Re: Tender Amel 54
Hi, here my personal ranking in quality:
Company Prod. in 1. R.I.B. Line Pischel (D) Germany 2. Caribe Venezuela 3. AB Colombia 4. ZAR Tender (I) China 5. Highfield (AU) China 6. Nautend (GR) China 7. Zodiac (F) China 8. 3D-Tender (F) China 9. Plastimo (F) China All manufactures offering Hypalon, the first 3 only Hypalon! Best Arnold SV Zephyr SM 203 Am 06.10.2020 um 10:09 schrieb Ian Park <parkianj@...>: My PVC dinghy suffered and expired in the Caribbean and we were recommended Highfield which we bought in hypalon. Pleased with it although no longer in the Caribbean. If headed there, most cruisers fit ‘chaps’ which IMO are worth the expense ( also an engine ‘chap’). Hypalon seems to be the best choice for tropical climate. -- Arnold SY Zephyr SM203
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Re: Tender Amel 54
Ian Park
My PVC dinghy suffered and expired in the Caribbean and we were recommended Highfield which we bought in hypalon. Pleased with it although no longer in the Caribbean. If headed there, most cruisers fit ‘chaps’ which IMO are worth the expense ( also an engine ‘chap’). Hypalon seems to be the best choice for tropical climate.
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Re: Tender Amel 54
Randall Walker
Hello M&A, My neighbors tender is a brand I hadn't heard of before called 3D https://www.3dtender.com/ALUMINIUM-SEMI-RIGID-TENDERS-147-64-0-0.html My purchase was the Highfield 310 and didn't want to wait for the Hypalon as they were unsure when they could get one in Gibraltar. I believe that the extra investment in Hypalon pays for itself. The 3D tender when side by side is identical to the Highfield. My 310 is at the limit of width for the 54. And we are restricted to keeping it on the aft. I wish I had the OCTender that was on the back of my boat. I regret not making it the one and only demand when purchasing my boat. They are very nice, hindsight 20/20. Safe travels, and wishes the world opens soon. Randall A54#56
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote: We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:
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Re: Tender Amel 54
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Mohammed & Aty,
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We chose a deep v AB 9.5UL and it has done yeoman service for us. However, if we had to do it now, we’d consider OCD TENDERS from NZ. Very good design including beach wheels! Very popular Good luck Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007, NZ
On 6/10/2020, at 7:48 PM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Tender Amel 54
Mohammad Shirloo
We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:
Mohammad & Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
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Inverter grounding and other details
Jose Venegas
I am installing BB lithium batteries and a new 5000 VA 24-240 v 50 hz Victron inverter. I decided to avoid the temptation of installing an Inverter/charger because of the 50 to 60 Hz issues when using it in the Americas.
I plan is to pass the 220 V 50 Hz cable from the inverter to the engine compartment and add a third outlet to the box that has the 220 V and 110 to 220V transformed outlets. This will allow me to power all 220 V outlets of the boat, plus air conditioning, microwave oven, washing machines, and water maker (obviously not all at the same time). without having to rewire the 220 circuits. Also obviously, I will not be turning on the battery charger while the inverter is ON. With this approach, I expect that the system will switch automatically to the generator, as it does when the boat is running on shore power. Yesterday I tested that the water maker was able to run under shore power without circuit breakers going off which suggests me it will be able to run with the inverter. How much current will it draw and how long will the batteries be able to run it will have to be determined. I found on this group a long discussion about the independence of AC and DC grounds in the SM Amel and long discussions about installing inverter/chargers but I STILL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS: 1) Is there something wrong with this approach? have I missed something? For example, do the sudden shut down of the inverter AC output by the relay switch at the start of the generator damage the relay switch, the inverter, or the lithium batteries. Of course, to be safe I could turn off the inverter and or disconnect its AC output from the box before turning on the generator but it would be good to know is something is fundamentally wrong with this approach.. 2) What to do with the AC "ground" 220 V connection from the inverter? The inverter has the metal case connected to the ground of the 220 cable output and allows this ground to be connected to the neutral. I have disconnected this and am not planning to connect the case to the bonding since that would connect the AC ground to the DC bonding that I have read is a NO-NO. Alternatively, I could have the case connected to the DC negative or completely disconnected from everything. 3) Any ideas where to pass the 220V cable from the battery compartment to the engine room. There are several DC battery cables running through what looks like epoxy resin to prevent water from flowing between the two compartments. Have anyone drilled a new hole along and above these cables? If so, was it started from the engine compartment to avoid damaging of tubes and cables in the engine compartment? 4) I am planning to connect the DC cables from the inverter to the large DC switches from the batteries. Are these switches large enough to handle the current if one does not use heavy current DC motors such as the bow thruster while running the inverter at full power? The 5000 VA inverter requires a 400 amp fuse. Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Jose Venegas Ipanema SM2K 278
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Re: Anchor roller
I second Karen's recco. Our pin broke/fractured just inside. A machinist ground the outside welds of the he pin and it was all removed in less than 10 minutes. He then cut two SS washers from 2 inch round stock, approx 2mm thick and milled it for the exact size of the replacement pin. He welded these onto the sides to give lots of reinforcement and the fabricated a new removable pin. I believe that the welding made the original SS pin brittle causing it to break over time. Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, sm #387
... and the shaft cannot rotate with the roller and wear against the side holes.
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Re: Anchor roller
... and the shaft cannot rotate with the roller and wear against the side holes.
-- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Anchor roller
With the shaft welded the sides cannot bend inward. Bill
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote: Bill,
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Re: Anchor roller
Jose Venegas
Bill,
I use the secondary anchor roller to pass the snubber or the mooring line. The two vertical rollers serve to reduce chafe when the line is not aligned with the boat. However, in strong wind the flat cylinder shape of the secondary anchor roller allows sliding between the snubber and the roller creating chafe and strong sounds each time the snubber slides from one side to the other. For this reason I would like to replace the secondary anchor roller to one that includes a wedge in the center and prevents the sliding of the snubber. What is the reason for welding the shaft? Jose Ipanema SM 2K 278
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Re: Anchor roller
Karen Smith
If you need to replace the roller, it is far easier to grind off the welds on the outside of the plates. It is welded only on the outer surface of the metal plate. (Been there, done that!)
Then you can replace the pin with a bolt and nyloc nut of suitable size, or have a new pin welded in place if you believe that is superior. Bill Kinney Harmonie, SM160 Annapolis, MD
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Re: Fibreglass cowling enclosure around C Drive
Barry, Not only will the rubber bushing on the bottom allow some minor wiggle, but there are also "O" rings and a neoprene sleeve at the top around the "trumpet", allowing some wiggle there, plus the upper "C" drive-to-engine frame "engine" mounts. Point being the whole assembly is engineered to have vibration dampening and will move some when forcibly "wiggled" - it is not a rigid structure as your surveyor may have presumed.
-- Craig, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL PS. I have pulled mine off for a bent shaft and it was great to be able to thoroughly get all the crud out from behind it and slather bottom paint in there - not sure I'd put it on a regular PM list, thought.
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Re: Engine Volvo TMD22 sensors
Younwould need new sensors. Your current ones are only on/off, not analog.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:50 AM, Slavko D. <slavko@...> wrote:
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For Sale: Amel Euros 41, 1976 - Lefkada, Greece €19999
Andrew Eaves <andyeaves@...>
Hello all,
Our Amel Euro's is for sale, p/x. Please see info here; https://www.car.gr/classifieds/boats/view/32046202/ Kind regards
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Engine Volvo TMD22 sensors
On my Amel I have a standard instrument panel. I would like to add instruments for oil pressure and temperature, Now I have only alarms on instrument panel. Are the sensor on the engine same or I would need to order new one?
Than you -- Slavko SM 2000 #279
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Re: Fibreglass cowling enclosure around C Drive
Barry, if you like, have the surveyor call me. The rubber bushing that Eric describes is held in place by a bolt that is tapped into the iron ballast. The process of changing the rubber bushing is fairly simple. If you can move the C-Drive side to side 5mm, or more, the bushing needs replacing. I have the instructions in my Amel Book. I also have drawings, etc. I hope this helps you.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 8:22 PM seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote: Thanks Eric, I don't think it is of any concern, the surveyor picked it up and this was his first Amel so he had no understanding of the construction.
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Re: Forward looking Sonar - Amel 54 - Echopilot FLS 2D frequency vs B&G Sonic Speed Sensors or Depth Sounders
When we were planning our Red Sea Passage, we used the actual tracks of 2 other sailboats, one a SM, and google map images. It was easy to overlay everything using OpenCpn. It was easy to see the seabed contour as it matched up to the other boat's courses and anchorages and well as the depth indicated on the chart. I think the method of using such data when venturing into unknown and loosely charted areas is priceless. Of course, this is time consuming and tedious work to cover an area as large as the Red Sea, but all of that effort filled days at anchor that were well in advance of the planned trip. We used this information to plan our course and potential anchorages. Bill
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 3:53 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Anchor roller
It was welded for a reason.
Hi Bill, I should think that sawing will certainly work, especially since the shaft is welded so it won't spin on you. SawzAll with a metal blade may be easier than a sabre saw, but either should do. Seems, though, that you'll still have the issue of drilling out the weldment.
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Re: Fibreglass cowling enclosure around C Drive
Jose Venegas
Barry,
The only time you will need to do something about it is when you start feeling vibration on the prop while motoring or motor sailing in waves. I recently had to replace the rubber sleeve since the bolt was all the way in. Not a big deal but it required to take the boat out of the water and a lot of torque to unscrew the bolt. Jose Ipanema SM 278
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Re: AMEL orange boot stripe
Jose Venegas
Ken,
Actually the picture was taken in Glaucester April 2019, more than 7 years after it was painted! What was new in the pic was the bottom paint. The remarkable thing is that the paint is still shining after 8 years with minimal amount of maintenance. The weakness of the paint is when you scratch it, because it can not be buffed like the gelcoat. Up to a month ago, I had been lucky and had had NO scratches. Unfortunately that changed when we entered sailing to Curaçao with very little wind and with a overheating engine (actually I erroneously thought it was). As we approached the dock, one of the fenders came up and it caused a 3 feet scratch that I will have to repaired when I get to Cartagena. Well 9 years without scratches was not too bad considering that the first 8 years we were getting in and out of a marina in Boston every weekend, 6 months per year. Jose Ipanema SM2K 278
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