Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
And, I should have said, once you eliminate the cooling system, the fuel system, and each of the sensors, I suggest that it's time to get an Onan tech. Good luck! Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html
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Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
Mark, I know that you probably know this, but "plenty of water coming out the exhaust" is not a measure of sufficient water, or of the colling system. The only measure of the cooling system is the temperature difference between the exhaust elbow and the engine block or oil temperature. The normal operating temperature of the block is around 80C and if the cooling system is working the exhaust elbow should be around 50C. To eliminate the cooling system as a problem, measure these temps. BTW, I cannot count how many times I have been told "plenty of water" when it was not enough water coming out. Once the above is eliminated and the fuel system is eliminated (is the fuel pump within 8 years of age and the filters new), it is likely a sensor issue. Some model Onans have Normally Open (NO) sensors and some Onans have Normally Closed (NC) sensors. Once you determine (see below) which you have it is simple to bypass one sensor at a time by either disconnection one wire from the sensor for NO sensors, or jumping or connecting the two wires for NC sensors. Don't do this without monitoring the exhaust temperature and ensuring it does not rise above 60C. Here is a common sensor issue (if you have the flow sensor installed). This sensor was partially clogged. Sometimes it worked and other times it shutdown the Onan. Also this sensor was found to be oriented where the debris would fall into the sensor. When it was reinstalled, it was oriented correctly (last photo): Sensor oriented incorrectly. Sensor pipe should be turned 180 degrees:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 8:22 AM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:
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Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
Mark Pitt
On my first sail trip of the season, my Onan MDKAV shuts down under load after 15 to 20 minutes. No blinking codes. Does not matter is the load is from the watermaker or AC. It does not shut down from a charger load, or any load under about 15 amps. I changed all the fuel filters but that did not help. Plenty of water coming out the exhaust. Overheating should generate a shutdown code in any case.
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Re: Run 2500w inverter always even on shore power?
Except of leaving another hole of $2000+ in your wallet :-)
Arno
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Re: Recommendation for Bonfiglioli gearbox rebuild in New Zealand
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hello Mike,
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Not sure if Total Marine can complete your request but they made new gears for my BT. Walk over and ask Cam if he can cut new gears... However, these Bonfiglioli are not expensive and, AFAIK, they are still available. Good luck, Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, Opua
On 12 Aug 2020, at 12:17, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommendation for Bonfiglioli gearbox rebuild in New Zealand
JOHN HAYES
Y es Mike I’ve used the bonfiglioli agent in Auckland found the excellent
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New gearboxes were not very expensive so brought new If you need to overhaul the worm drive in your headsail furler comeback to me as there is only one company I know of Bettany gears in paraparaumu about 40 km north of Wellington Best John Hayes Nga Waka Johnhayes862@...
On 12/08/2020, at 11:00 AM, Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy) <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
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Recommendation for Bonfiglioli gearbox rebuild in New Zealand
Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Hello everyone,
Can any owners recommend a good place to get the Bonfiglioli gearboxes rebuilt in New Zealand? Has anyone used the Bonfiglioli Transmission place in Auckland? I would like to have them stripped down and cleaned, zercs added, repainted, and rebuilt. Ideally it would be a shop that's familiar with them and has perhaps done the job successfully before. The brass worm gear on our main outhaul has been stripped by the stainless worm drive. The main furler works fine but is overdue for some service. Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM23 Opua, NZ
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Re: Run 2500w inverter always even on shore power?
Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Hello guys, All these problems are over when you use a Victron Multi 120 5000. Since we installed that device its 24h on and all appliences work. Its like shorepower on anchor. Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Martinique
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 15:27 Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote: Hi,
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Re: Run 2500w inverter always even on shore power?
Duane Siegfri
Because I use a CPAP and wanted to be able to run it off the house bank through the AC outlets, I installed an 1800 watt inverter and wired it to a switch in the compartment above the sink. The switch selects "OFF", "Mains/Gen", "Inverter". The switch is then wired to the breakers for "Microwave" and "Outlets". Those two breakers were isolated (by cutting the bus bar in the breaker panel) from the 30 amp power supply for the AC breakers. Of course the switch was also wired for supply voltage to the 30 amp breaker for the AC panel. Except for the inverter I had an electrician install everything. I also labeled those two breakers "Inverter" so all would know that shutting off the 30 amp breaker for the AC panel would not necessarily shut off power to those breakers. This also permits use of the microwave anytime when the switch is set to "Inverter". This is a good safety precaution for the microwave because one can forget that the boat is on US current.
Duane ex-SM owner
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Re: Super Maramu Hull #440 New Owners Introduction
Hello Rafael & Taty, is your SM in Rosas/Empuriabrava?
JB
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
In addition to below Email I am just reading that AUSTRALIA NORTHERN TERRETORIES have closed their border for INTERNAL traffic until 2022 that is 20twentyTWO. Sounds drastic to me but I had the same opinion in March when Air New Zealand canceled my return until August and then again in July vanceled all together. T Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message -------- From: "Teun BAAS via groups.io" <teun@...> Date: 8/10/20 08:59 (GMT-06:00) To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG I am looking for an AMEL (54??) owner or a person familiar with AMEL (54) in the COOMERA QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA area.
Reading that QANTAS will not take any international reservations prior to March 2021 I think this indicates that it will be unlikely that AUSTRALIA will allow foreigners back into the country before March 2021. I am not a pessimist but realizing that my expectation of a return date has repeatedly moved forward from February to March to June to August to around Christmas to now March 2021 I can even see it taking longer than March 2021.
AMELIT has been on the hard @ THE BOAT WORKS YARD in COOMERA since December and I would like somebody to supervise/inspect if the additional preparation for longer storage is correctly being done as well as from time to time check on her. I have some arrangement with an outfit on TBWY but I want to make sure things are truly being done.
AMELIT was inspected this weekend and found to be in perfect shape but that person happened to be visiting BRISBANE but lives too far from COOMERA to do on a regular basis.
Any suggestions/advice is much appreciated.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
I am stuck riding my motorcycle all over USA AMELIT is in storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA August 10, 2020 08:58:29
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
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Re: Run 2500w inverter always even on shore power?
Billy Newport
I didn't have the inverter on, RTFM. The manual specifies the priority system. The gen overrides the inverter, but the inverter overrides shore power. So, if my 2500w inverter is on then it's independent of shore power. You're point in capacity is interesting. My old boat had dual victron 3kw inverters. I could run all 3 AC units on one of those inverters, 2 x 9k BTU and a 16K BTU, all cruisair units. The 16k had a smartstart on it. The main problem with that was actually voltage drop under high load, 12V didn't help. The victron had 4.5kw peaks.
I'm just happy the washing machine isn't broken, I was already looking at how to change the drain pump so I can defer that. I'm instrumenting my AC bus with Shelly AC monitors this week so I'll have data on the washing machine draw soon. Thanks
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Re: new Rigg on SM2000
I’ve also been told that the best wire comes from Korea.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:
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Re: new Rigg on SM2000
Hello,
I thought almost all SS câbles came from KOS of Korea and has good reputation with riggers. What is the brand of the German cables ? Fair winds Denis Ex Meltem 32 Envoyé de mon iPhone
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Re: new Rigg on SM2000
Eloi Bamberg
Thank you everybody for your answers. So I will go with those German cables.
Eloi
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Colin,
Thanks for your Email. Hope all is well with you guys.
I remember us talking last year about the new sails; you gave me suggestions & recommendations on AUSTRALIAN Marina’s etc. based on which I selected THE BOAT WORKS YARD. Excellent place by the way.
Appreciate your offer but as you expected (and have probably read) Sue & Brian MITCHELL are daily in AMELIT’s vicinity on the same yard and I am in dialogue to see what we can work out.
I have some other questions and will send you an Email directly (not via the Forum) but that will be later this week as I am leaving early tomorrow morning and will have spotty or no internet for 2 or 3 days.
Best Regards Teun August 10, 2020 22:21:12
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of islandpearl2_sm2k332 via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:00 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Teun
Let's see if you find anyone closer first, but if not then I could potentially help. The only issue with me is that I am around 100km away, up in Scarborough, and I don't really have any other reasons to go down that way normally. At present here in QLD, we are virtually COVID19 free, so I can travel down there without restrictions at present, as and when my work commitments allow me time to do so.
Presently I am looking after other international owners boats here in Scarborough Marina, and also assisting one international owner to sell his boat too, which is relatively very easy to do since it is right on my normal morning walk route. If you (or any other future Amel owners sailing into Australia later this year) had it here in Scarborough or Newport Marina's in the north of Brisbane, then that would be far easier for me to assist, however, as we discussed back in October, having it out the water at Boatworks should also certainly give you good peace of mind that it does not need new antifoul paint, wearing bearing replacements and also lines to be checked weekly.
As you probably know I owned an Amel Super Maramu 2000 for 9 years, and just last year completed a circumnavigation in that but sold SV Island Pearl II recently on our return, so am completely familiar with all the specific maintenance requirements, and am also very familiar with the 54 too.
See if you get any offers from anyone closer first, but if not I would be happy to help as and when my time permits.
Best regards Colin Streeter
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:59 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Sue, Brian and Teun Thanks for making contact and helping Teun out. We Help international cruisers out up here in Scarborough knowing exactly how stressing it can be with one's beautiful yacht on the other side of the world, with no certainty about its condition and when they may return. Knowing that someone familiar with one's boat is on hand, and if it is in the water, getting weekly pictures sent home of the mooring lines, antifoul, battery volt levels, etc makes a big difference under these circumstances. At least in Teun's case, it is out the water and totally safe. I think he made a good decision to store it there. It is wonderful to hear that you guys are in the Amel community, and located right there at Boatworks which is by far our favorite haulout facility in Australia. We sold our Amel but stay connected inside the Amel family as we intend to purchase again in the Med in around 2023-4 after working for a few years. Best regards Colin Streeter 0491 178 898
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:26 AM Brian Mitchell <sue@...> wrote:
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Joel,
We spoke last year in reference to the AMEL French ownership/registration (orange book) certification. BTW still not solved ☹.
Since I am absolutely bored out of my mind not being able to get back to the boat I first toured BAJA CALIFORNIA for 6 weeks March/April until COVID closed the border. Now I am with one of my sons on a national & state park camping/hotel motorcycle trip from AZ, NM, TX, CO, WY, MT, ID and might decide to turn right towards the USA East Coast to attend the ANNAPOLIS boat show. Maybe I come down the East Coast and make it to FL – would surely like to meet you.
Thanks for the feedback on Sue & Brian; much appreciated.
Very frustrating not having a clue when we are allowed back into AUSTRALIA; last month I almost decided to put AMELIT on the same vessel Porter put IBIS (MV FLORETGRACHT) to COSTA RICA, USA or ENGLAND but at the very last moment decided that I still wanted to continue sailing the SP and just have to wait/suffer it out.
Best Regards Teun August 10, 2020 20:14:00
From: Joel Potter <jfpottercys@...>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 19:33 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Cc: Teun BAAS <teun@...> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Teun and let me assure you, I worked with Sue and Brian for nearly a decade before their time was ripe to buy their Amel. During this interlude I got to know them quite well. They manage mega yachts including major refits of millions plus. They both are extremely capable. Sue is the most organized person I have ever met and Brian can fix anything as his knowledge is vast and his mates who know even more are endless. These two are dear friends as well as a first class resource for Amel knowledge and experience. You can trust them completely. I am sure of this. If you are buzzing around the USA on motor cycle, consider visiting us in central Florida.
JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Hi Sue,
Thanks for your Email. We Emailed last year when I was on my way from VANUATU to the SOLOMONS.
Just read your other Email and will reply to that Email.
Best Regards Teun August 10, 2020 19:56:13
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Mitchell via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 18:26 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Cc: Brian Mitchell <brian@...> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG Importance: High
Hello Teun & Colin,
Brian and I are in the Boat Works yard presently, we go by your boat each and every day. We tried to reach out to you a few months ago to offer our assistance to check on your yacht, but the e-mail we used at that time bounced back. I think Brian used your personal email address??
We have an Amel SM2000 #340 and we operate large yachts as well.
Let us know what you need and we will be happy to assist you. We are well known in the yard and very familiar with the Amel’s having owned ours for over 5 years.
Our phone contacts are:- +61 431 469500 (Brian) and +61 481 719770 (Sue). Call or e-mail and we’ll make a plan for you.
Kind regards, Sue
Captain Brian & Sue Mitchell S Y Lola +61 481 719770 +61 431 469500
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of islandpearl2_sm2k332
Hi Teun
Let's see if you find anyone closer first, but if not then I could potentially help. The only issue with me is that I am around 100km away, up in Scarborough, and I don't really have any other reasons to go down that way normally. At present here in QLD, we are virtually COVID19 free, so I can travel down there without restrictions at present, as and when my work commitments allow me time to do so.
Presently I am looking after other international owners boats here in Scarborough Marina, and also assisting one international owner to sell his boat too, which is relatively very easy to do since it is right on my normal morning walk route. If you (or any other future Amel owners sailing into Australia later this year) had it here in Scarborough or Newport Marina's in the north of Brisbane, then that would be far easier for me to assist, however, as we discussed back in October, having it out the water at Boatworks should also certainly give you good peace of mind that it does not need new antifoul paint, wearing bearing replacements and also lines to be checked weekly.
As you probably know I owned an Amel Super Maramu 2000 for 9 years, and just last year completed a circumnavigation in that but sold SV Island Pearl II recently on our return, so am completely familiar with all the specific maintenance requirements, and am also very familiar with the 54 too.
See if you get any offers from anyone closer first, but if not I would be happy to help as and when my time permits.
Best regards Colin Streeter
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:59 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: tb/AMEL owner or AMEL familiar professional near COOMERA QLND AUSTRALIA/AYOG
Brian Mitchell
That is a very nice email Joel. Amazing recommendation of which we hold very dear to our hearts.
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Thank you most sincerely.
I did send you an email (to your usual address) a few months ago to check in on you both.
Please pass on our best wishes to Vella too.
Miss you guys xxx
Big hugs,
Brian & Sue Sue Mitchell
S Y Lola
+61 481 719770
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:32, amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:
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