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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
Mark, from my book:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:05 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Re: 175A alternator belts
The belts are A section, Yanmar number is 25132-004600, generic A46.
I have found that Dayco cogged belts last longer than standard V-belts. The dual belts on the LN 175A alternator and the single belt for the waterpump and 12 v alterntaor are the same size on the standard Amel set up. |
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Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
Thomas Kleman
Impeccable timing on your circumnav- we are stuck in Hawaii now waiting......had a new shutdown just last night. The AC water pump capacitor caused a genset shutdown at what should have been about 3 KW.....and gave me the wrong code as well. Please post when you discover the solution. I'm sure this will happen to us.
Tom and Kirstin SM 2K 422 L'ORIENT Hanalei Bay, Kauia
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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
Yes, it is.
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/Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998.
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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
Bill,
Is this a piece of foam – about 2-3” - attached with a tie to the cable? It’s hard to tell.
Thanks.
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff www.creampuff.us
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main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Mark, I posted a photo (not a good one) earlier in this thread.
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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
If you can't keep the foam, one can attache cable ties to the cable and keep +/-5 cm of it, a few cable ties every 30-40 cm will take away most of the noice as it prevents the cable to dangle against the mast tube. Paul on sykerpa SM 259 Portugal
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
Thanks to all for your advice. Where would you set float on your alternator, Elja? I have a separate controller, so I can set float where ever I want it. Kent
On Aug 13, 2020 1:14 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:
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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
Mark, I posted a photo (not a good one) earlier in this thread.
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
Then you have to go to Victron , they have a seperate BMS
one for all batteries , and then you have all in one hand Charger/ inverter Solar regulation and altinator . One other question What happens with the Li Batteries and the BMS when you take a flshlighit ? Elja SM Balu 222 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: Tips appreciated: Major frustration trying to pull cable through Mizzen.
If someone could please post a picture of the foam, this would be very helpful to me.
I will soon be replacing the Antenna (main mast), cables and VHF. I plan to thread the new cable from the top of the mast attaching it to the old cable while it is removed. If I can, I would like to keep the foam. I think I could add this as the new cable is being inserted but it is unclear how the foam is attached.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
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"In the long run it is even more advisable to abandon the traditional car batterie style and take one 24 volt 400, 500 or 600Ah lithium batterie instead building it up from 12 or 24 volt sections. " At first I had the same opinion about this. However I did think this over a bit and now I'm not so sure anymore. The point being that with a set of "autonomous" 24 volt batteries you do build in a level of redundancy. If one of the batteries/BMS-es fails you still have the others left. With one BMS. etc. you create a critical path. I'm not saying that should be avoided at all costs but it does add food for thought into to the discussion. For me I think this technology is still not fully mature in the marine environment. One way to get around the 70-80% problem is sizing you battery system so you don't need the top 20-30% and can never charge them up to 100%. To do this you need a BMS that can (actively) balance cells at any state of charge. I only found one company that sells those at the moment. It also make LiPo even more expensive. Cheers, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
Mark Pitt
Hi Tom and Kirstin,
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I also have had at least a dozen shutdowns in the 17 years that I have owned Sabbatical III and in every case there was a shutdown code, including shutdowns due to a faulty sensor. So this is a new one for me. Having a spare central board is a good idea, although now that our circumnavigation is done, not as crucial. I heard that they are quite expensive. My wife and I are only summer livesboards now. Mark Pitt SV Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Hi, In the long run it is even more advisable to abandon the traditional car batterie style and take one 24 volt 400, 500 or 600Ah lithium batterie instead building it up from 12 or 24 volt sections. I would prefer a central based BMS controller supervising the hole batterie at once, not packages without com port where one cell does not know what the other does. And you should look at the guaranteed capacity. Means this battleborn has only 90% capacity, according to their discharge graph. In my eyes thats a hint for low quality? A good quality batterie, with good chemistry inside, will guarantee 100 to 108% capacity. There is no "drop in batterie" that is misleading because in the end you need to setup all the electronics, chargers, BMS aso. to lithium. That is the real change. Not in what plastic case the cells are packed. Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Martinique
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
Yes, and you should cut the altinator so that batteries are not always loaded in full during a long drive
Elja SM Balu 222 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes
Thomas Kleman
Hey Mark- your post caught my eye because we are hull #422....,Bill's approach (eliminate sensors one by one) is what we do on L'ORIENT. I'm troubled by the lack of a diagnostic code, though. We've probably had 15-20 genset shutdowns in the 10 years we've owned the boat; never was there no code. Since it's really easy, at some point I'd swap out the central board (if you have one). I think this is a vital spare part to have on a SM because of how much you depend on 220 v (unless you've done a major lithium conversion).
Tom and Kirstin SM 2K 422 Hanalei Bay, Kauia
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Re: 175A alternator belts
We have the 175A LN alternator on a Yanmar 4JH3TE with double pulleys on the LN Alternator, and single on the 12V alternator.
All three belts are the same... Dayco cogged belts, no idlers, A section belts Sorry not on the boat can't give you the specs, but they're probably on file on the site somewhere I'll check tomorrow Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: 175A alternator belts
Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Hello, I got and tested the Optibelt pullys for 90mm discs. And to be tightened over their back. Did not change anything. Still dust and wear. I will switch to serpentine belts. Can' t be worse. Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Martinique
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Re: 175A alternator belts
I have adjusted the alignment and it is spot on.
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My theory is that I have been using B section belts (17mm) and the alt pulley has 84mm diameter. (This was what was on the boat when I bought her in 2017.) and according to belt specs The minimum diameter pulley should be 112mm. Now Optibelt do a 17mm B section belt that can cope with 90mm pulley. I have ordered a pair but that is still larger than my 83mm. If my theory is correct then I will have to machine the pulleys to accept 13mm belts such that they do not bottom out as 13mm belts can cope with smaller pulley diameters. Alternatively get a 112mm pulley for the alternator but then pulley ratio will be close to 2:1 not 3:1 Or switch to a serpentine belt which involve new pulleys for both alternator and the engine. So my first port of call is to find out what pulleys other Amel owners are using. Nick Amelia AML54-019 Simi Greece
On 13 Aug 2020, at 15:09, Bill Hall <billhall95688@...> wrote:
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Re: 175A alternator belts
Hi Nick Have you checked the pully alignment? Miss alignment will cause excessive belt wear Hope this helps Bill Hall Looking to own an Amel
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Re: Switch to LiFePO4
Battle Born was not very explicit about it in the Zoom meeting last week but in the long run it is very much advisable to use the 24 volt units instead of the 12 volt units. Using 24 volt units makes sure you will balance cells across 24 volts instead of 2 x 12 volt leaving a potential unbalance between the two 12 volt banks. For your chargers you will need to investigate if you can set them to the exact same charging parameters. That may be difficult.
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