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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders
Pat, I believe someone further up the thread mentioned a max SOG of 2.5 kts. Maybe that is part of the issue for you? Regards, - Justin Hopeful future SM/SM2k owner
-- Justin Paulsen IT Professional "The world is open, are you?"
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Re: DST800 Thru-Hull Transducer / analogue as replacement for sonic sensor
Dominique Sery
I use a gps -nmea to loch pulse between the GPS and the Hydra 2000 and it works fine. Dominique
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Re: DST800 Thru-Hull Transducer / analogue as replacement for sonic sensor
Thank you. Speed and temperature are working?
Slavko SM 2000 #279
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Re: DST800 Thru-Hull Transducer / analogue as replacement for sonic sensor
Dominique Sery
Hello,
I have changed the sonic speed for a DST 800 analogic. It doesn’t work because the sounder is 200 kHz on the DST Airmar and 170 kHz on the B&G. Dominique Irko 1 A54-#16
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders
Patrick McAneny
As I said in a previous post ,I have a new B&G FLS and have not found it useful , the bottom is depicted in a brown color and moving forward I have brown spikes appear in front of the boat as well as elevated bottom depictions that disappear as quickly as they appear. Frustrated I just stopped even ever turning it on ,forgot to even use it once in six months while in the Caribbean. But before this thread goes away ,I have one question. Is it important to keep your SOG very slow to get good results from a FLS ? I think I have tried to use it going less than a 4 or 5 kts. , but maybe that is too fast. It would be great to have in the Bahamas some day ,if it worked.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 3:33 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders Hi All, I say all because this thread has certainly created interest. We have the Interphase FLS. Like radar and it seems many other FLS units it needs experience and interpretation. I find it useful and last year in Fiji it saved us from a serious situation. The biggest problem is surface clutter caused by the turbulence of choppy water but with experience it is possible to get useful interpretation. It needs to have all the parameters set right. In talking to other owners with the same unit it is clear that many have not persevered and have given up.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 01 October 2020 at 08:58 Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Ian,
Thanks, your review makes sense, and... Very helpful to me.. I also inherited a boat with FLS (Echo Pilot), and loved it! Knowing that your Echo Pilot made it 20 years makes me like the product even more. Though, I must say, the screen should never fail! If you are sailing in the same region most of the time, dropping the hook in the same anchorages each year... There is probably not enough value in purchasing an FLS. But, for those owners that are planing to go exotic places, where good charts may not available, and usually anchoring in new places... They should consider the value of an FLS. Thanks for the detail! Ken Powers Aquarius SM2K#262
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi All, I say all because this thread has certainly created interest. We have the Interphase FLS. Like radar and it seems many other FLS units it needs experience and interpretation. I find it useful and last year in Fiji it saved us from a serious situation. The biggest problem is surface clutter caused by the turbulence of choppy water but with experience it is possible to get useful interpretation. It needs to have all the parameters set right. In talking to other owners with the same unit it is clear that many have not persevered and have given up. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 October 2020 at 08:58 Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
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Re: Deck painting
Kaplan,Andre
Arnold
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Very informative Thank you Andre
On Sep 30, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Deck painting
Jose Alegria
Eric is correct, Apply a thin layer, wait a little and and remove any excess with a lint-free cloth. For your boat half liter is enough ( ± 15 £ ). The results are amazing. José Alegria A55#003MERIT
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Re: Deck painting
eric freedman
Hi, Polytrol label states that the product should be applied with a lint free cloth. Wait 10 minutes and wipe off the excess. If you leave it on without wiping off the excess the deck will be sticky for months. I did not read the label and left it on in Caribbean sun. Sticky wicket to say the least. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Alegria
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:13 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting
Andre
One coat - 1 liter it is enough, use a normal brush and wait at least 48 hours
There are only one color- transparent.
The original color must be restored by this kind of " varnish".
Make a picture before and after.
regards
José Alegria A55#003MERIT josealegr@...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:13, Kaplan,Andre <kaplan@...> wrote:
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Re: SM2K Lewmar ST 58 winch ELS control box p/n 48000222
Here's a source for $370.95, (regular $616.70). I know absolutely nothing about them or the part, which seems to have a few "Types".
Caveat emptor and all that but send me 10% of the savings ;-) -- Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL Ooops, forgot to include the link- here 'tis:https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/category/Lewmar-Winches-Electric-Components-Control-Boxes.html
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DST800 Thru-Hull Transducer / analogue as replacement for sonic sensor
I am investigating the possibility for using paddle speed transducer. There is Analog version of DST800 available. The specification are saying it is only for Raymarine ST60 but as I remember on my previous boat all this was analog to the instrument and then it was converted in to seatalk. Have any one used this transducer to connect to B@G Hydra 2000?
-- Slavko SM 2000 #279
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Re: SM2K Lewmar ST 58 winch ELS control box p/n 48000222
amelforme
Contact Roger Underwood at Nance and Underwood Rigging FortLauderdale.
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954-764-6001 $616.70 Also called the "soft start" device, I sometimes see these in the same failure mode you describe on brokerage Amel yachts I am selling. They never get better... Roger is very familiar with Amel boats and his team can handle everything from simple stuff like this to complete re-rigs and have done more than 50 RE-rigs for clients of mine. JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On Sep 30, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Bob Ross via groups.io <tuwhiti@...> wrote:
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Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders
Stefan Schaufert
Dear Amelians,
thx a lot for your numerous helpful responses. For the Amels with the Echopilot 2D units AND the B&G Sonic Speed Sensors and/or Depth Sounders (Standard on the AMEL 54):
Thus I am looking forward for your answers. Best regards Stefan A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, Aruba
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Re: Deck painting
Kaplan,Andre
Philippe
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Merci
Andre
On Sep 30, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Philippe Belloir <pbelloir@...> wrote:
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Re : [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting
For the desk epoxy 2 composants SHERWIN- WILLIAM Company, colour SABLE ref SW6083. http://www.sherwin-williams.com Or to renew the color polytrol at owatrol.com For the "black" lines I use a striper from marshalltown.com or http://www.pearlpaint.com/ ido t remember the ref for the color, black is too hard, too much contrast. Fair winds Philippe -------- Message original -------- De : "Kaplan,Andre" <kaplan@...> Date : mer. 30 sept. 2020 à 15:52 À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Deck painting
To All
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A55#9
Stuart Hemingway
S/V A55#9 Seeking wiring diagrams for the double shunt and the 8 x AGM 160 V, 12 A batteries. Stuart Hemingway
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network
Hello all,
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I used to run a large catamaran that doubled as a survey vessel, we were looking for ancient ship wrecks. Mostly in shallow water. We worked in Asia and Mozambique among other places. The first job on a new site would be to chart it very accurately. So we did what is called a Bathymetric survey, that involved a differential GPS and depth integrated. So one would motor up and down, do the lines and create our spot on accurate chart. We then used to do an in depth survey of the magnetic field with twin magnetometers, also integrated with he DGPS. When the water became too shallow we would transfer the kit to one of our tenders. This activity involved driving the boat in the sort of places that no sensible yachtsman would ever venture! One bit of kit we did not have was a forward looking sonar. However we had a really top notch fish finder. This was the most reliable and useful bit of inexpensive kit. It would give a great picture of the bottom. It would differentiate between mud and sand and stones and rock and coral and weed. In coral reef areas there would generally be a bit of warning as the bottom would change, even fish life would tell us what to expect. I do not remember what brand we had, maybe Feruno? but the monitor was up at the helm station and quite large say 10 inches by about 6 inches. A great bit of kit. I would like this on Amelia, but running the cables is not so easy. Nick Amelia AML 54 (ashore in Leros) AML54-019
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network
James Alton
Ken and All,
I searched for one of the Echo Pilot 2D units (part #81034 with the bronze transducer housing) from US stores and found no stock. Also a statement on one website that said that the manufacturer has discontinued this item. I did not follow up on this but did see that a newer 3D Echo Pilot using 2 transducers is available at about 10X the price.. SVB24 had 3 of the 2D units still in stock, now they have 2 since I just ordered one. They are currently on sale for 1,092.39 Euros.
I don't expect this unit to be useful at all times and believe that it is hard to beat a good set of eyes on the bow or up the mast. Still if this new tool prevents even one grounding it seems like it is a no brainer to add to the boat. I have had to change anchorages at night before where chart information was poor or non existent. I am hoping that under such conditions that this instrument can make such a move less stressful, we will see. Thank you Ken for your input on the Echo Pilot 2D.
Best to all,
James
SV Sueno
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2020 11:44 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network Hello James,
I like the fact that the Echo Pilot is completely separate from the rest of the navigation equipment. I would like a radar overlay on the chart plotter, but not the FLS. You can spend more to have an integrated system, but I'm not sure it's useful for the FLS. When I am in shallow water, I have the Echo Pilot going, and a few maps running. Got my airplane pilot scan going, 1sec per screen, and then out of the cockpit... and repeat. The FLS is just one of the inputs. Is this the best? That, I could not say, because this is all I know. Echo Pilot is easy to install, easy to use, and easy to set up. Once set up, if the FLS needs more than an on off button that's too much. For this reason, It's the best for me. Ken Aquarius SM2K#262
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Gerhard,
Delighted to read your post and learn that Greece has such skills. Not always the way !
Ian
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode@...>
Sent: 30 September 2020 08:16 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Furuno NavNet Plotter Network Ian
I have had the same issue: EchoPilot 20 years old and display dead. Gracefully I was in Greece and able to send only the display unit to a repair company in Athen, Greece. Within one week I got it back repaired and now I'm happy to use it again. Cost was about 100 Euro. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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