areas such as teak and non-skid surfaces. Also cover all stainless steel and chrome fittings or apply an insulator wax to this exposed metal. If possible, remove and store the windshields." They then add the sentence: "If you’re transporting a sailing yacht: Remove sails or protect them with covers..." We shipped ours from Genoa to Palm Beach with just the sails off and canvas removed. After pulling up to the freighter for loading in Genoa, we stayed on our boat for the crane lift (exciting!), then got off onto the freighter's cargo deck. We stayed for a couple of hours to button up our boat and spoke at length with the Captain, taking a look around the ship as we had contemplated taking a cabin for the crossing, which in hindsight would have been fun. Yes, every outside surface of the ship is really dirty but the exhaust is as Bill Rouse describes and not belching fiery ash. Upon arrival in Palm Beach we did have a few globs of heavy grease from the cranes but the boat was pretty clean. I recall only a few of the boats being shipped had shrink-wrap - mostly the power yachts. That our boat was clean may have been partly due to being washed off by severe thunderstorms they had on reaching Florida. Good news / bad news: the boat was clean but we had $100,000 of lightning damage from the EMF of a nearby hit (not direct). The transport insurance covered it but fully depreciates all equipment because you are no longer a "yacht", with "new-for-old" coverage, you are "marine cargo" with a "no betterment" depreciation clause. Thus, for example, all electronics, autopilot, radar, etc. were depreciated to $0.00 because they were the original Amel installed 1992 equipment, the damage was in 2015 and electronics are on a 10 year depreciation schedule. We still came out well compensated as they do cover estimated repair labor and I do all my own work. (The estimates were from Palm Beach Yacht Repair contractor$.) Caveat Emptor - They do not tell you about the depreciation when you sign up! (It may be buried in the fine print.) We happened to transit with another sailboat (similar damage - some 13 boats were hit). That boat's owner was an insurance lawyer - she verified that was indeed the case, as, like us, she had assumed the transit insurance would be the same as her yacht policy and she was not versed in the nuances of marine cargo insurance. Btw, the carrier for Speitloff/DYT is Pantaenius, who also had our regular yacht insurance. Our claim was handled very well, notwithstanding the surprise depreciation clause. Good luck with your transit. Craig
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Re: Nikimat.com is now SuperMaramu2000.com with all the illustrations
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Brian, I just called my tech support which added a certificate to the site. Should be up in less than 24 hours, therefore it doesn’t make much sense that one site (nikimat.com) is safe and the new one is not…. Please let me know in 24 hours if it is better. If a future SM2K owner, I think you will enjoy the “Tour” pictures I added. Aside from very few addition from the previous owner, it is as original as you can get. Sincerely, Alexandre
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:04:39 AM CDT, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:
Alexandre, I'm sorry for your loss of Nikimat. Also, the new site, www.supermaramu2000.com comes up as "not safe", so my company has it blocked. There may be an issue with a certificate of some sort. Nikimat.com comes up beautifully. Vr, Brian K. Riggs Future Amel Owner On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
Mohammad Shirloo
When we were getting familiar with Kokomo, I had discussed when the back flush was necessary with Martin at Dessalator. He stated that it is unnecessary to back flush after making water, if you intend to make more water withing the next 7 days. He mentioned that it is a waste of 25 liters of water. When we are on board, about 5-6 months every year, we almost never back flush since we only fill the tank with dessalator water, and therefore never go beyond the 7 days.
Our original membranes are still functioning fine after 12 years and almost 600 hours of water maker run time. The water made is usually below 250 PPM.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:07 AM To: mail@...; main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator fresh water rinse - leak?
I have the same issue I have not taken care of it yet bypass is to make water but do not rinse then there is no issue discovered the problem after making nearly 700 liters of water then waking up to an empty tank. Cheers Courtney Trippin 54 #101 -----Original Message----- Dear Amelians,today I had a wierd situation with my duo D 100.After turning it off, it did the fresh water rinse like usual, but did not stop.I checked for a leak (in the entire boat) but there is no leak and no open tap.I closed the fresh water valve for the water maker, the rinsing stops.I opened the valve, then the fresh water pump starts again (with rinsing).During the process of making water there is no problem, the fresh water pump is not running.Thus now I have to close the valve every time after using the water maker.That is possible, but not like it should be.Btw: If I open the fresh water valve for the water maker again (at least) 1 hour later, the pressure is (mostly) stable, no pump is running.
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