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Re: Deck painting

Jose Alegria
 

Eric is correct, 
Apply a thin layer, wait a little and  and remove any excess with a lint-free cloth.
For your boat half liter is enough ( ± 15 £ ).

The results are amazing.

José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37



Re: Deck painting

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Polytrol label states that the product should be applied with a lint free cloth. Wait 10 minutes and wipe off the excess. If you leave it on without wiping off the excess the deck will be sticky for months. I did not read the label and left it on in Caribbean sun. Sticky wicket to say the least.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting

 

Andre

 

 

One coat - 1 liter it is enough, use a normal brush and wait at least 48 hours 

 

There are only one color- transparent. 

 

The original color must be restored by this kind of " varnish".

 

Make a picture before and after.

 

regards

 

José Alegria

A55#003MERIT

josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37

 

 

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:13, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:

Jose,

Thank you.

Is there a particular color I need? How many coats should be applied? Any advice on how to apply? How long to wait for drying.

Andre



On Sep 30, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:



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Andre

Try first of all - POLYTROL

Don´t solve the cracks but improve the appearance. 

 

<Unknown.jpeg>

 

regards

 

 

José Alegria

A55#003MERIT

josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37

 

 

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:52, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:

To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88






Re: SM2K Lewmar ST 58 winch ELS control box p/n 48000222

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Here's a source for $370.95, (regular $616.70). I know absolutely nothing about them or the part, which seems to have a few "Types". 
Caveat emptor and all that but send me 10% of the savings ;-)
--
Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
Ooops, forgot to include the link- here 'tis:https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/category/Lewmar-Winches-Electric-Components-Control-Boxes.html


DST800 Thru-Hull Transducer / analogue as replacement for sonic sensor

Slavko Despotovic
 

I am investigating the possibility for using paddle speed transducer. There is Analog version of DST800 available. The specification are saying it is only for Raymarine ST60 but as I remember on my previous boat all this was analog to the instrument and then it was converted in to seatalk. Have any one used this transducer to connect to B@G Hydra 2000? 
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: SM2K Lewmar ST 58 winch ELS control box p/n 48000222

amelforme
 

 Contact Roger Underwood at Nance and Underwood Rigging FortLauderdale. 
954-764-6001
$616.70
Also called the "soft start" device, I sometimes see these in the same failure mode you describe on brokerage Amel yachts I am selling. They never get better...
Roger is very familiar with Amel boats and his team can handle everything from simple stuff like this to complete re-rigs and have done more than 50 RE-rigs for clients of mine.

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Sep 30, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Bob Ross via groups.io <tuwhiti@...> wrote:

Hello,
Hope this finds everyone doing well.

Having trouble finding a supplier with this part. This is for the portside large electric ST58 winch.
Does anyone have one for sale or know of a supplier with this unit on hand?

Winch symptoms are much like described in previous threads. Works great manually and works barely under power and then is quick to become sluggish and basically stop working. 
The ELS unit demonstrates 24V in and 10V out. New problem for us so advice is welcome.

Thank you
Bob
Nomad #362 Charleston, SC USA


Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Amelians,

thx a lot for your numerous helpful responses.

For the Amels with the Echopilot 2D units AND the B&G Sonic Speed Sensors and/or Depth Sounders (Standard on the AMEL 54):
  1. Are there problems or something needs to be considered because of the working frequency (200 kHz) of the Echopilot unit - used at the same time as the B&G devices (interferences)?
  2. Where is your Echopilot transducer situated on the bottom? Echopilot recommends to install it „alongside the keel and perhaps 60cm or 2 feet out“. 
I do not find any informations for this in the B&G & Amel manuals.
Thus I am looking forward for your answers.

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, Aruba


Re: Deck painting

Kaplan,Andre
 

Philippe
Merci
Andre



On Sep 30, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Philippe Belloir <pbelloir@...> wrote:


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For the desk epoxy 2 composants SHERWIN- WILLIAM Company, colour SABLE ref SW6083. http://www.sherwin-williams.com
Or to renew the color polytrol at owatrol.com
For the "black" lines I use a striper from marshalltown.com or http://www.pearlpaint.com/ ido t remember the ref for the color, black is too hard, too much contrast. 


Fair winds
Philippe




-------- Message original --------
De : "Kaplan,Andre" <kaplan@...>
Date : mer. 30 sept. 2020 à 15:52
À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting
To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







Re : [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting

Philippe BELLOIR
 

For the desk epoxy 2 composants SHERWIN- WILLIAM Company, colour SABLE ref SW6083. http://www.sherwin-williams.com
Or to renew the color polytrol at owatrol.com
For the "black" lines I use a striper from marshalltown.com or http://www.pearlpaint.com/ ido t remember the ref for the color, black is too hard, too much contrast. 


Fair winds
Philippe




-------- Message original --------
De : "Kaplan,Andre" <kaplan@...>
Date : mer. 30 sept. 2020 à 15:52
À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting

To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







A55#9

Stuart Hemingway
 

 

 

S/V  A55#9

Seeking wiring diagrams for the double shunt and the 8 x AGM 160 V, 12 A batteries.

Stuart Hemingway


Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hello all,

I used to run a large catamaran that doubled as a survey vessel, we were looking for ancient ship wrecks. Mostly in shallow water. We worked in Asia and Mozambique among other places.

The first job on a new site would be to chart it very accurately. So we did what is called a Bathymetric survey, that involved a differential GPS and depth integrated. So one would motor up and down, do the lines and create our spot on accurate chart. We then used to do an in depth survey of the magnetic field with twin magnetometers, also integrated with he DGPS. When the water became too shallow we would transfer the kit to one of our tenders.

This activity involved driving the boat in the sort of places that no sensible yachtsman would ever venture! 

One bit of kit we did not have was a forward looking sonar. However we had a really top notch fish finder. This was the most reliable and useful bit of inexpensive kit. It would give a great picture of the bottom. It would differentiate between mud and sand and stones and rock and coral and weed.  In coral reef areas there would generally be a bit of warning as the bottom would change, even fish life would tell us what to expect. I do not remember what brand we had, maybe Feruno? but the monitor was up at the helm station and quite large say 10 inches by about 6 inches. A great bit of kit.

I would like this on Amelia, but running the cables is not so easy. 

Nick

Amelia 
AML 54 (ashore in Leros) AML54-019

On 30 Sep 2020, at 16:54, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:

Ken and All,

   I searched for one of the Echo Pilot 2D units (part #81034 with the bronze transducer housing) from US stores and found no stock.  Also a statement on one website that said that the manufacturer has discontinued this item.  I did not follow up on this but did see that a newer 3D Echo Pilot using 2 transducers is available at about 10X the price..  SVB24 had 3 of the 2D units still in stock,  now they have 2 since I just ordered one.   They are currently on sale for 1,092.39 Euros.  

   I don't expect this unit to be useful at all times and believe that it is hard to beat a good set of eyes on the bow or up the mast.  Still if this new tool prevents even one grounding it seems like it is a no brainer to add to the boat.  I have had to change anchorages at night before where chart information was poor or non existent.  I am hoping that under such conditions that this instrument can make such a move less stressful, we will see.  Thank you Ken for your input on the Echo Pilot 2D.

Best to all,
James
SV Sueno 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2020 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

Hello James,

I like the fact that the Echo Pilot is completely separate from the rest of the navigation equipment.  I would like a radar overlay on the chart plotter, but not the FLS.  You can spend more to have an integrated system, but I'm not sure it's useful for the FLS.  When I am in shallow water, I have the Echo Pilot going, and a few maps running.  Got my airplane pilot scan going, 1sec per screen, and then out of the cockpit... and repeat.  The FLS is just one of the inputs.  

Is this the best?  That, I could not say, because this is all I know.  Echo Pilot is easy to install, easy to use, and easy to set up.  Once set up, if the FLS needs more than an on off button that's too much.  For this reason, It's the best for me.

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262


Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

James Alton
 

Ken and All,

   I searched for one of the Echo Pilot 2D units (part #81034 with the bronze transducer housing) from US stores and found no stock.  Also a statement on one website that said that the manufacturer has discontinued this item.  I did not follow up on this but did see that a newer 3D Echo Pilot using 2 transducers is available at about 10X the price..  SVB24 had 3 of the 2D units still in stock,  now they have 2 since I just ordered one.   They are currently on sale for 1,092.39 Euros.  

   I don't expect this unit to be useful at all times and believe that it is hard to beat a good set of eyes on the bow or up the mast.  Still if this new tool prevents even one grounding it seems like it is a no brainer to add to the boat.  I have had to change anchorages at night before where chart information was poor or non existent.  I am hoping that under such conditions that this instrument can make such a move less stressful, we will see.  Thank you Ken for your input on the Echo Pilot 2D.

Best to all,
James
SV Sueno 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2020 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

Hello James,

I like the fact that the Echo Pilot is completely separate from the rest of the navigation equipment.  I would like a radar overlay on the chart plotter, but not the FLS.  You can spend more to have an integrated system, but I'm not sure it's useful for the FLS.  When I am in shallow water, I have the Echo Pilot going, and a few maps running.  Got my airplane pilot scan going, 1sec per screen, and then out of the cockpit... and repeat.  The FLS is just one of the inputs.  

Is this the best?  That, I could not say, because this is all I know.  Echo Pilot is easy to install, easy to use, and easy to set up.  Once set up, if the FLS needs more than an on off button that's too much.  For this reason, It's the best for me.

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262


Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Gerhard,

 Delighted to read your post and learn that Greece has such skills. Not always the way !

 Ian


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode@...>
Sent: 30 September 2020 08:16
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network
 
Ian
I have had the same issue: EchoPilot 20 years old and display dead. Gracefully I was in Greece and able to send only the display unit to a repair company in Athen, Greece.
Within one week I got it back repaired and now I'm happy to use it again. Cost was about 100 Euro.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Deck painting

Kaplan,Andre
 

Jose
Thanks again
Andre



On Sep 30, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:


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Andre


One coat - 1 liter it is enough, use a normal brush and wait at least 48 hours 

There are only one color- transparent. 

The original color must be restored by this kind of " varnish".

Make a picture before and after.

regards

José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:13, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
Jose,
Thank you.
Is there a particular color I need? How many coats should be applied? Any advice on how to apply? How long to wait for drying.
Andre


On Sep 30, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:


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Andre
Try first of all - POLYTROL
Don´t solve the cracks but improve the appearance. 

<Unknown.jpeg>

regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@gmail.com
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:52, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







Re: Deck painting

Jose Alegria
 

Andre


One coat - 1 liter it is enough, use a normal brush and wait at least 48 hours 

There are only one color- transparent. 

The original color must be restored by this kind of " varnish".

Make a picture before and after.

regards

José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:13, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
Jose,
Thank you.
Is there a particular color I need? How many coats should be applied? Any advice on how to apply? How long to wait for drying.
Andre


On Sep 30, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:


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Andre
Try first of all - POLYTROL
Don´t solve the cracks but improve the appearance. 

<Unknown.jpeg>

regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@gmail.com
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:52, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







SM2K Lewmar ST 58 winch ELS control box p/n 48000222

Bob Ross
 

Hello,
Hope this finds everyone doing well.

Having trouble finding a supplier with this part. This is for the portside large electric ST58 winch.
Does anyone have one for sale or know of a supplier with this unit on hand?

Winch symptoms are much like described in previous threads. Works great manually and works barely under power and then is quick to become sluggish and basically stop working. 
The ELS unit demonstrates 24V in and 10V out. New problem for us so advice is welcome.

Thank you
Bob
Nomad #362 Charleston, SC USA


Re: Deck painting

Arnold Mente
 

Dear Andre,

in respect to the other examples you get, I would follow the procedure in the attached description.

Best
Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203

Am 30.09.2020 um 15:52 schrieb Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@uchc.edu>:

To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88






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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: Deck painting

Kaplan,Andre
 

Jose,
Thank you.
Is there a particular color I need? How many coats should be applied? Any advice on how to apply? How long to wait for drying.
Andre


On Sep 30, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:


*** Attention: This is an external email. Use caution responding, opening attachments or clicking on links. ***
Andre
Try first of all - POLYTROL
Don´t solve the cracks but improve the appearance. 

<Unknown.jpeg>

regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@gmail.com
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:52, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







Re: Deck painting

Jose Alegria
 

Andre
Try first of all - POLYTROL
Don´t solve the cracks but improve the appearance. 

Unknown.jpeg
regards


José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@gmail.com
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:52, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88







Deck painting

Kaplan,Andre
 

To All
I have a 1988 Mango lying in Westbrook, CT. I’m considering repainting my deck, photo attached.
There are no discernible leaks associated with the cracks. What are my options for repainting the deck with goal of minimizing further cracks and improving appearance?
Thanks for any advice

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88


Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

My pennyworth . We have had an Echopilot since new , 20 years ago . We very rarely use it . 
However , in Chile we met a local guy with a wooden yacht who surveyed the canales in the south on behalf of fish farm companies . Much of his time was spent in uncharted waters . His experience was to set the forward range at no more than 50 m . He claimed it was the most essential tool he had . 
We did use it in Chile when entering uncharted caletas at very slow speeds and on a handful of occasions it served us well . 
I suspect that you need to practice a lot with it to get the best use of it. 
Elsewhere its greater comfort is in having a backup depth sounder in case the B&G packed up . 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 , Kithnos , Greece


On 29 Sep 2020, at 19:29, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:


Ken,

     I was originally thinking of something that would interface with my B&G display but I think that you make a really good point about having a stand alone system in this case.  It helps a lot to hear from someone like yourself that has a lot of recent experience with a product, so thank you for sharing.  Easy and simple have a lot of value in my book as well so I will take a good hard look at the Echo Pilot option.  

Fair winds to you both,

James and Joann Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220



-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2020 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network

Hello James,

I like the fact that the Echo Pilot is completely separate from the rest of the navigation equipment.  I would like a radar overlay on the chart plotter, but not the FLS.  You can spend more to have an integrated system, but I'm not sure it's useful for the FLS.  When I am in shallow water, I have the Echo Pilot going, and a few maps running.  Got my airplane pilot scan going, 1sec per screen, and then out of the cockpit... and repeat.  The FLS is just one of the inputs.  

Is this the best?  That, I could not say, because this is all I know.  Echo Pilot is easy to install, easy to use, and easy to set up.  Once set up, if the FLS needs more than an on off button that's too much.  For this reason, It's the best for me.

Ken
Aquarius SM2K#262

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