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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Arlo,

I used "D-section 342 with adhesive, 100 feet ($1.129 per foot), part 342HATS-100, from Clean Seal, Inc.
P.O. Box 2919 – 20900 West Ireland Road
South Bend, IN 46680-2919 USA
FAX: (574) 299-8044     Phone: (574) 299-1888
(800) 366-3682
HTTP://www.cleanseal.com    e-mail:cleanseal@...

It is self-adhesive and works well. There are other seals to choose from.

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 9/17/2020 10:16 AM, Arlo wrote:
Has anyone found a proper gasket for the Amel deck and cockpit lockers? I see lots of initial investigation so I am hoping that someone can post what they finally settled on. I see 1 post about ordering from Amel. I have a 1985 Mango so its unlikely that Amel will have these in stock. So I am looking for an after market solution. 

I know of 1 other Mango owner also looking for a good replacement gasket source and model number.

Thanks
Arlo
1985 Amel Mango # 46


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Aras Grinius
 

McMaster Carr carries gasket material that matches and works/  I've used it opn my 1998 Sharki

Aras
Sharki #163 1988

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:16 AM Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:
Has anyone found a proper gasket for the Amel deck and cockpit lockers? I see lots of initial investigation so I am hoping that someone can post what they finally settled on. I see 1 post about ordering from Amel. I have a 1985 Mango so its unlikely that Amel will have these in stock. So I am looking for an after market solution. 

I know of 1 other Mango owner also looking for a good replacement gasket source and model number.

Thanks
Arlo
1985 Amel Mango # 46



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Aras Grinius


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Arlo
 

Has anyone found a proper gasket for the Amel deck and cockpit lockers? I see lots of initial investigation so I am hoping that someone can post what they finally settled on. I see 1 post about ordering from Amel. I have a 1985 Mango so its unlikely that Amel will have these in stock. So I am looking for an after market solution. 

I know of 1 other Mango owner also looking for a good replacement gasket source and model number.

Thanks
Arlo
1985 Amel Mango # 46


Re: Mango fuel filter question

Arlo
 
Edited

Hello Craig. good advice, and I have made sure that about 99 percent of what is on my Amel is the same setup as the original where possible.. ;-)

I am used to having a visual indicator of fuel condition and filter condition at a moments glance. I had the RACOR 500MA and pressure gauge  on my last vessel which I could always visually check before entering a port or leaving port. I recently had an incident where I was delivering a 60 foot  2018 Beneteau and the owner is very meticulous with his maintenance. We were 4 miles from entering the  harbor when the boat powered back on its own and eventually stalled. It ended up being a clogged fuel filter. We changed the filter and went along our way, but if that had happened 4 miles later, we would have been adrift in a busy seaport until we could raise sails if there was room... So if it can happen on a new boat with a owner that just changed his fuel filter a few months prior it reminded me that I really do not know what my fuel in the tanks look like or the filter condition until after there is a problem..

So that was the genesis of my thought process, But I do agree that Henry got it right and simpler is better as eventually everything will need maintenance and is subject to failure...


Re: Cheek blocks on Mango or older Amel

Arlo
 

Thanks Dennis!


Re: Bow thruster seal for SM

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Hello Ian and Judy,

I rebuilt my bow thruster twice.  The first time was in Trinidad, and the second time was in New Zealand 18 months ago.  I made a video about the bow thruster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xWzNfnWLw

The previous owner of Aquarius had left a spare shaft from Amel on the the boat, so in New Zealand I replaced the shaft and the seal.  Just replacing the seal with a smaller diameter inner measurement will probably not give you the proper fit.  I would have the shaft machined down to the point it's smooth and get the proper sized seal for the final measurement after the shaft is completely smooth.  I replaced mine, but one of these days I will have the old shaft machined and purchase some properly sized seals so that I have a spare shaft.  After seeing what happened to JP's boat, completely rebuilding his bow thruster in New Zealand as well.  I decided to purchase the entire gear, shaft and bearing set from Maud.  I now have this as a spare on Aquarius.  Thus, I can rebuild the bottom end of the bow thruster in an afternoon with the parts on Aquarius.  No machine shop required.  

Paul also did a rebuild video of the bow thruster bottom end.  https://youtu.be/6zRPHvzMvtg
And he had the kit from Maud which he shows in the video.  And he did his at anchor.

After I replaced the shaft in New Zealand, I have had no leakage.  I am now on the hard in Thailand, and everything still looks great after 18 months and going from New Zealand to Thailand.

All the best,

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262
On the hard in Krabi Boat Lagoon 


Re: Cheek blocks on Mango or older Amel

Denis Foster
 

Hello,

Looks like an old Lewmar footblock. There is a new model but the holes are different. You can find the old model on ebay uk.

Fair winds

Denis 
ex Meltem #32


Cheek blocks on Mango or older Amel

Arlo
 

Hello all. I need to replace the cheek block on my Mango. Does anyone know who the original manufacturwr or modelnof these blocks are ? Also any recommendations? Schaefer, Harken, garhauler, ronstan all make cheekblocks but In wanted to see what others have been successful with. I am in the USA.
 Thanks
1985 Mango # 46


Re: Anchor sizing

Rob Hughes
 

Did you need to change the bow roller to the ultra style or did your stock super maramu one work with the new anchor?


Re: Anchor sizing

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Bryce,

 

Yeah I am aware of the 60 days refund but my intention is to sail AUSTRALIAN waters for the season (or maybe 2 seasons) 😊 I hear the WHITSUNDAYS are magnificent.

 

I could postpone buying the chain until I am ready to leave.

 

Best Regards Teun

 

A54 2009 #128

September 16, 2020 12:26:40

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bryce Procter via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 16:47
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor sizing

 

Hi Tuen,

 

If you purchase the chain within 60 days of departure you should also be able to claim back the 10% GST.

 

Cheers

 

Bryce


Re: Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

Mark Erdos
 

I just recently did this job.

 

Jabsco claims in their literature the holes on the new part align with the holes on the older style base. They lied. The old style has 4 holes the new one has three holes. Also, be careful. They changed the base’s design and not the part number.

 

In my case, I did not find the backing plate extended to the area needed for the new bolt placements. This was very evident when drilling the new holes. I filled the old holes with epoxy (I color matched the brown).

 

I used stainless steel threaded coil inserts secured with resin for the new screw positions. Then screwed the bolts into the inserts.

 

 

 

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With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Nilsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 2:03 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

 

Hi. 
I did this job last summer. 
On our boat there is a metal backing plate in the basemould. I just sealed the old holes and drilled new ones. These I threaded and just bolted the new toilet down.

Best regards 
Robert 
S/Y Silfrania 
SM #53 


Re: Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

Robert Nilsen
 

Hi. 
I did this job last summer. 
On our boat there is a metal backing plate in the basemould. I just sealed the old holes and drilled new ones. These I threaded and just bolted the new toilet down.

Best regards 
Robert 
S/Y Silfrania 
SM #53 


Re: Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

Aras Grinius
 

I had to change mine several years ago.  I took a piece of Starboard and mounted the WC to that, then tapped and mounted that to the original base.   It actually worked better as it raised the height a tad, making it more comfortable to sit on.  Just my 2 cents.

Aras
Sharki #163 1988



On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:32 AM michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Hi  Ian. There is access via a small cover. You will need a ring spanner with tape to catch the nut from underneath the floor. 
This is on a sm251 
Regards Michael 


On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 8:00 pm, ianjenkins1946

 
Hi All,

 Some time back I wrote that the base of one of our WCs  ( Jabsco 37255 )was starting to crack. Unfortunately, the replacement base ( Part no.37004-1000 ) has its anchoring holes in different places that the original. This is a problem when you can't access the underneath of the fibreglass platform to which the base is bolted.
 The same guy, Neil, as mentioned in my previous email, has a solution which involves drilling a hole wide enough to get the bolt through and then to fix the bolt in place and fill the hole.  He will do the work this winter so I will report back on how it goes.

 For those in this area, my experience of Neil ( who  recently replaced the seals on the gearbox on the main and also stripped down and rebuilt the gearbox on the main outhaul ) is good. He works with FYS yacht services, owned by Christian Grunert, an Austrian, in Porto Helli. They are full of work. See www.franks-yachtstation.com 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada



--
Aras Grinius


Re: Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

michael winand
 

Hi  Ian. There is access via a small cover. You will need a ring spanner with tape to catch the nut from underneath the floor. 
This is on a sm251 
Regards Michael 


On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 8:00 pm, ianjenkins1946
<ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

 
Hi All,

 Some time back I wrote that the base of one of our WCs  ( Jabsco 37255 )was starting to crack. Unfortunately, the replacement base ( Part no.37004-1000 ) has its anchoring holes in different places that the original. This is a problem when you can't access the underneath of the fibreglass platform to which the base is bolted.
 The same guy, Neil, as mentioned in my previous email, has a solution which involves drilling a hole wide enough to get the bolt through and then to fix the bolt in place and fill the hole.  He will do the work this winter so I will report back on how it goes.

 For those in this area, my experience of Neil ( who  recently replaced the seals on the gearbox on the main and also stripped down and rebuilt the gearbox on the main outhaul ) is good. He works with FYS yacht services, owned by Christian Grunert, an Austrian, in Porto Helli. They are full of work. See www.franks-yachtstation.com 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada


Fuel Line

Mark Barter
 

Could someone please tell me the external diameter of the copper fuel line. It will obviously be the same as the ID of the fuel hoses.

I just can't remember it.

Many thanks
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 


 
Hi All,

 Some time back I wrote that the base of one of our WCs  ( Jabsco 37255 )was starting to crack. Unfortunately, the replacement base ( Part no.37004-1000 ) has its anchoring holes in different places that the original. This is a problem when you can't access the underneath of the fibreglass platform to which the base is bolted.
 The same guy, Neil, as mentioned in my previous email, has a solution which involves drilling a hole wide enough to get the bolt through and then to fix the bolt in place and fill the hole.  He will do the work this winter so I will report back on how it goes.

 For those in this area, my experience of Neil ( who  recently replaced the seals on the gearbox on the main and also stripped down and rebuilt the gearbox on the main outhaul ) is good. He works with FYS yacht services, owned by Christian Grunert, an Austrian, in Porto Helli. They are full of work. See www.franks-yachtstation.com 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada


Bow thruster seal for SM

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 


 
Hi all,

 Our bow thruster was gently losing oil. Though we rarely use it, as we like to anchor everywhere, it is 20 years old and I suspect that there is a shallow groove where the seal sits on the shaft. I have now switched from a 30mm inside diameter to a 29mm so this may do the trick.
 Neil, a mechanic in this   part of the world ( Kilada, Greece ) has pointed out that if the 29mm still leaks I should try a particular SKF seal which  ( in Europe) is only available from SKF in Scotland  and which has twin seals, the idea being that each of the two seals will sit just to the side of the groove. I will try that if the leak continues before fitting the new shaft which we have on board.

On a separate note, Neil built his own steel 42 ft boat 20 years ago. He tried to sell pre-Covid. During lockdown he had about 3 hits a day to his very detailed website. On 17th July the UK allowed flights to Greece. The hits on his website immediately went to 600 ( that's not a typo ! ) per day and he sold for the asking price, sight unseen to a guy who is now thrilled with it.

It seems that Covid might be doing wonders for boat sales. 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada ( waiting to launch, but they are predicting gusts of 50+ for Friday night so....)


Re: SEAFLO Marine Air Conditioning Seawater Circulation AC Pump 500GPH 220V eBay

Alan Leslie
 

Our Calpeda died and we replaced it with the March AC-5C-MD, after assessing the flow requirements.
good thing is that now we don't have the Amel bonding connection connected to the AC ground anymore, AND no more screwdriver poking to get the pump to run (always thought that was a bit out there)
The pump works fine and I agree with Mark, the bolts and the casing on the motor are corroding, but I think a regular cleanup and Corrosion X is the way to deal with it.
We don;t use the A/C that much anyway and rarely with the 3 units all at the same time.
We replaced our aft cabin Climma A/C (it had leaks and electrical faults and wasn't considered worth trying to repair) with a Mermaid reverse cycle unit which works really well and has a remote control that allows temperature setting in both heating and cooling modes, like a home A/C.
Just wish I could get to Elyse to appreciate it !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 .... stuck in Opua, NZ .....me, stuck in Australia !


Changing the base of the WC on an older SM

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi All,

 Some time back I wrote that the base of one of our WCs  ( Jabsco 37255 )was starting to crack. Unfortunately, the replacement base ( Part no.37004-1000 ) has its anchoring holes in different places that the original. This is a problem when you can't access the underneath of the fibreglass platform to which the base is bolted.
 The same guy, Neil, as mentioned in my previous email, has a solution which involves drilling a hole wide enough to get the bolt through and then to fix the bolt in place and fill the hole.  He will do the work this winter so I will report back on how it goes.

 For those in this area, my experience of Neil ( who  recently replaced the seals on the gearbox on the main and also stripped down and rebuilt the gearbox on the main outhaul ) is good. He works with FYS yacht services, owned by Christian Grunert, an Austrian, in Porto Helli. They are full of work. See www.franks-yachtstation.com 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada


Bow thruster seal for SM

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi all,

 Our bow thruster was gently losing oil. Though we rarely use it, as we like to anchor everywhere, it is 20 years old and I suspect that there is a shallow groove where the seal sits on the shaft. I have now switched from a 30mm inside diameter to a 29mm so this may do the trick.
 Neil, a mechanic in this   part of the world ( Kilada, Greece ) has pointed out that if the 29mm still leaks I should try a particular SKF seal which  ( in Europe) is only available from SKF in Scotland  and which has twin seals, the idea being that each of the two seals will sit just to the side of the groove. I will try that if the leak continues before fitting the new shaft which we have on board.

On a separate note, Neil built his own steel 42 ft boat 20 years ago. He tried to sell pre-Covid. During lockdown he had about 3 hits a day to his very detailed website. On 17th July the UK allowed flights to Greece. The hits on his website immediately went to 600 ( that's not a typo ! ) per day and he sold for the asking price, sight unseen to a guy who is now thrilled with it.

It seems that Covid might be doing wonders for boat sales. 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada ( waiting to launch, but they are predicting gusts of 50+ for Friday night so....)

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